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https://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/mar/04/animal-protein-diets-smoking-meat-eggs-dairy

>People under 65 who eat a lot of meat, eggs and dairy are four times as likely to die from cancer or diabetes, study suggests

So why aren't you a vegan yet /ck/? Just love the taste of meat too much? Because it's "natural" to eat meat? Reminder that natural does not equal good or healthy. You're just too addicted to meat and dairy to stop, that's the only reason. Admit it.

>> No.8405974

>>8405969
Boring bait post.
Anyone posting here henceforth is a faggot.

>> No.8405975
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8405975

>Get to eat delicious meat and die quicker

What's the downside here?

>> No.8406021

>>8405969
The oldest woman in the world (117, lives in Italy) has eaten 2-3 eggs every day of her life, and ate mostly meat and eggs when she was younger. She said in her birthday interview this year that she never really liked vegetables and rarely ate them.
IT'S ALL GENETICS AND PURE DUMB LUCK, FUCK YOU VEGAN SCUM.

>> No.8406034

>>8405969
>eat a lot
=/=eating any at all
Maybe eat some of those carrots and get that beta carotene you blind idiot

>> No.8406057

>>8406021
That's one person, which means nothing. Studies are based on statistical analysis of thousand or millions of people.
Vegans live the longest. Meat eaters die the youngest. That's a fact.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okinawa_diet
Diet low in meat and high in fruits and vegetables = highest life expectancy in the world.

But of course, you ignore facts. Because you want to continue to eat meat, so you rationalize why you should. That's all. Just a simple mind with simple desires. Funny, huh?

>> No.8406066

>>8406034
The reasons for being a vegan are more than just health benefits, my man. But you didn't consider that, because you don't care about anything other than yourself.

>> No.8406070
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8406070

I never asked to be born in the first place, so why would I be interested in autistically min-maxing my lifestyle to extend my life as far as possible?

>> No.8406071

>>8406057
Wikipedia is not a real source you imbecile

>> No.8406073

>>8406071
No, it's a statistical analysis of thousand or millions of people.

>> No.8406074

>>8406071
If you weren't a complete moron, you'd know that Wikipedia references the credible sources at the bottom of every page.

>> No.8406079

>>8405969
>Reminder that natural does not equal good or healthy

Says the vegan cucks always looking for 'organic' on the label and discrediting GMO food stuffs.

>> No.8406081

>>8406074
>you'd know that Wikipedia references the credible sources

>credible sources

>implying the wikipedia page author can interpret references correctly and doesn't cherry pick and choose sources with less than credible credentials

>> No.8406083

>>8406074
Being on wikipedia does not make a source credible cockfag

>> No.8406084

>>8406079
Stawman

>> No.8406086

>>8406081
Why are you even posting this? There is no dispute about the contents of the Wikipedia article I linked. Google Okinawa diet yourself and read the studies and articles about it. The more meat and dairy you eat = the sooner you will die. It's that simple.

>> No.8406087

>>8405969
>However, nutrition experts have cautioned that it's too early to draw firm conclusions from the research.
>The overall harmful effects seen in the study were almost completely wiped out when the protein came from plant sources, such as beans and legumes, though cancer risk was still three times as high in middle-aged people who ate a protein-rich diet, compared with those on a low-protein diet.
>But whereas middle-aged people who consumed a lot of animal protein tended to die younger from cancer, diabetes and other diseases, the same diet seemed to protect people's health in old age.

If youre going to die from cancer anyway, why not get it from animal sources, which protect your overall health?

>> No.8406090

>>8406081
>>8406083
>im going to avoid things that contradict my personal biases

Human nature I suppose

>> No.8406093

>>8406087
Reminder that is one study among thousands which confirm the health benefits of a vegan diet and the negative health effects of a meat and dairy diet.

>> No.8406095

Oh shit, is it that time of the year when eggs are bad for you again?

>> No.8406096

>>8406090
Shut up shitcuck any association with wikipedia literally vodes all credability

>> No.8406115

>>8406093
You didnt even post the proper study, you just posted a sentence while ignoring the rest of the study. But what do you expect from a cunt that equates life expectancy with quality of life?

>> No.8406180

OP, this may scare you but you are going to die, and there is no escape from it. There's a good chance it'll be some kind of cancer, but if you're lucky you may drop dead from a heart problem or even be taken early in some kind of accident, disaster or war. I don't want to fuck up your day I just think it's important for people to understand and accept the fact so they can really begin to enjoy life (responsibly).

>> No.8406189

>>8406057
>which means nothing.
neither do "chances to get".
If it's neither 0 nor 100%, then it's irelevant in the perspective of one person's life.

>> No.8406190

Because I don't care about my health and neither should you.

>> No.8406193

>>8405969
Oh man, instead of a .02% chance to get terminal cancer I'll have a .08% chance!

>> No.8406288

the only vegans who actually live past 65 are those genetic freaks who can survive on literally any diet and live cancer-free until a bus runs them over at the age of 104. they could also smoke 2 packs of cigarettes a day and not get cancer.

>> No.8406300

>>8406193
Hot damn!

>> No.8406325

>>8405969

This is true, the western vegans don't even make it to 65.

>> No.8406332

>>8405969
>Just love the taste of meat too much?
Yes.

>> No.8406340

>>8405969
Even if I wasn't addicted, I don't have the money to be vegan, and i'm not going to live off beans or rice because that's no way to live. Vegetables are just too fucking expensive

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>>8405969
>die from cancer or diabetes

the vegans develop depression and blow their brains out long before cancer or diabetes could get to them.

>> No.8406392

>>8405969
You're 500 times more likely to get rammed by a car if you go in a town and have to cross roads

So why aren't you a wise hermit dwelling in the woods yet? Just love the smell of gasoline too much? Because it's "natural" to live in a town? Reminder that urban does not equal good or healthy. You're just too addicted to your city life to stop, that's the only reason. Admit it.

>> No.8406421

Already a vegetarian, see no reason to go vegan

>> No.8406442

Have fune living forever on this shitty planet. Hope you starve to death in the future apocalyptic chaos.

Take heed of >>8405975

>> No.8406505

>>8405969
>Just love the taste of meat too much?
ye

>> No.8406515

>>8405969
I am not a homosexual and I like good food.

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BECAUSE I'M SO FUCKIN READY TO DIE BITCH

>> No.8406754

>>8406392
Terrible analogy. You can't compare being vegan to being a complete recluse. Literally all you have to do is eat a diet rich in whole grains, plant-based protein sources, and fruits and veggies.

I could see how that could be difficult if you never ate these foods growing up, but it's really such a small part of your life. For most people it should be easy to make this change, unless literally all you eat is meat and dairy (which is extremely unhealthy even compared to moderate meat eaters).

>> No.8406785

I wonder if these people realize that your brain objectively needs things you can't get from plants to function optimally.

>> No.8406795

>>8406785
We've advanced beyond needing to be intelligent as a society, so I doubt that matters.

>> No.8406804

>>8406073
>>8406074
Sure, like the time I was reading about Florence Italy, and it credited it's name to Florence Nightingale. Yeah. So FUCKING RELIABLE.

>> No.8406817

>If you eat a dozen eggs every day and chase it down with premade, preservative and sodium filled sausages, you might have cardiovascular problems!
gee i wonder

>> No.8406834

>>8406074
Wikipedia is having an issue of citing sources that cite Wikipedia, so cyclical fucking citations are worthless. It's a half-step from circlejerking.

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>>8406795
>We've advanced beyond needing to be intelligent as a society

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8406857

>>8406795
STERILIZE YOURSELF IMMEDIATELY.

>> No.8406912

>>8405969
i will admit you are a faggot OP people over the age of 65 still alive because they ate meat and vegetables and are STILL alive... take your retarded thinking elsewhere.

>> No.8406922

>>8406912
>there are people over the age of 65 who eat meat and are still alive
>there are people over the age of 65 who smoke and are still alive
>there are people over the age of 65 who are alcoholics and are still alive

fucking dumbass