/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.9476317]

Where do you get YOUR protein? Instead of worrying about how much protein we're getting, we should focus more on the SOURCES of our protein. Protein in our foods comes packaged together with other things that can either be harmful or healthful, depending on the source.
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Protein from ANIMAL sources comes packaged with saturated fats; cholesterol; antibiotics; hormones including IGF1, estrogens, & progesterones; heme iron; choline & L-carnitine which are transformed into TMAO; heterocyclic amines; polyaromatic hydrocarbons; industrial pollutants such as mercury, polychlorinated biphenyls, & dioxins; advanced glycation endproducts; & neu5GC.
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These compounds are linked to inflammation, atherosclerosis, tumor cell growth, oxidative stress, insulin resistance, endocrine disruption, unhealthy weight gain, increased acid load, & negative changes in our gut bacteria. Even when we buy organic or grass-fed, we still get almost all of these noxious elements - they are inherent to the foods themselves.
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In contrast, protein from PLANT sources comes packaged with polyunsaturated fats, monounsaturated fats, fiber, & thousands of additional health-promoting phytonutrients including vitamins, polyphenols, & other antioxidants.
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This combination is a winning one, as it lowers oxidative stress and inflammation, increases insulin sensitivity, promotes a healthy gut microbiome, & reduces the risk of cardiovascular disease, cancer, type 2 diabetes, obesity, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, Alzheimer's, gout, kidney stones, & fatty liver disease, among others. Plant protein has even been shown to decrease the risk of premature death compared to animal protein.
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We can get all of the protein we need from plants. So the choice is yours. Where will you get your protein?

[Anonymous No.9476326]

Meat

[Anonymous No.9476337]

holy FUCK red = bad

think im gonna stick with meat, tastier and easier to incorporate into my meals in a way that i'll actually want to eat what i end up with

[Anonymous No.9476344]

Fish is good as hell for you dumbass

[Anonymous No.9476351]

>>9476317
Much good all that queer shit will do you when i've got your twig vegan neck in a chokehold fucking pussy ass bitch

[Anonymous No.9476353]

Hot beef injections, of course.

[Anonymous No.9476391]

>>9476317

[Anonymous No.9476423]

>>9476351
>touching a vegan

[Anonymous No.9476489]

>>9476353
I prefer hot dog injections myself.

[Anonymous No.9476495]

>>9476317
You forgot to list phytoestrogens, which give you manboobs and breast cancer. Yay for tofu, the carcinogenic meat substitute!

[Anonymous No.9477380]

I eat naturally, i.e. omnivorous. Veganism is not a diet, it's an eating disorder.

[Anonymous No.9477491]

>>9476317
Mercury is not a source of protein, nor is antibiotics or dioxins.

[Anonymous No.9477537]

>>9476317
>Where do you get YOUR protein?
Whey protein, Pea protein isolate, rolled oats and sometimes lean quark.
>>9476391
Mixing sources increases bioavailability.
For example:
Rice and sesame seeds
Bread and sesame seeds
Bread and sunflower seeds
Vegetable soup and bread
Corn and soya
Wheat and soya
Wheat bread and beans
Beans and rice

All score 100+ when combined, since each protein source has some kind of imbalance of essential amino acids.
If you combine them correctly , you can reduce that umbalance and therefore increase bioavailabilty.

[Anonymous No.9477544]

>>9476317
Meat

[Anonymous No.9477546]

>>9477380
I like you

[Anonymous No.9477548]

Greek yogurt and meat for me

[Anonymous No.9477571]

>>9477537
>Mixing sources increases bioavailability.
Source? I've only heard that mixing creates a complete protein which is different from bioavailability.

[Anonymous No.9477577]

>>9477571
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biologische_Wertigkeit

[Anonymous No.9477707]

>>9476317
Instant oats, milk, peanut butter and eggs.

[Anonymous No.9477729]

>>9476317
I'm on the keto diet so all I eat is basically every meat and fat I can get my hands on along with a lot of vegetables. No carbs. Doctor says I'm pretty healthy too.Though, I do think that maybe we need to source our meats better, but since I actually have a life outside of thinking about whether my bacon was from a pig in a farm or a pig locked in a factory pumped full of drugs...ehhh. Anyways, if you wanna do vegan, cool. You do you. By the way, diabetes diagnosis actually started to rise around the same time when a shit ton of sugars and grains were advertised on television. What did the standard American diet look like circa 1960? Mostly bacon and eggs in the morning and a glass of milk or coffee. Soda consumption wasn't that high either. What does our breakfast look like now on average? A whole bowl of cereal. There is a shit ton of sugar in there. Now, I'm not saying that sugar is bad. It's our consumption society that makes a collective conscience want to binge on sugar. In fact, we as a collective society want to binge on everything. Humanity as a whole is absolutely terrible at individual self-control. So, if you want to change minds, you need to appeal to that consumption hive-mind on many different points. Having only a vegan point makes you kind of boring.

[Anonymous No.9477730]

Hot pockets.

[Anonymous No.9477758]

>>9476317
Why do vegans enjoy shitposting so much?

[Anonymous No.9478190]

>>9476317
Lol only so many vegan old people right :^)

[Anonymous No.9478204]

>>9476317
>be medfag
>Constantly hear professors mention how vegans are so hard to treat
No wonder there are so few of you

[Anonymous No.9478212]

>>9478204
Really? People with advanced food autism are difficult to deal with?

[Anonymous No.9478225]

>>9478212
They are opinionated, manny have nutritional deficiencies few know a thing about nutriology (and the ones who do follow a diet that is unflexible and comparable to a bomb diffuse Operation in how delicate the balance is) and are ver prone to follow trends from Buzzfeed

[Anonymous No.9478228]

>>9476317
OP, you write like a Woman
Are you a Woman?
You are a Woman

[Anonymous No.9478251]

> VEGETARIAN DIETS LEAD TO 80% INCREASE IN COLON CANCER VS MEAT BASED DIETS

Long term vegetarian diet changes human DNA raising risk of cancer and heart disease.

by Sarah Knapton

Long term vegetarianism can lead to genetic mutations which raise the risk of heart disease and cancer, scientists have found.

Populations who have had a primarily vegetarian diet for generations were found to be far more likely to carry DNA which makes them susceptible to inflammation.

Scientists in the US believe that the mutation occured to make it easier for vegetarians to absorb essential fatty acids from plants.

But it has the knock-on effect of boosting the production of arachidonic acid, which is linked to inflammatory disease and cancer. When coupled with a diet high in vegetable oils - such as sunflower oil - the mutated gene quickly turns fatty acids into dangerous arachidonic acid.

The finding may help explain previous research which found vegetarian populations are nearly 40 per cent more likely to suffer colorectal cancer than meat eaters, a finding that has puzzled doctors because eating red meat is known to raise the risk.

[Anonymous No.9478254]

>>9478251

Wow.

Veganism has direct causation of cancer, not just correlation.

Why are vegans hiding this data from the world?

[Anonymous No.9478264]

>>9478251
>> VEGETARIAN DIETS LEAD TO 80% INCREASE IN COLON CANCER VS MEAT BASED DIETS

Might want to correct your headline to match your own article...

> The finding may help explain previous research which found vegetarian populations are nearly 40 per cent more likely to suffer colorectal cancer than meat eaters

[Anonymous No.9478270]

>>9476317
>In contrast, protein from PLANT sources comes packaged with polyunsaturated fats, monounsaturated fats, fiber, & thousands of additional health-promoting phytonutrients including vitamins, polyphenols, & other antioxidants.


And don't forget Kids!

Eat 12 to 15 servings of fresh, delicious Monsanto Certified(tm) organic products from your local Whole Foods today!

[Anonymous No.9478334]

>>9478270

Monsanto is doing a great fucking job of brainwashing impressionable little liberals.

[Anonymous No.9478351]

>>9478334
this sentence doesn't make any sense anon, liblabs are leading the march against GMOs ya dingus

[Anonymous No.9478373]

>>9478334

[Anonymous No.9478383]

>>9478334

It's not brainwashing!!! Liberals CHOOSE to be vegans, not only because of monsanto advertising.

[Anonymous No.9478422]

>>9478334
>anti-industry anti-biotech ludditism
>not liberal
Lmfao

[Anonymous No.9478473]

>>9477577
I don't speak Arabic.

[Anonymous No.9478540]

>>9476317
I only eat animal protein - being healthy is overrated.

[Anonymous No.9478557]

>>9476317
>Where do you get YOUR protein?
From raw chicken, like other murdering imperialist rapists.

Get a life, gayboy.

[Anonymous No.9478574]

>>9478251
>The finding may help explain previous research which found vegetarian populations are nearly 40 per cent more likely to suffer colorectal cancer than meat eaters

WTF?

Why do vegans hide these facts from the public?

At least the meat industry will straight up tell you that eating a pound of bacon every meal will give you a heart attack.

Why can't the Agriculture industry be honest with their dangers & risks? Why must BigAgra keep pretending their GMO foods and pesticides aren't toxic and cancerous?

[Anonymous No.9478583]

>>9476317

fuck off dumbass

[Anonymous No.9478584]

>>9478574
>At least the meat industry will straight up tell you that eating a pound of bacon every meal will give you a heart attack.
>Why can't the Agriculture industry be honest with their dangers & risks? Why must BigAgra keep pretending their GMO foods and pesticides aren't toxic and cancerous?

Hello? Have you even heard of a company called Monsanto? They own the FDA.

FUN FACT:

The man in charge of the FDA is no other than the ex CEO of Monsanto.

Just let that sink in for a minute.

[Anonymous No.9478591]

>Where do you get YOUR protein?
From a piece of meat instead of 30lb of spinach

[Anonymous No.9478596]

>>9476317
you should remove your tinfoil hat and think again

[Anonymous No.9478604]

>>9478591
this.
also why are vegans so fucking obnoxious cunts?

[Anonymous No.9478612]

>>9478264
80% increase and 40% more could be the same amount though.

[Anonymous No.9478617]

>>9478584
>FUN FACT:
>The man in charge of the FDA is no other than the ex CEO of Monsanto.

Literally putting a corporate CEO in charge of our food safety....

And since Michael Taylor's appointment, zero studies have come out showing pesticide treated vegetables are carcinogenic or pose a health risk.

In fact, several major studies linking vegetarian diets to cancer have been "de-publicized" upon his request.

I can see you 'mericans have zero concept of "conflict of interest."

[Anonymous No.9478647]

>>9478617
fun fact, most of the world don't give two shits about the FDA

[Anonymous No.9478662]

>>9478647
>most of the world don't give two shits about the FDA, which is owned by Monsanto

I'm just going to laugh at your ignorance for a while....

[Anonymous No.9478665]

>>9476317

Fish/seafood/beans/eggs

[Anonymous No.9478669]

>>9478647
>most of the world don't give two shits about the FDA, which is owned by Monsanto

lol

[Anonymous No.9478674]

>>9478647
>most of the world don't give two shits about the FDA, which is owned by Monsanto

lol x 9000

[Anonymous No.9478680]

>>9478662
>>most of the world don't give two shits about the FDA, which is owned by Monsanto

laughter, continued...

[Anonymous No.9478688]

>>9476317
>were do you get your protein from
Semen

[Anonymous No.9478701]

>>9476317
No mention of pesticides, fertilizers, phytoestrogen, nonheme iron, or oxalates. Dioxins only listed under the left side (lol). Heme iron is a bad thing apparently.

Very little protein on the right side of OP's pic. No mention of B12, DHA, or that many nutrients are more bio-available when obtained from animal sources.

[Anonymous No.9478703]

>>9478251
The fuck does this have to do with vegans, GMOs, or pesticides, retard? They're reporting on a genetic variant that allows for more efficient elongation of SC-PUFA to LC-PUFA. It just so happens to be more common in cultures consuming less animal-based foods, probably because they have diets are lower in preformed LC-PUFA. An imbalanced amount of dietary n-6 SC-PUFA relative to n-3 SC-PUFA is more common in some of these vegetarian (not vegan) populations like India, and is hypothesized to increase chronic disease risk.

[Anonymous No.9478711]

>>9478647
>t. cityfolk

[Anonymous No.9478743]

I eat primarily vegetarian, since I'm broke. The majority of my protein comes from beans and lentils. Anecdotally, I felt much healthier when I ate a healthy portion of meat every day.

[Anonymous No.9478744]

>>9478647
>fun fact, most of the world don't give two shits about the FDA
No, the give a lot of shits. Inspect your meat, people!

[Anonymous No.9478759]

>>9478647
Lol theyre only the decision makers for all of the import and export of food in America as well as having the power to walk on to any food production site without notice and shut them down with no documents or specific reason necessary.

[Anonymous No.9478762]

>>9476317
I get all my protein from misplaced trollish political threads on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.9478763]

>>9478662
>>9478744
so, why exactly would anyone outside of usa care about an organisation in usa?

[Anonymous No.9478779]

>>9478701
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZTZxXIDchw
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06gyDSKTmic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9kRDxjpwPk

[Anonymous No.9478808]

>>9478763
See>>9478759
They decide what you're allowed to import to America. Their guidelines also have to mesh with e.u. and Japanese guidelines in order for their respective agencies to allow American products in.

You know those big trade deals always in the news? A lot of what makes that shit difficult is interagency food and agriculture regulations.

[Anonymous No.9479110]

>>9476317
>avocado
>protein

[Anonymous No.9479125]

>>9478647
>this is the level of knowledge of the people making political arguments on this website

[Anonymous No.9479409]

>>9479125
Yeah, and most of congress couldn't pass the 100 question citizenship test. What's your point?

[Anonymous No.9479897]

>>9476317
You're retarded to think that you don't get excess amount of estrogen from soy products. They have been specifically linked to cancers, infertility, and breast cancer especially. And most of your "plant-based products" and nearly all of your meat immitation products have soy.
Also, you're retarded if you think "muh bigger portions" is going to convert fatties. Fatties are fat because of the flavor, not purely from the mass amount they can stuff in their gut. Not a single fattie here is going to say, "Hmm OP is so not a faggot and I think I will replace this pie slice with 4 fucking cups of spinich leaves drizzled in lemon juice. Yeah that sounds just as enticing."