/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.9259532]

This takes way too long.

What's the fastest way to boil water?

[Anonymous No.9259535]

boil kettle first, then pour it in a hot pan
(do americucks have kettles?

[Anonymous No.9259536]

Watch it

[Anonymous No.9259539]

Just use a straw.

[Anonymous No.9259542]

>>9259532

Literally zero waiting.

[Anonymous No.9259558]

>>9259535
>The fastest way to boil water is to boil water

[Anonymous No.9259563]

>>9259558
What the fuck were you expecting lad, someone to give you Superman's phone number so he can come and laser eye it for you?

[Anonymous No.9259565]

Electric kettle on British power outlet: ~1min

Electric kettle on American power outlet: ~4min
"Turbo Boil" stovetop: ~4min

Stovetop: ~11min

[Anonymous No.9259566]

>>9259532
Get an electric kettle. Takes less than a minute, unless you live in Denver or some other high altitude area.

[Anonymous No.9259571]

>>9259565

Your times make no sense. An American electric kettle is slightly more than half the power of a British one. Therefore it should be roughly double the time, not 4x.

It's also kind of stupid to give times without specifying volume.

Regardless, the Japs have everyone beat. See >>9259542

[Anonymous No.9259574]

>>9259563
My sides.

[Anonymous No.9259579]

>>9259558
please view >>9259565

[Anonymous No.9259580]

>>9259532

[Anonymous No.9259582]

>>9259579

I did. It's obviously incorrect as >>9259571
explained.

[Anonymous No.9259583]

>>9259532
Get a boiling water rap.

[Anonymous No.9259587]

>>9259571
>>9259542
Those still take time to boil ya dingus, and Jap outlets have even less power than American outlets.
They're not faster to boil, they just keep water hot all day.

>>9259582
If you'd like to boil by all four methods and compare times with me go ahead, but I can only tell you my own personal experiences.

[Anonymous No.9259597]

>>9259532
>2017
>he doesn't have a nuclear reactor to boil water with

[Anonymous No.9259599]

>>9259583
*tap desu

[Anonymous No.9259602]

>>9259587
>Those still take time to boil ya dingus, and Jap outlets have even less power than American outlets.
>They're not faster to boil, they just keep water hot all day.

They keep the water just two degrees less than boiling. Thus it takes only a couple seconds to get it to a full boil. Therefore, if you were in a hurry to get boiling water there is literally nothing faster, except >>9259583 which is the same damn thing, just located under your sink instead of on the countertop.

>> but I can only tell you my own personal experiences.
I can tell from simple mathematics that there is something wrong with the data you're reporting. There's something missing--either you're comparing different volumes, your timing is inaccurate, or there's some other source of error. It's easy to compare US vs UK electric kettles on Amazon and see the difference in power. That doesn't match your results, therefore you must have some other inconsistency present.

[Anonymous No.9259607]

>>9259571

>Your times make no sense. An American electric kettle is slightly more than half the power of a British one. Therefore it should be roughly double the time, not 4x.

according to what fucking rule you illiterate mong

[Anonymous No.9259612]

>>9259602
>either you're comparing different volumes
Same volume every time. Enough water for three or four cuppas.

>your timing is inaccurate
Timing was not exact, hence the tilde, but those are the averages.

You looking at amazon doesn't retroactively alter my experiences.

[Anonymous No.9259616]

>>9259532
Reduce the air pressure in your home to near vacuum levels.

[Anonymous No.9259617]

>>9259607
>according to what fucking rule you illiterate mong

It's pretty simple, really. In the UK the standard household outlet is 240 volt. In the USA it's 120 volt. Both with a 20 amp breaker.

Since power = volts x amps you can get twice the power from a British circuit before tripping the breaker compared to an American one.

You can easily confirm this by looking at specs of electric kettles online. The USA models are rarely over 2000 watts. The 240 volt models are usually over 3000 watts.

[Anonymous No.9259620]

I own and operate a small family business that I needn't describe. Because of this, however, I have an extremely large vacuum pump located a mere 50 metres from my kitchen. I have a void tank connected to the kitchen with fittings to a slightly modified pot lid, and can boil a large pot of water in half a minute or less. I have never actually done this in the kitchen though, as that is retarded.

[Anonymous No.9259626]

>>9259612
>Same volume every time. Enough water for three or four cuppas.

So what was it? "Three or four" doesn't give me much confidence in your precision.

>> but those are the averages.
What was your standard deviation?

>>You looking at amazon doesn't retroactively alter my experiences.
Correct. But it does cast doubt on the accuracy of what you are reporting. So do many other factors, like you not specifying what make/model of kettle you compared, and you assuming that all stovetops cook the same.

You're reporting either utter bullshit at worst, or really sloppy "science" at best. Neither is trustworthy.

[Anonymous No.9259627]

>>9259617

that wasn't the part of the calculation i was disputing.

[Anonymous No.9259633]

>>9259627

Well, if the American kettle has roughly half the power of the UK one then it should take roughly twice as long to achieve the same heating.

Of course whether it's exactly half the power or a little more/less than half would depend on precisely what brand and model we're comparing.

[Anonymous No.9259636]

>>9259633

>Well, if the American kettle has roughly half the power of the UK one then it should take roughly twice as long to achieve the same heating.

according to what rule

[Anonymous No.9259647]

>>9259583
I went to my uncles house when I was five years old. He had a whole separate sink in his giant kitchen for the bwt, because I was a retarded kid and didn't know what it was I thought it was a normal sink and turned it on burned myself, tried to "adjust the temperature" and burned myself at least two more times.

[Anonymous No.9259653]

>>9259626
> like you not specifying what make/model of kettle you compared
Why would I specify? the times are averaged out from dozens of kettles.
What kind of sperg knows the model name of an individual kettle, nevermind dozens across the globe?

I see a whole lot of autism and not one bit of counterpoint.
Boil your own kettle and get back to me on your times if you care so much, in the meantime I will continue to offer practical advice from personal experience.

[Anonymous No.9259654]

>>9259636

Basic physics anon. Water boils when you put enough energy into it to raise its temperature to the boiling point. If you are inputting that energy at half the rate it takes twice as long to reach the same total.

[Anonymous No.9259670]

>>9259532
can't believe no one said it yet
if you are boiling in a pot on the stove, use a lid
that will keep a lot of heat from escaping, faster boiling
pretty much the only way to speed it up on the stove top

>or use a bunch of souffle torches and hit torch the pot while heating your water

[Anonymous No.9259671]

>>9259636
Ohms Law and Power Law, anon.
You should do some research.

[Anonymous No.9259690]

Bunch of retards in this thread

Just pre-boil a couple of gallons of water at the beginning of the week and freeze it.

[Anonymous No.9259695]

Heat the water in a really powerful 3000W electric kettle or heat it on an induction stove. If that is still too slow stick in an additional immersion heater.

[Anonymous No.9259699]

>>9259670
Are there really people who boil water without the lid?!

[Jordan !Jordan.UwQ No.9259703]

>>9259532
Just boil a few gallons at the start of the week then save it for later

[Anonymous No.9259704]

>>9259670
>can't believe no one said it yet

no one said it yet because its so obvious it doesn't need to be repeated.

[Anonymous No.9259712]

>>9259699
>>9259704
I bet half the neets in this thread dont even have lids for their shitty flea market second-hand pawn shop pots.

[Anonymous No.9259731]

>>9259699
>>9259704
Half this board is 'wife cooking' and the other half is fatty-eating-habit shaming.
How many do you think know how to cook efficiently around here?

[Anonymous No.9259740]

>>9259690
Might as well just buy pre-boiled water.

[Anonymous No.9259789]

>>9259636
The rule of simple maths, you mong: if the energy required to bring the water to a boil is Q = PT, where P = power and T = time, P and T are inversely proportional if Q is constant (for the same mass of water, that is).

[Anonymous No.9259801]

>>9259789
Sure, but what if American houses had a higher ambient temperature, or British houses were pressurized at twice the pressure of an American house?

[Anonymous No.9259828]

>>9259801

both notions are absurd, at least to any agree which would matter.

[Anonymous No.9259829]

>>9259789
You're a fucking idiot. Your high school physics equation does not take ambient air temperature into account as >>9259801 has pointed out. Moreover, you also need to account for elevation. It's obvious that you have never done any real world tasks outside of your physics book and TI-84.

[Anonymous No.9259842]

>>9259789

it's simple to the point of being simplistic.

[Anonymous No.9259859]

>>9259740
pre-boiled from the store will never be as good as home-boiled.

[Anonymous No.9259862]

>>9259829

Ambient air temperature, and elevation, affect the results so little that it doesn't matter. Remember, the original claim was "roughly".

[Anonymous No.9259863]

>>9259859
kek

[Anonymous No.9259873]

>>9259828
>both notions are absurd

Are they though? A house with shitty single glazing in Scarborough in the dead of winter could be as cold as <10C ambient, while a house in the south of Florida could easily be >40C ambient. That's actually a huge difference, and would very much affect the result.

[Anonymous No.9259949]

>>9259873
That's still negligible. The reason is that the act of boiling the water requires far far more energy than simply heating it up.

Let's say we're dealing with 1 liter of water. First we have to get it to 100C (4.2 J/g), then we have to boil it (2257 J/g)

So, in Scarbourough we have to raise the water temp 90 degrees: 90 x 4.2 x 1000 = 378 kJ. Then we have to boil it. That's another 2257 x 1000 = 2,257 kJ. Total we have 2635 kJ.

In Florida we're only heating by 60 degrees. So
60 x 4.2 x 1000 = 252 kJ. Boiling is the same at 2257 kJ. So total in Florida is 2509 kJ.

the difference between those is roughly 5%.

[Anonymous No.9259952]

>>9259862
>affect the results so little that it doesn't matter.
WEW LAD
You cannot honestly believe that. Say we run an OLS. Guess what? They contribute significantly, and throwing them into epsilon term results in losing information that can be used to best account for differences.
>>>/sci/

[Anonymous No.9259962]

>>9259949
>the difference between those is roughly 5%.
which is statistically significant!

[Anonymous No.9259966]

>>9259532

https://youtu.be/dDLw1Rx_cAI

[Anonymous No.9259967]

>>9259862
I forgot the pic for >>9259952
>>>/sci/

[Anonymous No.9259970]

>>9259532
get a gas stove, faggot

[Anonymous No.9259971]

>>9259962
>which is statistically significant!

No son, it's not. It's negligible. And it sure as hell doesn't explain the massive difference in performance the other anon "reported"--especially given that those results showed the opposite of this example.

[Anonymous No.9259984]

>When /sci/ and /ck/ collide

[Anonymous No.9259997]

>>9259971
>negligible
I don't think you understand the meaning of that word! If it was negligible then you could account for it all in the epsilon term. Moreover, you basic stats education is showing as you have not disputed my sufficiency claim. Run OLS within parameters while not extrapolating and you will see that you're wrong. Bayesian fags with any prior are welcome too.

[Jordan !Jordan.UwQ No.9260021]

>>9259997
LOL why did the bro attack her like that? Any backstory?

[Anonymous No.9260035]

>>9260021
Really obnoxious, manly trans picking fights with people and expecting nothing to happen because he's a "girl".

[Anonymous No.9260037]

>>9259532
>What's the fastest way to boil water?
Place in a vacuum chamber

[Anonymous No.9260044]

>>9260037
Water boils cold in vacuum.

[Anonymous No.9260049]

>>9260044
Yes and water is also wet

[Anonymous No.9260052]

>>9260044
>Water boils cold in vacuum.

This sentence is a great example of something that is technically correct on the surface but actually meaningless when you think about it.

[Anonymous No.9260190]

>>9260049
>>9260052
Well then, try boiling water in vacuum and then brew tee in it. Personally, I prefer brewing tee in hot water.

[Anonymous No.9260207]

>>9260190
Tea* Forgive me, English is not my mother tongue.

[Anonymous No.9260237]

>>9260052
Why would it be meaningless? Yes, water boils quicker at lower pressure, but that is just because the temperature it boils at has been lowered. Cooking eggs on top of the Mount Everest would take a shitload of time, water doesn't get hotter than 70°C there.

[Anonymous No.9260254]

>>9259984

[Anonymous No.9260260]

>>9259532
Start out with nearly boiling water..

[Anonymous No.9260378]

>>9259532
>This entire fucking thread

[Anonymous No.9260384]

30 000 btu propane stove

[Anonymous No.9260459]

>>9259966
I want that.

[Anonymous No.9260512]

Boil water then freeze it for later, when you need some boiling water just toss the cube in a sizzling hot pan.

[Anonymous No.9260526]

>>9259740
>buy pre-boiled water fresh from the water farms (organic)
>it's tepid by the time I get home

What the hell guys

[Anonymous No.9260546]

>>9259532
Cover the top

[Anonymous No.9260576]

>>9260207
We already know about your mother tongue heh

>>9260190
>he doesn't know about cold brew

[Anonymous No.9260584]

>>9260190
>Well then, try boiling water in vacuum and then brew tee in it.

How hot can I make the tea leaves?

[Anonymous No.9260608]

oh neat, Washington starting 2 hrs early today.
Finally some tennis without dozing off after set 1.

[Anonymous No.9260662]

>>9259532
High temperature, highly conductive container, lots of surface area, under a vacuum.

[Anonymous No.9261721]

>>9259532
Light it on fire you dingus

[Anonymous No.9261731]

>>9260546
this desu

[Anonymous No.9261787]

Adding salt lowers the boiling point. If cooking pasta add salt.

[Anonymous No.9261809]

>>9259617
Standard British circuits are 13A. Standard US circuits are 15A (most places are 125V as well). Standard high power kettles in the UK and US are 3000W and 1800W respectively as the maximum draw for each circuit is 3120W and 1875W.

[Anonymous No.9261811]

>>9259597
>2017
>Still uses nuclear power

[Anonymous No.9261814]

>>9261787
>Adding salt lowers the boiling point
That's literally the opposite of true
Go take a chemistry class

[Anonymous No.9261826]

>>9261814
It *is* true that adding salt to water will make it boil faster, but the time difference is minimal. Like, you'll only be shaving seconds off the boiling time. However, if you want to min/max your water boiling time... I can't believe I just typed that out...

[Anonymous No.9261829]

>>9261826
>Boiling-point elevation describes the phenomenon that the boiling point of a liquid (a solvent) will be higher when another compound is added, meaning that a solution has a higher boiling point than a pure solvent. This happens whenever a non-volatile solute, such as a salt, is added to a pure solvent, such as water
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling-point_elevation
It *literally* does not lower the boiling point

[Anonymous No.9262108]

>>9261829
I was mistaken, and I misinterpreted the info I initially found. What I read was based off of a brine mixture. It seems that brine will get hotter faster, *but* the boiling point will rise. It basically means as you said: it will take more time to boil. Thank you for correcting me on this.

[Anonymous No.9262633]

>>9262108
If you wanna know something crazy its that hot water freezes faster in a freezer than tap cool

[Anonymous No.9262897]

>>9259532
a nuclear bomb will boil it really fast

[Anonymous No.9262945]

>>9259532
Boil a big batch on Sunday, freeze it, and then use it all week

[Anonymous No.9262968]

>>9259532
Have a liberal stick their hand into the pot, and then whisper into their ear, "PRESIDENT Donald J. Trump."

[Anonymous No.9263144]

>>9259532
I boil all my water on Sunday and then freeze it so I can get boiling water a lot faster later in the week

[Anonymous No.9263274]

Put hot rocks/metal objects inside it desu.

[Anonymous No.9263282]

>>9260526
>He doesn't live RIGHT by a water farm
It's like you don't even like boiled water

[Anonymous No.9263332]

>>9262968
kek

[Anonymous No.9263344]

Add a bit of salt. It lowers the water's boiling temperature.

[Anonymous No.9263379]

>>9263344
>It lowers the water's boiling temperature
Which means that your stuff just takes longer to cook than it would at a higher temperature. This is just as stupid as the vacuum fags.

[Anonymous No.9263578]

>>9259532
>2017
Americans still can't into kettles

[Anonymous No.9263582]

>>9259647
Happened literally with me at my uncle's house too. My parents warned me but they were clever enough not to tell which was the normal tap.

[Anonymous No.9263601]

>it's a /ck/ version of NTSC vs PAL episode

Thought this shit was contained to /vr/

[Anonymous No.9263605]

>>9263578
>2017
Europeans still can't into relevance

[Anonymous No.9263628]

>>9263605
>60% white and dropping by the day

[Anonymous No.9263734]

>>9261811
>he doesn't have a travel sized thorium reactor
How's life in the dark ages?

[Anonymous No.9263829]

fastest way to boil water is for an astronaut to jettison it into space

[Anonymous No.9264407]

microwave

[Anonymous No.9264456]

>>9259532
Boil a large pot of water at the beginning of the week and then pour it into empty bottles and freeze it for later, ready to go at any time.

[Anonymous No.9264485]

Get pressurized steam from your nearest steam outlet and let it exand until it reaches atmospheric pressure.

[Anonymous No.9264490]

>>9259532
Microwave it in a plastic container

[Anonymous No.9264526]

>>9259532
Electric kettle.

[Anonymous No.9264706]

>>9259563
>laser eye it for you
Lol

[Anonymous No.9264722]

>>9259602
Autism and water: the post

[Anonymous No.9266503]

>>9264722
just another day on 4chan

[Anonymous No.9266527]

Imagine living in a world where you only have 110 volts.

[Anonymous No.9266531]

>>9266527
It's ok. My Cuisinart kettle does 1.25 liters in about 5 minutes

[Anonymous No.9266548]

>>9259563
it's heat vision actually

[Anonymous No.9266556]

>how it feels to live in a country with 240 volt power points

[Anonymous No.9267526]

>>9259647
Haha ya fuckin idiot

[Anonymous No.9267598]

>>9259535
Electric kettles aren't really a thing in the US since our voltage is lower than PAL regions. Water takes forever to boil on electric ovens too because of this.

[Anonymous No.9267635]

>>9259532
Boil less water.

Heating up water is one of the most energy intensive processes you can do. Water has an extremely high heat capacity. It's so inefficient to heat up water, that the energy in one gallon of gas can either melt 100kg of ice, or move that same 100kg of ice 122km into the air.

[Anonymous No.9267665]

>>9267598
kitchens, and especially kitchens with electric ranges have 220V lines.

[Anonymous No.9267692]

put a lid on it, it helps retain heat

[Anonymous No.9267699]

Throw that shit into thea sun. Obviously.

[Anonymous No.9267768]

Wait, do Americans really not have kettles? They have to go through all that effort on a stovetop to boil water whenever they want a warm beverage?

[Anonymous No.9268307]

Just boil a big batch of water once a week and keep it in the freezer ready to go

[Anonymous No.9268318]

>>9267768
I just use the microwave.

[Anonymous No.9268359]

>when a thread about how to boil water turns into a heated argument (PUN INTENDED).

[Anonymous No.9268369]

*Small amount: Microwave

*Big amount: Induction

[Anonymous No.9268380]

>>9259583
Rip rap rippity rip rap a rippity rip rap-a-doo!!

[Anonymous No.9268437]

>>9259616
Finally a fucking practical solution