ditching the check

[Anonymous No.9490082]

anyone do this? how often? do you leave the waiter a tip?

[Anonymous No.9490134]

>>9490082
Did it once when i was a kid, felt bad about it

[Anonymous No.9490147]

>>9490082
Never. Is it possible to wash dishes or something to work off your tab anymore or is that something they only did in old movies?

[Anonymous No.9490148]

>>9490147
i dont think anyone ever stops you, ,or if theyre even allowed to

[Anonymous No.9490160]

Yes but I don't leave tips for the druggies and I only do it in places I'm just visiting

[Anonymous No.9490166]

>>9490160
do you run or just walk out suavely

[Anonymous No.9490167]

I left without paying by accident once. Just forgot to pay. No one stopped me.

[Anonymous No.9490395]

>>9490082
When I was a server if somebody did this it came out of our pocket. Kinda shitty thing to do to somebody you don't know.

[Anonymous No.9490451]

I don't know if it's the same as ditching a check, but I've gone into motels dressed decently and carrying a brief case and casually eaten the free breakfast just like I was a guest. Never been questioned even once.

[Anonymous No.9490470]

>>9490395
>Kinda shitty thing to do to somebody you don't know.
I agree, your boss was an asshole, shouldn't make his workers pay for things that aren't their responsibility

[Anonymous No.9490474]

>>9490134
Same. I won't do it ever again.

[Anonymous No.9490501]

>>9490082
Can't do that now in most places in this area. You must pay before you eat, when you are ordering. That includes sit-down places too where a waitress takes your order. Evidently, skipping out on the bill became a big thing once out of state/out of country workers started arriving for their land rape jobs in oil & gas.

[Anonymous No.9490639]

>>9490501
where do u live

[Anonymous No.9490640]

All the time when poor service or food is presented.

These cucks need to learn that you can't stiff every customer.

[Anonymous No.9490660]

>>9490082
Only time I did was when the waiter took my card back to run it and I guess forgot to run it. He brought back my card without a receipt to sign. I didn't say anything and just left. I assume he took it back to the kitchen and got distracted and set it down somewhere. I was never billed for the meal.

[Anonymous No.9490670]

>>9490451
You life intrigues me anon

[Anonymous No.9490674]

>>9490470
know your place goy, the owner's money IS your responsibility

[Anonymous No.9490680]

>>9490501
let me guess, you have a lot of blacks there

[Anonymous No.9490802]

>>9490680
Very white redneck area, but when all the temp workers started showing up that started happening. Like 80% of the temp workers are black or Mexican it seems. Crime has fucking skyrocketed in only 2 years and keeps getting worse. I'm just glad this is temporary. None of them are staying, they rent for a few months then leave when the job moves.

[Anonymous No.9490806]

>>9490082
no, because I am a white flyover, so I have never needed to

[Anonymous No.9490935]

>>9490147
>>9490148
I think corporate wont go through the effort and liability to hire some poorfag for a few hours. Real talk you could probably own it up to the manager and come in the next day to pay it off or get your photo taken from security cams and get permabanned

[Anonymous No.9490940]

>>9490501
no its because of niggers

[Anonymous No.9491045]

i dont tip
it will eventually kill minimum wage and in some places already did

[Anonymous No.9491060]

>>9491045
you're a fucking retard and a pleb. I mean honestly if you are so poor that extra 20% on your food bill is going to break your bank or is something that gives you any sort of pause then your broke ass needs to stay home.

[Anonymous No.9491089]

I never bounced. The cook is doing his job and he needs to get paid. Most of the restaurant in my area are owned by the cook, so ditching the check would hurt them.

[Anonymous No.9491096]

>>9491060
The 20% part always seemed to be insanely high. Then again, I am not an American. If we tip here, we normally just round up to the next payable amount. 33.45 EUR would come out to 35.00 EUR, for example.

[Anonymous No.9491159]

>>9491060
it won't kill my bank you mong
tipping is harmful to waiters in a way that some shitty bourgouise owning the play will think its okay to underpay people working on agreement on order or whatever you ameritards call it and eventually will lead to extinction of minimum wage in food sector.

[Anonymous No.9491205]

>>9490082
Only once and I don't feel bad about it at all. The service was absolutely horrible. 20 minutes to take our order, dropped the food off which wasn't correct and never came back. We had to flag another waiter down to get drinks and silverware, They only brought drinks so we had to flag yet another waiter to get silverware. We waited a while after we were done and even tried to flag down another server to pay. No one wanted to take our money and we'd already been sitting a while so we just left.

[Anonymous No.9491210]

how long do you think you should wait before going back to a place after ditching? 12 months? (to do it again of course)

[Anonymous No.9491224]

>>9491210
Never go back desu. If you're going to do it, only do it somewhere you're visiting and never plan on returning.

[Anonymous No.9491243]

>>9491224
the risk is the fun part man. i run just for the shits

[Anonymous No.9491252]

>>9491060
Just because I can afford something doesn't make you entitled to my money

Most of us could afford to pay several hundred percent tip, but that doesn't mean we should

[Anonymous No.9491268]

>>9490082
I did it once by accident. They give people a card to keep track of your purchases. Waitress took my order and card, but ended up bringing the wrong order. Didn't give a fuck since I was hungry and just ate it. Then went to the counter and had coffe. Gave the cashier the card and a bill, didn't even listen for the price. Gave me a bunch of coins, only after leaving the restaurant I realize there are way too many large coins. Didn't do the math, but probably only paid for the coffe.

[Anonymous No.9491491]

>>9490082
The closest I came to this was when I was at a restaurant waiting for a bus that came once every 90 minutes. The waitress was literally just gossiping with a customer and she took fucking forever to get me my bill, when she decided to also take forever in taking my payment I just left a $20 for a $19.50 meal, she deserved the 50 cent tip for at least walking my order to the kitchen on time, if nothing else.

[Anonymous No.9491504]

>>9491252
No, you're just poor. Like those retards who think they're rich because they have a big screen TV and enjoy a bottle of Hennessy VS once every payday. "Could afford to" doesn't mean what you think it means, 20% is standard and the fact that you're willing to embarrass yourself in public to "save" 20% means your beliefs about your own socioeconomic status are wrong.

[Anonymous No.9491534]

>>9490395
Perfectly illegal too. Treble damages awarded. (

>what business expenses

[Anonymous No.9491550]

>>9490082
>7 years ago
>be 17 year old shitkid
>go with 5 or 6 friends to Denny's at 2am
>ordered a single cup of coffee among all of us
>tfw they have free refills
>a friend dared me to drink as many cups as I can
>ended up refilling 12 cups
>incomingcaffineoverdose.djvu
>waitress was pissed as fuck
>told us to fuck off and pay
>we didn't
>she threatened to call the cops on us
>we flipped her off and left
>went home and slept
>woke up 2 days later in a hospital
>sister told me that I didn't wake up the day after the Denny's run and got worried
>she checked up on me and found that apparently my breathing/heart stopped for a while and she called the ambulance
>mfw

[Anonymous No.9491564]

>>9491550
Better luck next time!

[Anonymous No.9491582]

>>9491060
do you tip people in McDonalds?

[Anonymous No.9491600]

>>9491504
>20% is standard
No it is not, 15-18% is standard
I am not going to throw away extra money just because of your feelings no matter how much disposable income I have. this tip creep is getting kind of annoying, every year you people are telling us that "actually you are supposed to tip even more than we told you last year, and more different types of workers too". 20% is a tip for great service, you are not entitled to it and no one deserves it by default

[Anonymous No.9491619]

>>9491600
> 15-18% is standard
You either live in a Mississippi Delta town, population less than 100, or you're out of touch.

In normal part of America, 20% has been non-controversially the default amount for at least 10 years.

It's also amusing how you have this little conversation in your head with the invisible waiter every time you wrestle with this concept. The person you need to worry about is your dining companion, they can't stand going out to eat with you.

But why am I telling you this. You haven't eaten with other people in as long as you can remember and you tell yourself it's because of the liberals, or something. The reality is people got sick of having to throw in extra to cover your bad tipping habits.

[Anonymous No.9491633]

>>9490082
I've been tempted due to badly prepared food and terrible service, but I am too much of a baby.

I'm a coward.

[Anonymous No.9491635]

>>9491619
I usually take 15% of the pretax bill and round up to the next dollar
It seems women usually tip a little more, but no man who doesn't work in the service industry defaults to 20% or higher, and not many women do either

[Anonymous No.9491636]

>>9491619
I live in a major city and 10% is the standard for good service. No one gives 20% unless they are feeling really generous. I usually only give 5% if it's not a teenager because I don't give a single fuck about someone older than me not being able to get a real job.

[Anonymous No.9491637]

>>9491619
This is some prime bait here. I actually almost thought that you legitimately believe what you're typing. You got the "entitled prick that works at Chili's part time" role down pat, you should be an actor honestly.

[Anonymous No.9491645]

>>9491550
>overdosed on caffeine from just 12 cups
Lad, try drinking one of each of those Java Monster things. You will wish for the good old days of coffee.

[Anonymous No.9491647]

>>9491635
>no man who doesn't work in the service industry defaults to 20% or higher, and not many women do either
I am a man, I work in the tech industry, and I default to 20%, so does everyone I know
>>9491636
Biloxi is not a major city
>>9491637
Do they have a Chili's in your town or do you have to drive a couple of hours to get to one?

[Anonymous No.9491653]

>>9491647
no one believes you

[Anonymous No.9491656]

>>9491653
"Everyone is a NEET just like me" is like, 2009-era 4chan arguing. Normies with jobs are the default here now. Just as 20% is the default tip amount. Do try to keep up, Cleetus.

[Anonymous No.9491660]

>>9491647
Hahaha keep going, this is good stuff. I think I'll copy and paste this into a notepad file so I can use them later. How about this one?
>If you can afford to eat out, you can afford to tip you fucking losers! Next time I see you in my restaurant I'm going to punch you square in the jaw. You'd better watch out, punks!
Or maybe we can start ramping up the percentage amount with every new thread? Like, you started with the 20%, maybe next time it'll be 25%, then 30%, then suddenly spike it up to 50%.
>If you can't afford an extra 75% tip on your food then you don't deserve to eat out at all!

[Anonymous No.9491665]

>>9491660
>threatening violence over a petty squabble
Not very convincing, that may pass as normal talk in Biloxi but here in the real world people don't actually do this.

Try "I will give you a dirty look", that's pretty much as far as things go in normal places, then people move on and forget about it because social standing in the community is not based on barbaric acts of machismo.

[Anonymous No.9491667]

>>9491656
I don't think you are NEET. I think your entire stance pretty obviously isn't what you actually believe or have experienced and you are just trying to troll

Also, the idea that NEET people time less is kinda funny. Its usually low class white people that tip the best if any demographic

[Anonymous No.9491673]

>>9491667
Ah yes classic, "if someone has a different opinion than me they must be trolling or insane". Literally flyoverland: the post.

[Anonymous No.9491674]

>>9491645
Oh yes keep pretending to be such a big tough man on the internet, I love big tough guys like you! More!

[Anonymous No.9491678]

>>9491667
>>9491656
NEET here. I usually tip whatever is left in my wallet after eating out depending on the quality of food and service. Sometimes it can be as much as 200%.

[Anonymous No.9491679]

>>9491619
wtf is with this forced jewish meme? tipping was dead the day business owners started stiffing their staff what they made in tips. it's a gratuity for good service, not something you're expected to shell out every time you leave the house.

[Anonymous No.9491687]

>>9491679
I am not Jewish, and I get the feeling you think that's some kind of insult. I know many Jews and their tipping habits are not much different from anyone else. Sure you get the elderly cantankerous Jews who think that a $1 tip on a $50 meal is ok, but that's an old people thing, not a Jew thing.

[Anonymous No.9491688]

>>9491673
Its not a matter of opinion. You are saying factually incorrect things

[Anonymous No.9491695]

>>9491619
Tipping in general is fucking retarded. I'm not your employer, I'm there to pay an agreed price for an agreed service. It's just an excuse so that the bosses can pay their staff sweet fuck all and foot some of the bill onto customers. Typical American foolishness, which for some reason became an excepted norm.

[Anonymous No.9491702]

>>9491665
it was a sad day when pricks like you started thinking you were superior to people who could murder you with their cocks.

[Anonymous No.9491704]

>>9491695
Americans are too fucking polite, we should have never allowed this to happen

[Anonymous No.9491707]

>>9491688
The dinosaurs roamed the earth 4,000 years ago alongside Noah and his brides. Happy now?
>>9491695
You don't have to tip. Some of the restaurants I frequent are no-tipping restaurants. It's more of a novelty and a political statement than anything, really. The final price of the meal ends up being more or less the same. And I suppose the staff end up not being able to cheat on their income tax as easily, which I suppose is ok by me although I don't really feel strongly about people making only 5 figures trying to beat a system that's rigged against them by people making 7 or 8 figures.

[Anonymous No.9491708]

>>9491687
this bait sucks. mods! get me a new one!

[Anonymous No.9491710]

>>9491707
>The dinosaurs roamed the earth 4,000 years ago alongside Noah and his brides. Happy now?
This is what service industry employees actually believe

[Anonymous No.9491715]

>>9491707
Tipping essentially is institutionalized tax fraud, none of us should support it, it just means a higher tax burden on the rest of us

Please remember to always tip via credit card to prevent fraud

[Anonymous No.9491718]

>>9491710
I'm just trying to speak to you in terms you might understand, Cleetus.

And I suppose, in a sense, most jobs are "service jobs". The "products" just get a lot more abstract and there are more acronyms and the job just gets harder and harder to describe to people outside of your immediate functional area.

[Anonymous No.9491728]

>>9491718
>And I suppose, in a sense, most jobs are "service jobs"
not by the actual definition of the term service industry

[Anonymous No.9491731]

>>9491715
I mostly tip on my credit card because I like the points. Which reminds me this quarter's 5% cashback bonus ends today for Chase Freedom and Discover customers. Next month is garbage, it's like Walmart and Target or something no one actually gives a shit about.

[Anonymous No.9491732]

>>9491718
If you are not serving external individuals directly, it is not the service industry

[Anonymous No.9491733]

>>9491728
Providing a service is the very goal of most if not all companies.

[Anonymous No.9491737]

>>9491731
Thats another good point. I don't understand why anyone ever pays for anything with anything besides a credit card for those bonuses
Especially elderly people, those fuckers are always using cash or checks

[Anonymous No.9491741]

>>9491733
ok, but thats not how that term is used

[Anonymous No.9491744]

>>9491737
Credit cards aren't as secure as having a set amount of money on you for the day. It keeps them from overspending, and it protects against theft and fraud.

[Anonymous No.9491746]

>>9491744
Jesus fucking christ, I hope this is a troll

[Anonymous No.9491755]

>>9491741
You cannot just take two words with set meanings, smash them together, and then say it means somethimg totally different. That is not how language works.

[Anonymous No.9491756]

>>9491744
>It keeps them from overspending
So does just acting like a normal ass adult. How is this even a concern?
>and it protects against theft and fraud
While technically true, the value added here is super tiny, much less than the gain from that free cash back you get using a credit card

[Anonymous No.9491765]

>>9491619
I don't tip the wait staff. I tip the delivery people. Fedex, UPS, but not the US Postal service.

Fuck the wait staff. Every si ngle one had been an entitled fucktard.

[Anonymous No.9491767]

>>9491755
"Service job" and "service industry" mean two different things. Function vs sector. You can be an accountant at White & Case. You can be in-house counsel at Facebook. Your understanding of language needs revision.

[Anonymous No.9491772]

>>9491755
>You cannot just take two words with set meanings, smash them together, and then say it means somethimg totally different. That is not how language works.
Actually, thats pretty common with language. Also not that it is not me personally doing this, I am not in charge of defining common phrases

[Anonymous No.9491777]

>>9490802
You live in rural Pennsylvania don't you, because you just described the surrounding area I live in

[Anonymous No.9491779]

>You cannot just take two words with set meanings, smash them together, and then say it means somethimg totally different
What about the Holy Roman Empire?
They were not holy, Roman, or an Empire yet that is what they are called

[Anonymous No.9491784]

>>9491746
Get an education. Stealing card numbers is far easier than stealing money, and takes quite a bit longer to notice provided it isn't used for retarded shit like a new television eight states away. You can cancel it, sure. But contrary to your high school educated belief, you likely won't get the charge removed unless you can actually prove it isn't you. Most credit card companies just don't care.

When it comes to the elderly, chances are they have a system set by themselves or their families to protect them from credit card or debit card theft and fraud, as well as a way of protecting them from overspending.

Having say 50 dollars on you for the day rather than a credit card means you do not go around charging an invisible balance that you will be shocked at later on in the month. Elders likely don't have ess to the internet and thus cannot readily check their bill.

Get your head out of your ass.

[Anonymous No.9491793]

>>9491060
>20%

Because bringing me 1 glass of soda and picking up my dishes is somehow worth 2 dollars? Your "good demeanor" and "excellent service" ain't worth shit to me. I don't go around giving walmart employees an extra 2 bucks for putting shit on shelves or a burger joint nobody for running a cash register.

Fuck that, I went to public school too. I can take my fucking plates to the counter where the old lady sprays that shit off.

[Anonymous No.9491795]

>>9491756
Clearly you have no idea what it means to be over the age of 70. There is a regression in common sense, and memory problems. It is called dementia. More people than you think suffer from it.

[Anonymous No.9491801]

>>9491795
and alzheimers*

Phone posting is worst posting.

[Anonymous No.9491803]

>>9491504

What should be embarrassing is the fucks who think picking up someones dirty dishes and bringing them a cup of water is worth 20% of their bill

[Anonymous No.9491807]

>>9491784
>hey everyone look how insecure I am about my education
Lol.

Also, I've been using credit cards for almost 20 years, literally every time there is a problem (except once), I've found out about it through fraud prevention well before I saw it personally. The one exception showed up on my app in the middle of the night, I rolled over and went back to sleep, and by the time I called them the next day, they had already cancelled the card, the pending transaction was gone, and there was a new card on the way.

[Anonymous No.9491812]

>>9491803
My brother works as a head cook and manager for a small chain. Apparently they split tips up between the cook and server at his place.

It depends on the location.

[Anonymous No.9491822]

>>9491795
If your old people brain problems are bad enough that a credit card is a problem, how in the hell are you going to manage the dozens of other recurring financial obligations that have to be taken care of every month without going bankrupt? This has nothing to do with credit cards specifically, if you can't manage a credit card statement you're not going to be able to balance a checkbook either.

[Anonymous No.9491823]

>>9491812

[Anonymous No.9491829]

>>9491822
>if you can't manage a credit card statement you're not going to be able to balance a checkbook either
Honestly, if you have a credit card and cannot just put it to autopay 100% every month and then not have to worry about it, you have pretty fucking serious issues

[Anonymous No.9491830]

>>9491822
It is called family centered care. Everyone in the family pitches in to help.

In the case of my grandmother, great aunts, and now mother, it has always fallen to the next of kin to help out. Responsibility was split between anyone who lived close enough.

[Anonymous No.9491841]

>>9491829
t. Someone who probably never dealt with someone with alzheimers or dementia.

It can get painful.

[Anonymous No.9491843]

>>9491830
>It is called family centered care. Everyone in the family pitches in to help.
But that's what I'm trying to get through your skull. If your grandma isn't managing her books anymore, then you're way past the point of whether a credit card is the right payment method. The same problem would apply to checks, cash, bitcoin, or whatever. She's not in charge anymore if she's depending on you to make sure she doesn't empty her bank account on Franklin Mint figurines.

[Anonymous No.9491851]

>>9491841
Yeah, I think alzheimers and dementia qualify as "pretty fucking serious issues"

[Anonymous No.9491867]

I was hanging around the dumbster at Wendy's for a rape but no one came. I probably would have chickened out though idk

[Anonymous No.9491889]

>>9491867
Is Wendy's dumpster rape a common occurrence where you're at?

[Anonymous No.9491894]

>>9490451
theyre just gonna throw the uneaten food away afterwards so its not like you 'stole' food

[Anonymous No.9491950]

>>9491889
In don't think so but I go over there jus saying

[Anonymous No.9492571]

>>9490674
>goy
Yes keep blaming the jews, proletariat. That's what we want. The peasan- I mean the people ought not think we're the ones fooling people.

[Anonymous No.9492820]

>>9490451
There is a large expensive hotel near me; occasionally when I'm out walking, as I always go well dressed, I'll stop in and have a walk around, the clerk always greets me, and I give a curt/disinterested nod and go on my way. Sometimes I wish I were more outgoing, and have fantasies of stumbling into parties etc, but I end up leaving empty-handed. Never tried looking for a breakfest area, may try next time-

[Anonymous No.9492843]

this is an uknown thing amongst poors:

i grew up belonging to a waspy country club and am currently the member of a city club (university club, squash type place) and the people at these places would never ever ever fuck with you if you acted like you were a member. you could come in and use the pool, drink at the bar, take a sauna, etc. and if you're dressed like everyone else or even just white no one would ever step to you

[Anonymous No.9492860]

>>9492571
eww a leftypole meem

[Anonymous No.9492904]

>>9491777
The entire Marcellus Formation area has exploded with this bullshit.

[Anonymous No.9492909]

sometimes at places like Denny's I leave the money on the table and then act like I'm ditching

if the waitress wants to play along and keep it all that's fine

[Anonymous No.9494163]

>>9491600
10% used to be standard years ago. Entitled wait cunts decided to meme 20% but I'll never do that

[Anonymous No.9494180]

>>9491252
>>9491600
>>9491695
>I'm not responsible to you
>you don't deserve me
>I'm not your boss
>you can't have my money
Are these wannabe Steve Buschemi types all schizophrenic? Why does it seem like they're constantly engaged in an argument with voices in their head representing a waiter they may or may not have interacted with once?

[Anonymous No.9494327]

>>9490082
I did the opposite a few weeks ago
>feeling really shitty, mom is nice and gives me some money
>borrow her car and go out to eat to cheer myself up
>order some food, pay at counter
>sit down, wait 45 minutes
>get really nervous
>run out the door because i think i'm going to start crying if i complain
mom wants to go back with me and get the money, not looking forward to it

[Anonymous No.9494473]

>>9494180
they are clearly talking to you specifically, rather than some other waiter.
You are the waiter making crazy ass claims of what is owed to her

[Anonymous No.9494491]

>>9494473
>the voices are now talking to a specific individual on the internet whose gender, post history, occupation, and opinions on tipping are revealed to me through emergent patterns in the chemtrails painted for me by Kenneth on TV

Did he tell you the frequency yet?

[Anonymous No.9494501]

>>9494491
Irony, the shackles of youth, anon.

[Anonymous No.9494504]

>>9494491
i mean most waiters are women, so that seems like a decent assumption

[Anonymous No.9494535]

>>9491702
Not him but i can reliably kill any big fucker, just not in a very honorable way.

[Anonymous No.9494557]

>>9494180
They are engaging with a hypothetical entity known as Anon. In this situation Anon is voiced by wait staff who believe they deserve 20% tip. This may or may not be true, since Anon can be anyone at any time. The only way to understand this diologue is contextually.

[Anonymous No.9494782]

>>9494491
>all I got left in the rebuttal tank is to call you a schizo, sorry, but I'll try my best to be my quirky and hilarious self.
Dearie me love, you alright? These lads givin you a hard time?