/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.9372399]

>14 minutes until close
>fryers cleaned and turned off
>grills cleaned and ready for tomorrows open

>uhh can I get 3 big macs and 5 double cheese burgers no pickles?

If you try to pull this stunt there is a 110% you WILL have your food tempered with. Enjoy that saliva (if you're lucky that's all you'll get). It amazes me how people think they can pull this off and expect their food to be spit free. Even the fucking managers are in on it. Some buffoon had the audacity to order 7 cheeseburgers 22 minutes from close, jokes on that fat fuck he's probably in the ER right now

[Anonymous No.9372428]

Inb4 300 replies

[Anonymous No.9372503]

weak bait
you know what goes in the options field

[Anonymous No.9372510]

close time doesn't mean you get to go home wagie, clean your dumb grills AFTER i've gotten my onion free mcfeast

[Anonymous No.9372522]

>>9372399
This is why fast food kids will never get $15, theyre not worth it.

[Anonymous No.9372534]

nice bait, fast food joints don't clean their kitchens

[Anonymous No.9372539]

>>9372510

No. If the store closes at 1:00 im going to be home by 1:15. Max. If you think I give a shit about your obese ass enough to delay my weekend night, you're delusional. If you don't believe me I don't really care, go order 3 minutes from close.

[Anonymous No.9372543]

>tfw i order 100 mcnuggies 15 min prior closing with my buddies

[Anonymous No.9372547]

>He doesn't have a 24 hour McDonald's

What bum fuck village are you from?

[Anonymous No.9372556]

>>9372399
>>9372539

It's your job you ignorant little shit, the people eating there don't give a shit about you, do your fucking job properly and stop bitching about it. You are not entitled to anything, you're a fucking fast food worker, you are nothing, expandable trash and if you could get out of that category you wouldn't be such a pathetic little shit in the first place.

[Anonymous No.9372558]

I know it's a shit post. But honestly restaurants (not just fast food) should have a last call time of 30 minutes prior to closing.

[Anonymous No.9372562]

>>9372399
>tfw i want spit in my food.

[Anonymous No.9372563]

>>9372399
>thinking McDick's grills or fries their food
Shite bait

[Anonymous No.9372568]

>>9372558
Most do unless they're run by idiots.

[Anonymous No.9372575]

>>9372399
then why doesnt the manager, or company policy, dictate you close your doors at 12:45? obviously they intend to serve new customers up until 12:59 if their doors are unlocked u fucking pissmonkey

[Anonymous No.9372599]

>>9372563
you're thinking of burger king

[Anonymous No.9372617]

>>9372503
>you know what goes in the options field
You know what I say to you: fuck you, bumped.

[Anonymous No.9372624]

>>9372399
>turning things off and cleaning them before the store is closed
it's your own goddamn fault

[Anonymous No.9372626]

>>9372539
>he doesn't like getting paid for working longer

[Anonymous No.9372698]

now I think of it, I can't recall a single maccas that isn't 24 hours. Are 24 hour mcdonalds just a straya thing?

[Anonymous No.9372713]

People need to stop buying fast food so losers like OP won't be able to find a job.

[Ruby !Sempai.oWA No.9372733]

>close
Where do you live that McDonalds is not open 24 hours a day?

[None !OPIATE9fy. No.9372735]

>>9372698
they have 24 hour ones in the US usually in places with lots of minorities

[Anonymous No.9372745]

>>9372539
Looks like you won't have a job for a hell of a lot longer then you prick. Enjoy poverty, loser.

[Anonymous No.9372748]

You idiots, the problem lies with whoever dictates the rules of the business. Don't jump down each others' throats, neither customer nor employee is at fault here

Stop treating people lesser based on their income. If everyone did that, the world would be as fucked as it currently is... assholes

[Anonymous No.9372751]

>>9372558
They do it's called closing time and when you work in a restaurant you recognize that that is the end of seating not the end of shift.

[Anonymous No.9372753]

>>9372399
>tempered

[Anonymous No.9372758]

>>9372562
>go to a restaurant
>see that the chef is an attractive woman

[Anonymous No.9372759]

Yet you want higher minimum wage...

[Anonymous No.9372773]

>>9372751

>t. never worked in a restaurant

The closing time is when the kitchen closes. We don't let in new customers, and the ones that already eating can't order food after that point.

But yeah, if you walk into an empty restaurant less than 30 minutes before close and order a full meal you're an asshole.

[Anonymous No.9372779]

>>9372748
NO, he works at a restaurant. His job is to cater to the customer.

The rules of the business dictate that he is to serve the customer until the business closes, not 15 minutes before, or even 3 minutes before.

If he cannot handle these basic responsibilities, he has no business leaving his bedroom, let alone working with and around people's food.

[Anonymous No.9372786]

CLOSING TIME
TIME FOR YOU TO GO OUT
GO OUT INTO THE WORLD

[Anonymous No.9372833]

>>9372779
I can tell you've never worked a single day in your life. Call times are primarily set to save the employer money. Keeping 5-8 people clocked in for an extra 30 minutes is not worth one or two customers. If management were in OPs shoes they would probably be okay with him turning away that guy.

[Anonymous No.9372850]

i bought sushi near closing time once and got food poisoning lol

[Anonymous No.9372902]

>make minimal wage
>do mininal effort

How hard is this to understand

[Anonymous No.9372946]

>>9372786
Song always makes me want to cry

[Anonymous No.9372950]

>>9372902
As my Dad always says
>Pay peanuts
>Get Monkeys

[Anonymous No.9372980]

>>9372399
If I were the owner, I'd institute a policy where we have to stay fully operational right up until close. If we close at 11:00, and some faggot comes in at 10:59 and orders a hundred fagburgers, you'll serve him or I'll can your ass. Clean up AFTER hours.

[Anonymous No.9373006]

>>9372833
You're a fucking idiot.

I'm at work right now, at a datacenter in the PNW as a project manager and lead. I have many more than 5-8 people working under me at any given time.

>probably be okay with

And that's how I know that you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground. Also, he didn't say he turned them away, he said he tampers with the food.

If the open hours of the restaurant are say, 8-5, then I should be able to pull up at 4:55 and hey, guess what?? NOT CLOSED.

Go fuck yourself you ignorant filthy philistine.

[Anonymous No.9373012]

>>9372946
The lyrics are corny as all hell but man is it a good song to sing to.

[Anonymous No.9373021]

>>9372547
>24 hour McDonald's
>Lobby still closes

[Anonymous No.9373037]

>>9373006

You have no idea what you're talking about and clearly have never worked with food

Every minute you stay open is a minute you need to keep all food items fresh/sanitary, keep workers paid, and resume regular work time activity. It makes sense to keep 8 employees on the clock and ensure all food items are stocked/fresh during peak hours when the store is collecting 1000 dollars an hour, not when that drops to 100 dollars an hour. At that point you're losing money keeping the store open. Keep in mind that if you stay stocked to the last minute you WILL have food waste, which is unavoidable especially considering your workers are high school students. 24 hours work in high traffic areas, and even then it's literally 2 workers, not the 5-8 that would be on the clock at 10-12

[Anonymous No.9373067]

Reminds me of a story...

>very drunk after bar one night
>driving with buddy to get some food
>craving shitty chinese, panda express it is
>pull up to drive thru
>no answer
>'uhhhhhhhh hello? anyone there?'
>wait a couple more minutes
>finally shaniqua answers
>'smack smack smack hmmm welcom tah panna spress what can GIRL I aint fuckin playin witchu, put that, GIRL WHAT THE FUCK I SAY...mmm yeah what u want'
>order food, more silence
>finally comes back on, sheboon shrieking in background
>'mmmm yeah i dint git that one mah time'
>order again, more silence
>about 30 seconds later...
>'ay yo we jus close sawry bout dat'
>scream afrocentric obscenities and insults into speaker
>girls hanging out order window screaming at us as we drive by
>friend chucks road beer and lit cigarette through the window at them

Good times

[Anonymous No.9373076]

>>9372399
>Be you
>high school dropout
>making min wage
>working late
>getting upset when sucessful people have to get something to eat


fucking cucks i swear on me mum

[Anonymous No.9373099]

>>9372399
>Even the fucking managers are in on it.
Why not have them change closing time to be earlier if you're so angry about that phenomena? Those customers are ordering within the rules, they don't deserve spit in their food.
I guess it's a good thing I don't eat from McDonald's if the workers are this spiteful. I bet you'd spit in my food if you got my order wrong and I inconvenienced you by asking for the correct one.

[Anonymous No.9373108]

>>9372399
If you aren't closed than the fryers should not be turned off you high school drop out

[Anonymous No.9373145]

>a bloo bloo bloo why won't the highschool person make MY burger
Maybe learn to cook for yourselves so you don't pay ten bucks for a shitty meal you manchildren.

[Anonymous No.9373149]

>>9372399
I thought McDonald's was 24/7
Do Americans really do this?

[Anonymous No.9373150]

>>9372399
>14 minutes until close
So 15 minutes till you can start cleaning up

[Anonymous No.9373164]

Amerifats. I see why you are all so obese.

[Anonymous No.9373169]

>>9372399
The only reason I let this situation slide usually is because I live on both US coasts and travel for work, so 9:45 in Oregon feels like 6:45 after a stint in the East.

[Anonymous No.9373187]

>>9372399
Why don't restaurants close a half hour early to reflect clean up time?

[Anonymous No.9373195]

>>9373187
Most places do that.

But every once in a while you encounter some fucktard manager who instructs people to start cleaning before they're actually closed.

[Anonymous No.9373204]

>work at Jimmy johns
>less then an hour before close
>giant lady comes in and explains how shes going on a road trip
>orders 3 platters (each platter in 10 subs)
>while shes waiting we realize we have to make a fresh bin of Tuna for the subs she wants
>Manger gets all pissy because making new Tuna salad is the worst shit ever
>I ask my manager where the lady is so we can ask her if she'll reconsider
>he shouts "She's out in her big fucking dyke truck!"
>chuckle and return to making sandwiches
>look up and realize she was on the other side of the wall where my manager was
>she heard everything he said
>mfw
That was the best moment I had there, I laughed about that all week.

[Anonymous No.9373207]

>>9373150
Yeah basically this.

But, you're also talking about people who think they deserve 15 dollars an hour for watching a burger patty run through a cooking conveyor and drop into a tray where it sits for 4 hours.

[Anonymous No.9373211]

>>9373187
It's typically calculated, but that one late night burger doesn't make up for the two people in the BOH making $11.00 an hour each. It's kind of a catch 22 because owners want to keep employees happy by giving them hours but they also don't want unnecessary overhead; electricity, payroll, gas, etc.

If you close at 6, you've still got an hour of clean up. If you close at 10 you could have most everything already cleaned and put away. Take your pic bro.

[Anonymous No.9373230]

>>9372399
I order a shitload of big macs right before closing and then throw it all away just to watch the wagies suffer.

[Anonymous No.9373232]

>>9373187
>restaurant now closes at 9:30
>dude comes in at 9:25 asking for food
>still 5 minutes before closing
Am I missing something here?

[Anonymous No.9373253]

Get a better job if you can't deal with it, you useless faggot.

[Anonymous No.9373313]

>>9373187
>>9373006
Are you guys actual autists? They don't close before the call time because people might be waiting for their food or are still eating. Holy fuck, NEETs were a mistake.

[Anonymous No.9373331]

>>9372399
I worked at a Hardee's about a year and a half ago. Closing shift. Just me and an asst. manager most days. He was a chill dude, and honestly I can't think of a time that frustrated me where we got a burger near close; the real killer was the chicken tenders, since the franchise owner usually wanted the breading transferred and sifted before close, so that'd really bust our timetables since we gotta get the chicken out, milk n bread it, and fry for 3:33 (which eats up a considerable amount of our <5min window times)

But a burger? You just throw it and the buns through the grillers, slap shit together and box it. Of course if some nigger comes by wanting double-digits of anything, that's a pain.

>>9373150
See when people say shit like this it becomes clear that they have either never worked in a food joint or have been blessed; even restaurants do pre-close and will restrict their options as it comes closer to time, to where ideally all that is left to be done is to wipe everything down, sweep, and lock up. Business expects you out the door <15min after actual closing of the facility, ideally <10. You tell me you and one dude can clean up and take down a whole joint by then with no pre-close and I will tell you you're full of shit.

[Anonymous No.9373434]

>>9372773
Empty restaurant is the key there. If it's still busy and you order 5 minutes before close the kitchen isn't going to give a fuck, they haven't gotten far on their close anyway. It's when an order comes in ten minutes to close but you've had no orders for an hour so you're basically ready to walk out the door that it kind of sucks.

Having said that, i don't mind at all making food as long as we're open. It's a bit of a pain to re-close stuff you've already taken care of but that's the job.

[Anonymous No.9373477]

>>9372399
Good, worthless fucks that have to resort to fast food jobs deserve the worst fucking live possible. I don't eat fast food, but routinely go to fast food joints 5 minutes before close and order a fuck ton just to ruin those pathetic wage cucks life even more.

My favorite thing to do is to leave all of the food at the exit and piss on it so they can see the food but can't eat it

[Anonymous No.9373485]

>9373006
>I have many more than 5-8 people working under me at any given time.
How many then, on average? Bad b8, not even really replying.

[Anonymous No.9373497]

>>9373230

Same, I often go in close to closing time at fast food places (when I am travelling around the country) and order several hundred dollars worth of shit. If they start getting pissy about not making it, I threaten to get in touch with corporate about them. Then (if they've been pissy at all) once they've been delayed by an hour or more with making shit, I refuse to take it and demand a refund because I think they tampered with it.

If I don't get a refund, I just drop the food all over the floor (even more top kek when they have fully cleaned it for closing, tip: where some cheap sneakers so you can kick burgers etc you drop and make a real big mess to clean up). Then I contact corporate anyway about it and more often than not get a full refund.

[Anonymous No.9373502]

>>9373497
i love you, you are my spirit animal

[Anonymous No.9373519]

>>9373497
>>9373230
>things that never happened
Nice edgelord fantasies you have there

[Anonymous No.9373525]

>>9373519

We aren't all poorfags like you. Tormenting minimum wage scum is hilarious.

[Anonymous No.9373548]

>>9373497
idk man, that sounds boring. being a dick just for the sake of it is really boring to me but hey, if that's who you are have fun you unbelievable dick.

[Anonymous No.9373552]

SAUTE PAN
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T
E

Slap a pan on a flattop and cook your late order in that, are you guys fucking noobs or what? Shit's easy and creates no mess. Fuck I could cook a fucking quesadilla on a half sheet tray on a clean flattop.

Fucking get gud you punk whiny bitches.

[Anonymous No.9373589]

>>9373525
Wealthy or not the only reason to waste money like that is to be an asshole for no reason other than to be an asshole. Of course, if someone is wealthy it means they work hard for their money so they're not going to be stupid and frivolous with their money and throw it away like that. Like the other anon said. It didn't happen. Nobody thought your little stories were funny anyway.

[Anonymous No.9373643]

>>9373589

Jealous poorfag spotted.

>durr rich people are never frivolous with their money!

Possibly the most stupid thing I have read all week.

[Anonymous No.9373647]

>>9373589
Fuck off poor fag. All of you poor shits should be cleansed from the earth in the most painful way

[Anonymous No.9373665]

>when underage edgelords get lost on their way to /b/

[Anonymous No.9373871]

>>9372399
>work all day at a real actual job where I have to actually work for the entire time I'm supposed to be on the clock
>go to restaurant during their normal posted hours
>retard like OP looks at me as if I'm not allowed to do that

[Anonymous No.9373886]

>>9372399
you mad wagie?

[Anonymous No.9373897]

The real question is. Why are you fucking faggots up that late getting fast food. Get the fuck up earlier and get shit from the store to cook at your own choosing. Fucking losers lmao

[Anonymous No.9373904]

I will never understand fucking with people's food. I don't give a fuck if I broke everything down already, if I did, and people are still ordering, clearly I miscalculated. If you're so worried about it don't shut down early or deny the sale.
Had a waitress come into my kitchen and tell me to drop the guys food on the ground, no fucking way, I don't care if he fucked your sister, not happening.
Nothing enrages me as much as this. Some other thot had the stones to spit on a dish right in front of me. Should've seen her fucking face when I calmly threw it in the garbage and remade it (overreacted, yelled at her, and saw her jump out of her skin before I went full tilt).
Fuck YOU, OP. I have health standards to uphold and I'd can your lazy ass if I had the displeasure of hiring you.

[Anonymous No.9373992]

>>9373904
Good job, anon. You have actual principles.

[Anonymous No.9374026]

>>9372399
I do not eat beefburgers.

[Anonymous No.9374042]

>>9372399
Know what's even worse, OP?

>Some jackass pulls up thirty minutes after we closed
>Thinks we're still open
>Tries ordering
>Tell them we're closed
>They get mad as fuck and start screaming

[Anonymous No.9374223]

>>9372399
>closing before closing time
Can someone who actually has had the misfortune of working at a fastfood cuckshed tell me why this is a thing apparently?

[Anonymous No.9374297]

>>9372399
I work at McDonald's. You are a grade A asshole, the world doesn't revolve around you. You are supposed to clean shit WHEN YOU ACTUALLY FUCKING CLOSE anyway.

[Anonymous No.9374339]

>>9372399
i could never participate in that kinda shit if i worked at a place. Like fuck off, you flip fucking burgers with zitheads , it isnt a hard job to do right. I would never hawk a loogie or anything if i flipped burgers. fucking cunts. Cantwait for the end

[Anonymous No.9374382]

>work at grocery store
>do bagger and cashier shifts
>bagger close is taking care of trashcans, empty beer bottles, open deck
>customers have no influence
>get to chat with cashier and lax supervisor
Get on my level plebs

[Anonymous No.9374403]

>>9374223
If you work in a place with proper sanitation it takes a while to properly clean up and prep for the next day, so the managers will let people start as soon as possible, usually closing different parts of the kitchen that are less used.

The sooner people leave the less you have to pay them.

[Anonymous No.9374408]

>>9374223
Because we want to go home

[Anonymous No.9374424]

>>9372399
>being too much of a entitled faggot to do what you get paid for

[Anonymous No.9374539]

>>9373497

[Anonymous No.9374632]

>>9372399
i dont order from a place if it closes in < 30 mins

i dont need my chance of eating spit increased by 600%

[Anonymous No.9374641]

>>9372539
>>9372399
$15 DOLLARS
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[Anonymous No.9374653]

>>9372399
>McDonalds
>grills

[Anonymous No.9374671]

>Work at Publix Deli
>9:45pm, old black woman coworker in the sub station is washing her floot and shit and is just about done
>Old black guy saunters up to the counter and orders five custom subs, turning a 5 minute order into a ten minute ordeal because she has to cut everything.
>The entire time she's using my slicers she's calling him a "Burnt ass old black ass piece of shit" and stuff like that
>Mfw the entire time
Seriously, don't come into a place right before it closes and order a bunch of shit, get in and get out because you're pissing off literally everyone in the establishment who's trying to go home because you're a fuckup who waited until the last second to get something to eat.

Customer service is total masochism.

[Anonymous No.9374681]

>>9372399
>you WILL have your food tempered with.
>tempered with
This is why you're stuck working in the fast food market.

[Anonymous No.9374684]

what's your store # so I can fill out a survey

[Anonymous No.9374686]

>>9374681
>He doesn't temper his burgers in a forge for more flavor
lol first day on /ck/?

[Anonymous No.9374696]

>>9374671
Then how about you just say no more orders after 9:30pm. Blame your company not the customer fagtard.

[Anonymous No.9374720]

>>9374696
You must have never heard of Publix.

We are literally, and I'm using that word right for once, the customer's bitch. We have absolutely nothing we can do against customers. We consistently have people stay in the store up to an hour after it closes because we aren't allowed to tell people the store is closed. We have customers constantly get anything they want for free if they make up an excuse that it isn't up to their standards, or if they just aren't in a good mood they can throw a fit and the managers fill their carts with free shit to get them to calm down.

I almost lost my job for refusing to cut a woman some cheese because it was fucking 10:30 and she was hanging around the store. There was a time where a customer brought his family into the store right at 9:59 and spent an entire hour with his kids sprinting around the store screaming and shit and we couldn't do anything about it.

[Anonymous No.9374745]

>>9374671
>black woman coworker in the sub station is washing her floot
The fuck is a floot

[Anonymous No.9374751]

>>9374745
Meant to say floor sorry.

[Anonymous No.9374756]

>>9374751
Oh, I thought it was something more interesting.

[Anonymous No.9374806]

>work at restaurant
>pack down starts 45min before close
>clean everything that needs cleaning, keep 1 board out and maybe dessert ingredients close at hand
>people can still order, we can still easily make everything (might have to pull stuff from fridge, use 1 pan or something)
>very minimal cleaning to do after that
>walk out 10 mins after close because im not a fucking monkey and everything is already clean or mostly clean

[Anonymous No.9374838]

>>9374671
What does them being black have to do with anything? Do white people never, ever come in 5 minutes before closing time?

[Anonymous No.9374853]

>>9374838
It was funny to me because a 67 year old black woman was calling another black man racist shit. That's how much it pisses people off when someone comes in right before the store closes.

[Anonymous No.9374859]

>>9372556
Ethnically challenged much?

[Anonymous No.9374862]

>only drivethrough open
>go through on my bicycle
>people walk through after me
>i get served and they don't, massive shitfight ensues
hehehe

[Anonymous No.9374873]

Aren't fastfood workers paid hourly?

[Anonymous No.9374940]

OK you fucking disgust me...
Sorry you had to be unconvinced at your job, but it's a fucking job and you should do it with pride and integrity. Some of us actually take great care in making sure that we fulfill expectation, no matter how shitty the task is.
This karma will come back to fuck you up the ass, fucking degenerate piece of shit!
People get off late from work and don't have a lot of options and need a quick bite, they don't care if you are the miserable fuck who has to do it.
There are standards in place for a reason to protect hard working earners spending hard earned money in YOUR establishment...
Seriously kid, what if that was your fucking mom going to a respected franchise for a bite having a dollop of saliva and jizz served to her? It's fucks like you that need an anal stretching for the ages. I swear if I find out where the fuck you work I'm calling the BBB you dumb fuckwad!!!

[Anonymous No.9374967]

>>9372399
What should I get? I'm thinking about the Hanbaga (hamburger for you gaijin)

[Anonymous No.9374989]

>>9373204
fucking hilarious!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.9374998]

>>9372399
>spit in the food
Fuck that, I'm doing minimum effort necessary, spit costs extra.

[Anonymous No.9375164]

>>9374403
But why does it matter of it is a faceless corporation footing the Bill? Are the workers mad they are making more money?

[Anonymous No.9375280]

>not cleaning one grill at 7 and not cleaning the other one until close
You know how long it actually takes an employee that gives a shit to clean the grill? 15 minutes max seriously you spray the fucking cleaner on there and scrub it with the bad and our water in it after you've scrubbed it then squeegee the rest of it off and wipe it down with a towel
If you can't even do that in under 15 minutes youre too stupid even for minimum wage

[Anonymous No.9375321]

>>9374671
>ten minute ordeal

Oh no your job sounds sooooooo hard. Lmao fucking pathetic faggot no wonder you have such a shit job

[Anonymous No.9375329]

>>9374671

>Seriously, don't come into a place right before it closes and order a bunch of shit, get in and get out because you're pissing off literally everyone in the establishment who's trying to go home because you're a fuckup who waited until the last second to get something to eat.
Jesus Christ I really hope English isn't your first language

[Anonymous No.9375424]

>>9372399
>reported to the McDonalds university of burger excellence

[Anonymous No.9375504]

>>9373037
andddd despite all that in mind, what did the owner make the hours?

so fucking stick to them. if he gave a fuck you might not get to leave at 5:01 the closing time would be 4:55

[Anonymous No.9375507]

>>9374671
>dont expect people do to their jobs, what do you think, they get paid to do this shit?

[Anonymous No.9375752]

>>9373497
doing god's work

[Anonymous No.9375811]

>>9375164
Because those managers have a profit margin to uphold. The cucks screaming "If I owned a restaurant I'd FORCE them to stay open" couldn't run a lemonade stand much less a kitchen. In no world is a 20~ dollar entree worth the 100 dollars in overhead it takes to breakdown a kitchen entirely after the front doors are locked.

[Anonymous No.9375848]

>not having a chill understandable manager who got his employee's back, rather not earn a dollar, would like to close and go home as soon as possible

[Anonymous No.9375855]

>>9372399
For me, it's the McChicken

[Anonymous No.9375880]

>until close

Why are you cleaning the cooking equipment while you're still in service? Shouldn't you do that after you stop accepting orders?

I know this is bait, but do some work you lazy mexicant.

[Anonymous No.9375893]

>>9374806
Most of the people complaining in this thread work in fast food. If they were actually competent they wouldn't be working in fast food.

[Anonymous No.9375958]

>>9374806
Right. It's easy as fuck to keep the bare minimum available while you clean everything else. Plus cooking shit for yourself real quick after you close. There's like 50 other things you can do besides turning off the grill and fryer.

[Anonymous No.9376014]

>>9372556

Fuck you little bitch, tell me that irl, little cunt.

[Anonymous No.9376017]

>>9372779

Customer = not the king, fuck you.

[Nick Nergo No.9376117]

>>9372399
>spits in food bc nigga wants a burger
>goes to 4chan to gloat
>seems proud
Top Tier minimum wage faggot boys

[Anonymous No.9376186]

>work in bar that also serves food
>closing time at 1
>people come in at 10 minutes before closing
>we gladly let them order food and stay around
>they all leave at 3 A.M.
>start cleaning then, knowing we made some customers happy and made some extra money

Then again I make double minimum wage so whatever.

[Anonymous No.9376206]

>there are people who actually want to pay these pattyflippers 15 (FIFTEEN) DOLLARS PER HOUR

[Anonymous No.9376225]

Bottom line is that OP is a pathetic, spiteful adult that still works at McDonald's to get by.

Also, in any restaurant where you either work on the line or your own station, you don't start cleaning before service is completed.

t. line cook

[Anonymous No.9376226]

>>9376206
It's not about any specific subsector. If a business cannot survive by paying its employees an adequate wage, that business is arguably unnecessary, by which I mean it contributes nothing else to the economy at large and in fact by its very inefficiency is a net drag on economic growth

And so if you wish, let us look at these burger flippers. What purpose do these shitfood restaurants actually serve? What problem do they solve? If you need nutrients that can survive a nuclear war and so on, you can just buy energy bars from the Vitamin Shop or GNC or whatever. It is not enjoyable food, it's clear these places only exist to provide sustenance for the lower classes, and at a premium no less. What does a MacDonalds meal cost anyway? Five dollars? Eight perhaps once you add the HFCS and carrageenan slurry? With less nutrition than an energy bar or a scoop of meal replacement powder, and it traps people in these fake "MacJobs" that have to be supplemented with food stamps.

Why not dispense with such fake economic activity, which serves only to redirect resources into franchisees, and the patrons of such restaurants can more efficiently spend their money. Additionally, those workers can be reallocated into freelance or seasonal labor markets, or whatever.

Caring this much about the supposed well-being of fast food chains = welfare for businesses. Get rid of those inefficient businesses, I say.

[Anonymous No.9376231]

>>9372399
>14 minutes until close
>fryers cleaned and turned off
Why are fryers cleaned and turned off 14 minutes before you close?

[Anonymous No.9376234]

>>9376186
>closing time at 1
>they all leave at 3 A.M.
>we are happy
Things that never happened: the festival.

[Anonymous No.9376242]

>>9376234
I get paid per hour dipshit. It's a bar, not an applebees.

[Anonymous No.9376282]

>>9376226

Minimum wage IS liveable

[Anonymous No.9376294]

>>9376282
You can parrot all the talking points you want but at the end of the day your business model is perma fucked. You've been abandoned by the middle class, and even poor people are starting to be disgusted by your shit, which is why "health" branded poor people stores like TJ's have been exploding recently. Even if they don't necessarily offer genuine health, it's a sign that modern culture is in a full-scale top to bottom revolt against MacDonalds and other shitfood customs. Literally the only way you can survive is on federally subsidized workers, where you pay a fraction of their wages and taxpayers pick up the difference.

No one likes you. Not your product, not your business model, not you. If I were you I would foist off those franchises on someone even more gullible, while you still can.

[Anonymous No.9376298]

>>9372399
You are open to serve customers until the goddamn close time on your door. You clean before that time at your own fucking risk. Don't like it? Too bad. If I want to waltz in at 1 minute to close and order one of everything on the menu I will and you'll fucking make it or I'll have your job you uppity little shit.

Know your goddamn place. I used to work food service and we didn't start cleaning until we were closed. We'd shut down half our ovens/fryers 2 hours to close unless it was super busy and work on dishes/pots/pans but we didn't touch the ovens, 2nd fryer, or prep stations until AFTER CLOSE.

Don't like it? Get the fuck out of the service industry.

[Anonymous No.9376300]

dont start cleaning up before closing time
i show up to five guys all the time
and if you tamper with my food ill see it and get you fired

[Anonymous No.9376301]

>>9376298
You sound pretty entitled, anon.

[Anonymous No.9376303]

As long as you get paid overtime, I don't see the problem.

[Anonymous No.9376308]

>>9376301
You sound pretty ignorant, cuck

[Anonymous No.9376334]

If your workers' shift ends at 1AM, then your closing time should be at midnight. Any workplace that doesn't count the closing/cleaning/money-counting/etc. time as part of the regular shift should be burned down.

[Anonymous No.9376339]

>>9372399
Your shift doesn't end right when the restaurant closes, Pedro. Do your work.

[Anonymous No.9376605]

>>9372698
I'm in Europe and of all the McDonalds and burger kings in my city only one is 24 hours. It's basically empty during the day but absolutely packed after dark

[Anonymous No.9376626]

>>9373897
Fuck you I work from 5pm to 2 am and I want my FUCKING BURGER do you understand

[Anonymous No.9376809]

>>9373076
>successful people
>eating McDonalds

[Anonymous No.9376918]

>>9374967
>baga
>not baagaa as it would be in katakana

[Anonymous No.9376975]

>>9373232
>close at 9.30
>pay employers to be there to 10.00 to clean up, close
Yes

[Anonymous No.9377077]

>>9372399
I've never been to a place where they turn everything off BEFORE closing time. I think you are a NEET who has never worked in a shitty food joint before. You always have like 1-2 hours after closing to shit things down and clean the entire god damn place. It sucks balls.

[Anonymous No.9377253]

>>9375504
Nice moving of the goalposts, lad. Try working a job before you come off as an authority on variable costs.

[Anonymous No.9377279]

>>9372399
>Going to a McDonald's that doesn't have 24 hours service
Looking at the misery in the eyes of the poor fuck making my burger at 4 am on a Monday is the best part, I bet his shift is over. Ut they are making him Saturday extra time just so I can have my burger because they couldn't get anyone else to work that night

[Anonymous No.9377299]

>>9376186
>Go to local bar with a friend for a few beers
>Place is empty, pretty much just us and the staff there who are having drinks at a table
>They give us excellent service
>They start closing the place
>They tell us not to worry about it that we can stay and finish our drinks since they aren't in a hurry and still haveto close the kitchen and stuff
I never was treated so nicely at a restaurant let alone a bar before

[Anonymous No.9377306]

>>9376300
People in pretty much any service job where the store has to be clean and prepared for the next opening have to begin closing before actually closing time. It's impossible to get it done in the time they might have within the constraints the company wants you to get it done. And it usually works 90% of the time so there's not much incentive to change it by the company for the occasional instance of a customer coming in close to closing.

[Anonymous No.9377335]

>>9374641
That's not how that works

[Anonymous No.9377383]

>tfw work in fast food
>some guy comes in a suit, wanting some burgers like 2 mins from closing.
>new guy timmy adds his special sauce to the burger sauce
>watch person consume the seed of another man.

not gonna lie, seen it happen dozens of times, hope you guys enjoy the extra protein content in your burgers, it's more likely than you think.

[Anonymous No.9377395]

>>9372539
You're talking like someone who gets a salary not someone working for damn near minimum wage at the only shitdonalds I've ever heard of that fucking closes

[Anonymous No.9377412]

>>9372399
If this is really true, kill yourself. If not, I hope you die a slow painful death so horrible that your cunt mother feels it.

[Anonymous No.9377414]

>>9372399
>not leaving 1 grill and 1 fryer for that inevitable last minute order
fucking amateur

[Anonymous No.9377417]

>>9372399
why would you clean and shut everything down before your business stops offering use of the equipment?

[Anonymous No.9377421]

>>9372399
Since when do McDonald's close?

[Anonymous No.9377427]

>drunk as fuck
>crave burgers
>walk into mcdonalds
>"we are closing in 20 minutes"
>ok, I do not see what the problem is.
>"we are understaffed so we cannot prepare new burgers"
>ok, give me the ones that have been prepared
>"they have been laying for 15 minutes, we cannot serve"
>walk into the toilet, force fingers down my throat miss the toilet on purpose, wash hands and piss in the sink
>walk out the establishment and buy some hotdogs at the local gas station

Never have I enjoyed snus and hotdogs that much in my entire life

[Anonymous No.9377453]

>>9376809
>billionaire president of the united states
>not successful

[Anonymous No.9377483]

>>9372399
>McDonalds
>closing
Geez, where do you come from?

[Anonymous No.9377576]

>>9377427
heh

[Anonymous No.9377606]

>>9372539
This is why we need trump, he'll kick people like you into the curb.

[Anonymous No.9377613]

>>9372539
>If the store closes at 1:00 im going to be home by 1:15. Max
That's not what it says when you signed to accept the job offer.
You're a shit employee.

[Anonymous No.9377629]

>>9372556
Triggered faggot
>but muh chicken mcnuggets

[Anonymous No.9377635]

>>9372399
>If you try to pull this stunt there is a 110% you WILL have your food tempered with
I worked fast food, and that's an immediate fire, no reference, and potential for criminal charges if the customer finds out.
LARP as something else, anon.

[Anonymous No.9377653]

>>9372399
>waaaaa I don't want to work anymore 20 mins before closing time
You're open till a certain time, you're serving till a certain time. Clean your shit AFTER closing shop, you dunce.

[Anonymous No.9377667]

If the greedy owner refuses to pay overtime (which would be typical in the US), then fuck'em and get your cleaning done so you can close at the end of your shift on the dot. Owner doesn't like it? Fuck it, he can do the cleaning.

[[e-mail] No.9377993]

>>9372399
>customer walks in
>orders burger with no pickles/onions
>want to spit in their food but I can't, their custom order tells me their bloodline is weak and they can't handle it
>put single grain of salt on their sandwich instead
>watch their skin dry out and crack the moment they take a bite

[Anonymous No.9378006]

>>9377667
>which would be typical in the US
Americans work a shit ton of overtime hours

[Anonymous No.9378029]

If a restaurant never closes then how do they clean up their shit?

[Anonymous No.9378056]

>>9378029
they don't

[Anonymous No.9378094]

>>9372399
If you are unable to serve your guests, you should tell them so?

[Anonymous No.9379057]

>>9373313
no, you don't close and then go home.

you close and then clean up and then go home.

the spoiled fucking lazy brats arguing otherwise just have completely shitty work ethics and they don't deserve to work with food.

[Anonymous No.9379063]

>>9372556
Expandable trash? That sounds like a serious landfill problem..

[Anonymous No.9379070]

>>9373230
>>9373497
Brilliant.

If everyone started doing this, these threads wouldn't exist because tampering with food would be almost unthinkable.

Teaching these lowlife fuckheads a good lesson. They obviously need it.

[Anonymous No.9379085]

>>9373589
People need to be taught.

If they continue to get away with the attitudes they currently have, and apparently think is okay, then it's worth a few bucks for the good of the many.

It's called food service. Not food privilege, but service. Those that work in this business are SERVANTS.

They're just mad about that fact which is ironic because it's their own fault,100%.

[Anonymous No.9379088]

>>9374686
topkek

[Anonymous No.9379104]

>>9376017
Restaurant worker=customer's bitch

you're welcome for being employed, bitch

I'm king here.

[Anonymous No.9379296]

Used to work in a deli. After thoroughly cleaning the slicers u always get assholes who want something cut and you can't refuse because you'll be reprimanded.

We usually just gave the slicer a super fast wipe down afterward and the morning shift people probably ly realized some asshole wantee cold cuts 5 min before ckosing

[Anonymous No.9379379]

>>9372399
>14 minutes
>half of half an hour
>turning equipment off before the fucking business closes
i'll enjoy my fucking spitburgers while you wagecuck faggots are forced to prepare it

[Anonymous No.9379389]

>>9379104
>kings consume the bodily fluids of their subjects

[Anonymous No.9379411]

>>9372556
>>9372745
>>9377395
>>9377606
>>9377613
Most places do this. Don't blame the workers, talk to higher managment.

[Anonymous No.9379454]

>>9379389
>king also drinks the blood of his insubordinate workers while the honest hardworking ones reap rewards, like better jobs, higher pay.

This is why you'll always be a servant, a peon, a little bitch. And eventually, you will get burned to the ground.

[Anonymous No.9379456]

>>9379454
>eats fast food
>better jobs, higher pay.

[Anonymous No.9379458]

>>9377667
>>9378006
Yep, and unless they work in agriculture, overtime pay is law, same as federal minimum wage.

Dipshit is simply spouting shit he obviously hasn't a clue about.

[Anonymous No.9379459]

>this many replies
>No one pointing out that McDonald's are 24/7

[Anonymous No.9379462]

>>9379459
They aren't though?

[Anonymous No.9379469]

10:04pm
>"Hi, a table for two please"
Hi guys, sorry, we're closed.
>"Uh, what?"
We close at 10pm.
>"Oh.... so like FOUR MINUTES???"
Yes, we close at 10.
>"Okay, I guess that's how you do business."
Yes, we close at 10.
>"My friend here is from Costa Rica and he wants to try Chicago Pizza on his visit."
Sorry, we closed at 10.
>"OH SURE, IT'S ONLY A FRIDAY NIGHT"
Yes we close at 10pm every day.
>"I GUESS THAT'S JUST HOW YOU DO BUSINESS"
Yes we close at 10.
>"I told him you guys are just chain bullshit so I guess we will just order delivery I like it better anyway like I told him"
okay
>"I GUESS THAT'S HOW YOU DO BUSINESS"
yes we are closed

[Anonymous No.9379474]

>>9379456

Could be any restaurant; including, but not limited to fast food, customer is still king, servant is still bitch.

Stop being so butthurt. If you don't like being where you are then try taking some personal responsibility and dragging your sorry ass out of the hole you've put yourself in.

Wanna know something else? I don't tip either. You make a fair wage for what you do and your subpar skill set.

[Anonymous No.9379486]

>>9379474
You are wrong. When the shift is over, no one is getting paid. People dont work for free. Quit being an entitled little bitch

[Anonymous No.9379498]

>>9372399
>mcdonalds
>close
wut

[Anonymous No.9379499]

>>9373037
Still, not closed is not closed.

You close the place up at a certain time, and then do your cleaning, and then go home. Not decide to clean BEFORE closing, and then throw a temper tantrum when a customer walks into your STILL OPEN business and asks for the employee to do his goddamned job.

End of fucking story.

[Anonymous No.9379508]

>>9376308
Youre a faggot ass bitch. I bet you get spit and cum in your food all the time

[Anonymous No.9379509]

>>9379070
>calling the people who make the food you crave and pay for possible lowlifes
You're a piece of shit my dude
t. Guy who has never worked in fast food

[Anonymous No.9379519]

>>9379509
It's the mental illness of people who never had to work a customer service job, or who did, and now want to be the abuser. It's cyclical. The people who are worse to CS employee's are always former waiters and cashiers and shit themselves.

[Anonymous No.9379522]

>>9373434
>but that's the job

This. Shit sucks, but that's the job. Can't handle that? Don't have that job, amirite? Nobody has ever put a gun to anyone's head and forced them into this work. A person actually has to ask and apply for a job. They can just as easily choose not to.

[Anonymous No.9379527]

>>9379469
I know this feel all too well.

I remember once, I was setting up a special corporate breakfast in our hotel, for a group. They had paid for this meal, and the meeting room. So, y'know.

We did have regular breakfast, but it was for purchase, and not for an hour or so. We were still setting up.

So of COURSE this trucker wanders into the meeting room which is seperate from the dining area and starts grazing.

"Oh, sir, i'm sorry, are you part of X group?"
"Huh? Oh, no. I thought this was breakfast."
"No sir i'm very sorry, this is for X Group"
"Oh well, can you guys make something in the kitchen for us? we gotta head out soon"
"I'm sorry sir, our breakfast hours are 6 - 10 am."
"So you can't do anything for us?"
"I'm sorry sir."
"You know this is the MOST unhelpful hotel I have ever been to!"

Then he stormed off and tried to tell the desk rep (who was my co-worker, who knew he was full of shit) that I yelled at him.

Was always funny, everyone always assumed Juan was my boss cause he was a sharp dressed professional looking guy and I was the one in the apron slinging eggs but I was the one who trained him on audit and had seniority.

[Anonymous No.9379531]

>>9373485
Between 20-30, sometimes a few more

Wasn't really bait, but whatever. I really don't care all that much, I just hate to see people resent the wrong people and the wrong things when it's really their own shortcomings that landed them the shitty situation they're in. And they're generally too ignorant to even realize it.

[Anonymous No.9379533]

>>9374408
Then just quit your job since you're obviously incapable of taking care of your responsibilities and doing your duty....just stay home permanently, problem solved...for everyone.

[Anonymous No.9379538]

You guys are fucking idiots. If the employer doesnt want to pay the employee to stay late and clean, why is the fault on the employee to stay past his paid shift and clean or serve or whatever? Direct your entitled rage towards the employer. Better yet, go buy food from shitty fast food places at a reasonable time, not after peoples shifts are done and they ar no longer being compensated.

[Anonymous No.9379539]

Boys please relax

[Anonymous No.9379540]

Having worked in service, I try not to make the kitchens life difficult. I feel like 30 minutes is enough time before close though? I rolled into a place at 11:25ish once and they were supposed to close at midnight, the guy behind the counter looked at me with these terrified eyes as I got out my wallet.

"Uh..."

"oh, sorry, are you guys closed?" I asked, knowing they weren't. He looked back at his co-worker

"Yeah we closed"

"Oh, shit, sorry".

And then I left. It was frustrating and I was a little ass burned about it but I got on with my fucking life, and I can sympathize even if I don't agree.

Shit happening right at the end of your shift is the worst but you deal with it. Least the company has to pay me for it. Many in the industry won't have that attitude though, because it's a field for the lowest denominator that still expects/demands a lot out of you. Because they want to keep costs low, which means shit pay for what you do. Food Service does more work and makes less than practically any other field, and while it can be piss easy and simple, sometimes it actually requires some skill and know-how if you're doing real cooking. That's why there's such high turn over.

I remember reading in some corp magazine once about groceries, and this guy in an interview said, "you know, we expect the world out of our employee's, but we don't really PAY them like we do." Stuck with me because I was making minimum wage and dealing with heaps of shit (sometimes literally when people took dooks on the bathroom floor) at the time. My current job is so easy I feel guilty a lot of the time so I go out of my way to be helpful. I'm terrified people will figure out I spend like 5-6 hrs a night shitposting on 4chan

[Anonymous No.9379547]

>>9376298
You're absolutely correct

[Anonymous No.9379554]

>>9377253
Nobody's coming off as anything here except you being a massive flaming faggot for thinking that you are some kind of authority on variable costs

[Anonymous No.9379556]

I work in McDonald's. I cum in your burger. I don't give a fuck.

[Anonymous No.9379557]

>>9379411
Is higher management the ones "tempering" with the food?

No?

Okay then. Your point is invalid.

[Anonymous No.9379562]

>>9379486
The shift isn't over until it's over. Nobody said anything about working for free. Quit trying to win a debate by making shit up. Also as a paying customer I quite literally am entitled to what I payed for.

You sound like an adolescent brat.

[Anonymous No.9379563]

>>9379519
Not really abuse when the person who has that CS job is incompetent and can't deal with the basic responsibilities of their job, such as NOT deciding that they can stop doing their job whenever they feel like.

Look, this isn't rocket science.

[Anonymous No.9379570]

>>9379563
Expecting someone to do their job is fine, but expecting someone to stay an hour or more after work to fulfill last minute orders is not a reasonable expectation. And the law of reciprocation dictates we treat others how we'd want to be treated.

[Anonymous No.9379571]

>>9379538
If their shift is done then the restaurant has already had it's doors closed and then everything got cleaned up and put away.

How the fuck did a cutomer get in there AFTER the shift was over?

It's like you're not even thinking this through.

[Anonymous No.9379574]

>>9379562
A shift is over when the timeclock says its over. Thats how wages work. Heres a tip, nobody really cares about you, and you are not important like you think you are. The world revolves around money. Just like when you say that you are entitled to what you pay for, same goes for the employee who is no longer being compensated who is entitled to his or her free time. It works both ways, faggot

[Anonymous No.9379576]

>>9379570
Again, simple shit here:

If the shift is over at 1:00, the restaurant closes at 12:00.

All problems here solved. People stop coming at 12:00, no last minute orders to keep someone past the end of the shift.

[Anonymous No.9379579]

>>9379574
See
>>9379576

I can't believe this is so difficult for you to grasp.

I hope you don't suck at life as bad as you do at understanding simple concepts and ideas.

[Anonymous No.9379583]

>I want this shrimp dish but can you tear the tails off the shrimp

can you shove a tampon up your ass?

[Anonymous No.9379585]

Arent most mcdonalds open into the night too

[Anonymous No.9379594]

>>9372539
bruh. wtf u goin do at 1am?

[Anonymous No.9379602]

>>9374967
damn where tf is this? it cheap af.

[Anonymous No.9379607]

>>9379602

>1/4lb for $7
>Cheap

no

[Anonymous No.9380040]

>guy calls to order a pizza 15 minutes before close
>other drivers balk at the prospect
>I agree to deliver it because who gives a shit what are you doing that's so important you can't deliver a pizza on the way home
>$20 tip

I don't know why people are so whiney about doing their jobs.

[Anonymous No.9380064]

>>9372399
>Close
>McDonalds

[Anonymous No.9380067]

>>9372556
Someones never worked in the food industry before

[Anonymous No.9380075]

>>9379499
Its almost as if you've never worked at a restaurant before

[Anonymous No.9380197]

>>9380064
Believe it or not, a lot of McDonald's are not-24 hour ones, especially when you get away from large cities.

[Anonymous No.9380216]

>>9380197
I suppose that makes sense that more rural mcdonalds may not have 24 hours McDonalds. The McDonalds near me are both near other stores that are regularly open 24 hours as well.

[Anonymous No.9380338]

>>9380067
>>9380075
I like how you guys think this is some kind of justification for your shit work ethic and your snowflakes' attitudes...

It shows how small of a person you actually are.

Not to mention that it's a shit argument, if it could be considered an argument at all.

[Anonymous No.9380482]

I hope you wagecucks are all replaced by robots. I used to support 15$ minimum wage and tipping until I read threads like this

[Anonymous No.9380489]

>>9372399
>Cleaning before you close
And that kind of thinking is why you are stuck behind the fryer.

[Anonymous No.9380526]

>>9380482
Don't even need to read threads made by wageshits to know they don't deserve fifteen an hour. Just go to McDonald's occasionally and you'll figure out they're all fucking retarded. I don't even eat fast food that often - maybe once a week at most - and yet even with that limited sample I've had my order completely fucked up more times than I remember. Entire sandwiches left out of the bag. Forgotten the hashbrown with a breakfast meal. Forgot to give me my fucking drink on a simple quarter pounder meal. I don't even know how these people tie their shoes. I can understand fucking up complicated and unusual orders but these high school dropouts manage to screw up the absolute most mundane, regular, everyday orders with amazing predictability. And they want fifteen dollars an hour to do it. The day they get that is the day I give up fast food.

[Anonymous No.9380531]

>>9380040
Simply put, because they are lazy as fuck, and want everything in life to be handed to them for free. Literally think they're entitled to something...

>just described niggers

[Anonymous No.9380534]

>>9380067
>>9380075
If you don't like the fucking job requirements then quit you infantile losers

[Anonymous No.9380547]

>>9380526
Pro-tip, the higher the job pays the more in demand it is, meaning that the applicant pool contains more desirable employees, meaning that the employer wants to hire the best employees to not waste money training people who would quit in months or get fired due to incompetence, all meaning that your McDonalds workers will be like Chick-fil-A workers

[Anonymous No.9380557]

>>9380526
I just don't ever see $15 working out. For anyone. I'm certainly not going to be a customer of those places, the food isn't worth what they charge now, and will be worth even less when they hike the prices so they can stay afloat. Which, in turn, is going to shy customers away, and considering that the majority fast food's main customers are in fact poor, it won't be long before they don't have any business at all.

Smart and wealthy people didn't get that way by spending money on shit that barely passes as food. Rich people are generally the most frugal people there are. The ones flaunting "wealth" are up to their ears in debt. Quite the opposite of wealth.

$15/hour isn't feasible for shit fastfood joints, like McDick's.

[Anonymous No.9380565]

i dont like anyones attitude in this shitty thread. Hopefully all you fast food and service workers in here hate your job and keep spitting, ejaculating, etc. in all the successful (entitled) know it all folks here who insist that everyone is their "bitch". Its my hope here that everyone involved comes down with a bad case of salmonella and/or e.coli and eats shit hard. fuck fast food and fuck the rest of you assholes. your attitudes are completely rotten and im disguisted with myself for posting on this website. i hope you all die. reply to this post or your mother will die in her sleep tonight. no immunity animal

[Anonymous No.9380568]

>>9380547
Lol, okay. You think college graduates are going to start working at McDonald's because it pays better than an internship?

[Anonymous No.9380569]

>>9380557
>but if we raise the minimum wage, useless parasite enterprises that survive on indirect wage subsidies might go away!
Why do I get the feeling you think that's somehow a bad thing, anon?

[Anonymous No.9380570]

>>9380547
Fast food workers are fast food workers.

Fucking monkeys, nothing more.

The name on the door means nothing.

[Anonymous No.9380576]

>>9380569
Well, when you put it that way...
I wouldn't lose any sleep if McDonald's went out of business. It would probably be for the best anyway. It's shit food served by shit people.

[Anonymous No.9380577]

>>9380568
No dipshit, the sizable part of the population who are low skill/ low education but actually want to work and need a job

[Anonymous No.9380589]

>>9380565
Since when does successful mean entitled?

The entitled people here are the ones that think they deserve something for nothing, i.e. all the food servants in here who believe they are somehow above the rest of the world's workforce.

Gotta start somewhere, fast food is the bottom of the ladder. Either climb, or get the fuck out of the way for those who are able and willing.

[Anonymous No.9380598]

>>9373904
Preach. If a customer is a total douche, don't serve him. Fucking with the food someone bought is wrong.

[Anonymous No.9380606]

>>9380577
all 100 of them, the exact people who made this thread complaining about having to work until their work is done

[Anonymous No.9380623]

>>9380606
Well if the $15 wage hike happens they can either shape up or ship out. $15/hr is a sizable salary for low SES folks, people will want that job and more importantly want to keep that job. Low turnover, highly motivated employees. It just makes sense.

[Anonymous No.9380634]

>>9380569

>If we raise the minimum wage, useless parasite enterprises go away, causing people to lose jobs, which causes them to lose their livelihood (or at least whatever livelihood they could've made at the old minimum), which was the entire point of raising minimum wage, making the effort moot

Thinking is hard

[Anonymous No.9380635]

>his McDonald's closes
>ever
Must suck living in the third world.

[Anonymous No.9380646]

>>9375424
>http://corporate.mcdonalds.com/mcd/corporate_careers/training_and_development/hamburger_university.html
Ebin

[Anonymous No.9380652]

>>9380634
Yes as we all know once you've lost a job you'll never work again, and when a business goes bankrupt the owner dies and the senior management gets executed on the spot by the SEC so that they can never again start a business and apply lessons learned to their future endeavors. The best thing would be to continue to subsidize these unsustainable businesses by continuing to shovel cheap labor at them, subsidized by taxpayers.

[Anonymous No.9380655]

>>9380623
>It just makes sense.
Having motivated employees certainly makes sense.

Making entry-level jobs illegal via minimum wage hikes does not.

[Anonymous No.9380663]

>>9380652
>Yes as we all know once you've lost a job you'll never work again

when everyone is making $15/hr, it gets very difficult to get a job because now businesses are being a lot more selective. and those businesses that WERE paying $15/hr,now have to adjust.

Why work 80 hours a week stacking bricks when I can make the same at mcdonalds in air conditioning?


oh wait I can't, because McD's is employing machines to do all the work anyway in response to this $15/hr shit so nobody has to be there, hurting employment across the board, thanks asshole

[Anonymous No.9380672]

>>9372556
This is the only correct response in this thread.

[Anonymous No.9380686]

>>9380663
>it gets very difficult to get a job because now businesses are being a lot more selective. and those businesses that WERE paying $15/hr,now have to adjust.

Yes, it's called "restructuring", and it happens any time there's a shift in technology. We've been dealing with this for centuries, anon.

>oh wait I can't, because McD's is employing machines to do all the work anyway in response to this $15/hr shit so nobody has to be there, hurting employment across the board, thanks asshole

Seems to me you're making an argument for inefficient economic activity for the sake of "make work programs".

I am not totally against "make work programs" but if we're going down that road let's do something useful, not shovel HFCS and pink slime down the throats of poor people. Like, build bridges extremely inefficiently. Or lay down more fiber optic line. We can use humans to dig, with shovels and picks, instead of proper digging machines. Then the real work can still be done with skilled labor.

[Anonymous No.9380689]

>>9380663
>when the minimum wage is $15 we will lose jobs
>when the minimum wage is $7.25 we will lose jobs
>when the minimum wage is $3.80 we will lose jobs
>when the minimum wage is $.40 we will lose jobs
>establishing a minimum wage will make us lose jobs
Come on

[Anonymous No.9380695]

>>9380623
>Low turnover, highly motivated employees. It just makes sense.
if it made sense you wouldn't need to government to use threat of force and violence to make it so

[Anonymous No.9380702]

>>9380655
If minimum wage goes up, should my pay not also go up? If minimum wage goes up, it devalues my own pay. Won't be long before monkeys who "work" at these places can earn what normal people do with absolutely no skills or anything. Why did I bother to even get educated? I coulda just flipped burgers and contributed nothing my entire life!

Imagine a nation filled with people that have no aspirations or ambition, want to blame it on YOU and then spit in your food.

[Anonymous No.9380703]

>>9380663
>hurting employment across the board
It doesn't hurt employment, it shifts it. It literally creates jobs for people who design and maintain those machines. It also creates business for the businesses which serve that industry. For example, I own a machine shop. My shop has made a lot of parts for vending machines, soda machines, and self-serve kiosks.

[Anonymous No.9380705]

>>9372399
That's why you leave a single grill on until after closing. I thought that would be common sense. But y'all don't seem to have that. And you want $15 an hour. Top kek.

[Anonymous No.9380708]

>>9380672
Keep reading. There's lots of logic in this thread but none of it comes from fast food fags

[Anonymous No.9380709]

>>9380689
it happened every time. There is literally no evidence at all that our country is currently better off than it would be if no minimum wage was enforced, and all economic learnign we have established suggests it is not

Believing in high minimum wages is the economic equivalent of being anti-vax or anti-GMO or a climate change denier, its straight up contrary to scientific evidence and based on simple wishful thinking and refusal to look at the science

[Anonymous No.9380717]

>>9380703
the whole point of automation is that it requires less labor, so while some of that labor is transferred to other, more skilled people, its a small fraction of the initial labor

[Anonymous No.9380718]

>>9380695
Explain yourself. I'm a burger, our government literally isn't allowed to do that. It's we the people for the people by the people and we have unalienable rights.

[Anonymous No.9380722]

>>9380718
I mean when paying employees more makes sense companies do it. Its none of the government's business how much people get paid

[Anonymous No.9380727]

>>9380705
Proud to be 'murrican, right?

My country and the people in it sometimes embarass me. American work ethic is now a joke, young people are at fault. Those same young people will someday be running the place.

We're all fucked.

[Anonymous No.9380731]

>>9380722
The government should keep their fingers out of our pockets, all of us. I'll give ya that.

[Anonymous No.9380732]

>>9380718
>our government literally isn't allowed to do that.
Fellow burger here.
What do you think would happen if a minimum wage law was passed an an employer refused to follow the law? The police would show up and arrest him. If the employer refused to comply with the police then they would use force to put him in handcuffs and drag him off to jail. If the employer resisted then who knows what kind of violence might be involved.

[Anonymous No.9380735]

>>9380717
Yes, but that lowers the cost of those resources and creates more opportunity there. It's not just the technicians who get jobs created. Think how many more seamstresses there were once we built machines that could make fabric. There is not one example in history where technological progress resulted in net job loss

[Anonymous No.9380738]

>>9372399
Why have you turned off and cleaned everything with 14 minutes until close? That would mean you started getting doing so at least 15 minutes beforehand, surely you should be doing this after closing time not 30 minutes before.

[Anonymous No.9380740]

>>9380702
Yeah, it should. Non-stupid people with bottom rung full-time jobs should be able to work their way through college, too. What are you afraid of? Getting a raise? When middle and lower class people have money, they fucking spend it. This creates jobs.

[Anonymous No.9380742]

>>9372399
>>9372539
If you get paid hourly, what's wrong with staying late? More hours = more $. I used to work a kitchen job in a bar and closing shifts were the best.
>last call @ 12:30am
>kick customers out @ 1am
>clean until the job is done
>leave whenever

It's like you don't know how to milk the clock. We'd work at half pace, watch tv, drink beers and smoke cigs. One of the managers straight up didn't give a fuck and would let us sit on our asses on the clock until 3am. Literally getting paid to fuck off.

[Anonymous No.9380743]

>>9380740
lower class people's propensity for spending their money is why they are lower class

[Anonymous No.9380744]

>>9380702
Raising the minimum wage has two functions which are related to costs of living. One, below a certain threshold, a person cannot make efficient microeconomic choices because day to day crises force bad long term spending habits. Additionally they are more likely to commit property crimes to make up the difference, or have children who experience the effects of early childhood malnutrition, reducing their future economic productivity and increasing their propensity to crime.

Two, certain state functions already exist to prevent desperation, namely the "social safety net" which is stressed much harder by people on incomes below the cost of living for that area. Forcing businesses to pay a higher minimum wage takes the load off the safety net which is in effect a wage subsidy for inefficient businesses.

The current situation is already unfair to some, the idea of raising the minimum wage is to reduce net unfairness although it may be resisted by some sectors particularly workers at the lower (but not absolute bottom) rung of the economic ladder, who currently feel that their prestige is contingent upon having a segment of society even poorer than they are. What can I say, tough shit, I guess.

[Anonymous No.9380746]

>>9380732
Minimum wage laws are a thing now and in the past, anon.

Let's not pretend that there aren't people who don't pay what the law says already.

Doesn't make any of it right, or okay.

Besides, this thread isn't really about minimum wage, its about lazy fucking asshole children spitting or jizing in your food because they don't wanna work that hard that close to closing time. Fucking lazy, spoiled rotten fucking children.

[Anonymous No.9380750]

>>9380740
I agree, it SHOULD.

But, it won't. Because that's reality.

[Anonymous No.9380752]

>>9380732
>The police would show up and arrest him
No, more likely there would be liens or fines or whatever, and the end game would be that they'd have to cease operations and shut down the business. At some point along the lines, if things are managed badly, maybe the marshall office padlocks the premises. But the police are not going to show up to the accounting department and make someone write a check at gunpoint.

[Anonymous No.9380759]

>>9380744
don't forget all the bottom tier people who will be out of jobs because people will no longer be able to afford their near worthless hours due to their lack of work ethic and skill and suddenly high price tag

[Anonymous No.9380763]

>>9380752
At some point there will be an arrest involved, using force, if the owner doesn't comply with whatever the law tells him or her to do.

If the court orders a fine and the owner doesn't pay then he will be held in contempt and arrested.

[Anonymous No.9380764]

>used to work at a bbq joint
>10-15 church people waiting outside the front doors 45 minutes before we unlock them
>they look like lost zombies waiting mindlessly for something to come by
>manager asks why I didn't let them in
>"...because we're not open yet."
>"Anon you should have let them in!"
>he lets them in and actually takes their fucking order
>kitchen staff asks me why a huge order just rolled in 30 mins before prep is done
>tell them manager did it
>they let the tickets sit for the half hour until we were supposed to open

[Anonymous No.9380765]

>people should be able to have kids at 18 and live in trendy Brooklyn neighborhoods on minimum wage because of 'fairness'

[Anonymous No.9380767]

>>9380752
How would they shut down the business if not with threat of violence?

[Anonymous No.9380769]

>>9380743
No, they buy the same things everybody else buys, dingleberry. But this time around, they buy them with money they earned instead of it coming from assistance programs which are disproportionately burdensome on the middle class. Holy shit, the wealthy people might make a few hundred thousand less per year, while regular people can buy groceries and pay rent!

[Anonymous No.9380770]

>>9380744
But when the minimum wage goes up, so does cost of living.

Remember when gasoline was under a buck a gallon and a pack of cigs was about $0.50? Yeah? You could rent a decent place to live in for a couple hundred bucks a month. What was minimum wage at the time?

What's gas now? What does rent for a decent place to live cost now? What's minimum wage now?

[Anonymous No.9380776]

>>9380759
Yes, and like I said if you are absolutely hell bent on creating make work programs (which is basically what these McDonalds type burger flipper jobs are), then let's do something TVA style, instead of just promoting malnutrition. We've got enough failing infrastructure to justify this, anon.

>>9380763
I'm not an attorney, but as far as I know if the owner doesn't want to pay a fine they can simply dissolve the company. Depending on the structure perhaps some of the liabilities may be passed directly to the owner but the idea that the police are going to drag someone off to jail just because they didn't pay a penalty seems a bit fantasist. There are many, many ways out of the problem you described, handcuffs would happen if you perhaps go on some kind of crazy Alex Jones rant and threaten a judge, maybe.

[Anonymous No.9380781]

>>9376282
Not everywhere. The city i live in rent on a shitty apartment costs 3.5 weeks of full time minimum wage per month. Good luck making ends meet with 3 days of pay a month left over.

[Anonymous No.9380782]

>>9380769
regular people already buy groceries and pay rent. Do not confuse bottom tier assholes on minimum wage with regular people. They are a small segment of leeches on society, they are just as far from being regular people as the ultra rich are

[Anonymous No.9380784]

>>9380769
No, they buy short term happiness in the forms of gambling, sex, drugs and alcohol and it's because people living with almost nothing are always stressed and depressed.

[Anonymous No.9380785]

all of my mickey d's are open 24 hours so this nigger behavior doesn't threaten me

[Anonymous No.9380788]

>>9380776
>instead of just promoting malnutrition
its not the government's job to promote certain foods in favor of others

[Anonymous No.9380791]

>>9380763
You, sir, are a complete moron.

[Anonymous No.9380792]

>>9380770
>What's gas now?
I wouldn't know, I haven't owned a cage since Bill Clinton was president. Consumer price index data can freely be downloaded from US government websites though

[Anonymous No.9380797]

>>9380769
>No, they buy the same things everybody else buys, dingleberry.

Except they don't. All the people I know who are perpetually broke waste money buying fast food every day, buy overpriced sodas and snacks from vending machines, and do dumb shit like spending their savings on vacations even though they don't have a current job. Some of them are quick to buy trendy clothes and expensive new cars. All of them, without fail, scrape pennies together to buy the latest and greatest smartphone whenever they come out.

The people I know who are wealthy cook for themselves. They eat leftovers for lunch instead of going out to eat. They don't go buy a brand new car because they one they have currently is perfectly sufficient. They don't buy a brand new Iphone 213 because their extant model 135 is sufficient. If they aren't currently employed they don't go blast their money on luxuries.

I believe that many, if not most, "poor people" are that way simply because they have poor spending habits.

[Anonymous No.9380798]

>>9380744
>setting a price floor above the market equilibrium price of unskilled labor

ISHIGGYDIGGY

[Anonymous No.9380799]

>>9379594
Dmt and fuck my dog

[Anonymous No.9380801]

>>9380792
You know damn well what I was getting at anon, don't play coy with me.

[Anonymous No.9380803]

>>9380788
>its not the government's job to promote certain foods in favor of others
Precisely. So why should McDonalds get wage subsidies? If they can't pay their employees adequately, maybe they shouldn't be in business.

[Anonymous No.9380804]

>>9380792
>>uses motorcycle lingo like "cage"
>>doesn't know the price of fuel
You're a real silly goose, anon.

[Anonymous No.9380806]

>>9380791
any time the government makes a law or creates a tax it is enforced under threat of violence
So any time you support a new law/tax, ask yourself if its enforcement through violence is moral

[Anonymous No.9380807]

>>9379458
>service industry
>actually paying overtime
Lel. Every restaurant I've ever worked at has had a time where everyone has to go clock out and if you're there for another hour or two to get the close squared away to the standard it needs to be then tough shit.

[Anonymous No.9380827]

>>9380798
>babby's first econ 101
I like how you are just pretending the social safety net exerts no pressure on that market equilibrium. The numbers on the payroll sheet are the only numbers that suit my argument, reeeee!

[Anonymous No.9380829]

>>9380806
And don't stop by asking if it's moral or not.

Also ask if you think it makes sense to spend taxpayer money to enforce said laws.

Ask yourself:
>>When someone breaks this law, am I OK with spending money to prosecute and incarcerate that person or do I think that money is better spent elsewhere".

[Anonymous No.9380832]

>>9380807
That makes you an idiot for working at a place that fucks you like that, and it's entirely YOUR fault because like it or not, you DO have the choice to go work elsewhere. If you did not go elsewhere, then you dropped the ball. It's your life. You call the shots. You failed. Sorry you're sore about it but that's life. Tough shit.

[Anonymous No.9380833]

>>9380727
That was actually the rule for when I worked at Whataburger. Now mind you, it only closed down on Christmas eve and when the people came to clean the store entirely, but it's like religion down here and people knew. So we always had one grill up and running up till we closed.

[Anonymous No.9380834]

>>9379474
>i don't tip either
Kitchen doesn't see a dime of tips anyway a lot of places, and even if they do it's generally something like 'kitchen shares 3%, anything above that the server gets'.

So if you tip 15% on a $100 bill at a restaurant, your server likely gets $12 at least and the whole kitchen share $3.

[Anonymous No.9380835]

>>9380806
>>9380767
>durr durr my seatbelt! muh freedom! am I being detained?

This is you, isn't it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYK_SfcZ6pc

[Anonymous No.9380839]

>>9380829
Why would anyone ever be okay with laws being made to take even more money away from us?

Bunch of us threw a big tea party over this kinda shit one time awhile back

[Anonymous No.9380842]

>>9380807
don't work for fucking shady employers then

[Anonymous No.9380848]

>>9380834
Yet another reason I shouldn't tip.

Thanks.

[Anonymous No.9380859]

>>9380835
Always love authoritarianism apologists, Trump/Bernie is the best!

[Anonymous No.9380863]

>>9380859
Sorry for being able to interact with authority figures without going off on autistic rants, anon

[Anonymous No.9380869]

>>9380863
What does authority figures have to do with anything? Politicians do not deserve your respect, Trump is a dick

[Anonymous No.9380870]

If the restaurant is open until 1:00am you should be scheduled until 1:30pm to close, this is simple logic.

[Anonymous No.9380876]

>>9372428
310

[Anonymous No.9380877]

>>9372399
what kind of backward ass mcdonalds closes?

[Anonymous No.9380889]

>>9372773
No. Ordering food when the restaurant is open and there are no standing rules governing when you can order is not unethical in the slightest.

If the customer is allowed by a business to order, they can order. If they shouldn't be allowed to order, the business should put rules in place.

You should be mad at your shitty establishment, not the customer.

[Anonymous No.9380892]

>>9380832
It's super common in the industry, ironically more so at higher end places because A) their closes are way more involved, and B) their margins tend to be smaller.

I actually don't really give much of a shit about it, i love my work and I'm ok putting some free hours in to make sure the kitchen stays immaculate, I'm just putting my 2 cents in.

[Anonymous No.9380894]

>>9380869
Stop trying to make everything you disagree with into "but Trump". Trump and his cult hate people like me. I'm brown, I went to university, I live in a city, I eat my vegetables and usually even enjoy them, and I vote democrat.

There's enough wrong with the guy that nobody needs to make up tinfoil garbage arguments about seatbelt laws and how fiat money is immoral implied violence. Unless your end game is to discredit the opposition, which wouldn't surprise me at all.

[Anonymous No.9380895]

>>9380870
It's a case of widespread worker exploitation by the business owners.

[Anonymous No.9380901]

>>9380894
There are authortarians and there are libertarians, pick a side

[Anonymous No.9380908]

>>9380827
The social safety net would exert downward pressure on the marginal cost of labor as workers would be willing to work for lower wages as their as some of their needs are met by big daddy government. Pic related

[Anonymous No.9380915]

>>9380869
Damn straight he's a dick. Pussies like you love getting fucked by dicks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cV_q-mVAAA

[Anonymous No.9380924]

>>9380892
I guess people who aren't cut out for it shouldn't do it.

I grew up on a farm. I know all about going the extra mile, literally working my ass off, sometimes for nothing but a loss entirely. 36 hours at a time at times. And it wasn't like easy work. We're talking digging, bucking bales, no bullshit actual WORK. There's no such thing as overtime pay, minimum wage or any of that shit on a farm. Often times it's piecework on a farm. You get paid X amount of cents per bale of hay you made, or X amount of dollars per bin of fruit picked. Not per hour.

I feel no sympathy for "overworked and underpaid" restaurant employees. They haven't a clue what real life actual hard work is.

[Anonymous No.9380928]

>>9380901
Thank you for your insights, Alex.
>>9380908
Marginal direct cost to the employer, you mean. And the costs are shared between the employer and taxpayers, so looking at payroll expenses misses the big picture. Raising the minimum wage causes the price line to shift closer to the value on the payroll sheets for the jobs that remain, and forces an overall market restructuring by causing businesses that required the wage subsidy to eliminate subsidized staff and possibly become insolvent.

[Anonymous No.9380931]

>>9380876
322

[Anonymous No.9380933]

>>9380895
We close at 10PM but I'm scheduled 'til at least 11PM every night because we start cleaning after we lock the doors. We don't "pre-clean" to try and get out earlier, who knows who is going to want to buy what before then?

[Anonymous No.9380936]

>>9380933
This is the way it should be.

Any business worth anything at all will feel the same about it.

[Anonymous No.9381183]

>>9372850
Restaurant name? I don't want to have fire shit when I buy some.

[Anonymous No.9381187]

>>9372980
Then you will be paying your employees a fuckton for overtime.

[Anonymous No.9381190]

>>9377383
>dozens of times
Just to clarify, is this by one guy or several who all cum really really quickly? Or did someone keep a bottle of semen in the fridge?

[Anonymous No.9381231]

>>9381187
only if you severely mismanage your scheduling

[Anonymous No.9381575]

>>9372503
Ur smart. I like you

[Anonymous No.9381620]

>>9372399
Bait or not, do you ever stop to think about all the reasons why fast food workers are paid minimum wage? Well, the OP told us half of the story.

[Anonymous No.9382061]

>>9380781
Not all cities are made for minimum wage people. Stop going into capital cities with no job prospects. Those fast food minimum wage jobs are for teenagers, young adults who are living in groups with others to split bills, and maybe bored housewives or husbands who just want income on the side.

[Anonymous No.9382179]

>5 minutes before closing
>Hi I'll take a small fry
>No salt
Laugh as wagies have to fire up those fryers again to put 10 french fries into the oil.

[Anonymous No.9382489]

>>9372399
worked 3 years at McDonalds. Worked up to Manager by 19.

I wish I could fire you. Like honestly you should just quit your job LOL. Holy shit. Like, why the fuck are you even working at a place that's outside your timeframe?

Too fucking trashy to get a decent job you fuckin neckbeard?

I remember plenty of little highschool turds who would complain about this. The mexican grandma cooks too.

[Anonymous No.9382633]

>>9374859
What does ethnicity have to do with what he said?