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9511693 No.9511693 [Reply] [Original]

So, I'm shopping at price rite because I fucking buy my own food because I work and am responsible human being and i dont like getting ripped off on milk and produce. Instead of just making my trip around the outside of the store, i have to navigate these literal trains of carts overflowing with processed garbage foods pushed by these subhuman, filthy, worthless, literal dregs of society.

Why should these unproductive wastes of life have access to the same foods that you and I, paying customers, also have access to? I'm sure there's grade B foods that they can live off of or some type of generic foods for them to eat and shit out and give to their fucking awful snot nosed brown babies to then shit out.

Does it enrage you to see people getting $500 in free food when you are footing the bills for their obesity and lethargy?

Food stamps/EBT should only include fresh vegetables or canned goods and not include shit like soda, chips, candy, and hot fuckin pockets.

>> No.9511699

Right there with you brother. I haven't had steak or shellfish in years. I could afford it but I'd rather spend that money on more important things. You don't have to worry about how you spend your money when you're a worthless piece of shit on welfare.

>> No.9511705

>>9511693
>Why should these unproductive wastes of life have access to the same foods that you and I, paying customers, also have access to?

...because welfare riots

https://www.jstor.org/stable/799903?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

>> No.9511707

>>9511699
OP here, i buy steaks by the entire loin/strip/etc, it may be $50+, but i can get about 10-15 filet mignons for around $5/lb. freeze that shit and it can last around a year if you wrap it good enough.
shellfish, just ew no.

>> No.9511824

>>9511693
I worked at grocery stores for a few years and while there are definitely people who abuse ebt it's not like all these people are living large. If its a choice between giving out welfare or letting people and kids go hungry I'd rather just let them have their welfare. Also I'm pretty sure the average payout is like 100 dollars not.
And despite what you think most of these people aren't brown either, though of course blacks make up a bigger percentage by population.

>> No.9513052

if people on food stamps are eating better than you, you might want to reexamine your life

>> No.9513057

>>9513052
Or get on food stamps yourself.

>> No.9513080

>>9511705
>dude correlation = causation lmao

>> No.9513099

>>9511693
It doesn't really bother me if I'm honest.

>> No.9513173

>>9511824
>If its a choice between giving out welfare or letting people and kids go hungry
How about we cut welfare and you can feed tyron'e's kids.

>> No.9513229

>>9511699

>You don't have to worry about how you spend your money when you're a worthless piece of shit on welfare.

Piece of shit here. $190 a month living in a low cost area and I eat better than the wage slaves. Not only because they are eating rice and beans but I have unlimited time for shopping and cooking.

>> No.9513243

I'm originally from the deep south and near the start of every month when the government checks go out I'd see all the local markets packed with blacks filling their carts with junk food. Seriously. I'm one of those cynical mother fuckers who judges everyone else by what's in their cart. I don't recall ever seeing a single vegetable--fresh, frozen, or canned--in any of their carts. Very few meats either. It was all junk food like Doritos and sugar water. It was so sad to watch the kids who were with their mothers (no fathers, of course) and know they had the beetus knocking on their doors.

>> No.9513248

>>9511693
Food stamps helped me escape poverty. Everyone wants to escape poverty except wineos on the street

>> No.9513262

>>9513173
I'd rather Tyrone over the hoards of Juan's and Jose's.

>> No.9513277

>>9511693
>Does it enrage you to see people
i really dont give a fuck what people do as long as they leave me be, I really have more important shit in my life to worry about. however, if i could get ebt i would use it too, why not take free shit?

>> No.9513288

>>9511693
>Food stamps/EBT should only include fresh vegetables or canned goods and not include shit like soda, chips, candy, and hot fuckin pockets.

Food stamps exist to subsidize farmers, giving food to the poor is a secondary benefit.
The farmer doesn't care if his produce gets served farm fresh or if it gets rendered into junkfood by factory robots, what matters to him is that he managed to sell all of his crops.

>> No.9513315

>>9511693
It's the corporate lobbyists buying our elected politicians. If you support any of those laws that allow campaign contributions to politicians from corporate sources, you cannot complain about what kind of junk food is permissible under SNAP. (Well, you can, but it just makes you retarded.)

>> No.9513331

>>9511705
Let them riot so they can be put down like the dogs they are

>> No.9513340

>>9511693
worry less about what other people have, or do not have, and worry a little bit more about yourself

>> No.9513483

>>9513340
But then how can he claim superiority?

>> No.9513495

>>9511693
They actually used to give rations to poor people, exactly the the grade B food you're describing.

I guess allowing niggers to get fat on the taxpayer dime is worth it though.

>> No.9513535

>>9511693
SNAP was capped at like $40 max per week, my dude. Though I agree, instead of letting them shop it should be a ration of veg, beans, rice, eggs, and fruit. Nothing pisses me off more than raising farm animals in cramped, profit-maximizing conditions only to slaughter and feed to some obese subhumans and their spawn.

>> No.9513549

>>9513243
now they want single payer to pay for the mistakes they made at the grocery store. Typical

>> No.9513552

>>9513243
Do you have farmers markets near there? I always hit those for fresh fruit and vegetables but I feel judged when I go to the store and don't load any in my cart. Shit's overpriced at the supermarket.

>> No.9513564

>>9513277
>why not take free shit?
Do you have dignity? I would feel ashamed to have the taxpayer subsidize my life

>> No.9513579

Thought I was on /pol/ for a second and wondered why the background was the wrong color.

>> No.9513593

>>9511693
The company I worked for making 10k a month shut down indefinitely this spring. Now due to location restrictions I'm working two jobs and neither allow me enough to retain my lease, insurance, etc, and also afford food. I paid into it for years, now I need it and I'm guessing most of the people on it do too. Here's your (you), hope you choke on it.

>> No.9513595

Why is everyone falling for this pol-tier bait?

>> No.9513599

I wish we had food stamps here in Australia.
I don't like the idea of my tax dollars going to an unemployed bum that spends his welfare on drugs, cigarettes and alcohol.

>> No.9513619

>>9511693
Why do you care so much?

>> No.9513621

>>9513564
>lack of dignity due to subsidies

Then stop buying anything with factory farmed food or using the pirate medico-pharma bois. You're so far bent over and used to the pain, you don't even realize when your overlords forced your face into dogshit.

>> No.9513623

>>9511693
>Dumbshit of a sister married an ex junkie
>Ex junkie becomes just junkie again
>Junkie sells foodstamps at 1/2 price

>Neighbor girl moves away to grow weed (family still here)
>Comes back to visit
>Hang out because she won't leave me the fuck alone
>Has ounces of weed, few thousand in the bank from a grow
>And pulls out fucking food stamps to buy pre-made sushi

And that's when I completely lost faith in the system.

>> No.9513650

>>9511693
bought shrimp and ice cream with ebt today.

fuck yes

>> No.9513670

>>9511693
desu I'm more mad about defense contractors getting billions per year to make more shit than the military even needs.

>> No.9513689

>>9513552
Oh yeah. Down south we love our local farmers markets. In fact many southerners have their own gardens. Our climate is such that we can maintain gardens for 8-9 months out of the year.

>> No.9513694

>>9513549
You're so fucking right on that one. Not to take things in this direction, but I am a supporter of the ACA and hopeful for it's expansion, but single payer is a step too far. I don't think it's fair that people should be written a blank check in that way.

>> No.9513710

I don't eat much anyway. I own a house. These wefare rats live in shitty section 8 apartments cloistered together. I can play my music or movies up loud all night and my neighbors can't hear shit and complain like they do at an apartment complex. Sure I can sell my house then go on welfare but I enjoy living in a nice neighborhood, working to help the economy, and being fit and not stuffing my face with tons of garbage every day sitting around all day watching maury povich and dr. phil. I ain't even mad. I'm doing my part killing the dregs of society with my entitlement paychecks that come with diabeetus and meth overdoses (trading ebt cards for ice).

>> No.9513728

>not getting food stamp
you're already paying taxes for them
you might as well get it too

>> No.9513739

>>9513670
>a nation vying for global supremacy doesn't need military spending
Yeah, Americans have such a high standard of living because everyone just likes us. Moron

>> No.9513758

>>9513623
I agree, if weed was legal this wouldn't happen

>> No.9513771

>>9513739
Not that anon, but he isn't talking about "military spending", he's talking about defense contractors fleecing the government for all it's worth and not producing anything of military value. They're allowed to waste billions of taxpayer dollars because they give kickbacks to politicians who approve these defense contracts and they promise high ranking military men cushy consulting jobs after their service is up as long as they go before congress and explain the waste as being "in the interest of national security". Defense contractors are simply a higher level of welfare leeching nigger.

>> No.9513827

>>9513739
>muh endless wars in afghanistan and iraq for over 20 years sho' nuff got me an extry mcchicken, sho' nuff did dun dat.

>> No.9513852

>>9513340
>Don't worry about what your tax dollars are used for
Fuck off, leech

>> No.9513869

>>9513619
Because people are using his tax dollars to buy junk food and other garbage?

>> No.9513870
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9513870

>>9513739
lol
I would be amused about the Cletuses and Billy Bobs of the world getting scammed this hard, if I wasn't also paying for it.

>> No.9513875

>>9513827
You retard. One aircraft carrier cost more than those wars and having the undisputed goat navy is worth a lot more than some oil in the desert

>> No.9513930

>>9513875
>One aircraft carrier cost more than those wars
lol not even close

>> No.9513931

>>9513827
>I don't know how the petrodollar works

people under 30 should not have opinions

>> No.9513935

sorry sweetie, but whypipo use more food stamps than anyone else

>> No.9513976

>I sure do hate that poor people can buy food.

What the fuck kind of poor life choices are you making where some fuck-off on food stamps eats better than you?

>> No.9513981

>>9513935
Oh. Don't use statistics against white people. Because they've got a ton of statistics they can throw back at you.

Tons.

>> No.9513989

>>9513976
>I love when drug addicts use my money to buy candy and soda

>> No.9513996

>>9513989
If they die of nutrition problems because they aren't spending their food money properly, that's on them not me. At least they had a chance.

Also please remember to sage this shit thread, it's off-topic as fuck.

>> No.9514023

>>9513989
You might have paid that poor fucker 1/1000th of a cent. You are really keeping him going on his sugar habit.

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9514026

>>9513981

>Don't use statistics against white people.
>Don't use statistics
>NO FACTS ALLOWED


"N-N-NO YOU CAN DO THAT BECAUSE NO"


/thread

>> No.9514028

>>9514023
He doesn't deserve anything from me. He can starve in the fucking streets for all I care.

>> No.9515386

>>9513052
whatever you fucking retard. family with 3 kids on food stamps get like $600/month for foodstamps. If you're spending that much on food you need to reexamine your fucking life.

>> No.9515390

>>9511693
nice COOKING related thread, my friend
not at all a thinly veiled /pol/ thread
not at all

>> No.9515413

>>9513173
Because it goes from Tyrone MIGHT break into your house to Tyrone is GOING to break into your house. People turn from subhumans to pure animals once the food runs out. Welfare isn't for their benefit, it is for yours. Bread and Circuses, never ever forget that.

>> No.9515425

>>9515386
A few years ago before they cut the amounts back I was getting $850 a month for three kids. $10,000 a year tax free plus no sales tax on food stamps. It's fucked up when parasites can eat better than workers

>> No.9515442

>>9511693
>reeeee only I should get to eat my cancer corn and diabeetus juice >:( bring back classism!! tendies for the middle class ONLY
You're pathetic, OP.

>> No.9515448

>>9515425
that was the whole point of my rage man. For a family of 3 i spend around $200/month and we have a generous amount of food to prepare meals with. I can't image spending $500+ a month on food, its such a waste of the peoples money.

>> No.9515455

>>9515413
Oh yeah, lets pay tyrone $100 per crotchfruit to not break into my house. Guess what? he still needs dem money fo dem programs to buy shoes, and iphones, and to pay for his mercedes, and joints.

Are you in a gated liberal paradise?

>> No.9515456

>>9513869
Who gives a fuck? They're taxes. You receive no net gain whether they spend it all on My Little Pony dolls or a bag of vegetables.

>> No.9515459
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9515459

>>9513535
Pol had some picture called the Nigger-Spic circuit where it talked about how we imported mexicans to work on farms in kansas in order to raise more chickens that will be slaughter and deep fried then fed to blacks on welfare until they die of diabetes. I wish i had that

>> No.9515466

>>9515456
The net gain is eliminating welfare for the entitled lazy and keeping that tax money in his own pocket to spend on MLP dolls or a bag of vegetables.

>> No.9515470

>>9515459
Watch some sperg see that webm and complain about those awful chinks using tax dollars to rob innocent Hamericans of their chicken gains (with no knowledge that she's Japanese and in Japan).

>> No.9515472

>>9515466
How will welfare be eliminated if people on welfare stop buying junk food?

>> No.9515477

>>9515472
It won't be eliminated.

I would be eliminated specifically for the entitled and lazy since the only foods provided would be those requiring prep and cooking.

>> No.9515478

>>9515459
>Pol had some picture called the Nigger-Spic circuit
You somehow sound proud that you're using a /pol/-made infographic as a source of some problem on the cooking board of 4chan. Where did your life go so wrong.

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9515480

>>9515478
because one of the real redpills in politics in america is understanding racial differences. Blackhealthcare is so bad because so many of them are morbidly obese because of chikin

>> No.9515487

>>9515477
It doesn't take considerable prep or cooking to bite into a fruit or make a salad.
Next, OP will complain "These lazy subhuman fucks get to eat FRESH, TASTY apples and HEALTHY BROWN RICE when they're not even paying customers? I'm sure there's plenty of expired produce they could live off of. Our tax dollars are allowing the worthless dregs of society to live long, healthful lives and cultivate their filthy spawn. Food stamps/EBT should only include food that's at least a day past its expiry date, or slightly old/rotten vegetables and fruit."

>> No.9515489

>>9515487
>It doesn't take considerable prep or cooking to bite into a fruit or make a salad.
That's fine. At least the money isn't being wasted on junk food.

>>Next, OP will complain...
That's a silly, illogical, extreme and you know it.

>> No.9515490

>>9515386
>whatever you fucking retard. family with 3 kids on food stamps get like $600/month for foodstamps
That's $120 a person a month, or $4 to feed a person a day. Do you even understand the value of a dollar?

>> No.9515498

>>9511693
I sued to work at a grocery store, and EBT use to bother the shit out of me, but at the end of the day, it keeps the dregs quiet and content, makes sure farmers sell there crops, and puts taxpayer money back into the economy. Though i also agree that there should be far more intensive to buy healthier, more balanced groceries. I use to work a t a luxury grocery store in NY called Stew Leonards, nice store, but everything was crazy overpiced, and keep in mind it was right next to a costco, so it wasnt like there were any more adorable options in the area, we had tons of EBT come though, and the worst offendors were always Asians. You would see Hispanics come through with rice, and vegetables, and meat, looked like they would cook up something great. most black people would come through and buy stupid expensive steaks, but hey at least they were eating meat, and not complete garbage, pretty much the same thing with most white people, although they tended to have more sugar water and junk food. But Asian's, fucking Asian's man. None of them spoke English, and they were all over fucking 70, usually had to have there fucking grand children translate for them, and they were just as fucking disrespectful, entitled assholes "ooooh this expensive, price to high" "you go lower, i give you five dorra" then the mother fuckers just pay with EBT, and get mad when it doesn't cover liquor and certain taxes, fucking maddening man. I got some great stories if anyone wants to hear them

>> No.9515501

>>9515489
Look at it this way. OP has already established that those on welfare are "subhuman" . He despises them for even sliding to the point of living off welfare (and offhandedly mentions them having "brown" babies, implying a bit of racism there as well). He does not have their best interest at heart, and he is not thinking of their health, he just wants to see fewer of them.
Junk food will kill them off faster, while fresh produce will enable them to live longer and take even more welfare.

>> No.9515504

>>9515487
This. Their latest rebuttal about EBT being accepted at liquor stores and fast food is there are "food desserts" where they have to travel too far to get to a grocery store.

I say we ship MRE's (reduce calorie, because military MRE's are ~3700 calories each) to their house through the USPS. Comes with a heat source, all the nutrition they need.

>> No.9515509

>>9515501
>Look at it this way.
Why? Your method of looking at it seems inaccurate.

If OP really did consider people in need of welfare to be subhuman then surely he would want to cancel it altogether.

>> He despises them for even sliding to the point of living off welfare
No, he despises the idea of them spending welfare money on junk food in situations in which they clearly don't need it.

>> No.9515510

>>9515490
they shouldnt have had kids then.
>>9515501
salient point
>>9515498
go on

>> No.9515523

>>9515509
>If OP really did consider people in need of welfare to be subhuman
That's what he called them, there's really no ambiguity here. He believes they are subhuman.

>in situations in which they clearly don't need it.
They need to eat. Whether their food choices are healthy is another topic altogether.

>> No.9515534

>>9515523
>That's what he called them, there's really no ambiguity here.
It's obviously hyperbole given that his proposed solution doesn't match what one would conclude from them literally being considered subhuman.

>>They need to eat.
And if they can afford expensive luxuries like junk food, smartphone, "bling", tricked-out SUVs, etc, then they clearly can afford to eat.

That's the point of changing the system so that you provide wholesome food only. You meet nutritional needs, but you don't do it in a way that cultivates laziness.

>> No.9515538

>>9515480
that doesnt change the fact that your life is an embarrassing failure

>> No.9515543

>>9515538
you are projecting pretty hard senpai.

>> No.9515573

>>9511693
>Does it enrage you to see people getting $500 in free food when you are footing the bills for their obesity and lethargy?
Not even a little bit.
>Food stamps/EBT should only include fresh vegetables or canned goods and not include shit like soda, chips, candy, and hot fuckin pockets.
Here's the thing with poor people: they went to school in poor places, so their education is shit. Part of why their poor has nothing to do with laziness. It has to do with never learning how not to be poor. Never realizing there are options open to them. Never learning basic stuff like it's a bad idea to eat like shit. EBT is just a safety net to (hopefully) make sure their kids don't go hungry. Expecting shittily educated people to make smart choices about food is a bit much, when well-informed people even have trouble doing that.

>> No.9515574

>>9515480
webms like this turn me into a moralfag vegan hipster faggot. a chickens life got wasted just so some retarded faggot can make a fisting video

>> No.9515579

>>9515573
>muh education faggot starts posting

>> No.9515581

>>9515510
>they shouldnt have had kids then.
Moving the goalposts I see, an ok shitpost, best I can do is 5/10

>> No.9515588

>>9515573
sucks people pay for others poor choices....

my point was that lets make subpar food available for these cretins, and save the good grade-A shit for the workies.

>> No.9515593

>>9515579
It's true though. If you look at people's diets through the lens of their education level this shit is pretty clear. You don't see a lot of PhD's drinking soda and eating Hot Pockets.

>> No.9515603

>>9515593
never saw a healthy phd either they were all underweight burn outs

>> No.9515605

>>9515588
>sucks people pay for others poor choices....
Yet we do all the time. Look at every military action we've paid for over the last five decades. That's FAR worse than our half-assed attempts to feed the poor. And because they're poor they get treated like second class citizens every fucking day. No reason to amplify that.

>> No.9515609

>>9515534
I mean, you can hear it from the horse's mouth here >>9515588.
If you don't think the logical progression from a thought like "Let's reserve grade A shit for us workies and leave subpar shit for welfarers" is what was described in >>9515487, you're being willfully blind.
He's not even saying he wants them to improve in the OP post, he complains about them getting free food and taxes paying for their continued existence.

>> No.9515611

>>9515455
Yes, yes you should you short sighted dumb fuck. That $100 drastically increases your odds of not being shot in the middle of the night. I have lived in poverty and in a liberal gated paradise, and I know for a fact even in the gated paradise I was never fully safe. But my odds of safety were way better. And dem programs are negotiable and get to be used as a noose around liberals necks every time they want to do fucking shit federally. You feed these fuckers so that you don't have to sleep in shifts at night. It isn't hard to fucking comprehend if you aren't just another pleb fuck who can't see past the next five seconds.

>> No.9515614

>>9515593
I think it must be a case of correlation as opposed to causality.

I have a MS and I'm working on my pHd right now. Not once during my "education" was I ever taught about food or nutrition, except for one tiny section of a mandatory high school course that covered general "health" topics, including drugs, alcohol, "sex ed", and so on. I was told the usual: eat a balanced diet, follow the "food pyramid". Nothing useful regarding food or nutrition was taught.

Were I *did* learn about food was from my upbringing,. My parents. They taught me how to cook. They set the example by never eating fast food and cooking from scratch nearly every day.

The problem, IMHO, is not in what is normally implied by "Education" (i.e. "School"). But instead how people are raised at home.

And by the way, I know plenty of highly intelligent people with advanced degrees who eat god-awful diets, just as I know doctors who smoke.

>> No.9515619

I don't care since I'm not poor white trash and can easily afford whatever food items I want.

>> No.9515625

>>9515614
Take into account that statistically most born into poverty are going to come from younger and less educated parents. This stacks generation by generation as less skills are handed down. Simply put, it is the result of kids raising kids, who are prone to making short term decisions and realizing that the heavily processed foods are more instantly appealing taste wise and tend to be more filling per dollar with the least amount of work. If you fully think out the process you can save more by actually cooking but if these individuals were to that stage of thinking they could begin escaping their life situation...of which many who reach this level do start to rise out of poverty generationally.

>> No.9515627

>>9515614
>Were I *did* learn about food was from my upbringing,. My parents. They taught me how to cook. They set the example by never eating fast food and cooking from scratch nearly every day.
Exactly. But that's a class thing. I grew up middle class, too, and my mother cooked nearly all of the meals we ate from scratch as well. So I learned it was normal to do the same. But imagine not growing up like that. Imagine making it to adulthood where the only fresh vegetables you've seen are the lettuce and tomato on the sandwiches you get from fast food places. If the education you receive doesn't teach you otherwise this will be your normal.

>> No.9515635

>>9515625
That makes sense. And note that it has nothing whatsoever to do with "education" (i.e. K-12)

>> No.9515646

>>9515635
But education could help. If kids are exposed to healthy choices as part of their education they may not choose the healthy options, but at least they'll know they exist.

>> No.9515660

>>9515646
I agree that it "could" help but I think that's not a very efficient use of resources. Education already has the problem of "too-many-things-we-want-to-teach" but not enough time or money to cover them.

I used to be on a panel at my university that worked to meet the "needs" of companies who hired our graduates. It's a constant battle because the industry (and graduate school) demand more technical education, whereas the government insists on loading down schedules with "humanities", Phys Ed, and so on. I'm not saying all these things aren't important--clearly they all are--but we have to draw a line somewhere.

>>at least they'll know they exist
I think everyone, no matter how bad or financially "poor" their upbringing was knows that it's possible to cook food, and that healthier options than fast food exist.

Heck, the people I know who were honestly poor growing up are some of the best cooks. Because when you're honestly, really, truly, poor you can't afford to eat fast food. You have no choice but to scavenge what you can and cook.

>> No.9515666

>>9515504
You aren't allowed to buy alcohol or fast food on food stamps anyway. If you see it happening, report it because it's fraud.

>> No.9515676

>>9515504
>I say we ship MRE's (reduce calorie, because military MRE's are ~3700 calories each)

First off, MREs are nowhere near 3700 caloires each. Where on earth did you get that in your head? Google it. They all have nutrition information posted. Average per meal is about 1300 calories.

Second, MREs are amazingly fucking expensive. You could give people lobster and steak and still save money.

>> EBT being accepted at liquor stores and fast food ...
EBT has never been accepted at those places. There is, however, a black market in which people sell their EBT for a reduced amount of cash, and then can freely spend that cash on whatever they want. Another option is to buy well-known staples with like diapers, or baby formula and then resell that for cash (or barter it for whatever).

>> No.9515687

Also, if anyone's interested, here is the actual federal response to the whole "They should only be able to buy healthy food" suggestion.
https://fns-prod.azureedge.net/sites/default/files/FSPFoodRestrictions.pdf

tl:dr - They concluded that designating foods as luxury or non-nutritious would be administratively costly and burdensome and actually lead to the program being more expensive overall.

>> No.9515690

>>9515660
>I think everyone, no matter how bad or financially "poor" their upbringing was knows that it's possible to cook food, and that healthier options than fast food exist.
True, but class values are strongly reinforced within that social class. It's like the Eddie Murphy bit anut the McDonald's hamburger. To a poor person being able to eat McDonald's is a prestige thing, because they know people who can't afford that. The same way rich people favor places with proper waitstaff, because they're more comfortable sitting at a table and having food brought to them than they are waiting in line and bussing their own trays. And what of working class people? They'll ruthlessly break each other's balls if one of their own kind is eating something too "fancy", and you know it.

Education can help bust some of this negative class stuff about food. It won't eliminate it, but it can help. I know people who work in programs like this. It's an uphill battle, but it's something.

>> No.9515701

>>9515627
>If the education you receive doesn't teach you otherwise this will be your normal.

So forcing them to eat better and cheaper does them a service. I'd just drastically cut back the food stamps and give out weekly food boxes.

Special variants for people who can do prep and cook, who can only nuke and for who can't heat anything at all (ie. no kitchen).

>> No.9515703

>>9515690
What do personal preferences about where you eat have anything to do with what your financial situation dictates?

I was raised upper middle class. I am used to, and I enjoy, eating out at nice restaurants. I don't give a shit about having to bus my own tray or not (I would gladly do so), I just like the better food. That said, I don't make anywhere near enough money to afford blasting it off eating out every day, so I learned to cook for myself.

In fact, my motivation was purely selfish. I was in college, wishing I had enough money for more recreational expenses. I was reviewing my budget and I thought to myself: Damn, I spend a lot of money on fast food. And frankly the food sucks. So I started doing simple shit like buying jarred pasta sauce and a box of pasta, or buying deli meats & making sandwiches. The whole point was to free up money for silly recreational expenses (modding my car, weed, booze, etc.)

>> No.9515725

>>9515490
Anon has a point.
My mother had $200 a month to feed a family of four. We weren't on welfare, and we actually ate rather decently. We just stretched out meals with grains and pasta.

>> No.9515727

>>9515701
>I'd just drastically cut back the food stamps and give out weekly food boxes.
My question is your motivation for this. Trying to add stigma to being poor because you are not poor and the idea of poor people getting something for nothing rankles you is a shitty place to be coming from when the purpose of a program is to help people. I like the food boxes idea, because a lot of the markets in places where poor people live don't even stock much in the way of fresh food, so it isn't even an option for them. But being spiteful toward the lower socioeconomic classes when you were lucky enough not to be born into them strikes me as incredibly petty and mean spirited.

>> No.9515730

>>9515727
Who is "trying to add stigma" to anything? How is getting a "Food box" any more stigmatizing than getting an EBT card?

I cannot fathom how you are leaping from the idea of trying to reduce the abuse of a system and making it more efficient to "adding stigma to people". One has nothing to do with the other.

>> No.9515735

>>9513996
With single payer health insurance, their nutrition problems are in you, dumbass. You pay for Tyrone's candy and soda, his future incarceration, and every health problem he'll ever have.

And he'll still yell at you to give him reparations for slavery.

>> No.9515739

>>9515676
Military here. Yeah, anon has the number wrong, but it actually varies between each MRE. Some are around 1.3k. I've seen a few that added up to 2k. But the ones for light infantry and scouts walking 20 miles in gear every day, I wouldn't be surprised at 3k. Funny thing, the vegetarian ones have more, and they have better desserts like the pound cake that people fight over.
I actually hold on to the ones they give us to eat at the firing range, just in case.

>> No.9515740

>>9515730
Because an EBT card looks like a credit card and lets you shop and pick out your own food like anyone else. Getting most or all of your food through a specific pre-selected box where if anyone sees it, they'll know you are poor and on benefits screams of being treated like a child having a parent pack their lunch.

>> No.9515750

>>9515739
University researcher who worked on MRE projects for years here.

The highest I've ever seen was about 1500, but I started working on the program around 2005 and I stopped around 2012 so there certainly could have been some that were higher before or after that. But I know well that 1300 was average during the aforementioned time period.

There were different meals known by other names than MREs which might have had a different caloric content. I know there was the "first strike ration", UGRs, and the "humanitarian aid" meals. Probably others too. I didn't work on those so I'm not sure what their caloric values were but I know damn well the normal MRE was nowhere near 3k.

>> No.9515754

>>9515740
Everyone sees the EBT card, anon.
And everyone knows when the cashier has to tell the person involved that no, they can't buy beer on EBT.

Besides, how did you conclude that "adding stigma" was the goal here? Even if it were to happen it would be a perfectly reasonable side effect from making the system more efficient and less prone to abuse.

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>>9515750
Yeah, the humanitarian daily ration has at least 2200 calories for example. It's also closer to what I think should be distributed to poor people over MREs if they were really going that route.

>> No.9515956

>>9515735
Except most of these aren't even tyrone and instead the landwhales that plow through my checkout lane on their fatscooters knocking over all the displays. I don't care that I'm paying for them either, because of the number of people who legitimately benefit from it, regardless of if their name is Tyrone or if they are a landwhale. Some people need legitimate help, and we are in a country where we help people who need it. There are and always will be undesirables, but it is well worth it in the long run. If you don't like the current system then go ahead and vote. For someone who will actually change things, and for the laws surrounding it. Just please stop shitting up a food and cooking board with an off-topic thread and remember to sage when replying.

>> No.9515966

>>9515956
Fuck I feel dumb, I forgot to sage after that rant kek

PLEASE REMEMBER TO SAGE OFF-TOPIC THREADS, THIS GOES 2 TIMES FOR MYSELF.

>> No.9516373

>>9515611
Lol, no. You're just wrong. You're of the San Francisco mindset of paying criminals not to commit crimes. Then when you run out of money, they threaten you with crimes far worse than burglary.

And no, here in Texas I don't need to sleep in shifts. If someone lifts my window, I can shoot them fucking dead.

>> No.9516378

>>9515666
Sure is fraud, and fast food most certainly can be purchased with EBT. Fast food places now openly post signs exhibiting "NOW ACCEPTING EBT". Same with liquor stores that sell candy bars, cigs, and booze. EBT isn't meant for any of that.

>> No.9516388

>>9515676
>>9515739
I should have clarified, MRE day packs of 3 meals are often 3k+ calories, I didn't mean to imply each meal is 3k.

>> No.9516392

>>9516373
Sage it you stupid fuck. This thread clearly does not belong on a food and cooking board. Anyone who replies after this point without saging should be rightfully called a dumb fuck, including me for not saging earlier.

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>>9516397

>> No.9516414

>>9516397
then report that store and dont bump the off topic thread you dumb fuck, they are disobeying ebt rules and will be punished for it

>> No.9516419

>>9516388
>MRE day packs of 3 meals
Never heard of such a thing.
MREs are individually packed. The individual menus come in cardboard boxes. The boxes come in two types, labeled "A" and "B". One A box plus one B box gives you 1 of each menu.

>>9516392
Speaking of stupid fucks, are you aware that sage doesn't work on this board?

>> No.9516453

>>9516419
>type sage in options field
>thread doesnt bump

Are you retarded or just pretending?

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>>9516419
MRE's are often in full day packs. They however often distributed in single meals to army grunts because they're stupid.

>> No.9516700

>>9516378
I'm fairly certain that's a state issue, because SNAP programs vary a lot, including how well rules are enforced. But its definitely not a nationwide thing.

>> No.9516742

>>9516397
Okay, in this one you can clearly see pringles and slim jims in the shot. The store obviously sells food items that are acceptable, that doesn't mean people are buying beer on EBT.

>>9516406
This one was taken in a state that has a restaurant meals program (California, Arizona, Florida, Hawaii, Michian, or Rhode Island at the moment), that allows certain qualified EBT recipients to purchase hot food in limited restaurants, not just anyone on food stamps. It varies, but typically you have to be homeless, elderly, and/or disabled to qualify.

>> No.9517777

>>9516397
>tfw you will never buy cheap shitty beer with taxpayer money

fml

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>>9511693

I used to work as a cashier and I'll tell you right now that this image is both correct and retarded. Having free money to spend on food is easily really helpful but the same people that use EBT live in awful conditions and have a ton of kids.

EBT does buy a lot of food, but the people who buy with EBT tend to go to the grocery store on a term basis that allows them to buy the things they need for the week. I think it's really disgusting that people actually cry about poor people buying food for their weekly lives when the alternative is some dystopian universe shit. If you work a minimum wage job and you can't afford groceries, GUESS WHAT, you can get help getting groceries, be it through EBT or fucking food banks.

If you live in the united states and you're hungry you have options and I think it's disgusting that people in the working and middle class will outright cry about how unfair it is for people to feed themselves through government assistance. For a country that's underlying values are judeo-christian it has a really lax sense of charity, and an even worse value for human lives. I'm sure you faggots probably pay less that a quarter of your annual wages in taxes and you think this quarter goes to "HI I AM JUAN AND I AM NEW IN DIEES COUNTRY PLS GIV FOOD".

>> No.9517872

>>9516516
American MREs arent 24 hour rations unless youre talking about a first strike ration.
I happen to be an expert on this subject.

>> No.9517881

>>9517840
SNAP costs the average American $200 annually. That's 60 cents a day.

It's amazing how grinchy people can be.

>> No.9517885

>>9517840
Your job would go away without food stamps of course you support the program. Why should people on food stamps eat better than those who pay for them?

>> No.9517886

>>9517881
Yeah, but I could spend that kind of money on two dragon dildos, and a jumbo bottle of lube.

>> No.9517893

>>9515727
>Trying to add stigma to being poor because you are not poor

I'm not adding stigma ... I am taking away luxury. If they cared about how society perceived them most of them wouldn't be on welfare in the first place, stigma is a non issue.

Also I I failed at life and work minimum wage in a country with near infinite possibility, I hate the rich and those poorer than me alike because I project my self hatred.

That's not why I want to take away luxury from welfare though. It's a matter of fairness, the original poor houses were created with the mindset that the welfare takers should live worse than the poorest self sufficient labourers. That sentiment is as valid today as it ever was. Government should create the conditions for full employment, with workfare if necessary, those who chose not to work regardless will have to give up luxuries in return. You still get a lot more free time.

Also you should be happy with a food box, it's fucking charity.

>> No.9517897

>>9511693
Junk food is cheaper, and lasts longer.

I don't really give a shit, because as a responsible human being I don't give a fuck about petty shit like what is in someone else's shopping cart.

>> No.9517899

>>9513535

bullshit. I know a family who makes good money and gets 700 a month with two kids. I know people who get over 1200 a month. It's an obscene waste of money and exists to allow the parasite class to exist.

>> No.9517908

>>9517886
Fair enough.

No more SNAP, kids. No more ramen for little Wing Wang, no more latkes for little Mordecai.

>> No.9517915

>>9517881
How about instead of jamal and te'niqua'shan having kids they can't afford, I keep _my_ $200 and they can fuck right off.

Yeah it might be $200 per tax payer, but consider how many tens of millions of tax payers there are.

>> No.9517918

>>9513262
t. mayate
You pavement apes are the first to go when he retake Aztlan

>> No.9517919

Cost of food stamps $75 billion
Number of Americans not on food stamps 250 million
Cost for a working family of 4, $1,333 per year
Benefit for a non working family of 4, $7,680 (tax free)

$9000 per year transferred from one to the other

>> No.9517926

>>9517881
>another $200 for their housing
>another $200 for their health care
>another $200 for their bus pass
>another $200 for their obama phone
>another $200 to keep the worst ones in jail
>another $200 fo' dem programs

Enough 60 cents per day and we're talking real money

>> No.9517935

>>9517881
It's grinchy to be upset that someone stole 10 thousand dollars from you? (50 years working)

>> No.9517936

>>9517885

I don't work in a grocery store anymore, I'm in the Navy. People who eat WORSE than people who use food stamps are ELIGIBLE for food stamps. Like I said, if you are struggling to come up with weekly groceries, see about your eligibility to assistance and if you aren't eligible then you can use a food bank or other programs that are avileable.

You live in one of the greatest countries in the world, and one of the reasons it's the greatest is because we care for the people who don't have enough or can't provide for their own. Poverty is an issue in the country but we can be proud to say starvation isn't, at least we care enough to feed the people who have no recourse besides government help.

>> No.9517946

>>9517936
It isn't about preventing people from starving; it's about the fact that poor people get to live in luxury at the expense of the people pinching pennies and eating cheap food. Food stamps pay out steak and lobster when it should be rice and beans.

>> No.9517948

>>9517936
If you are nearing failure, and always have a safety net, you have no incentive to succeed. Welfare is ultimately a terrible thing for the hungry and poor.

>> No.9517955

>>9517926
Well, you're up to $3.60, anything else you want to pull out of your ass?

>> No.9517960

>>9511693
>be me
>used to get foodstamps when neet life
>buy the same food i buy now with my lodes e mone

LOOK AT ALL THESE FUCKS i give

>> No.9517969
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looks like a whole lot of wagie ragie in here today, maybe use some of that "hard earned cash" to buy some chill pills

>> No.9517971

>>9511693
>Does it enrage you
short answer: yes
long answer: fucking niggers

>> No.9517976

>>9517955
You want to reimburse him for the $1300 it cost him last year?

>> No.9517980

>>9515573
>It has to do with never learning how not to be poor.
This, guy I used to work with would always bitch about how broke he was despite making 90% what I did until I started getting my raises.
>he would eat out for lunch literally every single day
>not a single time in a year did I ever see him bring a lunch
>spent a bunch of money on weed all the time and would toke at work
>a couple conversations we had makes me think he very rarely cooked at home for dinner too
>"haha yeah, the deli at this supermarket will sell you a steak AND cook it for you for $6! You can't beat that kind of price, you know?"
>probably spent another $4-5 dollars on sides and drink as well
>drove a literal shitbox, like the kind you find on Craigslist for $500

Like, I get he had a kid to pay child support on, but for our income that couldn't have been more than $2-300 a month. That's what I spend on my car payment, I'm assuming he had his car paid off. After all my expenses I still had $500/month left over for whatever the fuck I wanted.

As for the relevant part, he was born and raised in West Virginia and claimed he was part of the McCoy family so I'm sure his parents were affluent, contributing citizens of their local community.

>> No.9517981

>>9517955
Thats 2 starbucks coffees a day. If anyone knew you bought 2 starbucks a day, they'd call you an idiot with money.

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>>9513057
>be white
>have a job
Oh, shit you make too much! No welfare or EBT for you!
>have bills
>now have to spend like a Jew to stretch out dollar

>> No.9517985

>>9517946
>Food stamps pay out steak and lobster
Yeah I saw that same story too! About that guy who used food stamps on steak and lobster and made the news just to promote his band. He really had us going. Fortunately we wised up and moved on, instead of crawling into a self-serving political narrative. Because that would be pretty awks.

>> No.9517993

>>9517946

Do you sincerely think that a stipend for groceries is enough to buy you smoked salmon and foie gras? It's just a supplement for people to buy weekly groceries that you and I would buy. I grew up in a household where everything was home cooked and in my experience the biggest issue with people who use EBT is that they don't buy ingredients but microwaveable meals, which are obviously unhealthier and less cost effective. I think people who use EBT and even normal people should learn to cook for themselves. Luxury is just not the case. I'm sorry if you're eating lentils every day of the month, but if it's really come to that then you probably qualify for assistance.

>>9517948

So cut HUD, food stamps, public education, scholarships, work for welfare, and all of a sudden BOOT STRAPS.

Shut your fucking asshole you dumb ass nigger. You've literally never been poor in your life. My dad became a US citizen in 1980 and he constantly bashes on people who get government assistance. This dumb mother fucker went to a public school and lives with his mom and dad until he was 30 AND EVEN THEN HIS HE WAS STARVING. He literally talks about how shitty people are for taking advantage of government programs and how it affects the image of immigrants now but his life at the time was severely affected by his inability to grow as a human being because he was a teenager who had to have a full time job to provide for himself and his family.

Government assistance like EBT and welfare aren't terrible for people who are hungry and poor because the people who tend to need assiatance the most are the hungry and poor, and even then people who are riding that fine line. Nobody wants to get handouts, I'm sure everyone who is on welfare would much rather be in your shoes but it doesn't make the strife of day to day life any less negligible simply because you think the stigma and the stereotype are evidence enough of a human beings failure to survive.

>> No.9518005

>>9517985
I know people who get 1200 dollars a month. You can feed a family steak every day with that much money. you're a retarded person.

>> No.9518008

>>9517993
>You've literally never been poor in your life.
I have, its why i work and save so much to prevent being poor ever again.

Your anecdote story of your dad pulling himself up by the bootstraps shows how anyone without the safety net has an incentive to work had to prevent being poor and hungry. Did you realize you just proved my point by typing all that out?

>> No.9518011

>>9518005
Spoken like a true shitstain who has never paid a single fucking bill in his insignificant ass life.

>> No.9518013

>>9517955
That's actually $4.20 if you count the food stamps. $1,533 over the course of a year. 2q2017 median weekly earnings in the US are $859. Yes of course I made up the numbers but my point is the average person is working somewhere between 1 and 2 weeks a year to support leeches who contribute nothing to society.

>> No.9518014

>>9517993
It SHOULD be a supplement, but it isn't. the current rate has families on it eating better than the families who pay for it. How can you not see the issue in that?

>> No.9518017

>>9518011
Stop projecting. 1200 dollars is absurd and you know it. The program should be a reasonable amount of money or something similar to WIC.

>> No.9518025

>>9518013
hey at least they are having the kids your white ass is too busy to have

>> No.9518029

>>9518005
>I know people who get 1200 dollars a month.
With what, eight kids to feed?

>> No.9518031

>>9518008

My dad is still poor and now he's a retard because he didn't have the opportunity to grow up because he's been working his entire life.

Giving someone a hand up in life doesn't make them susceptible to the idea that there will always be someone there to prop them up, it gives them a chance to move up on their own. The best thing you can do if you're poor is the effectively change your position in life but that means not having to worry about where your next meal is going to come from.

>> No.9518033

>>9518017
>Stop projecting.
You are legit retarded if you think that's how money works. Where the fuck do you live that you can pay bills and necessities and still eat steak every day for $1,200 a month, you pathetic mongoloid?

>> No.9518035

>>9518005
>1200 dollars a month
That's a minimum family size of nine, anon. Nine people eat a fuckton of food.

>> No.9518038

>>9515455
as if you pay enough taxes that more than a dollar is going to tyrone

>> No.9518039

>>9518025
Shouldn't you be posting interracial porn on /pol/?

>> No.9518044

>>9518013
>That's actually $4.20 if
>Yes of course I made up the numbers
Why do you talk

>leeches who contribute nothing to society
Lot of folks who qualify for SNAP already multiple jobs that don't pay a living wage. You do realize you groceries are stocked and bagged by human beings, right?

>> No.9518046

>>9518033
the 1200 dollars is for food alone, it's what they receive in EBT. EBT is a government program used to buy food at a store, not pay bills.

??????????

>> No.9518051

>>9518031
>My dad is still poor and now he's a retard because he didn't have the opportunity to grow up because he's been working his entire life.

If only he had dat money fo dem programs then he'd have extra cash to buy ipods, nikes, rimz, grillz, weed, and get to travel to europe for cultural experience.

Your dad's experience isn't uncommon; first generation works hard, especially with zero education and minimal work. 2nd generation (you) has computers, money, education, a car, and an opportunity to grow up. See first generation asians, they just worked, and if they saved enough owned a small business working 100 hours a week. Their kids went to medical school or accounting or law whatever where they still work a lot but make 10-50x the money their parents did. Thats all without welfare and snap or whatever.

Your dad had shame as well as self-esteem, he didn't want hand outs because of pride. leeches, niggers, and otherwise useless people are content with taking handouts, their kids are content with handouts, and their kids are content with handouts all while complaining whitey is keeping them down and the rich have too much money.

You are simply wrong about how welfare works.

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>>9518046
Shit. Misunderstood as $1,200 from job.

>> No.9518063

>>9518035
Where are you getting those numbers? Family of 4 I know just signed up last month and gets 700.

>> No.9518068

>>9518013
>leeches
Actually if you're an able-bodied non-elderly adult with no dependents, you can only stay on food stamps for 3 months out of any 3 years with no job.

>> No.9518070

>>9518059
Don't worry. He's evading another anon pointing out only a 9-child family could qualify for his cherry-picked $1200 a month anecdote.

>> No.9518080

>>9518063
https://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/eligibility

>> No.9518081

>>9518070
That's not true. My uncle's job involves asking people what benefits they receive and the 1200 number is not from a family with many kids. He says there are plenty of people getting a lot of money like that and it seems fairly arbitrary. He's a bleeding heart liberal too in case you want to ignore the post with a strawman.

>> No.9518091

>>9518081
Anon if a family of <9 is getting $1200/m in EBT/SNAP alone, they're committing fraud somehow.

>> No.9518096

>>9518044
Only limp wristed faggots use terms like "living wage". Kicking out all the illegal aliens will go a long way towards raising wages for unskilled workers.

>> No.9518098

>>9518081
Then some kind of fraud or misunderstanding is going on because that's exceeding the max payout a small family can get.

>> No.9518101

>>9518098
These are the same people who claim the same kid on multiple income tax returns and register dead people to vote. Of course their is fraud.

>> No.9518105

>>9518101
Well then, isn't the fraud the issue instead of the whole program?

>> No.9518111

>>9518105
those kids should starve and you fucking know it

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>>9518105
I'd say the intended population is the problem

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>>9518105
>it's the program not the people

>> No.9518121

>>9518101
>These are the same people who ... and register dead people to vote
>larping this hard

>> No.9518127

>>9518121
Are you seriously implying that shit doesn't happen?

>> No.9518152

>>9518068
15% of all SNAP cases are exempted for all states, some states get exempted all together.

>> No.9518163

Disabled poorfag here.

Nothing drives me more insane than lazy fuckers mooching programs like EBT. I get wanting to grab some soda or some candy on the side, but people who just buy nothing but junk and get sicker make it harder for those of us who actually need this shit to be taken seriously.

Fuck.

>> No.9518171

>>9513552
Buying from grocery store is actually >>9513623
This is pretty much the state of disability recipients as well.

>> No.9518172

>>9518163
yeah, it's all those other layabouts who are the problem

>> No.9518174

>>9515611
>paying out of pocket out of possible security risk.

Or you can invest in home security and firearms. It's not my Fucking problem that Tyrone is a genetic reject and needs to pilfer to thrive, Shit like that is why the castle doctrine gained popularity.
And how the fuck is he short sighted when you are basically explaining away welfare queens as necessary protection money?

>I lived in a poor area once
Me too, which makes your shitty argument all the more laughable.

>> No.9518179

>>9517840
Nobody's crying about people getting free food.
It's people rightfully pissed off that people are abusing the system to buy junk, and then whining they sick or some shit and can't work.

Nobody sane's going to complain about a single mother who lost their husband using EBT.

People have every right to complain about somebody with 7 kids not closing their legs buying nothing but chips/pop and other garbage on it.

>> No.9518182

>>9518172
Fuckin Sha'quiesha can stop popping kids out of their cunt, or they can catch meningitis.

PS: Get hit by a truck, anon. Then you can comment on layabouts.

>> No.9518190

>>9518182
well you certainly don't need to spend any of my money on salt

>> No.9518192

>not using your EBT exclusively on San Pellegrino

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>>9518190
I laughed

>> No.9518212

>>9517872
He's saying the boxes MREs come in often have more than just once Individual meal per box,which is correct.

>> No.9518229

>>9518051

SO KEEP GRINDIN FOR DEM GAINZ. Shame and self-esteem aren't gained by having to work when you're a child. I've met 13 year olds who have to work with fake documents to send money back to their home country instead of going to school, and guess what, THEY STILL GET GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE. Being poor now and being poor in the 80s is incredibly different. I challenge you to live within the means of a poor person from the 80s and manage to grow business.

You're living a pipe dream if you think poverty is a sincere form of encouragment to better yourselves. If that were the case then why don't the majority of poor people ever pull out of their poverty? Because MUH PROGRAMZ is just too comfy? Being poor isn't comfortable and neither is having to work a shitty job and still not coming up with enough money to provide for yourself in your family.

So how does welfare work? The rich Nike wearing urBAN minoroty walks into the welfare office slaps his dick onto to welfare office desk and goes LEMEE ASKYU SUMMIN HOW BOUT DEM MONIES FOR DEM LOBSTAS.

>> No.9518245

>tfw no food assistance in Canada

>> No.9518246

>>9518011
>I don't have an argument so I'll insult You

>> No.9518247

>>9518229
You're saying living poor is hard. I submit that it isn't impossible. Why is it my responsibility to make others lives easier to live?

And yes, most welfare recipients are just lazy and content receiving their free food, phones, housing, other handouts. Yes, most.

>> No.9518260

>>9518229
>because MUH PROGRAMS is just too comfy.

That's exactly why most stay poor. That and having no Fucking clue how to save a dime when they get a bit of money.

Let me put it this way, if you're a lazy cunt would you rather bust your Ass at a slight chance to better yourself and your family, or stay of food stamps and buy pitted shit to entertain yourself?

One is slow and profitable and the other is instant gratification. For someone who has no plans for the future, why wait tomorrow when you can enjoy today?

>> No.9518263

>>9515646
Right, like abstinence education.

>> No.9518279

>>9518192
Don't forget the premade avocado toast

>> No.9518294

>>9518013
From 2006-2008 I was on SNAP because my (ex)wife abandoned me and our special-needs son because she found a junkie on Facebook to fuck (who, incidentally, had another kid with her and she abandoned both of them too). But anyway, I lost my job because I had no car. We had no money. She stole everything small and valuable when she left. I couldn't even afford to initiate a divorce for 1.5 years. There was a 4 year uphill battle after that, and thanks to SNAP, I now live in middle Tennessee in a nice house with a nice car with my son.

SNAP paid ~$200 a month for food for 2 people, plus medicaid. When I called to cancel our SNAP, the woman at DHS laughed at me because because apparently the concept of someone voluntarily getting off the program was unheard of.

Thank everyone here who pays taxes and helped me get my family back on its feet. But, having been a cashier for 2 years as a teen, I strongly believe that the people who actually NEED food stamps are viciously outnumbered by wastes of space and the program needs a serious overhaul. I suggest converting it to a series of warehouses and delivery trucks that supply food the government chooses. One way or another, the government should be making the choice of food. They could make quite a few jobs by manufacturing/packaging it themselves. You'd only need about 30 different items, tops.

>> No.9518305

>>9518294
>I suggest converting it to a series of warehouses and delivery trucks that supply food the government chooses
Blue apron and USPS already exist though.
>but blue apron and MREs are expensive!
So is government waste, but the fact is the framework is already there.

>> No.9518308

>>9518246
>being so sensitive that I can't see the argument through my tears
Get off 4chan, faggot.

>> No.9518313

>>9518294
Please tell me she's forced to pay child support.

>> No.9518332

>>9518313
She paid on and off. Mostly off. She got called into court 3 times for non-payment. Right now, her parents actually pay the child support for her just to keep her out of jail. I only hear from her once a year. I don't know what exactly she's doing. But, it's nothing constructive.

>> No.9518336

>>9518332
kind of off topic, but is your kid normalish for his age or can you see the fuck up in him shine through?

>> No.9518351

>>9518336
I think you missed the "special needs son" part of his post.

>> No.9518354

>>9518336
He has level 2 autism (can't even string a sentence together at 13 years old) so he's just been shutdown this whole time. He doesn't even know he's supposed to have a mother. So there's definitely a lot of fuck-up shining through, but not because of her leaving. That's just how he rolls.

>> No.9518359

>>9518351
I surely did
>>9518354
I see, fair enough, hope things work out as well as they can

>> No.9518366

>>9518359
Thanks for the well-wishes. We do alright these days. Can't really complain.

>> No.9518413

>>9518308
Nah m8,eat my dick.
If your gonna voice your shit opinion, you better be able to back it up and not just sling insults because you're too Fucking ignorant to counter a point without spending out.

>> No.9518433

>>9518260

People who get EBT or welfare generally work and use government programs to supplement their income or food spending. When I worked in a grocery store the people who worked there bought groceries with EBT. These were people who worked shitty jobs all of their lives or through some circumstance were unlucky enough to qualify for assistance. The myth of welfare queens is seriously so fucking asinine when you get to know people who rely on government assistance while maintaining full time jobs. And yes people do take advantage of government programs but it's not to the extent that people who rely on them should feel a sense of shame because they need help making sure they have enough food to eat or they're able to buy simple home goods or say to say needs without being homeless.

>> No.9518931

>>9518413
>I'm too retarded and sensitive to see the argument
>cry about insults to pretend there is no argument
>insult him without an argument to show what arguing is about
What a nigger. KYS

>> No.9518945

>>9518433
I dare you to move to ghetto neighborhoods, changing up every year or so. You'll retract that statement real quick once your not in a comfy environment, hiding from the facts that are plainly visible. I know various shitskins who have kids from different bitches, married to none with multiple cars, actual jobs, and expensive shit all because they get government AID. One of them has a charger, some new truck, 2 motorcycles, and 2 apartments to put this into perspective. He's probably selling drugs on top of this shit desu. He also pays child support. How the fuck is this possible? Because Uncle Sam loves taking from the struggling white man and giving to the cheating nigger.

>> No.9518991

>>9511693
How's about getting your hard-earned government taxes back in the form of food stamps?

Besides, I can't pay for school and rent and other bills out of pocket + starve.

>> No.9519000

>>9513564
>muh pride maymay

If being on food stamps was so awesome, the people who are angry about food stamps would be on them. But they know better, deep down inside.