/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.8190597]

How long can sushi be a room temperature?

I left a sushi place and took some of my lunch with me in the car, and there was huge traffic, took me two and a half hours to get home. The car is air conditioned and so forth, but, should I throw it out? Probably a total of three hours it was not refrigerated.

It's lobster and yellowtail maki.

[Anonymous No.8190626]

>>8190597
That's probably too long. 30 minutes or so, ok, but 3 hours? If it were me I'd stir fry it.

t. Caught salmonella from sushi once and it was as hellish as you can imagine. Incapacitated for 3 days, only 100% after 2 weeks.

[Anonymous No.8190628]

>>8190626
Okay, thanks. I'll for sure toss the yellowtail maki then. What about the lobster maki? That's cooked, probably okay or don't risk it since it was in the same box as the yellowtail?

[Anonymous No.8190629]

It will be fine, just eat it

[Anonymous No.8190630]

if you marinate everything in vinegar, you could leave it all out at room temp for like 13 hours

[Anonymous No.8190633]

>>8190630
I didn't though. It was just some leftovers from my lunch I took with me. However it came out. It was fresh stuff from a quality restaurant, but, I don't know how fast bacteria can grow.

[Anonymous No.8190635]

>>8190633
rule of thumb is brown-bag lunch

you can pack it at 7 am and eat it at 12 noon

anything beyond that, who knows.

[Anonymous No.8190640]

sushi wont go bad that fast if its from a good place

[Anonymous No.8190662]

rip OP

[Anonymous No.8190667]

>>8190635
>>8190640
Thanks, I'm a bit scared so might eat the lobster maki but not the yellowtail.

[Anonymous No.8190682]

>>8190667
I don't follow. Wasn't it all made at the same time at the restaurant?

[Anonymous No.8190702]

>>8190682
Yeah, but lobster was cooked, yellowtail raw.

[Anonymous No.8190705]

Don't be a coward. Drink a cup of hot tea before or after you have the sushi and the heat will kill the non existent bacteria

[Anonymous No.8190706]

>>8190702
Ok. So that really doesn't matter much. Cooking destroys the existing bacteria, and that's it.

[Anonymous No.8190713]

>>8190706
Ah okay.

[Anonymous No.8190717]

>>8190597
Next them ask them for a ziploc full of ice for the top. It was 2.5hrs in the car, and another 30mins at least at the restaurant off the ice/out of the fridge meats. It was introduced to bacteria (possibly) when sliced with their meat knife, and roll knife, too. Cut surfaces with food that might have been fresh, but not wiped inbetween use for a while too.

No, I wouldn't eat it. I might go 45 minutes tops. If this is a regular venture, this place. I would order food To Go near the end of your meal, versus plan leftovers off my plate. I would absolutely have an insulated lunchbox, bag of ice, frozen something on top, even a cold can of soda or order of cold edamame.

[Anonymous No.8190736]

>>8190717
Okay thank you.

I'm very mixed right now but leaning toward not eating it. Now two people have scared me.

[Anonymous No.8190740]

>>8190597
if it smells okay, eat it

[Anonymous No.8190742]

>>8190597
Salmonella is one of the fastest multiplying bacteria and takes about a half hour to multiply under optimal conditions. Unless the fish was questionable in the first place three hours isn't long enough for it to reach dangerous amounts.

[Anonymous No.8190743]

>>8190740
>thinking smell is a good judge

[Anonymous No.8190752]

>>8190736
eat it and report back with shitty news

[Anonymous No.8190755]

>>8190597
I've gone about the same amount of time in bad heat but it was in the trunk. I just let it chill in the fridge for a bit and ate it.

I don't think it's as big a health risk as people are saying unless you have a really weak immune system. Then again I don't eat sushi at dodgy places to begin with.

Eat it, don't eat it. Up to you.

[Anonymous No.8190764]

>>8190736
Yeah, not big on wasting food myself, but salmonella is unbelievably bad. After I had it, I understand how people die from it. Every particle of your body aches excrutiatingl for days, even after you shit and vomit all the food out of your system. You can't sleep for the pain and fever, just lay there in a kind of hallucinatory hell.

[Anonymous No.8190781]

>>8190736
food poisoning from fish is one of the worst, gut-wrenching, painful, rapid onset kind of things. No amount of money is worth it.

>>8190742
>Salmonella
Why is this what you think would be wrong? Beef, poultry, eggs? I don't think so. I'm look at everything else first.

[Anonymous No.8190823]

>>8190743
fish only smells fishy if it's off, no?

[Anonymous No.8190865]

>>8190823
no

[Anonymous No.8190972]

>>8190597
Taste one.

Wait a few hours. Are you shitting liquid?

No?

Continue.

Yes?

Continue.

It's just a tiny amount of fucking fish. The worst you'll get is dysentry.

Fucking hell, why is even so poor.

Eat it or throw it away, it makes no difference if you live in a first world country.

[Anonymous No.8191060]

>>8190972
>is that wild mushroom safe? Eat one, wait a couple hours. No seizures or internal bleeding? Try another one.

It's a wonder humans haven't gone extinct yet.

[Anonymous No.8191072]

Is that wild dog safe to pet

Pet it and wait a few hours

[Anonymous No.8191084]

According to the FDA food can only be at room temp for 2 hours, and it has 1 more hour to be below 41.
That being said, if it's bad, you can tell. It will look slimy or it will smell off, or both. You'll be fine if you eat it.

[Anonymous No.8191525]

I ate it. How long until I'm dead?

[Anonymous No.8191535]

>>8191525
Did it taste any different than earlier?

[Anonymous No.8191551]

>>8191535
Just the normal "when sushi has been refrigerated and the rice gets a bit dry" different. The fish tasted fine.

[Anonymous No.8191560]

>>8191551
you should've smelled it. millions of years of evolution won't lie. if it smells like you don't want to eat it, you probably shouldn't

[Anonymous No.8191568]

>>8191560
Oh I did smell it first. It looked and smelled normal.

[Anonymous No.8191592]

>>8190597
Protein generally lasts 4 hours above refrigeration.

[Anonymous No.8191612]

>>8190597
Depends on how hearty your digestive system is. I'd say go for it.

[Anonymous No.8191710]

>>8190626
But that colon cleanse though

[Anonymous No.8191755]

>>8191060
No joke, that's how a lot of manuals say you should test mushrooms if you're in a do or die situation.

The toxins are gonna hit you fast (within hours).

So will food poisoning.

[Anonymous No.8191759]

>>8191525
>>8191072

Thata boy.

[Anonymous No.8191846]

4 hours absolute maximum. Don't assume that the refrigeration was cold enough (41F or less), that the pH of the sushi rice was low enough to keep bacteria from growing, that the employee was preparing it hygenically, etc.

A good share of sushi places I've inspected have problems following their HACCP plans and written procedures.

[Anonymous No.8191851]

>>8191755
>The toxins are gonna hit you fast (within hours).
The most deadly ones can have no obvious effect for 24 hours. Liver failure is a very slow and painful death.

[Anonymous No.8191862]

>>8191851
With this one it can take weeks before you notice your kidneys are fucked.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orellani

[Anonymous No.8192783]

I'm still alive guys. Looks like I dodged a bullet.

[Anonymous No.8192790]

>>8191072
was he a good boy?

[Anonymous No.8192797]

>>8190597

I would personally eat it without a second thought, but I don't want to advise you one way or the other because food poisoning is some serious shit and can be fatal.