/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.8420867]

>His cuisine has loads of cheese in it.

I'm looking at you mid westerners.

[Anonymous No.8420913]

How Intolerant of you

[Anonymous No.8420925]

french cuisine is full of butter and cheese

fuck off yuropoor

[Anonymous No.8420939]

>>8420925

wow, those are some nice looking indiana salads.

[Anonymous No.8421875]

>>8420867
midwestern """cuisine""" is nothing more than casserole slop full of crap like cheese and cream

>B-BUT MUH GRANNY'S RECIPE

casseroles are for people who don't have the capacity to prepare actual food

get fucked, Midwesterners and good post, OP

[Anonymous No.8421894]

>>8421875
You know nothing. Speak from experience or speak from what people like you who know nothing post on a board. The latter making you look humourous. If you think the midwest is casseroles and nothing else, you are an idiot plain and simple.

[Anonymous No.8421896]

>>8421894

Why don't you share some of your knowledge with us then....or are you just shitposting?

[Anonymous No.8421903]

>>8421894
Obviously it is hyperbole but he's not wrong. Midwesterners get angry when the plate isn't loaded with slop piled to eye level. The idea that food could come in shapes other than "jabba the hut" or colors besides grey, brown, white, and orange makes them angrily start ranting about "third world containment cities" and anything nicer than cheesecake factory is pretentious.

[Anonymous No.8421937]

>>8421903
As a born and raised midwesterner, I can confirm this.

[Anonymous No.8422167]

>>8421903
This reminds me of my family
>cooks literally everything in chicken broth
>overcooks any and all meats.
>piles any noodle or pasta dish with Mexican 3-cheese blend, even pad Thai
>any condiments other than ketchup or miracle whip are "too spicy"
>the only seasonings they use are salt, pepper, and Mrs. Dash
>use corn syrup instead of maple syrup on their pancakes

I hate visiting my home city for the holidays.

[Anonymous No.8422184]

>>8422167
god damn that's depressing

hang in there anon

[Anonymous No.8422221]

God they do put cheese on everything in the Midwest. Especially salad. I didn't even know cheese in salad was a thing until I moved to South Dakota. They just pile in giant lumps of grated Kraft cheddar, then add bacon bits and torrents of ranch dressing. It's disgusting.

[Anonymous No.8422226]

>>8422167
>the only seasonings they use are salt, pepper, and Mrs. Dash

That's actually pretty adventurous. I've known people whose entire spice cabinet consisted of just salt and pepper.

[Anonymous No.8422236]

is hot """dish""" the 'go'za of the north?

[Anonymous No.8422237]

>>8422226
The really rebellious ones become hot sauce heads. They can't conceive of flavors more interesting than "cheese product microwaved with starchy tuber and/or fried bread thing", so rather than learning about cooking like people in normal places, they develop an encyclopedic knowledge of brands of bottled hot sauce.

[Anonymous No.8422293]

Can confirm. Just moved to wisconsin and the people here are huge. Also, carbs and cheese everywhere. Oval shaped people everywhere. Produce is expensive and not very good. I have an average body and I am considered hot around here. Ill take it.

[Anonymous No.8422310]

>fine 'idwest 'uisine

[Anonymous No.8422334]

>>8422293
lol i moved from wisconsin to chicago and the difference in body shapes was one thing that took some adjusting. still some thicc people here but on average everyone is skinnier, but also shorter too?

[Anonymous No.8422344]

>>8422334
Constant intake of rBGH from the time you slide out of your mom's gash tends to make you both wide and tall, like a prized heifer.

It's why when you order clothes from Yoox a Large is the same as an American Small.

[Anonymous No.8422346]

cheese is good

[Anonymous No.8422351]

>>8420867
>/ck/ now hates cheese

Is there a food any of you faggots actually like?

[Anonymous No.8422353]

>>8422167
>>use corn syrup instead of maple syrup on their pancakes
no they don't

[Anonymous No.8422360]

>>8422293
Wisconsin is right around the national average in obesity

[Anonymous No.8422364]

>>8422334
Yeah it is the same thing when I go to minneapolis too. Skinny fit people. Lots of dairy+refined carbs+hormone laden meat = yuuuuuuuuuggggee people.

[Anonymous No.8422367]

>tfw I've never liked the taste of cheese
>more and more people are saying it's shit-tier cooking to use it
Thank fuck.

[Anonymous No.8422368]

>>8422351
Just because I don't constantly cram my gaping maw with cheese doesn't mean I hate it. Everything in moderation, my egg-shaped northern friendo.

[Anonymous No.8422369]

>>8422360
"Average" doesn't mean "good" when it comes to American obesity rankings

[Anonymous No.8422372]

>>8422367
>>more and more people are saying it's shit-tier cooking to use it
No one has ever said this while not trolling

[Anonymous No.8422375]

>>8422351
stay mad, lardster

[Anonymous No.8422378]

>>8422368
>my egg-shaped northern friendo.


My BMI is 21, faggot. You guys are worse than /mu/ as far as pretension is concerned. No one on that board likes music and apparently no one here actually likes food.

[Anonymous No.8422389]

where were you when the cheese war began?

[Anonymous No.8422406]

>>8422378
>likes '''food'''
No, we just have different ideas of what '''food''' is

For me, it doesn't ooze out of a microwave freezer bag

[Anonymous No.8422414]

>>8420867
Michifag here. I luh that shit, you suck fucking cuck. Can you honestly say that you think casseroles taste bad? >>8422351 is totally right, this is typical /ck/ bitching but I've already bitten.

I'll admit that I've heard salad referred to as "rabbit food" too often. Most of my mom's own cooking is comfort food and I hit 260 lb at my heaviest.

[Anonymous No.8422419]

>>8422406
Have you ever even been to the midwest?

[Anonymous No.8422424]

>>8422364
ive lost weight here from more walking plus eating less meat/more good food but im still larger than most people, i feel like ill always stick out in a way. wide shoulders dont help either. interesting that a move only 2 hours away makes that much difference

[Anonymous No.8422429]

>>8422414

>260

[Anonymous No.8422430]

>>8422419
Yeah, for 6 years, but I have a different point of view than you therefore I'm obviously either trolling or insane. I mean everyone who has been to the midwest clearly must think the food culture is the best ever, right?

[Anonymous No.8422431]

>>8422378
I'm sorry your state's "cuisine" is prepackaged garbage tossed into a trough, but there's no need to project your anger onto us, my rotund Minnesotean compatriot.

[Anonymous No.8422436]

ITT: midwesties SIZZLING in denial

[Anonymous No.8422439]

I'm French, we use a lot of cheese in our cuisine.
Our cheese is nothing like your "cheese" by the way so I'm not sure if I should feel concerned.

[Anonymous No.8422441]

>>8422430
Maybe because you are obviously making shit up and describing the midwest as though it is inhabited by midwestern characters in 70s movies

[Anonymous No.8422445]

>>8422439
lol, how exactly is the cheese on there distinct from cheese you would find on a similar sandwich in America?

[Anonymous No.8422457]

>>8422445

Its production is the result of the fermentation of milk. Huge difference with the greasy plastic you people make.

[Anonymous No.8422458]

>>8422436
sizzling like a delicious can of cream'o'mush roasting over a warm, cozy fire.

[Anonymous No.8422461]

>>8422445
Not him, but it really depends what you mean by "America"

I had a croque monsieur at a hotel bar in DC that tasted no different than what I've had in France

Then there's the ''''cheese'''' that you get at the average midwest establishment. It comes pressed between two pieces of polyethylene and melts at body temperature to a consistent goo, as designed by the industrial food scientists at Kraft Foods (now Mondelez) in 1957 when "this food came out of a laboratory and is perfectly edible" was as high praise as it got when it came to groceries.=

[Anonymous No.8422469]

>>8422457
>ive never been to america

ok, you eat your moldy sludge, really patrician of you

[Anonymous No.8422471]

>>8422461
In the midwest, Kraft singles are sen as a low tier child's food like hot dogs, you will very rarely see an adult put it on a sandwich.
Not to imply everyone is eating top tier cheese, but the basic tier cheese is not nearly as bad as you seem to think. Kraft singles are more of a black person/poverty thing than a midwestern thing

[Anonymous No.8422474]

>>8422471
But anon, there are barely any blacks in the midwest. They're concentrated in a few pockets around north minneapolis, south chicago, gary, and detroit. But that's about it. You're not getting out of this by blaming it on "the niggers", as I said before I've lived there and you're not fooling anyone

[Anonymous No.8422475]

>>8422461
Fuck off man, the farm is inherently a laboratory, stop it with the antiscience bullshit

Make fun of food based on its actual taste and quality, don't resort to misguided fearmongering about what is "natural"

[Anonymous No.8422476]

>>8422474
>But anon, there are barely any blacks in the midwest.
Yeah, that was precisely my point. Calling Kraft singles a Midwestern thing is just wrong. The midwest makes most of America's quality cheese, Kraft factory cheese is from California

[Anonymous No.8422480]

>>8422469

I know, thank you.
No mold = no cheese. Wrap your head around that.

[Anonymous No.8422484]

>>8422475
You seem to have confused this for a discussion about something that it's not.

The fact is, it's not the 50s anymore and the laboratory aesthetic is associated with making low quality foods as palatable as possible to in turn feed the masses as cheaply as possible. Foods that come out of a spray can were seen as revolutionary at the time and were very much a status symbol. Today, not so much. And yet, people like you resort to bizarro logic like "if he doesn't snort eze-cheese out of a spray can it means he's an anti-vaxxer"

STFU

[Anonymous No.8422489]

>>8422476
>"quality cheese"
See >>8422406
Differing definitions

[Anonymous No.8422490]

>>8422489
There is no definition of quality cheese by which the Midwest does not make most of it in America

[Anonymous No.8422492]

>>8422484
Again, I am talking about the food's quality and flavor, not how cool or uncool the aesthetics of the process for making it is

[Anonymous No.8422494]

>>8422490
No definition that a midwesterner would accept, considering he's never tasted cheese that has visible mold, strong flavors, or non-homogenous textures, nor would he consider it anything other than a manufacturing defect

[Anonymous No.8422498]

>>8420867
I bet you like soup, faggot

[Anonymous No.8422499]

ITT:

[Anonymous No.8422500]

>>8422492
If it has to be explained to you that eze cheese isn't good quality or good tasting, you're basically making my point for me. People from the midwest, by and large, have absolutely no frame of reference by which to objectively evaluate food. Good means "what I'm used to" and bad means everything else. Unfortunately what they're used to is pretty god awful.

[Anonymous No.8422504]

>>8420867

> cheese IS our national dish
t. Mexico

[Anonymous No.8422506]

>>8422494
all of those things are commonly produced in the midwest. Are you just saying random shit hoping others who have never been there will believe you?

[Anonymous No.8422509]

>>8422500
I'm not defending canned cheese. I am just scolding you for bring up dumb and irrelevant things in your argument. You are more worried about aesthetic than quality, you do things to be seen doing them, and that makes you bad

[Anonymous No.8422512]

>>8422500
>People from the midwest, by and large, have absolutely no frame of reference by which to objectively evaluate food. Good means "what I'm used to" and bad means everything else
The fuck are you even basing this stuff on? The midwest is one of the most highly educated and affluent places in the world

[Anonymous No.8422513]

>>8422506
>commonly produced
Yeah sure buddy. Right next to the famed durian farms and the world-renowned vineyards.

[Anonymous No.8422517]

>>8422509
You honestly seem to believe that you can't judge a food by looking at it and smelling it, and that's a sad state of affairs
>>8422512
They're better educated than the deep south, yes. When it comes to food, they are clueless.

[Anonymous No.8422518]

>>8422513
The midwest surely doesn't have the climate for top tier wine for the most part, but it has an ideal climate for cheese

[Anonymous No.8422522]

>>8422518
It may or may not have an ideal climate for cheese, but what they choose to do with that climate is a whole other story.

Believe me nothing would make me happier than the midwest turning its dairy production capacity towards doing some good. Instead, you choose to make stuff like pic related.

[Anonymous No.8422524]

>>8422517
You really shouldn't consider how you look while eating a food as you seem to. You are more worried about what other people will think than the actual physical and chemical properties of the food you eat

[Anonymous No.8422529]

>>8422522
The midwest makes most of the US's cheese, both the good stuff and the mediocre stuff. No matter how much mediocre cheese they make it doesn't change the fact that they make most of the good stuff too

[Anonymous No.8422531]

>>8422524
I'm not "worried" about anything, my eyes and nose are a pretty useful too in helping me evaluate food, unlike you apparently, who can only go by advertisements and whatever the locals in your area consider "normal food".

[Anonymous No.8422533]

>>8422529
>pastuerized milk
>the good stuff
You've been lied to by the International Wisconsin International Cheese Association

[Anonymous No.8422539]

>>8422531
>my eyes and nose are a pretty useful too in helping me evaluate food,
Then why are you more concerned with how a product is made than how it tastes and smells? You literally started your rant by saying food shouldn't come from a lab, thats why I started calling you out. Agriculture is inherently a scientific laboratory, its always been based on breeding animals and plants so they are more useful for human consumption (obviously the traits considered useful are constantly changing). I never once said Kraft California factory "cheese" is good, just that you shouldn't participate in dumb anti-science shit in an argument about how food tastes

[Anonymous No.8422541]

>>8422533
Hooks cheddar is fucking delicious, if you don't think its good you obviously do not belong is a discussion on cheese

[Anonymous No.8422549]

>>8422522
I'd eat it

[Anonymous No.8422556]

>>8422539
Because how a product is made is, to a large extent, reflected in its packaging. I realize you think "normal cheese" comes from a spray can but (try to suspend disbelief for a moment here) I promise you it tastes nothing like high quality cheese that doesn't come in a spray can.

To you, the spray can embodies science and progress and ought to be worshiped. Anyone who fails to love it is some kind of luddite. To me, it represents an amusing experiment in the interactions between applied science and marketing, that had its time, and is now rightly recognized by decent people as an anachronism that belongs in the dark ages when macro beers terrorized every bar and weird canned garbage foods were the obligatory centerpieces of every holiday meal.

[Anonymous No.8422565]

>>8422541
You mean '''cheese''', and you're right, I don't. I'd rather eat something good (cue the screams of "eew yuckeeeee" from midwesterners who have never seen real cheese)

To answer the inevitable question: yes, it will make you sick. Not gonna try it? Good, more for me.

[Anonymous No.8422572]

>>8422556
>I realize you think "normal cheese" comes from a spray can
If you keep saying it, it must be true!

[Anonymous No.8422575]

>>8422572
If you just define science as "stuff I like" and anti-science as "people who don't like stuff I like", it makes your opinions infallible!

[Anonymous No.8422577]

>>8422565
haha, what?
So cheddar isn't real cheese for you?
Its one thing to whine about process cheese, but now you are just saying styles you don't like to talk about aren't real cheese

[Anonymous No.8422580]

>>8422575
You are the one who invoked the laboratory imagery, not me

[Anonymous No.8422583]

>>8422577
What I'm saying is, I've literally never had cheese from Wisconsin that was anything better than mediocre. I'll admit it makes an affordable substitute for some of the less complex (yet not inexpensive) cheeses from respectable cheese-producing areas. But there are no cheeses from Wisconsin that I'd call "the good stuff" unless I was being sarcastic. Literally every time I meet someone from Wisconsin it's "but what about _____" no, buddy, I've been playing this game for too long. I know how this ends.

[Anonymous No.8422584]

>>8422577
I bet you think cheddar cheese originated in Wisconsin, don't you?

[Anonymous No.8422586]

>>8422580
You were the one who defended what essentially amounts to cold war food rations as being "science therefore it's good"

[Anonymous No.8422596]

>>8422584
Lol at the idea that people should only be able to make a product if the people who first made that product lived in close geographic proximity to their current location

[Anonymous No.8422599]

>>8422596
I can call my cheese an attack helicopter but that doesn't make it so

[Anonymous No.8422600]

>>8422586
No, I was telling you to base your arguments on the quality of the product rather than whining about laboratories.
I was just pointing out how your rhetoric made you look dumb, not defending anything

[Anonymous No.8422602]

>>8422599
You should judge cheese on its taste, not the physical location it was produced on and how close that location is to where the first people who made a similar product were

[Anonymous No.8422604]

>>8422583
sorry all the cheese you ate from wisconsin was the stuff you bought at gas station counters while paying for your gas. i lived in small ass towns and even there the grocery stores there had, along with the tons of decent but not great cheese, selections of things like brie or stilton blues etc, made in wisconsin. seriously, stop posting because you sound like an idiot lol

[Anonymous No.8422616]

>>8422600
It's the same argument. Quality food does not come out of a laboratory. We already know how to make delicious stuff out of top notch ingredients. Where the labs come in is when we need to make shit tier garbage taste acceptable to the masses and last forever without a fridge. Could Kraft devote billions of dollars to figuring out how to make maybe a little less output, but at a higher quality level? I have no doubt they could. Have they done that? No, they haven't. So "laboratories" has a stigma, and rightly so.

Sorry you got triggered by "rhetoric"

[Anonymous No.8422622]

>>8422596
Ok, except for English cheddar is superior in every possible way.

[Anonymous No.8422626]

>>8422602
>You should judge cheese on its taste, not the physical location it was produced on

Says the guy defending Wisconsin garbage because the International Association of Wisconsin International Cheese Society told him Wisconsin is teh best

[Anonymous No.8422629]

>>8422616
>Quality food does not come out of a laboratory
What a fucking backwards way to look at things. Both good and bad food can come out of a laboratory, being from a lab has nothing to do with the quality
>We already know how to make delicious stuff out of top notch ingredients
So we should never try new stuff? What?

You are now just equating labs and science with things you don't like

[Anonymous No.8422637]

>>8422629
>What a fucking backwards way to look at things

It's not backwards at all. Kraft Food Lab makes shit food. Kraft Food Lab does not make good food. Hence, quality food does not come out of a laboratory.
> Both good and bad food
> can come out of a laboratory
>can
That's what I said. Can. Does it? No. What's your point? You want to repeat the fact that, in some alternative universe, good food *could* come out of a lab even though it *does not* in this one? You want to buy out Kraft and direct all their food scientists to replicate Jasper Hill Winnemere on an industrial scale? By all means, I would applaud anyone who would do that.

But nobody will. Cry more.

[Anonymous No.8422639]

>>8422626
I have never once claimed all cheese from Wisconsin is good, or being made in Wisconsin makes a cheese good. I only stated than the majority of America's good cheese is made in the midwest (primarily Wisconsin of course, but not only there)

You are mixing up cause and effect, and this error has clearly messed with your ability to evaluate cheese quality. Do not judge a cheese based on where it is made, judge a place by whether they make good cheese, you have the whole thing backwards

[Anonymous No.8422642]

>>8422622
how so? What about being made in England makes it better than the top tier cheddar coming out of Wisconsin and Vermont?

[Anonymous No.8422644]

>>8422639
>I only stated than the majority of America's good cheese is made in the midwest (primarily Wisconsin of course, but not only there)
But that's not correct, and the only basis for this belief is that you were told it was so by the Wisconsin International Cheese Organization of International Wisconsin. It has no basis in reality.

>You are mixing up cause and effect
How so? I'd love it if Wisconsin made great cheese. But it doesn't. It's the go-to state for institutional-grade shredder bags. And, for commodity-grade cheese, they are king. But for good cheese? Keep dreaming. I literally do mean that, please keep dreaming, perhaps some day if Wisconsin works hard they might shed their reputation. But that's decades off.

[Anonymous No.8422649]

>>8422637
>It's not backwards at all. Kraft Food Lab makes shit food. Kraft Food Lab does not make good food. Hence, quality food does not come out of a laboratory.
ok, but thats just because Kraft makes cheap shit, it has nothing to do with laboratories or science voodoo you seem concerned with. Plus this has nothing to even do with Wisconsin cheese, Kraft is more of a coastie thing, Wisconsin eats Sargento as their cheap tier cheese, which while mediocre is actual cheese at least.

Also, you are still ignoring how agriculture as a whole is a laboratory, and always has been

[Anonymous No.8422660]

>>8422644
>But that's not correct, and the only basis for this belief is that you were told it was so by the Wisconsin International Cheese Organization of International Wisconsin. It has no basis in reality.
Where the fuck do you think the good cheese is made in America if not the midwest? There are a few good guys in upstate New York and Vermont, and pretty much none anywhere else, the vast majority is based in Wisconsin because thats where the industry has traditionally been based leading to top tier dairy education programs which has lead to more people who know what they are doing and choose to make top tier cheese. There is just more of it there, most people in other regions don't fucking attempt to open a creamery, its just not a thing in most of America

[Anonymous No.8422664]

>>8422649
What voodoo are you referring to?

>agriculture as a whole is a laboratory

You could call almost any industry a "laboratory" if you use a loose enough definition of laboratory. The automotive industry for instance. So if I decide to fly instead of driving, by your logic it means I hate science. This kind of bizarro logic gives science a bad name and you should stop that.

[Anonymous No.8422670]

>>8422642
>What about being made in England makes it better than the top tier cheddar coming out of Wisconsin and Vermont?

Vermont does make some cheddar that is on par with England, unfortunately we're talking about Wisconsin right now, which does not.

[Anonymous No.8422671]

>>8422664
>You could call almost any industry a "laboratory" i
TO an extent yeah, but not nearly as much as agriculture.
But essentially that is my point, being based in science is a good and normal thing, and not something to be feared because it doesn't sound hip and natural enough

[Anonymous No.8422675]

>>8422670
What are you basing this off of? Wisconsin makes some amazing cheddar, surely more than Vermont and its white cheddar marketing bullshit

[Anonymous No.8422676]

>>8422660
New Hampshire, Vermont, upstate NY, eastern Mass, Marin and Humboldt in California, and parts of Oregon and Washington State.

[Anonymous No.8422683]

>>8422676
What does this list even mean?

[Anonymous No.8422687]

>>8422676
Just because you have a couple niche cheesemakers doesn't make you a top cheese producing region

[Anonymous No.8422695]

>>8422671
Science is a tool, something being based in science is neither good nor bad, it's dangerous to ascribe these magical values to a tool, you are treating it like a church or something. It's a form of dangerous and misleading idolatry to worship a tool as though it was a fundamental good.

[Anonymous No.8422709]

>>8422676
>west coast cheese
lol

[Anonymous No.8422714]

>>8422687
But that's just the thing. This is a list of the good cheeses at my local grocery store, counted by geographic origin. Of course upstate NY or Marin County can't hope to match the output of mediocre cheese made in WI. But you asked about where the good cheese comes from. Not the top cheese production.

[Anonymous No.8422716]

>>8422695
>Science is a tool, something being based in science is neither good nor bad, i
Yeah, thats exactly why I called you out for saying a laboratory food was inherently bad

[Anonymous No.8422721]

>>8422716
Saying laboratory food is inherently bad isn't the same as saying a laboratory is inherently bad. You sound like some middle eastern politician, throwing around blasphemy accusations because someone said something you didn't like.

[Anonymous No.8422724]

>>8422714
Upstate New York is bigger than Wisconsin though

I am talking about where most good cheese comes from. California a state of like 50 million people having a very small handful of good cheesemakers doesn't make it a good cheese region

[Anonymous No.8422726]

>>8422721
>Saying laboratory food is inherently bad isn't the same as saying a laboratory is inherently bad
I think it kind of is

[Anonymous No.8422731]

>>8422724
You can get worked up about population or that's not in my Wisconsin International Association of Wisconsin International Cheese Society brochure, but the good cheese in NY state isn't from midtown Manhattan, and the good cheese from CA isn't from downtown LA. I hope you can understand that both states are pretty big and spread out, and it doesn't all look the same.

[Anonymous No.8422737]

>>8422726
Go pray to Dawkins about it

[Anonymous No.8422741]

>>8422737
What?

[Anonymous No.8422745]

>>8422731
Yeah, and most of Wisconsin's good cheese isn't made in Milwaukee (besides Clock Shadow Creamery)

[Anonymous No.8422754]

>>8422745
>Wisconsin's good cheese
You mean the cheese that doesn't exist?

[Anonymous No.8422764]

>>8421903

Supporting this statement: "goulash" from the Little Bohemia Tavern in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.

[Anonymous No.8422767]

>>8422764

[Anonymous No.8422774]

>>8422500
>>8422512
>>8422517

I'll contribute an anecdote here.

I lived in Kansas City for eight years. (Whether you consider that part of the Midwest or the South is up to you.) One day, my team at work was going out for lunch, and I suggested a place in the River Market area called Habashi House. Middle Eastern fare: falafel, shawarma, etc.

Out of a team of ten people, three were too uncertain about trying something new, and opted instead for the burrito joint next door. This would have been around 2006.

[Anonymous No.8422779]

>>8422774

I'm sorry, not 2006 - more like 2011. Had to rethink the timeline a bit.

[Anonymous No.8422784]

>>8422774
Missouri is a weird place. St Louis is kinda midwestern, KC is more great plains and everything in between is straight up southern.

I do think in general the great plains are more in line with /ck/ coastie stereotypes of the midwest than the actual midwest is though as its a much more rural region

[Anonymous No.8422793]

>>8422774
If the concept of chicken and rice is too foreign for them, there's no hope for them.

[Anonymous No.8422809]

>>8422774
were they old people?

[Anonymous No.8422811]

>>8422774
>Middle Eastern fare: falafel, shawarma
>lacks cheese

I think I found your problem

[Anonymous No.8422820]

>>8422414
I feel shame when I'm above 220.. and I'm 6'3

[Anonymous No.8422836]

>>8422784

Yeah, St. Louis is bigger and somewhat more cosmopolitan in general than KC. I considered moving there but escaped to Connecticut instead.

>>8422809

Not especially. This team was all late-20's to late-30's.

>>8422811

I think they were just scared to try something that they didn't know. I was disappointed, though, that they weren't even willing to find out.

[Anonymous No.8422844]

>>8422774
>Live in midwest
>All the middle eastern places near me inevitably close after like a year
>tfw no falafel, no shwarma, no kebab
I've got the falafeels

[Anonymous No.8422851]

>>8422774
Yeah, I can relate. I lived in KC for awhile and they were not adventurous people when it comes to food, at all. Although I thought that was changing. My nieces and nephews live there, and they brew their own beer and are willing to try anything food related. But they all have college degrees and most are doing post-graduate work.

I think that's the key. An increase in education level, more prominent on the coasts, results in a more broadminded view of the world, which of course includes food.

[Anonymous No.8422852]

>>8422836
I bet they wouldn't have been scared to try it if it came with mounds of shredded cheese melted on top.

[Anonymous No.8422865]

>>8422851

I will say that KC has (of course) awesome barbecue. I'd actually gotten sick of it by the time I decided to leave, though. Cuisine-wise they're pretty much a one-trick pony, but they do it well. No barbecue I've had in Connecticut comes close.

I think the sheer density of people on the coasts, though, and the adjacency of different cultures in tight spaces (esp. on the East Coast) works in tandem with the increased level of education. There are restaurants in this state for practically every kind of food.

[Anonymous No.8422870]

>>8422844
Really? I have like 4 middle eastern places in walking distance of me in a super white neighborhood

[Anonymous No.8423003]

What the fuck are you spergs even talking about

[Anonymous No.8423014]

>>8420867
>he can't handle cheese
Hon hon hon brownie detected

[Anonymous No.8423015]

>autism over cheese

[Anonymous No.8423024]

>>8423014
FUG. I miss raclette from my trip to Europe. The only other time I had it was, strangely, in Japan. It's hands-down one of my favorite cheeses.

[Anonymous No.8423035]

Move aside plebs, God tier cheese coming through.

[Anonymous No.8423463]

>>8423035
Pleb. If it's not Páramo de Guzmán, you might as well be eating Kraft Singles

[Anonymous No.8424041]

>>8423463

Don't talk rubbish, the Spanish cannot make cheese.

[Anonymous No.8424644]

>>8422764

I'd still eat it.

[Anonymous No.8424653]

>>8422529
>annatto

>>8422577
Cheddar is a real cheese. What you're posting isn't.

[Anonymous No.8424665]

There's a difference between small town Midwest, country Midwest and city midwest. The city and farmland folk are thinner and the small podunk town people are fat af. The farmers are usually skinny until their 40s thw city people are just city people.

[Anonymous No.8424766]

>>8423035
>>8423463
>>8424041
Do they have animals aside of cows in England? How do you make a good cheese with only cow milk? To me that seems like something tipical of fast food hamburgues, not a good cheese for eating.

[Anonymous No.8424798]

>>8424766
OBSESSED

[Anonymous No.8424827]

>>8421903
>and anything nicer than cheesecake factory is pretentious.

Don't remind me of the people I grew up with :'(

[Anonymous No.8425071]

>>8422622
English cheddar isn't even the best cheddar in Britain.

[Anonymous No.8425321]

>>8421903
I have this mentality desu senpai....

[Anonymous No.8425322]

>>8425071
Do they age their cheese under a pile of dirt?

[Anonymous No.8425330]

>lives in Missouri
>Currently watching football (go Hawks)
>Cheesy bacon dip and pretzels

[Anonymous No.8425332]

>>8422499
This meme

[Anonymous No.8425429]

>>8425071

>thinking Mull is actually part of Britain.

[Anonymous No.8425472]

>>8420925
>french cuisine is full of butter and cheese
Not really. cheese is eaten with bread bt rarely in a dish.
while butter is the prefered fat to cook meat it's not "add 2 pak of butter and mix with lard before stuffing the bacon" kind of use.

[Anonymous No.8425476]

>>8422577
cheddar is such a bland, entry tier cheese it barely count unless you have kids at the table.

[Anonymous No.8425483]

>>8425476

Stop buying your "cheddar" at Wal-mart and get the real thing. It's anything but "bland".

[Anonymous No.8425485]

>>8425476
Stop eating plastic cheddar. You're like those people who try the bottom shelf product of X type of food or drink then complain how all varieties of that food/drink suck.

[Anonymous No.8425491]

>>8420867
>not eating a keto diet full of all the cheese you can eat.

Fucking get with the times grandpa

[Anonymous No.8425525]

Mid west won the election for Trump. Now they will feel the nu-males hyper feminine passive aggression.

[Anonymous No.8425539]

>>8425491
>mfw cheesy omelettes every single day

[Anonymous No.8425547]

>>8425539
Cheese and eggs is one of my most hated combinations.

I can't taste anything but cheese.

[Anonymous No.8425552]

>>8425547
i don't know if what i'm about to say is banal, but put the cheese in the omelette once the egg is already cooking, right before you flip one half over the other

i know someone who just mixes it into the raw egg before anything touches the pan and it's awful

[Anonymous No.8425567]

>>8425552
No, just in general. Doesn't matter where I order an omelet be it a denny's or some place that only makes omelets, I simply can't stand it.

Cheese in Crepes, burritos, and tacos is also another thing I hate.

[Anonymous No.8425572]

>>8425567
maybe you have some kind of overarching problem with cheese because there is objectively NOTHING wrong with cheese in tacos and burritos

[Anonymous No.8425633]

>>8422480
Mozzerella, feta, etc. has no mold. You're retarded. Some mold is ok but there's no culinary cool boy points for shitting on le americans plastic cheez X'D especially when your culture normalized eating horribly moldy slime out of desperation

>literal poverty diet is so superior, please give me internet asspats

[Anonymous No.8425643]

>>8425633
>mozzerella
Well, at least they have the decency to not spell it exactly the same. But I still think it's pretty shady. Does the WIDF have no decency?

[Anonymous No.8425715]

>>8425643
Besides the fact you caught a typo, your comment is completely useless. What the fuck are you even trying to say?

[Anonymous No.8426210]

>>8422351
The McChicken

[Anonymous No.8426216]

>>8422439
Do people actually say sacrebleu in France?

[Anonymous No.8426253]

I don't eat cheese at all. it is one of the only foods I won't eat.

It is so worthless as a food. It is basically saturated fat and water.

[Anonymous No.8426263]

>>8426253
As an ingredient, yes.

But as pic related it's quite delicious.

[Anonymous No.8426266]

>>8426253
but it tastes good
Its a perfect mixture of salt, glutamate and fat

[Anonymous No.8426310]

>>8426266
beans and salt tastes the same. So I eat that. Much healthier, too.

[Anonymous No.8426327]

>>8426310
>beans and salt tastes the same
lol what?

[Anonymous No.8426344]

>>8426310
>all those fucking carbs
i'd rather eat cheese and a multivitamin

[Anonymous No.8426346]

>>8426327
The guy eats cheese. Do you really think he has any idea on what plain beans taste like?