/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.8570332]

Do you agree with him?
https://youtu.be/lCc8IEvh70w

[Anonymous No.8570371]

>>8570332
pic quality is so low I can't tell wether it's meat or turd.

[Anonymous No.8570383]

>>8570332
most overused gif on /ck/

[Anonymous No.8570392]

>>8570332
>orders a well done steak
>says it's overdone

[Anonymous No.8570407]

>>8570332
As a grill cook, if you order a well done steak I pretty much don't give two shits about your steak. In fact I go and find the shitty cut of meat to serve you. Your steak be it ribeye, fillet or new York strip gets seared on both sides then thrown in a oven till I remember the fucker.
So yes I agree with memechef this time.

[Anonymous No.8570510]

[Anonymous No.8570535]

[Anonymous No.8570591]

I find it baffling that a cross-section of the flesh isn't shown. This reporter was a fucker chancer and needs to fuck off.

[Anonymous No.8570595]

>>8570392
There's a difference between well done and burnt to a blackened crisp. Only autists can't see that.

[Anonymous No.8570619]

>>8570510
Oh baby, nice char.

[Anonymous No.8570653]

Me when I charcoal and people ask for a well done steak.

[Anonymous No.8570800]

[Anonymous No.8570823]

>>8570332
I do. The guy should have complained at the moment. And the steak was well done as he asked. The retard probably wanted medium-well done but fucked up the order.

[Anonymous No.8570839]

A chef I used to work with would grill a steak on both sides till it was crispy and then throw it in the microwave whenever somebody ordered well done.

Sometimes they came out of the microwave with the sides curled up like a bowl, and people still ate them up and complimented us.

[Anonymous No.8570849]

>>8570839
Kek.
Did he worked at Maze?

[Anonymous No.8570859]

>well done steak
Might as well hand them some beef jerky that's been in a toaster

[Anonymous No.8570863]

>>8570653
Are you grilling the people that want it well done or the steak? If the former, I concur.

[Anonymous No.8570875]

>>8570332
100% chef Ramsay is correct, well done will be served up as was in any high class establishment. What plebeian ever wants steak we'll done anyway?

[Anonymous No.8570914]

>>8570332

he's completely right, what a ridiculous attempt to make up controversy

[Anonymous No.8571153]

>>8570863
The people.

[Anonymous No.8571176]

>>8570332
Yes. People who order well done are fucking idiots. My parents do it and for the first 18 years of my life I thought I hated steak

[Anonymous No.8571199]

>>8570332
Yes

[Anonymous No.8571727]

>>8570407
this, I was warned years ago to never order steak well done or you would get the oldest cut of meat in the kitchen.

[Anonymous No.8571791]

>>8570332
i think when people say they want well done they mean that theres no red. i think he burnt it on purpose to make a point on how he hates well done steak.

[Anonymous No.8571913]

I've never had a good steak before, whats it like?

[Anonymous No.8571947]

>>8571176
Yeah for the longest part of my life I wasn't a fan of steak until I went to a steakhouse that actually cooked it properly. My mom just always overcooked them for a while, but she got better.

[Anonymous No.8572524]

>>8571153
Looks like Ja/ck/'s barbecue.

[Anonymous No.8573277]

>>8571791
no, well done means burnt

[Anonymous No.8573763]

>>8573277
Then what do you order to get a steak that

>isn't burnt on the outside
>isn't pink on the inside

[Anonymous No.8574500]

>>8570332

why not complain then and there?

[Anonymous No.8574506]

>>8574500
Because he's a food critic, the entire purpose was to try the food as it came.

[Anonymous No.8574579]

>>8571913
Like taking a fat shit in the woods with no one around for miles. Like making love to a beautiful woman who hasn't bathed in three days. Like landing the first ever 900 on a skateboard live on tv at the X-Games. It's a primal satisfaction that everyone should experience more often but we can't due to our busy routines.

[Anonymous No.8574680]

>>8574506
>he's a food critic
What kind of food critic eats a well done steak?
Wish they said his name so I could looks up his reviews

[Anonymous No.8574711]

it was obviously an overdone well done steak.

[Anonymous No.8574736]

>>8574711
>overdone well done steak.

redundant senpai

[Anonymous No.8574744]

Ramsay is completely right, and the interviewer is a complete fuckstick.

1. You can't tell shit from a photo, it didn't show the inside of the steak even and wasn't a very high quality photo to begin with
2. A single bad steak (if we assume it was poorly cooked) means nothing, he should have sent it back, they would have happily cooked another
3. A well done steak is going to be dry, chewy, burnt and flavorless, that's literally what a well done steak is. You cook it until it's brown all the way through, which bleeds out most of the moisture and causes the muscle to firm up. This is why anyone with 2 brain cells that orders steak gets either rare, or medium rare. Anything more than that is retarded.
4. It's retarded to hang Ramsay over every thing that might happen at one of his many restaurants. This is retarded.

[Anonymous No.8574747]

>>8574680
>What kind of food critic eats a well done steak?

Any of them. They eat what they're served, otherwise how could they comment on the restaurant in question?

Also, I imagine that ordering a well-done steak would be a great test for the restaurant. There's a very fine line between a properly cooked well-done steak and something with the texture of shoe leather.

[Anonymous No.8574750]

>>8574579
wow

[Anonymous No.8574766]

>>8574579
mmmm.. unbathed women [provided they are at least thinnish, if not outright thin] are unironically my favorite... to a point, obviously

[Anonymous No.8574768]

>>8574744
>A well done steak is going to be dry, chewy, burnt and flavorless, that's literally what a well done steak is.
>dry, chewy, flavorless

this dipshit doesn't realize you can add ketchup, a1, or hienz 57 (or a combo of all 3) to bring out the flavor, and make it moist/non-chewy while not having to worry about salmonella

[Anonymous No.8574770]

>>8574747
>They eat what they're served,
No they choose what they want.
>>8574747
>There's a very fine line between a properly cooked well-done steak and something with the texture of shoe leather.
LoL, OK sure thing bud

[Anonymous No.8574771]

The truth is a bit in the middle.

Ramsey's truths: it was a shitty interview question, you can't tell shit about a dish from a shitty printout of a screen grab, you destroy the flavor of the meat cooking it well done, and you don't argue with the customer if that's what they want.

Shitty interviewer's truths: That steak seemed shittily cooked regardless of its being ordered well done, and you'd expect better at a good restaurant.

The thing is, as Ramsay pointed out, he should have taken this up with the restaurant when it was served. Ramsay can't tell shit about the steak or the circumstances after the fact.

Based on the video and description, it likely was cooked shittily, and the cook almost certainly knew it. They might have made it extra bad on purpose, or it might have been an accident but they figured "meh, they ordered it well done, that's what they get", or they might have considered starting over but felt it was not worth disrupting the meal's tempo. It looked like an 8-top of professionals at lunch, so you'd be adding an extra 10-15 minutes to everybody's lunch, and either leaving their food to sit and deteriorate for that period, or have "well done" food critic watch everyone else eat for 15 minutes, then have everyone else watch him eat for 15 minutes.

[Anonymous No.8574787]

>>8574768
>can add ketchup, a1, or hienz 57 (or a combo of all 3)
A good steak needs none of this shit.
You eat steak like a 10 year old.

[Anonymous No.8574788]

>mfw I accidentally ordered a medium well hamburger when I meant medium rare
>tfw it tasted like shitty cafeteria food
>tfw it was 8 dollars
fuck at least I know what it feels like to have subhuman taste

[Anonymous No.8574794]

>>8574787
Actual autism right here m80s

[Anonymous No.8574810]

>>8574794
Calling someone out because they mix up sauces like a kid in school.
Somehow I have the autismo.
Sure thing Friend

[Anonymous No.8574870]

Genuine question.
If someone is a well mannered patron who comes in, acts like a regular human being, is kind to the staff, tips well (if in america), and doesnt hassle at all with your workers, what fucking right do you have to act like a complete manchild and sabotage their meal because you dont like how they ordered it?
I get it, well done steak is wrong and it cooks out the true flavor of the steak, etcetc. But who the FUCK cares? If you arent eating it and are getting paid to cook it, why not just do your fucking job? All these pathetic stories of "YEAH WELL MY HEAD CHEF WOULD MICROWAVE THEM AND MAKE SURE IT WAS ROTTEN OLD MEAT CUTS!" scream out that theyre just fucking big babies who probably got bullied or whooped by their dad and are passive aggressively taking out their woes on some unknown customer who just wanted a well done steak. I don't eat well done, I don't think it tastes good at all, but this shit has always bugged me. I thought you guys were supposed to be the mature sophisticated ones eating your fancy rare steaks?

[Anonymous No.8574900]

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[Anonymous No.8575001]

>>8574787
falling for the b8 this fucking hard

[Anonymous No.8575012]

aaaaaaaaa

[Anonymous No.8575106]

I understand that well done is overcooked and tastes like shit but god damn why the fuck are chefs so fucking autistic about how someone wants their shit cooked. Why even offer them the choice if amything but medium means you are going to fuck with their food. You know i really hope it's just a meme with all the idiots who talk about fucking with a customer's food because if not you food workers are the biggest fucking cunts in the world

[Anonymous No.8575115]

>>8575106
Have you ever been to a restaurant and they told you that you can't order how you want your meat cooked because you're too much of an idiot to know that well done is horrible? No? Well because it's bad for business.

[Anonymous No.8575116]

>>8574900
Is someone going to record it all and post it on thepiratebay?

[Anonymous No.8575126]

>>8575115
Still a manchild for spitting in people's food or cooking it in the microwave because they don't like it cooked like you do

[Anonymous No.8575134]

>>8575106
I won't fuck with your food (spit,drop on floor,etc)
But I damn sure don't give a fuck about it.

[Anonymous No.8575169]

If you gave a medium cooked steak to a person that has to have well done would they even notice?

[Anonymous No.8575170]

>>8575169
Yes. There will be flavor. These people don't like flavor.

[Anonymous No.8575186]

>>8570332
this is interesting because a few seasons back on Master Chef, one of the "pressure tests" involved cooking a well done steak. GR stressed how it is absolutely possible to cook a well done steak that is still moist, tender, flavorful, and delicious, and how the contestants should make sure they do exactly that.

To hear him so candidly declare that a well done steak "has gone beyond any sort of quality" seems to contradict what he said on MC. I wonder if he did the MC bit to make up for this interview clip, or if he was just mugging for the MC cameras.

Either way, I think it's totally possible to cook a well done steak that is still moist and delicious, but very few people know how or have the patience to bother with it.

[Anonymous No.8575196]

>>8574768
this has to be bait 3/10 made me reply

[Anonymous No.8575277]

>>8570595
>>8570653
>>8570800
>>8570839
>>8573277
>>8574711
>>8573763
i think the problem is that restaurants aren't usually properly equipped to cook a good well done steak. I've cooked thousands of steaks and at my work we cook it on a broiler. i still don't understand why both the oven broiler and grill broiler are called broilers, but whatever

when you cook steak on an oily grill at a high heat, it only makes sense that in order to cook all the pink out of it you're going to overcook the outside. I think a good way to cook a well done steak would be to sear the outside and finish it in an oven, or sous vide. I've never cooked anything sous vide and probably never will unless i'm working for a restaurant that does.

anyway if you're cooking meat on a seasoned broiler you're going to burn it if you cook it that way the whole time, GENERALLY speaking. I'm sure there are ways to avoid it but practically speaking after seeing grills in restaurants it just seems logical to me.

>>8575106
I've been a line cook since I was 18 and I agree. I have never seen anyone truly fuck with someones food in any real way in all of my time. I don't have an arrogance because at the end of the day I'm serving people who are generally just as or more successful than me. politeness begets politeness. People who are not dismissive of wait staff or anything don't deserve anything less than the best you can provide. When someone orders a well done steak, yes, they get a worse piece of meat, but i've never seen anything that i would say was truly incriminating. I've seen 2 instances of serving food that was dropped on the ground while still raw, and was then rinsed and cooked, and they were both in the same poorly run restaurant.

>>8575186
there's a difference between being able to cook a good well done steak and the practicality of having the means to do so available on a line. If there is a single way of cooking meat it seems like it'd be hard to cook it every temp perfectly.

[Anonymous No.8575289]

>>8575277
this anon gets it

[Anonymous No.8575296]

>>8570332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3OT2JK2APg

[Anonymous No.8575357]

>>8574771
>you'd be adding an extra 10-15 minutes to everybody's lunch, and either leaving their food to sit and deteriorate for that period, or have "well done" food critic watch everyone else eat for 15 minutes, then have everyone else watch him eat for 15 minutes
Or you'd do what a good restaurant should do in that situation and re-fire the whole table.

[Anonymous No.8575443]

>>8574787
to be honest heinz 57 sauce is God tier

[Anonymous No.8575481]

>>8570332
who was in the wrong here?

really makes you think

[Anonymous No.8575950]

>>8575481
Seems, it's a matter of opinion regardless.

Clearly this situation is over and done with.

Cook your damn dirty steaks however you want to.

Just hope there are no cameras running or female Australian reporters on hand to give it a voice over if there is.

[Anonymous No.8577121]

>>8570332
he's rightfully offended. if someone ordered from my restaurant and then weeks after the fact some reporter sitting next to them sent me a low quality picture of the product way after the fact to complain that it was 'wrong' and expect me to defend it or feel apologetic, i'd be offended too.

this isn't about the doneness of the steak, it's some cheapshot hack reporter trying to take stabs at a professional chef/celebrity's integrity using the theme of an already controversial topic as an excuse. he handled it as well as i expected him to, quite more calmly than i would have, honestly.

[Anonymous No.8577168]

>>8575296
Jesus christ this is too fucking dramatic for me

Do Americans really enjoy shit like this?

[Anonymous No.8578733]

It's the professional thing to actually still give a shit about the customers food whether they order it blue rare or well done.
/thread

[Anonymous No.8578753]

Literally bends the knee for no one

[Anonymous No.8578920]

>>8575296
>gordon taps his knife on the cutting board

what a fucking hack
0/10 worst cook ever

[Anonymous No.8578940]

>>8577168
Only literal retard npcs watch television anymore. I don't even consider most people to be human in this country. I don't know if it's an american thing I doubt it. Probably loads of europeons who are retarded as all hell too. the secret is learning about the jews, it will set you free

[Anonymous No.8579044]

>>8575296
thats the one season i remember
that fucking hack with the shitty rice pudding
and the blind girl with the superb rudimentary dish

and ramsey was the friendly guy in that show

[Anonymous No.8579115]

>>8574870

Using older cuts of meat isn't really to sabotage the meal, in order to reduce waste you use the older meat in well done dishes - where the lower quality meat isn't as noticeable.

I think the microwave is just unprofessional and lazy though.

[Anonymous No.8579385]

>>8575296
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