Coffee General- Autism Edition

[Anonymous No.9609677]

I just tried sifting my grounds before doing pour over and 15% of the weight was superfine dust. I tossed that and brewed what did not fall through and it's one of the best cups i've ever had.

[Anonymous No.9609697]

>>9609677
What a comfy photo

[Anonymous No.9609702]

>>9609677
I have no idea what good coffee tastes like.

[Anonymous No.9609712]

>>9609702
in the best case scenario it tastes very much like the smell. the problem is that there are so many variables that without extreme precision, it would be impossible to reach the full potential of flavor.

[Anonymous No.9609726]

What's the least-worse coffee beans I can buy from a supermarket?
I need to save a bit money, so I can't justify spending more on a roaster's beans.

[Anonymous No.9609736]

>>9609726
just don't drink coffee then

[Anonymous No.9609751]

>>9609736

[Anonymous No.9609765]

>>9609751
I'm not even being sarcastic. If you can't afford things that you don't need to live then you shouldn't be buying them. I stopped drinking coffee throughout all of college because I couldn't afford it. Now I can. Someday you will too.

[Anonymous No.9609772]

>>9609765
I can afford it, I just wanted to save a little money to buy something else. I didn't think supermarket coffee would be that bad.

[Anonymous No.9609780]

>>9609772
it's real bad

[Anonymous No.9609782]

>>9609772
Tasters choice is good

[Anonymous No.9609785]

>>9609677
get a non-shit grinder. the time you save will pay for itself

[Anonymous No.9609789]

>>9609782
>instant

[Anonymous No.9609796]

>>9609785
yeah. i know. in the works. the grinder i have now isn't terrible it's just that i've been using the burrs for many years. looking into the virtuoso

[Anonymous No.9610459]

LOL

[Anonymous No.9610616]

i just drink folgers and get another can when its on sale. inbetween i get whatever is the cheapest. ive had high end coffee and can't taste the difference unless it's truly those Meme Beans that taste more like red wine than coffee

coffee is delicious and its great fun to be That Guy who asks for a latte and a shot of irish cream and spiced rum each on the side in a bar before you start getting plastered on cheap beer like everyone else, but coffee snobbery about brands and grinding it fresh etc. is a shitty meme

when i was still living at home, i got my dad a grinder and a bag of fresh beans and even that, it tasted a bit more rich but it wasn't fundamentally different from the freeze dried stuff we normally drank

>>9609726
none of them are bad and if youre a beggar you cant be a chooser anyway

unless you're getting shit ground, all freeze dried coffee in a can is basically the same.

>>9609765
as someone who needs to have a drink in hand constantly, even if a non-alcoholic one, coffee is probably the cheapest thing you can drink. it's daunting at 10 bucks a can, but a can will last you like two months. compare that to a carton of juice that you can smash in a night of gaming ezpz

[Anonymous No.9610630]

>>9610616
You are such a stupid asshole I don't even know where to begin. Don't give advice when you clearly have no idea what the fuck you're talking

[Anonymous No.9610637]

I gave up on making good coffee awhile ago. I now use instant coffee.

[Anonymous No.9610718]

>>9610616
Why do people who have no interest in culinary spend time on a food board?

[Anonymous No.9610759]

>>9609677
Get a proper grinder

[Anonymous No.9610764]

>>9609796
You can get a used commercial grinder on ebay for the price of a new virtuoso. Also go and talk to cafes or restaurants that are closing down, I know many people who buy their coffee gear like that or from auctions of bankrupt businesses. We're talking 1/10 of what you'd pay for it new.

[Anonymous No.9610770]

>>9610616
What baffles me is how people who are totally clueless can sound so authoritative on subjects they actually know nothing about.

[Anonymous No.9610786]

>>9610630
>>9610718
>>9610770
samefag harder shithead. coffee is good but there's very little difference between a 10$ can of freeze-dried folgers and a 45$ bag of beans from your local hipster market

[Anonymous No.9610800]

>>9609726
Not worth it. Buy coffee beans online. Many roasters operate purely internet-based businesses to save on costs and that means you can get things very near the price you would at the supermarket. Think $5 for a half pound bag and the quality will be completely incomparable.

Coffee is actually one of the few things you can do well and cheap if you're smart about it. A hand-grinder, moka-pot, v60 and packet of v60 filters will cost you $40 in total (a one time expense)

If you drink a cup of pour-over per day for every single day of the month you'll need about $15 a month on high-quality beans, which works out at 50 cents a cup when a cup of good coffee costs more than a dollar or two depending on where you live (and I mean comparably good coffee not McDonalds coffee and only hipster third-wave coffee shops will be able to compare to your coffee). Pour-over also requires very little technique.

The most important thing for you to do is save up money (we're talking between $50-$100 depending on how lucky you get on ebay) to buy a commercial quality grinder. They're super heavy-duty, fool-proof and you will never need an upgrade in terms of grind quality.

Look for Mazzer, Fiorenzato, Macap, Eureka, NS, Iberital

It should look something like pic-related. Ideally without a doser, but you won't find that cheaply.

[Anonymous No.9610804]

>>9610786
>there's very little difference between a 10$ can of freeze-dried folgers and a 45$ bag of beans

(>>9610770 here) I think you and I once had a row on here two years ago when you said the exact same thing and everyone told you you are a retard. You won't trigger me this time/

[Anonymous No.9610846]

my favorite coffee is the mcdonald's coffee

it's just so tasty. i get a Large with 6 creams

it's perfectly rounded, smooth, and never bitter!!

[Anonymous No.9611044]

>>9610800
Why would I ask for beans if I didn't have the equipment to grind and brew said beans?

[Anonymous No.9611101]

[Anonymous No.9611201]

>>9611044
So you own a commercial-grade grinder and are opting to buy super-market beans instead?

Anyway, my post was aimed more at the OP who finds dust in his grounds. That simply wouldn't happen with a good grinder.

[Anonymous No.9612270]

What does /ck/ think of aeropresses? I'm late to party in terms of using them, but having bought one a month ago, I'm not particularly impressed.

My greatest complaint is that, unless you inversion brew, there seems to be an initial drip through of underextracted (or perhaps over? the water that saturated the grinds) coffee that is particularly astringent. When you brew inverted it's closer to a french press, albeit with better filtration, and probably a bit more control.

Am I missing something? If anyone has some general brew guidelines I have some wash Ethiopian coffee, and some Salvadorian coffee, in the house.

[Anonymous No.9613185]

>>9610786
no clue why you're claiming it's one person when every coffee thread has the same bait argument with a million replies

[Anonymous No.9613195]

>>9610786
why are you still pushing this argument. you believe there's no difference, then get out of the thread. if you can't tell the difference, you've never actually had fresh coffee. unless you got it roast to order from a third wave roaster, it's shit. it's stale and has been sitting in a storage room for half a year. coffee is basically trash after a month from being roasted. within 2 weeks of being roasted is the ideal period. even the nicer widely distributed brands like counter culture and etc are stale shit if you buy them from a grocery store like whole foods.

[Anonymous No.9613203]

>>9609726
Buy green beans in bulk and an air roaster on ebay or amazon. Practice for a while and roast your own beans! Ever since I started doing this I went from spending 30$ a month on nice beans to like 6$ a month, without a noticeable drop in quality

[Anonymous No.9613204]

>>9612270
I only use mine inverted. I put in 17 grams of coffee and then fill it up to cover the grounds and stir to pre infuse. then i fill it to the top. Wait 1 minute then screw on filter. flip it over onto a mug and slowly plunge. If the aeropress does one thing right, it is producing a perfectly adequate cup of coffee in the least time possible. perfect for when you have no time in the morning before leaving. i only use mine when i'm on a time constraint or feeling lazy

[Anonymous No.9613220]

>>9610786
>Freeze dried folgers from a can tastes the same as sourced coffee
What brand of bleach did your parents put in your baby formula to make you lose all your taste buds anon?

[Anonymous No.9613227]

I'm looking at ordering a Gina Coffee Brewer. Right now my setup is a V60 with Acaia scale but I like the idea of having a brewer where I can do immersion tea on as well.

[Anonymous No.9613232]

>>9609789
You'd be surprised. Taster's Choice isn't bad.

[Anonymous No.9613239]

>>9613227
>Kickstarter anything

fuck that

[Anonymous No.9613243]

>>9610786
this is just as retarded as claiming there is no difference between the cheapest bosnian swill and a fine burgundy from France.

You are a literal retard

[Anonymous No.9613258]

>>9613243
>You are a literal retard
While he is indeed an idiot, that phrase is also pretty stupid and wrong so please stop using it.

[Anonymous No.9613261]

>>9613227
>Gina Coffee Brewer.
How much does it cost?

[Anonymous No.9613262]

>>9613243
5 minutes until an argument about this post throws this thread over the edge

[Anonymous No.9613267]

>>9609726
8 o'clock 100% Columbian are my fav cheap grocery store beans

[Anonymous No.9613268]

>>9613261
too much

[Anonymous No.9613278]

>>9613267
>>9609726
I know we're talking about supermarket beans, but the best supermarket pre-ground espresso is pic-related IMO

[Anonymous No.9613288]

>>9613239
Yeah agreed but they are coming out of Kickstarter now so I'm going to wait until you can order directly from their website so I know I don't get ripped off.

[Anonymous No.9613299]

>>9609726
Supermarket beans as a general rule are all garbage. If you have a Trader Joes or Whole Foods close, their store brands are dramatically better than mass market beans. As another anon said 8 o'clock isn't horrible either.

[Anonymous No.9613337]

>>9613288
You're getting ripped of either way m8.

[Anonymous No.9613363]

Anyone tried Lavazza coffee? Was it good?

[Anonymous No.9613381]

Tell me how you french press, autists.
Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous No.9613383]

>>9613363
Jesus Christ >>9613278

[Anonymous No.9613399]

>>9613383
I opened the thread at home and then opened it in the underground subway and that reply wasn't loaded yet :>

[Anonymous No.9613420]

>>9613381
Grind beams
Put beam ground in press french
Put hot water in top
Put top of press french
Wait 300 seconds
Press the french
Pour and emjoy

[Anonymous No.9613450]

>>9613381
ideally you don't. it takes a serious grinder to get even remotely even coarse ground coffee without tons of dust. and then at that point it is still one of the worst methods of brewing coffee. always dust in the cup. poor uneven extraction. makes no sense to do it that way when better things are available.

[Anonymous No.9613493]

>>9613450
What is the most convenient and good way, Moka pot?

[Anonymous No.9613502]

>>9613493
Not him, but for me yes definitely. I own all commercial grade grinder and espresso machine and I'd still happily drink coffee made with a good hand grinder and a moka pot. The resulting brew is actually somewhere between an espresso and a french press/pour-over and is quite addictive. Espresso has a flavour that is hard to replicate and the same is true for the moka pot in its own way.

[Anonymous No.9613509]

>>9613493
It's also super convenient, you don't even need to wash it just take apart, rinse it and let it dry disassembled until the next time.

[Anonymous No.9613536]

Which coffee roasters are the best in the USA?

[Anonymous No.9613653]

>>9613536
Whoever's local that you can buy beans from that are only days old

[Anonymous No.9613691]

>>9613653
I understood. But can there be any famous roast with a wide choice of grain and guaranteeing quality?

[Anonymous No.9613706]

>>9613691
>wide choice of grain
Not really necessary. As long as they have 4-5 Americas varieties and another 4-5 of assorted Asian and African ones you'll be fine. Also the smaller the business the easier it is to talk to them and ask for advice regarding what to buy etc.

[Anonymous No.9613778]

>>9613420
>beams
>emjoy
>Press the french

[Anonymous No.9614393]

>>9613778
You don't ground your own beams for pressing french?

[Anonymous No.9615656]

>electric pour over
Isn't this just a drip machine?

[Anonymous No.9616421]

Will Blue Bottle's quality eventually suffer now that they're owned by Nestle?

[Anonymous No.9616429]

>>9609702
Whatever you enjoy the most.
Wine and coffee snobs will get the rope.

[Anonymous No.9616692]

What are good entry-level pump espresso machine brands?

[Anonymous No.9616715]

>>9610616
do you even have taste buds?

[Anonymous No.9616846]

>>9610846
Ah! An anon of taste!

I love McDonald's coffee holy shit.

>large
>7 cream
>4 sugar

sausage mcmuffin, hash browns

[Anonymous No.9616956]

What coffee maker should I get if I only want one cup 99% of the time?

Right now I have a normal drip coffee maker, I make about 4 cups at a time and then they get cold and I have to warm it in the microwave so it tastes like shit

Why aren't there machines where you just press a button that don't cost a fortune?

[Anonymous No.9616982]

>>9616956
50ml Moka pot

[Anonymous No.9616983]

>>9616982
that's a ton of work for some coffee. I'm looking for the opposite

[Anonymous No.9616985]

>>9616983
French press

[Anonymous No.9616988]

>>9616983
Cheap capsule coffee machine

[Anonymous No.9617052]

>>9610459
HAHAHA Susan you animal xD i'll remember to buy this for Dad for christmas LOL say hi to John and the kids for me! xoxoxo love Carol and Greg

[Anonymous No.9617227]

>>9613493
>>9613502
I enjoyed using a Moka pot for a while, but it does brew at a really high temperature and make really strong and bitter coffee. It's not actually espresso, but it's not normal coffee. The main issue with these things is the fact that if you skip using it for one day you have to brew coffee in it to clean it and then make a new batch to drink or it will taste like shit. You also have to run tons of coffee through one when you first get it before it stops tasting like shit. Then once it is seasoned it still kindof tastes like shit.
Aeropress is the most convenient way to make coffee. Pour over gives more control but is less convenient. Aeropress corrects everything wrong with the french press. As long as you use it the inverted way, you're golden.

[Anonymous No.9617232]

>>9616429
coffee snobs aren't as bad as wine snobs at all. People need to understand that coffee is like produce. It is rapidly going bad. Just because you're willing to choke down bitter filth, doesn't mean that's the right way.

[Anonymous No.9617234]

>>9611101
go back to your containment hole plz

[Anonymous No.9617236]

>>9616956
>>9616983
Aeropress definitely. Absolutely the fastest way. Get a Zojirushi hot water boiler and keep it filled at all times. You'll never have to spend more than 5 minutes making coffee.

See here:
>>9613204

[Anonymous No.9617241]

>>9616421
Blue Bottle is finished in my eyes. Their beans cost more than better roasters and their locations aren't enjoyable to visit.

[Anonymous No.9617269]

>>9609677
Does ANYBODY know a good grind and brew that will last longer than a year and is a 12 cup? My second Cuisenart just shit the bed and though it's under warranty I don't want another one.

[Anonymous No.9617295]

>>9617269
any device that does that much in the consumer price point is designed to break.

get a baratza encore for a grinder.

[Anonymous No.9617313]

same anon from yesterday. my cold brew after 22 hours. how does it look now?

[Anonymous No.9617327]

>>9617313
Looks less shitty than the other stuff in your fridge at least

[Anonymous No.9617340]

>>9617227
> it does brew at a really high temperature and make really strong and bitter coffee
That's not necessary, there's a right way to doing it without burning the coffee. You fill the bottom half with water and let it on the stove until it starts boiling, then using a towel or an oven mitt you assemble the moka pot and put it back on the stove and 30-60 seconds later your coffee comes pouring out. That way the coffee grinds don't get exposed to the heat for more than a few seconds and turn bitter. It also requires a coarser grind than even french press, because otherwise you'll get bitterness from the overextracted fine grounds. So actually you can get really sweet and mellow coffee with an almost caramel flavour (provided you're using a good variety) on the Moka Pot.

>The main issue with these things is the fact that if you skip using it for one day you have to brew coffee in it to clean it and then make a new batch to drink or it will taste like shit.
No you don't lol. You just disassemble it and rinse it with water every time you make coffee. It's not that hard to remember.

>Then once it is seasoned it still kindof tastes like shit.
That's because you don't know how to make coffee.

[Anonymous No.9617343]

>>9617295
>baratza encore
Not worth it. Can't properly grind for espresso. You can get a used Super Jolly for that money.

[Anonymous No.9617348]

>>9617313
Remember to shake it around every now and again. Don't just let it sit like that for the full 24 hours because otherwise the dust and finer grounds create a layer between the liquid and the heavier grounds that are the bulk of your coffee in there.

[Anonymous No.9617353]

>>9613278
>preground espresso

[Anonymous No.9617367]

>>9617348
i drained it like twice. do i still have to do this?

[Anonymous No.9617368]

>>9617343
the guy wants an automatic drip brewing system. and if you're in need of a grinder for espresso you're in a totally different game. even the virtuoso is barely good enough for espresso. hardly anyone has an espresso machine and those that do have such shitty ones that they shouldn't have bothered in the first place

[Anonymous No.9617373]

>>9617343
Everyone seems to claim these commercial grinders are always for sale somewhere for no money. Why do I never seen them? Everyone on craigslist in my area charges barely less than retail for Bunn grinders and etc. Not to mention almost nobody wants something that large on their counter regardless of how much space they have.

[Anonymous No.9617650]

>>9617373
Used Super Jollies go for between £120-150 in the UK, same price as a new Baratza. Just need to look harder I guess. Sometimes you can get excellent sub £100 deals but those only pop up once every few months and it's usually someone who doesn't know what they're selling.

Bunns cost almost a grand a half new and are hardcore heavy-duty commercial machines for hotels and big restaurants/diners that last a life time so of course they're gonna be pricey. Unless you're planning to make tons of filter coffee or cold-brew there's no reason for you to get one. Also, their replacement burrs cost $400, the price of a new commercial espresso grinder. Look up the brands that have been recommended ITT.

[Anonymous No.9617656]

>>9617368
My bad, thought he was talking about bean-to-cup espresso machines. In that case a fast kettle, a baratza or used Rancilio Rocky/Gaggia MDF and a V60 will do him fine, it literally takes minutes to make coffee this way, dunno how anyone can't afford the five minutes it takes to weigh and grind the coffee while the kettle is boiling and the two minutes it takes to brew.

[Anonymous No.9617671]

>>9617650
cont'd.

For point of comparison, Bunn FPG grinders have 81(!!) mm burrs compared to those of commercial espresso grinders like the Super Jolly and its peers that are in the 50-70mm range. The idea is that the bigger the burrs the more coffee they can handle and the longer they last. AFAIK the warranty on Bunn burrs lasts for "3 years or 30,000 pounds of coffee, whichever comes first" meaning they are seriously heavy-duty machines that you don't need unless you find some freak-deal.

[Anonymous No.9617919]

>tfw buy an average coffee from a cafe, and the mediocrity of it stings even more because I know that I could do better myself if they let me use the machine.

If only I had space for my own machine I'd get one in a heartbeat.

[Anonymous No.9618140]

>find moka pot in basement
>scrub clean
>put water in it
>heat to clean
>handle melts off
>plastic in the air
>choking
>eyes watering
how retarded am i

[Anonymous No.9618303]

>>9618140
jesus why

[Anonymous No.9618728]

I'm ready to graduate from an aeropress
What do i buy next?

[Anonymous No.9618734]

>>9618728
v60, chemex, or kalita wave

[Anonymous No.9618775]

is french press endgame or is a hario v60 drip coffee good enough?

[Anonymous No.9618801]

>>9618734
>15 styles of V60 size 2's to choose from on amazon

[Anonymous No.9618872]

>>9618775
french press is only for when you're clueless

[Anonymous No.9618974]

>>9618140
How on earth did you manage that? I've actually used a moka pot on a grill on an open fire whilst camping.

[Anonymous No.9618977]

>>9618801
The ceramic one for your house, Plastic or Metal for camping and taking to work or travelling. I'd get the plastic one because it's superlight and cheap as chips.

[Anonymous No.9618983]

>>9618775
V60 > French Press

[Anonymous No.9618996]

>>9616956
get a keurig and a reusable cup.

>>9617232
coffee is supposed to be bitter.

>>9613381
put grounds in the thing and then cover the grounds with water

let it stand for a few minutes

then pour it with water to the top

put the top doohickey on with the plunger all the way up

gently press the plunger down slowly

draw the plunger back up once quickly

plunge down again

let it cool a bit

pour and enjoy

[Anonymous No.9619005]

>>9613243
it's more like saying that between a 10$ box of wine and a 20$ bottle of wine, there's no difference

and really, there isn't. do note that i did say
> unless it's truly those Meme Beans that taste more like red wine than coffee
ultra high end meme coffee does taste radically different but most normal coffee you get is all the same and is probably from the same damn plantations and prepared in the same damn way on the same damn machinery

[Anonymous No.9619153]

>>9619005
more like comparing mad dog and a mid range bottle of wine. i don't know what ultra high end means exactly. the coffee is either fresh or it isn't. if it came from a grocery store it isn't. it's a rapidly spoiling good. like comparing a fresh chili pepper to a dried one.

[Anonymous No.9619232]

>>9616956
French press can do single serve no problem, you could even buy a small one with 1 cup capacity

[Anonymous No.9619270]

>>9619153
>like comparing a fresh chili pepper to a dried one.
dried chili has an entirely different use to fresh chili

you aren't even disagreeing with me. i said that all canned coffee is similar, and you're freaking out about how canning coffee makes it bad. i say it's all mostly the same unless you're getting high end stuff, and you start making analogies about comparing bosnian fortified grape juice to fine french wines.

fuck you, american shithead. go get gassed and bombed by a truck of peace again, faggot. death to america.

>>9619005
they sell tiny french presses for just one or two cups. they're generally called a "bodum" even if they're not a Bodum™ French Press®

[Anonymous No.9619416]

Is a sipping spoon like the one you go to Pho restuarants 2 Tablespoons? they look so much bigger than a "tablespoon" i see on youtube.

[Anonymous No.9619425]

I don't have scale in my kitchen. What's the best bean-to-water ratio for french press when shooting for about 2 cups of coffee? Half the time I don't want to grind too much and waste beans, but then I always end up with too watery coffee. Also do I need to invest in some sort of fancy french press, or will my McPress I got as a gift from starbucks work just the same?

[Anonymous No.9619439]

>>9609726
diet pepsi

[Anonymous No.9619452]

>>9619425
bitch I don't know how you like your coffee, take notes (or mental notes) and do it however you like it best.
a fancy french press can work better, but a cheap one is fine, especially if you don't know any better.

[Anonymous No.9619466]

>>9619270
>they're generally called a "bodum" even if they're not a Bodum™ French Press®
that you and your dad that you have sex with call something by the wrong name doesn't make it generally true.

[Anonymous No.9619473]

>>9619452
I'd rather get other people's ratios rather than waste my precious beans. I got memed into getting a manual grinder so it's another process tacked onto trying to experiment.

[Anonymous No.9619481]

>>9619473
just buy a kcup machine you cocksycker

[Anonymous No.9619486]

>>9618996
it's supposed to having a pleasing bitterness not a metallic acrid bite though

[Anonymous No.9619499]

>>9619466
m8 ive literally seen knockoff bodums literally described as "bodum" as if it's not a trademarked name

>>9619486
stop putting shredded aluminum foil in your coffee then retard

[Anonymous No.9619583]

>>9619425
It's not worth the effort that you will go to. Without a scale you won't be able to control the weight as a variable so you'll take twice as much time working out if the fineness/coarseness of your grind is at fault or the quantity of coffee you're packing into it. Just get a cheap chinese scale. You just want grams nothing fancy like a mg scale. Also, a plastic V60 costs $5 and a packet of 100 filters costs another $5, it's a very cheap upgrade imo.

[Anonymous No.9619592]

>>9619473
Which hand-grinder do you have? If its a good one, it's probably better much better value than the majority of the affordable (new) electric grinders you could have got.

[Anonymous No.9619611]

>>9609677
>I just tried sifting my grounds before doing pour over and 15% of the weight was superfine dust. I tossed that and brewed what did not fall through and it's one of the best cups i've ever had.
I might go find a fine mesh strainer and do the same for french press

[Anonymous No.9619638]

>>9619592
It's called "JavaPresse Coffee Company Manual Coffee Grinder", I got it on sale on amazon for 18 dollars and someone from work told me that doing it manually is better because a lot of cheaper electric ones end up breaking.
>>9619583
Would a plastic v60 affect the taste or anything?

[Anonymous No.9619657]

>>9619638
>JavaPresse Coffee Company Manual Coffee Grinder
Yep, it's a porlex knock-off and it's actually quite decent. It's not so much about how easily they break but about the grind quality and this one is easy to adjust and dirt-cheap. You need to go over $70 to get the cheapest new burr grinder available, anything below that is a blade grinder which is just shit and shouldn't really be used for coffee at all.

[Anonymous No.9619658]

>>9619657
Forgot to mention that yours is an actual burr grinder, so yeah hand-grinder for people on a budget are not a meme at all. (Should have gone for a Hario or a Porlex though IMO)

[Anonymous No.9619673]

>>9619638
Would a plastic v60 affect the taste or anything?
Absolutely not, used it for a year every day and saw no difference whatsoever. The only argument for the ceramic one could be something to do with heat retention or some autistic detail like that.

Definitely don't get the fancy Hario kettle or shitty Hario glass beaker as shown in the pic. That's the crap they make their profit out of I think. Just use a normal kettle or an extra big mug/measuring cup.

[Anonymous No.9619701]

Speaking of grinders. Ugly but perfect, fuck dosers honestly.

[Anonymous No.9619704]

>>9617313
it'll pair well with that jar of pickled sheep's testicles in the back

[Anonymous No.9619719]

>>9617313
Should be ready by now. Have you tried it yet?

[Anonymous No.9619726]

>>9613227
you know what i need for making coffee? a fucking smart coffee maker i mean how did nobody think of it before, with a smartphone app and everything wowie i cant wait to connect my iphone to my coffee pot like a fucking dickhead

[Anonymous No.9619763]

>>9619726
>Smartphone controlled coffee machine
You can actually do that and it produces the same results as a $1000+ espresso machine with less than $100 (used Gaggia Classic included in the price) and makes for a cool project. Only thing missing is a pre-heater for the water that enters the boiler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0iCTIJCmbQ

[Anonymous No.9620100]

That feel when I'm craving an espresso but it's the middle of the night. Why does decaf have to taste so bad?

[Anonymous No.9620228]

>>9620100
Maybe you have an addiction and need to get help

[Anonymous No.9620246]

>>9610616
you're an idiot

[Anonymous No.9620265]

>>9610616
>coffee is probably the cheapest thing you can drink
look into water, it's one of the main ingredients of coffee and you can drink it by itself.

[Anonymous No.9620275]

>>9620100
swiss water process is a meme and still tastes like shit

[Anonymous No.9620292]

>>9620275
Exactly. I had high hopes for it, but it was really dreadful. I find it hard to describe, it tasted like ass. And it was meant to be a good Columbian variety too. Waste of money.

[Anonymous No.9620298]

>>9620228
I think so.

[Anonymous No.9620454]

>>9619673
Idk have the kettle and would not go back, it's a joy to use

[Anonymous No.9620623]

>>9609726
Just drink more expensive beans less often.

$18*1 = $6*3

[Anonymous No.9620628]

>>9619763
Nope. Still has a shit vibratory pump. Mod it into a rotary pump or gear pump mamhine and try again.

[Anonymous No.9620650]

>>9620275
Swiss water is fucking great at removing damn near all of the caffeine for people with heart issues and shit.

Other processes taste better.

[Anonymous No.9620658]

>>9609726
cafe bustelo by fucking far

[Anonymous No.9620667]

>>9620628
How is the vibratory pump shit if you can control it's pressure output like in the arduino project (in the photo not the video http://www.cyberelectronics.org/?p=458 ) ? Replacing it with a rotary or gear pump should not be that hard by the way, just expensive.

[Anonymous No.9620674]

>>9620667
Because there's always a slight uncontrollable preinfusion at the start due to the nature of the pump. With a gear pump you can jump straight to any pressure with or without preinfusion.

[Anonymous No.9620675]

>>9620650
Any suggestions?

[Anonymous No.9620765]

>>9620674
Both the Raspberry Pi and the Arduino projects have a pre-infusion feature built in, basically when you press the brew button the three-way solenoid valve is opened for a couple of seconds before the pump actually starts. It's a simple mod and means you don't have to get a whole new pump that may not even fit. Some people choose to relocate outside the box entirely but then you might as well get a proper commercial machine.

[Anonymous No.9620771]

>>9620765
My point is that you *can't* ever choose to have no preinfusion with a vibratory pump, and any preinfusion you do choose to have always has a second or two at the start that isn't in your total control. Vibratory pumps all start off softer, it's inherent to the pump design.

[Anonymous No.9622282]

>>9619673
the plastic one is fine. it just doesn't retain heat as much as the ceramic.

[Anonymous No.9623665]

>>9610800
a v60 is probably the single worst pourover cone to get without a kettle
also where do you live/how much coffee do you drink?

[Anonymous No.9623708]

>>9616421
what a meme of a coffeeshop
I went by one the other day, they had no single-origin african coffees, the packaging for their "three africas" had nothing on it but branding, and they served hot coffee in glass mugs with tiny handles (ensuring you burn your hands half-cupping it and trying not to drop and break it). incredibly uninteresting cup of coffee too
if there was quality, it's (anecdotally) gone

[Anonymous No.9623763]

>>9623665
>a v60 is probably the single worst pourover cone to get without a kettle
Who uses a V60 without a kettle? I don't understand what you're talking about.

>also where do you live/how much coffee do you drink?
UK. Two coffees a day minimum. Usually espressos. 1 if it's a pour over. Why?

[Anonymous No.9623934]

>>9623763
you didn't budget for a kettle, and most people in the us don't have one, let alone a gooseneck
your grinder shtick is off too, if you get an ex-commercially used grinder you'll almost certainly need to replace the burrs, and at that point you could just get one of those meme $100-200 hand grinders
I also don't think I've ever seen a non-shit american roaster with online sales, to drink at your price point here basically requires roasting your own

[Anonymous No.9624057]

>>9623934
>you didn't budget for a kettle, and most people in the us don't have one, let alone a gooseneck
Good point I didn't think of that - almost every house has a kettle here. Even unfurnished rental flats usually have one lying around in a cupboard somewhere and you can get them very cheaply. If you DON'T own one already, then maybe a gooseneck kettle is worth the money otherwise it definitely isn't.

>your grinder shtick is off too, if you get an ex-commercially used grinder you'll almost certainly need to replace the burrs, and at that point you could just get one of those meme $100-200 hand grinders
Not necessarily true at all. I bought a used Eureka MDCMA (pic-related) for $75, cleaned it and got replacement 65mm burrs (that judging on my 80g a day maximum usage, I'll never have to replace) for about $45. So essentially I got a brand new commercial grinder with micrometre adjustment for $120 that will never need to be replaced or upgraded as it's already top quality and super reliable.

Also specialty hand-grinders like the Comandante are one of the most infuriatingly overpriced meme accessories I can think of. I'd only get one if I had money to burn and iirc they're usually at least $200 and some even have a waiting list as they're hand-made by the same kind of ridiculous hipsters that buy them.

>I also don't think I've ever seen a non-shit american roaster with online sales, to drink at your price point here basically requires roasting your own
That's a big shame, in the UK we have excellent online based roasters. It's a really good idea because a roaster isn't the sort of place people think of visiting on their grocery-run so renting commercial premises drives your costs up for no reason. How much does it cost to buy good third-wave coffee in the US? Can't you find it in specialty cafes or grocery stores?

[Anonymous No.9624073]

>>9624057
>roasting your own
Interesting idea by the way, but I guess it depends on two things:

How well you can replicate the results of a good roaster without buying expensive professional equipment or devoting half your house to it.

How much cheaper green beans are to roasted ones (no idea).

My great-grandfather had a stove-top roaster and roasted his own coffee kinda like pic-related.

[Anonymous No.9624155]

>>9624057
some "nicer" grocery stores nominally stock nicer coffee, but they rotate it with the same frequency as everything else, so it's been on a shelf for a month when you get to it. I get roasted coffee from a small cafe-roaster near me. I sometimes go to cafes with rotating beans from nonlocal independent roasters, but they're invariably >$20/lb before shipping, compared to $15ish/lb at the other place.
>>9624073
you don't need to devote your house to it, you can get decent results with popcorn-poppers (stovetop/electric), and better ones with a drum roaster (there're further tiers I assume you have little interest in). green coffee is far cheaper than roasted, I don't know what your regional equivalent would be, but sweet marias would provide a decent benchmark and is what I've used (though I fall back onto pre-roasted often out of laziness/variety). you come out ahead reasonably quickly if you don't count your time

[Anonymous No.9624236]

>>9624155
$15/pound is good, $20/pound before shipping is too much I'd say. I get mine online for about $10-11/pound before shipping, so just under what you pay.

I'd be interested in trying roasting it myself even for the fun of it. I just checked sweet maria and they stock some of my favourite central American varieties for about half the price that I get them pre-roasted. Does the quality of the results compare to pre-roasted?

Seems like air-poppers are the best, cheap way to do it.

[Anonymous No.9624520]

>>9609677
>General

[Anonymous No.9624953]

That's an awfully hot coffee pot.

[Anonymous No.9625603]

Got my first moka pot. Lavazza oro tastes amazing compared to my french press. Really recommend it.

[Anonymous No.9626278]

>>9625603
My moka pot should be arriving tonight, what a coincidence, anon.

[Anonymous No.9626611]

>>9625603
>>9626278
I'm not a fan of moka pot because while it tastes OK it is a pita to clean. Same complaint I have of french press (on top of the sediment).

[Anonymous No.9626647]

>>9610616
>>9610630
>>9610637
>>9610718
>>9610759
>>9610764
>>9610770
>>9610786
>>9610800
>>9610804
>>9610846
>>9611044
>>9611101
all me.

[Anonymous No.9626710]

>>9625603
>>9626278
These are good instructions. https://www.stumptowncoffee.com/blog/brew-guides-moka-pot

Also, don't remember if its mentioned but make a little pyramid with your coffee in the basket and don't tamp it just screw the top on.

[Anonymous No.9626750]

>>9626611
>cleaning your moka pot

[Anonymous No.9627693]

>>9626710
Aren't you supposed to level it off? What's better about making a pyramid?

[Anonymous No.9627892]

>>9627693
Extra coffee. But you shouldn't put so much that you need to tamp it with a tamper, it's too much and you'll choke it. You need just a bit more than fit in the basket by filling it to the rim, ergo a pyramid/cone shape

[Anonymous No.9627905]

>>9627693
There's also the tamping with a spoon and pricking five holes with a toothpick method which I must admit I've never tried. You can do it for science.

[Anonymous No.9628559]

What coffee should I buy in bulk online? I prefer darker roasts.

I'm moving to a remote location and don't want to drive down from the mountains just for coffee.

[Anonymous No.9628608]

>>9628559
Whatever you buy in bulk, re-seal it in smaller air tight half-pound packs to keep it fresh longer.

[Anonymous No.9628877]

What's the optimal price to quality ratio for whole bean coffee and why is it $6.25 a pound?

I found the quality plateaus at the $6.25/lb mark and anything below that is hot garbage.

[Anonymous No.9628881]

>>9628877
What do you get for $6.25 a pound?

[Anonymous No.9628885]

>>9628881
a pound of med. roast organic peru single origin

[Anonymous No.9628936]

>>9628885
Nice. I get the exact same one for twice what you pay because my local roaster doesn't do bulk. He only sells it in half-pound bags.

[Anonymous No.9629049]

>>9628877
$18-$22/lb roasted or $6-$8/lb green

There's very occasionally one worth it past that, but almost every time it's just the name.

[Anonymous No.9629050]

>>9629049
Actually /12oz, rather, on the roasted

[Anonymous No.9630654]

>>9627905
Wouldn't the water just travel through the holes, not extracting all the coffee? Same principle with having cracks in a tampered espresso handle-thing (can't remember the name).

[Anonymous No.9630659]

What is best brand water for V60?

[Anonymous No.9630716]

I've been using a 3cup moka everyday for the last 6 months.
Most of the time I make a delicious cup of coffee, and drink it with a little bit of milk just to take the edge of a little.
But sometimes, maybe 10% of the time, the coffee that I make tastes like shit. It feels underextracted and slightly more sour than usual.
What the fuck happened? Since I make it at home everything should be consistent since I use the same stove, same grind size, same water.
This is really frustrating because usually I just throw out the shit cup.

[Anonymous No.9630810]

do people actually drink 4 cups of coffee daily? max ive had is 3.

[Anonymous No.9630814]

>>9628877
>paid 17 CAD for a pound of medium roast Kenyan AAA
did i fuck up?

[Anonymous No.9630829]

>>9630810
Depends on what they mean by "cups".
My mugs are easily 2 standard US cups, I have one of those in the mornings and sometimes another in the evenings.
I consider 1 cup of coffee to be 12-16oz, but that's probably 4 italian cups.

[Anonymous No.9630855]

Another moka put complaint here. The coffee is great. But when I open the pot to clean it -- it smells fucking disguising. It smells like all the good stuff from the ground were extracted and the leftover is really realllllllly bad stuff that is left. Why?

[Anonymous No.9630869]

>>9630829
A cup is a standard unit of measure. 8 fl oz or 237 mL.

[None !OPIATE9fy. No.9630874]

been drinking pic related (instant)

I put 2 sorta heaping coffee scoops for a cup (must be more than a tablespoon each) but the directions say use a heaping teaspoon

anyway to test how much caffeine im ingesting? container doesn't say how many mg it has per serving which I think should be standard

[Anonymous No.9630996]

>>9609765
For a lot of people, coffee is necessary to boost attentiveness, productivity, and geniality.

For such people, it's a basic need to maintain their lifestyle.

[Anonymous No.9631037]

>>9630996
Those people are known as addicts.

[Anonymous No.9631148]

>>9630654
Yeah that's definitely my guess too. I think you're talking about the portafilter.

[Anonymous No.9631154]

>>9630716
Do you use soap when washing the moka pot? Anyway sour is usually a sign of underextraction so since your grind size isn't changing you might be putting less coffee in there without realising.

[Anonymous No.9631160]

>>9630855
>It smells like all the good stuff from the ground were extracted
Because that's what happened. Use those grounds for compost they're good shit

[Anonymous No.9631208]

>>9630659
Distilled with a third wave water capsule.

You can also mix your own for cheaper (as I do), but it's somewhat involved.

[Anonymous No.9631209]

>>9610616
>it's daunting at 10 bucks a can, but a can will last you like two months.
This is you.

>>9609677
I like your pic OP. Wish I could build a comfy little cafe and actually make enough to keep the lights on.

[Anonymous No.9631249]

>>9631209
Speaking of, what do you all look for in a cafe?

[Anonymous No.9631279]

>>9631249
Pretty much OP's pic related. I live in a landlocked suburban hellhole on the border with Mexico, though. It's a million degrees outside for most of the year, and not designed for foot traffic besides.

I would say take a look at some cafes in D.C. Decoration is key to comfy. I don't need a bunch of tacky flair on the walls, but I don't want to be seated in a bare dining hall either. Pin a rug or two up, have some convenient shade, and attentive wait staff. Play low-key music that matches the menu/decor. It will fill a silence and mask the chattering apes at the next table. Tapas are almost a must if you're going to turn a profit I think. So you've got to be near a fresh seafood source and some local farms. My place has neither. Goddamnit I don't want to live on the coasts I like Texas. :( Oahu has some nice gourmet spots.

If I'm running the place, it's going to be coffee + liquor + a selection of tapas (limit 3) + a signature permanent menu item that is cheap and good. (Not noodles.) Maybe roast beef and egg sandwiches.

[Anonymous No.9631292]

>>9631148
>portafilter
My man, that's the word.

[Anonymous No.9631301]

>>9613509
>and keep check of gasket seals and cure the rubber everytime you change them lest it tastes like shit
mmmhhh

[Anonymous No.9631318]

>>9613778
homeboy has had enough beam today

[Anonymous No.9631369]

>>9631279
That's an old day cafe restaurant bar and once you have alcohol and food involved, your potential profits may indeed increase but you also risk to fuck things up exponentially more. A niche cafe/tea room is a much easier business to pull off with a good profit margin if you roast your own beans (and being next to Mexico you could be smart about it and get ultra cheap deals on top quality central american beans). If you're in a landlocked suburban hellhole without much of a neighborhood/street/walking culture then in terms of design you should go for something inward looking, perhaps centred on a small atrium or courtyard to create your own atmosphere as you don't want people looking at yet another motorway. (pic-related)

[Anonymous No.9631375]

>>9631301
They sell silicon gaskets and "curing" a rubber gasket literally means making a couple of cups of coffee. Just get a capsule machine if you're that lazy/stupid

[Anonymous No.9631380]

>>9631160
Can I just throw my filter with the wet grounds in a pile outside and expect it to biodegrade into dirt?

[Anonymous No.9631398]

I signed up for blue bottle. What am I in for? How did I fuck up?

[Anonymous No.9631407]

>>9631375
I just meant that not having to wash it does not necessarily make it more "convenient"
also, just wash it anyway you filthy cunt

[Anonymous No.9631420]

>>9631398
I clicked their store and they sell a $30 pourover cone that has a tiny as fuck exit hole meaning your shit coffee is going to be overextracting in the filter long before it gets a chance to exit the dripper.
They clearly don't give a fuck.

[Anonymous No.9631724]

mmmmmm. some delicious coldbrew hopefully

[Anonymous No.9631951]

Got myself some red bird after friends suggested it to me, and I'm going to bring it at work as an office kinda present since we all drink coffee.

Hope I didn't done fuck up.

[Anonymous No.9631961]

>>9631951
I could never get myself to purchase mail-order coffee like that, I'd feel like a junkie.

[Anonymous No.9631970]

>>9631961
Someone in this thread suggested to me and when I googled reviews everyone had a e-boner.

Smells really strong though, I'll post results tomorrow when I drink it at the office with the lads.

[Anonymous No.9632011]

>>9619763
How much time was spent sourcing parts, figuring out how to put them together, setting up the electronics, identifying leaks and all other problems, and then tuning it? How's the cleaning on it? It's neato if this is a hobby thing or your time is worth next to nothing, but otherwise I imagine it is shitty in almost every way possible.

[Anonymous No.9632036]

>>9631951
psure thats the coffee those autist at /r/coffee always suggest or have in a sticky

let me know how reddit tastes like

[Anonymous No.9632342]

Are there any online services like monthly boxes but for coffee?

[Anonymous No.9632581]

>>9631961
What the hell is your problem? You can mail-order everything nowadays and it's usually better quality/better value than buying it in a store.

[Anonymous No.9632600]

I have coworkers that know good coffee from bad coffee just by smelling, what does good coffee smell like compared to shit whole foods house brand coffee.

[Anonymous No.9632719]

>>9632600
Good coffee can vary a lot, but it generally has a strong smell and doesn't smell "bad".
If you enjoy the smell, it's going to taste good.

If you want to smell terrible coffee, just buy any preground and leave it for a day out in the open, it starts to smell sickly sweet and has no strong characteristics, this is what "stale" smells like.
Burnt coffees can smell foul, even when "fresh".

[Anonymous No.9632732]

>>9632581
For small items sure, I still wouldn't buy food online and have it shipped.
Who knows what fucking backwards warehouse operation made that coffee and bagged it for sale.
At least if I buy it in a store, I can get a refund if it's terrible, which I've done, many times.

[Anonymous No.9632756]

>>9632342
>mfw I didnt scroll up to see Red Bird

I guess that will do. Hope it's not too strong like most of the "fair trade organically sourced herpity derpity" kinds I've tried.

[Anonymous No.9632827]

>>9632732
I've had Amazon replace, refund or even just send me a new product countless times sometimes without even any questions asked. And they are indeed an actual anonymous warehouse conglomerate type place. Coffee online sellers are usually just coffee-fanatic hipster roasters that don't want to pay rent on shopfront premises but reach a larger audience. I think you're just a bit behind-the-times m8.

[Anonymous No.9633469]

Bought a french press and burr grinder a few days ago with coffee beans. First time I've tried french press since I've been paying attention to coffee quality.

Holy shit, even better than the drip-filter, and there's no way I can ever go back to instant now.

Best investment I've made in a while. Can't believe most of the UK's coffee drinkers are all on instant coffee.

[Anonymous No.9633523]

>>9633469
What did you buy? Good to hear you're not drinking instant anymore, that stuff really is impossible to go back to. Get a Moka Pot whenever you have a spare £15 as their coffee is a nice change to french press/filter whenever you get tired of it.

[Anonymous No.9633527]

>>9633469
If you're in the UK I recommend this website.

http://www.thebeanshop.co.uk/

[Anonymous No.9633533]

How do you feel about aldi coffee?
Their blended stuff uses tiny low grade beans, but their single-origin stuff is pretty good, the beans are full size and consistent, and much better than other supermarket coffees I've had at around the same price.

[Anonymous No.9633561]

>>9633533
Really good price. Haven't tried it but the best advice I can give you is to really search the shelf for the newest/freshest bags by looking at the expiry date.

You can actually get good deals on really excellent products at Aldi and Lidl occasionally. A couple of years ago this was on sale for about $8.

[Anonymous No.9633563]

>>9633561
I should point out it was massive, it was between half and 2/3 the entire length of the fish.

[Anonymous No.9633881]

>>9633523

Lavazza. Asking around most people were pointing to that as the best option in that price range (£10/kg). Once I'm done with this pack I intend to start trying around specialty beans and more prestigious brands to try and find a favourite. And I'll keep that Moka Pot in mind.

>>9633527
Yep, UK. Thanks for that link lad!
I was a bit disappointed to hear that most of the coffeehouse styles, lattes and cappuccinos and such, are all made with espresso which I didn't know as a coffee pleb. Don't really feel like investing in an espresso machine at the moment. But for now the coffee is plenty enjoyable.

[Anonymous No.9633979]

>>9633881
Do you remember which Lavazza it was? I've heard good things about the red label. In any case the beanshop will be far superior to any mainstream brand.

Well you can *sort of* replicate those coffees by using the coffee that a Moka Pot produces if you're not too picky, as essentially Moka Pot coffee is a slightly weaker espresso. Try it and see. Amazon UK has the Allegra, which has a silicon gasket instead of a rubber one so should live longer and is still made by Bialetti.

If you do ever decide to go for an espresso machine, definitely do not buy a new one, as you'll pay through the nose and they depreciate like crazy. Also a good rule of thumb for espresso is that your grinder should cost as much or even more than your machine as it's actually the more important part of the equation.

[Anonymous No.9634022]

I love dunkin donuts coffee. What's the best brewing method to get a similar taste if I buy their beans?

[Anonymous No.9634024]

>>9634022
Probably fukin drip

[Anonymous No.9634492]

hi, idk why the coffee on another places is so bad. people from here complain every time they go to another country and have to drink coffee that tastes like nothing. maybe the cofeeshops are greedy and minimize the quantity of coffee at maximum, or it is a cultural thing, having pussies that cant handle the real flavor.

keep trying at home your recipes and dont try to cut the powder quantity to be cheap

pic is a real coffee, not watered piss

[Anonymous No.9634716]

>>9634492
Get outta here Lusitanian, we're better

[Anonymous No.9634967]

Found this in ikea, is it made for v60, lol?

[Anonymous No.9634996]

>>9613363
They serve it drip at Gristedes. Pretty good.

[Anonymous No.9635000]

>>9634996
I mean, it does not have those spiral things, but you can definitely put a filter on top

[Anonymous No.9635001]

>>9618996

[Anonymous No.9635600]

>mom made my black coffee this morning
>taste better than what I usually have
apparantly i use too much coffee making it too strong. fuck why is making coffee so difficult.

[Anonymous No.9635604]

>>9635600
>fuck why is making coffee so difficult.
What's hard about it?
You just seem unwilling to experiment with different amounts of grounds, temps, and brands/types of coffee to find what you like.

[Anonymous No.9635742]

>>9635600
Use a fucking scale and you'll always have the right amount

[Anonymous No.9635879]

>>9634967
Looks more like a chemex to me. You can use a paper filter directly.

[Anonymous No.9635929]

>>9610616
i like how a relatively inoffensive post like this triggered everyone

>"WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DON'T SPEND HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS ON COFFEE REEEEEEEEE"

you're the kind of people who insist all-clad and stag's leap are the only way to go

[Anonymous No.9636021]

>>9609677
Fucking what? Get a real grinder.

>>9610846
Seriously tho. Long road trip, endless highways and no decent pickmeup? Fkn small vanilla cone, drop that sweet cream into a large coffee and Ronald McDonald paradise.


>>9612270
Great for the convenience and versatility. Good place to play around brew variables.

>>9613227
Acacia huh. What’s you brew ratio?

>>9613536
Four Barrel, Dogwood, Madcap

>>9620298
That’s a might sexy pull anon.

>>9632342
Specialty roasters usually offer that sort of thing online.

[Anonymous No.9636050]

>>9609677
I actually went to this cafe a few months ago with a good friend. It was pouring rain and we had to wait a good 15 minutes at the door because it was packed. By the time we got in we were sopping wet so they sat us on the tatami mats upstairs so we could take our shoes off and relax. Not sure why I picked an almond cappuccino over their pour over. It was tasty though.

[Anonymous No.9636173]

>>9636050
Where was the cafe?

[Anonymous No.9636177]

>>9635929
Nobody cares how much money you spend on coffee, it's been shown here how you can drink top-quality coffee very cheaply. Equating instant to freshly ground single origin just shows ignorance or a burnt-out palette.

[Anonymous No.9636317]

>>9636173
In Tokyo. Here's the article I read.
https://www.timeout.com/tokyo/restaurants/kayaba-coffee