/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.9507851]

>jalapenos have become too mild
>habaneros still too hot

How the fuck do I train my spiciness tolerance now?

[Anonymous No.9507852]

>>9507851
Try datil peppers.

[Anonymous No.9507859]

stop being a pussy

[Anonymous No.9507862]

eat spicier jalapenos, look for jalapenos with grey lines in them, they are spicier

[Anonymous No.9507864]

>>9507852

Can't get them in Estonia.

>>9507859

I have to run cold water on my tongue for a good 30 seconds before I can take another tiny bite. If that's not an indication that I'm not ready for it then I don't know what is.

[Anonymous No.9507870]

Remember: if you have to train yourself to like it, it isn't actually good!

[Anonymous No.9507876]

>>9507870

I like the jalapeno's sourish flavor now that I don't feel the spiciness too much. Same with tabasco sauce.

Now I want to taste the habanero fruitiness.

[Anonymous No.9507878]

Serrano peppers

[Anonymous No.9507894]

Why do people obsess over spicy food so much?
All it will do is desensitize you and other people will not be able to eat the same food you eat.

[Anonymous No.9507928]

>>9507864
Water does fuck all to git rid of the capsaicin. Milk does the job quicker and better.
>tfw blessed with high spice tolerance
>can beat all those mall hot sauce shop challenges no sweat despite rarely eating aything spicier than jalapenos

[Anonymous No.9507942]

>>9507878
Agreed, Serrano or Savina peppers are a good in between step. Both have a great flavor as well.

[Anonymous No.9508076]

>7 p.m.
>eat dried ghost pepper
>shake uncontrollably for 20 minutes
>can't open eyes because of spicy tears
>can't talk or hear or think
>drool like cerebral palsy having a fit
>come back to normal for 30 minutes
>suddenly stomach feels like hardened cement
>sharp pain in abdomen every few minutes
>lie down in bed in fetal position
>whygod.mkv
>don't know whether I'll shit or vomit
>stay awake till 5 a.m.
>wonder how my anus is going to be eye of sauron
>doesn't
>decide to stop being a retard
>doesn't
>order carolina reaper
>eat 1/3 of pepper
>same effect as entire ghost pepper
>feels like frying on electric chair
>have stomach ache for entire night
>next day excrete such burning noxious bile of acidic pepper infested shit that I fear my ass tissue burned off

It was fun though.

[Anonymous No.9508091]

>tfw you've maxed out the spiciness of hot sauces you can get easily from a supermarket
You can't really get anything hotter than scotch bonnets from a store
I need to start ordering ghost pepper shit online kms
Also, does anyone else get hiccups from jalapenos? I don't think I get hiccups from any other kind of spice. Is there some other chemical irritant besides capsaicin in jalapenos that other peppers don't have?

[Anonymous No.9508201]

>>9507851
Hungarian Wax Peppers

They also have a much better flavor than either jalapeno or habanero. You need to get the fully ripe ones, otherwise, they won't be hotter than a fully ripe jalapeno. They top out at like 10k SVU. If you need hotter, try ceyanne pepper instead. Though, I don't like its flavor all that much.

>>9507876
I find that habanero have a terrible taste. Trinidad Moruga scorpion peppers have a super fruity flavor. I think Hungarian wax peppers are a perfect flavor of "pepper" flavor.

>>9508076
I found that when I ate one of my TM scorpion peppers that I could feel it where ever it was in my digestive system as a hot burn. It never stopped burning where ever it was. It was a highly unique experience being able to trace its location through my digestive system. Like one of those interactive learning kits for children, but I was the cartoon guy in the image with his intestines all exposed. The closer it got the end the more I worried. It was like knowing you have a root canal in an hour (pic related).

[Anonymous No.9508390]

>>9507870
But you have to learn to like everything that isn't plain, sugary, fatty, or starchy ie: literally a child's palate.
Coffee, alcohol, anything spicy, anything bitter, most vegetables, most meat that isn't chicken, anything that smells strongly, etc.

[Anonymous No.9509370]

>>9507851

Add chilis to your cooking until the desired level of spicyness is reached?

[Anonymous No.9509400]

>>9507851
>How the fuck do I train my spiciness tolerance

You man the fuck up and go straight to Ghost Peppers and Carolina Reapers.

>>9508076

This nigga here knows what's up

>I fear my ass tissue burned off

Iktfb

[Anonymous No.9509413]

>training yourself to eat spicy food
Kek, why esti why?? Spicy foods are for shitskins

[Anonymous No.9509419]

>>9509413
woops, forgot to attach this picture of me

[Anonymous No.9509442]

>>9507851
A nice middle ground between jalapeno and habanero is serrano. Still tastes like a jalapeno, but a little hotter. Doesn't have the kind of weird flavor of the habanero/Scotch Bonnet/ Reaper/Ghost peppers have, which (to me) only works well in specific Indian and West Indian (Caribbean) dishes.

[Anonymous No.9510885]

>>9507851

grow your own peppers. they will grow pretty much in any climate. just get some seeds online for cheap. it's fun too watching them grow, taking care of them, then getting to harvest your peppers and eat them at the end. you can grow smaller varieties in pots on a south facing windowsill or larger varieties in bigger pots outside.

If you do it this way you can pick a bunch of different varieties that have varying levels of heat, so you can grow a couple from each heat bracket.

pic related

[Anonymous No.9511506]

>>9507928
It's not about the water, but the temperature
If you supply cold fast enough (or, strictly speaking, remove heat fast enough) your neurons become too cold to fire and you don't feel pain

[Anonymous No.9511516]

>>9507894
>tfw mom no longer lets me spice the food when I visit my family

[Anonymous No.9511539]

>>9508390
>you have to train yourself to like things that will give you a heart attack or liver damage
really fires the neurons

[Anonymous No.9511547]

>>9507876
>I like the jalapeno's sourish flavor

disgusting, that's the worst part, same with tobasco

chili oil master race

[Anonymous No.9511561]

>>9511547
>tobasco
I see this a lot on here.
Is it a regional spelling?

[Anonymous No.9511575]

>>9507894
It only desensitizes you to heat, you can still taste everything else exactly the same. And just because you have high heat tolerance doesn't mean you can't enjoy things without heat. Like saying that developing a high tolerance for alcohol will make you not able to drink lemonade.

[Anonymous No.9511577]

>>9511561

[Anonymous No.9511580]

>>9508076
good thing is that peppers have absolutely zero effect on your actual body, it's literally all in the mind.

[Anonymous No.9511665]

>>9511580
I'm gonna call bullshit on this one. I've had a big order of chicken wings with habanero hot sauce on them and it literally felt like I was shitting fire. You're telling me I was just imagining that burning feeling in my asshole?

[Anonymous No.9511666]

>>9511580
is that why they can cause stomach ulcers

[Anonymous No.9511672]

>>9511665
>You're telling me I was just imagining that burning feeling in my asshole?

You weren't imagining it. Your nerves were reacting to the presence of casaicin, which is the chemical found in peppers that tastes "hot". But at the same time your asshole was not literally burnt.

[Anonymous No.9511678]

Isn't cayenne the next logical step? Why has no one mentioned it yet?

[Anonymous No.9511681]

>>9511575
Yeah but it makes it harder to cook for other people. What he said >>9511516

[Anonymous No.9511684]

>>9511681
>Yeah but it makes it harder to cook for other people
How so? I love my food spicy as hell but it's no effort whatsoever to dial it back when I'm cooking for other people.

[Anonymous No.9511686]

>>9511672
>Your nerves were reacting to the presence of casaicin
If this is your definition of "it's literally all in the mind" then it can be applied to every single physical feeling we can get
>getting shot in the arm doesn't really hurt, it's just in your mind!

[Anonymous No.9511690]

>>9507851
>habaneros still too hot

Get a pair of balls then start a new thread

[Anonymous No.9511694]

>>9511686
The difference is that when you get shot in the arm there actually is real damage there. The bullet will have torn skin and flesh, perhaps broken a bone. When you eat a hot pepper it FEELS hot, but there is no actual burning taking place.

A nerve mistaking caspsaicin for literal burning is the "all in your mind" part.

[Anonymous No.9511761]

>>9507859
and using pepe's.

[Anonymous No.9511799]

>>9511539
>most vegetables

[Anonymous No.9512608]

>>9511577
>>9511561
Is this seriously a fucking meme now?

[Anonymous No.9512646]

>>9507851
I usually just toss some habs into my cooking to season the meal, as the fats distribute the heat evenly.

If you want to eat them raw, dice or slice them and use them as a topping to your dish and serve it with some plain yogurt on the side, or cheese. Capsaicin bonds with fats, so having something cool and fatty, like milk, cheese or yogurt, on-hand will help take away some of the heat.

[Anonymous No.9512656]

>>9508201
You know that root canals aren't actually painful, right? Dental anesthetic works just as well for them as for ordinary fillings.

[Anonymous No.9512660]

>>9511580
>it's literally all in the mind.
Nope.

Your body reacts to capsaicin the same way it reacts to being burned.

[Anonymous No.9512673]

>>9507851
Thai peppers. Birds eye. Peri peri. Whatever your backward ass country calls em. About 100,000 shu whereas habaneros are 250,000 to 300,000

[Anonymous No.9512674]

>>9511506
Buddy, milk works much better the running cold water

[Anonymous No.9512684]

>>9512674
I find that just holding cold water in my mouth works. So, a sliver of ice is what I use if I pussy out.

>one time i tried using mint because of its cooling action

[Anonymous No.9512687]

>>9511694
Do you know what chemical burns mean?

[Anonymous No.9512689]

>>9509419
lol

[Anonymous No.9512693]

Jalapeños taste like grass. Habs are the goat, spicy and sweet.

[Anonymous No.9512720]

>>9512684
Rinse your mouth with alcohol-based mouthwash or cooking oil.

[Anonymous No.9512747]

>>9511666
No they can't. Probably what you're eating it on is causing it. Capascin does not harm your body in any way.

[Anonymous No.9512768]

>>9512660
So? Doesn't mean it's actually causing you any harm. It makes you breath heavy, sweat and releases endorphins, all good stuff. For some people eating wings is the most workout they get all week. Eating any amount of spice with any amount regularity causes absolutely zero harm to the body regardless of how you feel actually doing it.

[Anonymous No.9512783]

>>9512768
Do you actually understand what the phrase "all in your mind" means? It means there's no physical cause, not no physical damage.

[Anonymous No.9512798]

>>9512783
I suppose a more applicable phrase could have been used but I think it's obvious from context what I meant. Not that there's nothing in the chilli itself causing these sensations but that the sensations you're feeling aren't indicative of what's really happening, i.e. you're not actually on fire.

People use the phrase 'pain is all in the mind' as a rhetoric device all the time even when referring to pain caused by actual harm being done. In this case it's at least a little more applicable.

[Anonymous No.9512799]

>>9512768
Exposure to extreme amounts of capsaicin can dangerously increase your heart rate, inflame your respiratory tract, and swell your tongue posing a choking hazzard.

[Anonymous No.9512804]

>>9512799
How extreme are we talking here?

[Anonymous No.9512821]

>>9507864
>I have to run cold water on my tongue for a good 30 seconds before I can take another tiny bite. If that's not an indication that I'm not ready for it then I don't know what is.

It's just an indication that you're being a pussy. Take the heat a few times, it's good for you, think of it like working out. After a few attempts you will be able to stand it longer and longer.

[Anonymous No.9512824]

>>9507894
Pro: Roommates will not eat your leftovers.

[Anonymous No.9512850]

>>9512804
Depends on the individual. Some can be extremely sensitive to capsaicin, while some don't even react to it at all.

Interestingly enough, birds are not sensitive to capsaicin.

[Anonymous No.9512851]

>>9512799
t. albino

[Anonymous No.9512860]

>>9512850
Well birds couldn't be sensitive to capsaicin or they wouldn't be able to eat the peppers and disperse the seeds, which is why peppers exist in the first place.

[Anonymous No.9512879]

>>9512860
Could've been the other way around.

[Anonymous No.9512892]

>>9511761
Pepe's what?
Did you mean pepes by chance?

[Anonymous No.9512907]

>>9512879
Doubtful since birds in the rest of the world outside SA are also resistant to capsaicin and they obviously haven't evolved with peppers around. I think it's just a chemical that happens to be in peppers that birds aren't sensitive to so there was no evolutionary pressure for it to be bred out.

[Anonymous No.9512923]

>>9512850
>>9512860
Birds don't eat peppers, morons. I grow them in the south. I've seen turtles munching on low hanging peppers, but never a bird. Insects don't bug (sorry for the pun) them either (pic related, no chemical pesticides used).

[Anonymous No.9512926]

>>9512687
Chemical burns cause damage to the tissue that needs healing. Capsicum burn doesn't because it's not real damage, only tricking the nervous system to react like it was real damage.

[Anonymous No.9512943]

>>9512926
>hehe I bet you thought the swelling in your eyes from touching them after cutting hot peppers was real but it turns out it's not hehe
Can you just fuck off already? You worded your first post extremely poorly and are still trying to defend your nonexistent argument.
Capsaicin can cause burns, swelling, inflammation, etc which is why you don't want to get it in your eyes or let it sit on your hands for a long period of time. It's not "all in your head" or "not real damage".

[Anonymous No.9512959]

>>9512923
>Birds don't eat peppers
Depends on the bird, dipshit.

Some birds stick with seed from grasses and shit and don't eat fruits. Others eat fruits and will indeed munch on peppers.

My local mocking bird LOVED the tiny red pequin peppers I used to grow, and he'd take a chomp out of the occasional bell pepper as well. Meanwhile, the local house finches and sparrows wouldn't touch them.

[Anonymous No.9512971]

>>9512943
He didn't make the first post I did. Did it ever occur to you that two or more people may be arguing the same point

>Capsaicin can cause burns, swelling, inflammation, etc
No it can't, at least not in any reasonable dosage. Chugging a can of pepperspray might cause some problems. Do you really think you can get "burns" through eating chilli? Or even swelling and inflammation (same thing)? Stop trying to make capsaicin a dangerous compound, it's not.

[Anonymous No.9512973]

>>9512923
Pic related: one of the little motherfuckers I was talking about.

[Anonymous No.9512976]

>>9512943
I bet you believe in flat earth too.

[Anonymous No.9512984]

>>9512923
>>9512973
Why do you think fruits such as peppers exist? To be eaten and have their seeds dispersed with fertilizer far and wide. In case of peppers birds are the main dispersal medium. The birds with no evolutionary memory of peppers may not eat them but others will.

[Anonymous No.9512999]

>>9512984
>To be eaten and have their seeds dispersed with fertilizer far and wide.
Mammals can accomplish this same task, and yet they tend to be sensitive to the capsaicin. Grapes, cherries, olives, apples, tomatoes, all have benefited from mammals spreading their seed, and yet pepper plants decided to be cunts and try to stop us from eating their delicious fruits.

[Anonymous No.9513003]

>>9507851
Get the Jalepenos from the mexican section. They're spicier then the ones from the pickled goods section. Otherwise, make sauces from habaneros that are a bit diluted, so that it's not the full level of spicy.

[Anonymous No.9513011]

>>9512973
Fuck mockingbirds.

[Anonymous No.9513040]

>>9512976
>>9512971
Both of you post a video of you chugging a bottle of pure capsaicin extract, and then using an additional bottle to rub into your eyes and asshole. After all, it won't cause any real damage and it's all in your head yeah?

[Anonymous No.9513054]

>>9512959
I forgot my pic of my tabasco pepper plant. You can clearly see there's no damage and I have at least 6 mockingbirds that live in my yard. I have noticed some damage on the lower hanging habaneros but that's definitely from turtles. You're fos.

[Anonymous No.9513059]

>>9512999
Because they figured out that mammals will generally drop seeds nearby, but birds will carry them far away.

[Anonymous No.9513064]

>>9513003
>the mexican section
is this what americans call the produce department?

[Anonymous No.9513070]

>>9512943
people get doused with pepper spray, and unless they have a heart condition or something, with no lasting effects

that's magnitudes more capcaisin exposure than eating a single fucking pepper, of any variety

[Anonymous No.9513078]

>>9513064
No, at a lot of grocery stores they have an international section that has goods imported from other countries. The pickled Jalapenos that come from Mexico are typically more spicy then the ones made in the US. Does your country not have a foreign foods sections?

[Anonymous No.9513095]

>>9513078
That was a joke about Mexican migrant farm labour but thanks.

[Anonymous No.9513111]

>>9513095
>Thinking Americans know anything about how their food is made.

[Anonymous No.9513125]

>>9513054
First, mockers are territorial little bastards. So you're not going to have 6 mockers trying to devour your plants, because they'll fight it out to determine who has control of the territory those plants are in. At most, you'll get the male who owns the territory, his mate that shares it, and the babies they raise in the spring and summer before they get kicked the fuck out by dad after they fledge.

Second, mockers have food preferences just like we do. I've fed my local dude everything from raisins, grapes, cherries, cantaloupe, pineapple, cherry tomato, and he pretty much eats whatever I put out. His mates, and the babies? Not so much. They're picky little shits, and they'll look at some stuff, put a bit in their beak, and spit it back out. Which is exactly what some of them did with my peppers, while the male would pull one off and swallow it whole.

Your local mocker just doesn't view your peppers as a valuable food source. Others just might, it all depends on the bird.

[Anonymous No.9513141]

>>9513059
>birds will carry them far away.
Not so much. Sure, birds fly off with seed, but most of their distribution technique involves them ripping apart the fruit right on the tree, spilling seed everywhere below the tree, and then moving on to the next fruit. They're messy little fuckers.

Mammals are more likely to move the seed out from below the area of the original plant.

[Anonymous No.9513151]

>>9513141
They eat the seed and then shit it out later.

[Anonymous No.9513890]

>>9511678
this

[Anonymous No.9514070]

Man up fag, you take that burn. A man is truly tested when he goes to the bathroom

[Anonymous No.9514096]

>>9513054
Very nice, you should peruse >>>/out/1110706 if you don't already. Where I live, humidity is a big problem, even for pepper plants and the isopods & slugs are usually the main problems.

[Anonymous No.9514119]

>>9512656
I've had a few of them. Most of the time, they do hurt. Evidently, the bacteria that causes the problem also interrupts the anesthetic's ability to fully numb the nerves. This doesn't happen all the time though. However, every root canal I've ever had caused pain. It is better described as electricity than pain, that is what it feels like. What doesn't hurt is pulling teeth. It is just a lot of pressure then suddenly nothing. The thing that hurts the most is the initial injections. Those can be mild or tear inducing. As the anesthetic wears off during a long session the "drill" will hurt quite a bit. But, while everything is numb, the bit with the largest teeth really sucks because it basically hammers your entire head.

I only know this because I have about $25k in dental work including a few gold teeth.

[Anonymous No.9514333]

>>9512747
Im sure i recall having read too much of either 3 items damage the stomach lining, these would be salt, chili peppers, alcohol that being said its a matter of abuse not just ordinary consuption

[Anonymous No.9515985]

>>9507870
I had to train your moms anus cuz my cocks that good.

[Anonymous No.9516578]

>>9507851
Serranos or thai chiles.

[Anonymous No.9516585]

Buy capsaicin extract, dilute to various strengths. Most quantifiable way to train if you feel like you need to do that.