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8075232 No.8075232 [Reply] [Original]

I'm going to be a father, /ck/.

How do I raise my child not to be a picky eater?

>> No.8075241

>>8075232
>>8075232
send them to bed hungry a few nights if they don't want what you offer and pretty soon they will be eating like a champ, you welcome

>> No.8075245

>>8075232
When he starts getting in to solid food try giving him as many different goods as you can. My baby will eat ANYTHING even stuff like tofu

>> No.8075251

>>8075245
>this

>>8075241
>not this

>> No.8075252

For children who are picky eaters it's usually a power play. They cannot control much in their lives, but they can control what they will and won't eat. So don't make a big deal out of picky behavior. Kids often need to be exposed to a food several times before they will eat it.

>> No.8075254

>>8075251
Why are you greentexting your direct response

>> No.8075255

When I was a kid I would eat anything. Then one day I got chicken pox and became a ridiculously picky eater. Sometimes you can't control it OP but the best way is to let them try as many different foods and ingredients as you can get.

>> No.8075256

Bargain strats my friend.
>but I don't want to eat my broccoli!
>tell you what kiddo, if you eat half your broccoli you get a brownie for dessert.

then the next time you he complains you tell em to eat all of it if he wants dessert.

>> No.8075257

>>8075232
You tell your child that he's eating for free and if he won't listen, you threaten your child that you'll put him through the fucking wall.

>> No.8075308

>>8075245
Most babies will

>> No.8075314

>>8075251
Who are you quoting, friend?

>> No.8075319

>>8075257
/thread

>> No.8075351

Kill if picky
Breed again
Repeat until success

>> No.8075364

>>8075241
I don't understand why this is such a common response to OP's kind of question. It doesn't help at all. A friend of mine is the pickiest eater I have ever met and his father did this. There were times where he didn't let him leave the table until he ate all his vegetables either, even if he had homework to do, and he would just sit there until it was time to go to bed. Guess what? It didn't change anything. He still refuses to eat anything other than potatoes now and it makes cooking a nightmare whenever he comes around.

>> No.8075377

>>8075364
Well, any vegetables other than potatoes I should say. Won't eat any fruits either.

>> No.8075384

Hit them

The severity will be based on how much of said food they will not eat. A whole plate? Belt to the face. A few pieces like broccoli or peas? Belt to the face.

They might hate you in the end, but hey, they ate the goddamn food.

>> No.8075392

>>8075364
Everything tastes good when you're hungry

>> No.8075408

>>8075392
That's not even close to true.

>> No.8075419

First and foremost... your child's diet will be a reflection of how the mother eats during her pregnancy. If the mother eats alot of fresh organic fruits and veggies every meal, it will be that much easier for the kid to eat them with you. If the mother eats nothing but kit kats and coca cola, you're in for an uphill battle. The child will also watch what you eat, so set the example and walk the walk.

t. parent

>> No.8075420

>>8075245
this.
my mom used to do this and none of us are picky eaters.
bear in mind though, small children usually avoid certain flavours. you shouldn't force your kid to eat something that tastes bitter, that belongs to the flavours you "grow into"

>> No.8075425

>>8075384
This is the way I was raised, and I came out alright, except for the crippling social anxiety and alcoholism.

>> No.8075434

>>8075408

Not that guy, but you obviously haven't been very hungry

>> No.8075447

>>8075232
I had a gag reflex as a kid, hence why I was a picky eater. Even though my parents were modern day hippy organic health libcuck nuts.

Any effort to help your child not be a picky eater may not matter at all.

>> No.8075451

>>8075447
Someone should have throat fucked you, picky bitch.

>> No.8075465

>>8075451
they did, every day of my life until I finished high school

>> No.8075497

>>8075434
Oh yea? I got lost in the woods once for three days. It was fall and there weren't any berries or anything to eat. I had fallen down a gully and lost my pack, so no shelter and no fire either. I did come accross a dead deer that was still pretty fresh, but I couldn't make myself eat any of it. I finally stumbled onto a ranch and got help. I told the homeowner I was very hungry, she offered me a hot dog while she cooked something up for me. I can't stand hot dogs and declined. I waited another 30 min for actual food.
Being very hungry does not make shitty food taste good.

>> No.8075501
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8075501

Stir fry their vegetables.

If you do it right the fat calories added are minimal (you only need half a tbsp of oil, around 7 ml), the sodium minimal, while retaining all the health benefits in the vegetables.

>> No.8075524

>>8075497

Guess you weren't that hungry then. 3 days is not that long. Try a week or more, youd probably be eating that deer raw

>> No.8075540

>>8075419
Only reasonable response in the thread.
Also I was a picky eater when I was younger. I feel like a lot of kids are, just the way it is.
I eventually grew out of it in my teens and started trying new things.

>> No.8075552

>>8075524
That wouldn't make it taste good.

>> No.8075562

>>8075232
Coworkers daughter will not eat anything if it has a bone attached to the meat.

No fried chicken (tenders yes). No ribs. No pork chops.


She claims its because she had a bad experience, but I know that's bull since when she started here we would go out to eat different foods and she would never eat her meals.

>> No.8075566
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8075566

Proper food presentation make everything more appealing on the plate.

>> No.8075604

Teacher fag here

Don't make eating a punishment, you fucking idiots. If I treat food like an adventure with one kid and one kid associates food he doesn't like with being or punished, who do you think will be the picky eater?

Anything you eat 10 times will start to taste good, so start early with giving them different food. Make it exciting and awesome.
"Goddamn son, i bought this new cheese! Let's compare it to the cheese we usually eat! What do you think?"

Or

"Either you eat this moldy piece of shit that smells like my taint or I'll slap the shit out of you!"

>> No.8075626

>>8075604
Autocorrect slaughtered that sentence. And the last part should be in the beginning. You get my point though.

>> No.8075628

You let him play unreal tournament.

>> No.8075636

>>8075497
What a nice story.
Can't wait for the the next installment of "things that never happened".

>> No.8075658

>>8075636
>I do not recognize pasta when I see it
Lurk moar, newfaggot.

>> No.8075669

>>8075566
Wa La!

>> No.8075686

>>8075232
If you tell them certain foods are gross, they'll believe you. So just pretend to enjoy everything.

>> No.8075692

>>8075408
>>8075497
>confirmed for never having done manual labor

>> No.8075694

>>8075658
>>8075636

That's not copypasta.
That actually happened to me and it still gives me nightmares. You can even look it up, I made the local paper. I was in the Flat Tops in northern Colorado.

>> No.8075764

>>8075692
Again, nice try.
I'm a farmer and I live on a homestead. I grow my own food (including livestock) and I heat the house with a wood stove. I'm a very active person.

>> No.8075774

>>8075764
How are you posting here? The family woodfired telegraph?

>> No.8075823

>>8075774
Obviously I have internet. I don't live in a cave. I'm 25 min from a grocery store in a small town, I'm not posting from Mars.

>> No.8075876

>>8075364
Because it works for a lot of kids who are usually fussing for reasons other than taste. Your retarded friend isn't necessarily a common example. Besides, when people get really, seriously hungry they will give in and eat pretty much anything. Your friend's father should have refused him all other meals other than whatever food he was rejecting.

And to OP: make sure your kid's mom has a healthy, diverse diet throughout her pregnancy (as much as can be managed) and as she breastfeeds. After that, make sure the kid samples a lot of foods.

>> No.8075924

>>8075232

Kids will give more of a damn about what they eat and be more willing to eat what is served if they are involved in the cooking/baking process. A bit of pride and involvement goes a long way.

>> No.8075928

every time they dont eat the food, arrest them and send them to kid jail

the whole nine yards, cuff em, work the liver and kidneys, read them their rights (lol none fagit), meat truck them to the cuckshed

then you have to be their shedmate and have your other buddy arrest YOU, while acreaming "am i being detained fuck you pigs"

once you are in make him est the wood chips

>> No.8075933

>>8075425
i hear a belt to the face cures both of those.

>> No.8075946

My grandparents never let me leave the table unless I had finished what was on my plate. That worked fine for me.

>> No.8075950

>>8075232
As he grows up continue to always give your kid a variety of meals so that he/she never clings to one type of food like chicken nuggets or grows a distaste for something because he/she has it too often. If you're going through economical trouble and have no option to keep things varying, stick to something like beans and rice rather than cheap microwavable 'kid's food'.

Teaching your kid how to to cook is also very good when they're a little older, because if they're on their own they may resort to eating shitty stuff and developing a habits.

>> No.8075967

>>8075254
>>8075314
>being this new

>>8075232
always expose them to new foods from day 1, prepare the food PROPERLY, and always have them try at least a bit of whatever new food you can.

>> No.8075983

>>8075232
Don't ask them if they liked it, don't bring the thought of disliking food up at all. A lot of parents seems to incessantly ask whether the kids like the food or not and they learn to respond the way the parent expect them to.

>> No.8075989

>>8075967
>>being this new
It was done wrong in that post even for the accepted uses outside of quoting.

>> No.8076024

>>8075241
This. Worked for me. I'd go about 2-3 days without eating until it kicked in. Also didn't help that I was poor and sometimes ate out of dumpsters as a kid, but starvation does the trick.

>> No.8076325

>>8075232
Variety of foods
Make sure junk-food is only ever a treat NEVER a replacement for something they dislike, offering a fairly dull and healthy alternative encourages them to try.

>> No.8076326

>>8075245
this

also never make food traumatizing

if it doesn't want to eat something let it go and don't make them "finish their plate" or some shit

then they'll grow up picky AND fat

>> No.8076333

>>8076325
>Make sure junk-food is only ever a treat
I agree with this but it also shouldn't be treated as taboo. I notice that people who make a big deal about their kids eating junk food also raise kids with food issues. Junk should be a rare thing and really it should be made out to be something that isn't quite ideal (if that makes sense) because the more taboo it is, the more kids want it.

Anecdote: had a friend who was raised by parents who insisted that everything be healthy and organic and all that shit. The second he got out on his own he downed junk food more than anyone I had ever seen.

>> No.8076439

>>8075241
This is a pretty bad idea honestly.
I got this treatment when I wouldn't eat my vegeta bulls. When I wouldn't eat them, my parents got mad so I started throwing the shit I didn't like in the trash or literally throwing it behind the couch since I was forced to eat it all the time and I didn't want to but didn't want to make my parents yell at me either. Even grown up I still don't like just vegetables but I can tolerate anything that's not string beans or peppers for the sake of not being an autist. Ironically though, I used to hate broccoli the most but now I love it and it's just about the only vegetable I eat (willingly). I kind of hate stews though.

In short, if your kid hates something, trying to get them to eat it is fine, but making it into a big ordeal has a chance of making it much worse.

>> No.8076445

>>8075256

why the fuck are you treating your kid like a fucking dog?

>> No.8076452

>>8076445
Should I treat him like a cat? Train dumb like dumb.

>> No.8076467

>>8076452

You're setting him up for misery dude, he will do everything he doesn't want to waiting a reward from you by the end of it, when you stop the treaties you'll risk having a little rebel, or worse, spoiled.

Just wait a couple of days, say a couple of no, don't starve him, he will eat it sometime. Kid's taste buds are not like ours. Brocolli, onion, actually taste really bad for them.

>> No.8076490

>>8076467
Just got to make it to 17, then he's society's problem.

>> No.8076512

>>8075232
You dont.
You raise them, to the best of YOUR ability to become a self reliant individual of modern society and make good life choices (but dont be a pussy about it, son).
And, after you fuck that alllll up. If they don't OD on the latest elephant tranquilizer heroin "za", no worries.
Mom's gonna teach them how child support works
Child support ? it's just the new hipster word for her alimoney pocket cash for your diapers/her fix and she has a date tonight, so here's a biscuit and some mustard and get your ass back down in the cellar, night sweetie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-kZlBzvn6c

No worriez Bro, you got this

>> No.8076549

Set up a rule such as that they must try everything on their plate. Three bites, 2 bites, whatever.
Enforce the rule, explain it's okay to not like some food but they still have to try it (if there are foods you don't like, make a point to try them too).
If there's something like onions, potato, broccoli, etc that kids generally don't like have them try it every once in a while but not every time because in all likelihood they aren't going to like it for a while.
If they throw a fit and refuse, tell them they can go to bed.
If they try everything as asked, and say they don't like it, tell them they can have a healthy alternative (if they try it without a fit, thank them for trying) such as some baby carrots, yogurt, etc. Nothing all that interesting, but stuff that will suffice.
If there's dessert and they haven't tried the food say no until they try.
If there's dessert and they tried but haven't eaten anything else say no until they eat some dinner food.

That's about it. Those are the rules my niece follows, she's nearly 6 and beginning to like potatoes finally. She likes vegetables, and still occasionally throws fits but the important part is that the rules are fair and enforced consistently.

>> No.8076574

>>8076549
Forgot to mention, this is mostly preference, but my sister also enforced the rule that if you don't like dinner and want something else you have to make it yourself (including her and her husband).
So for my niece it started out as an apple, some carrots, etc then graduated to sandwiches and now I think she's at oatmeal and hardboiled eggs.

Makes your life easier, at least.

>> No.8076713

>>8075232
Take your kid to very ghetto and also very expensive places so he builds a strong inmunological system

>> No.8076816

>>8075419
true in a superstitious way for what the mother eats while in the womb. my mom ate alot of pasta and rice and i do like alot of rice/pasta dishes.

what a kid sees you eat and what you eat together is more important. cousins family dad hardily ate veggies and fish, and almost all of his kids were picky eaters for both.

>> No.8076828

Get him in a good school with healthy lunches, kid get bad food habits from their family or in school.

>> No.8076854
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>>8075241
Don't do this. My parents tried this shit with me, and it didn't work at all. They even tried feeding me my uneaten leftovers every meal until I ate them. Even when they put it in my school lunchbox, instead of just throwing it away at school to get rid of it, I brought it home in my lunchbox as a way of saying "FUCK YOU, NOT EATING IT". This went on for 3-4 days until the leftovers got too stale and rancid to be edible, and I won. They never tried that shit again, and the only thing I learned is that sometimes being a stubborn little shit pays off if you have the patients and willpower.

Don't try to make things they don't like a fight, because kids fight back. Try to figure out ways to make your kid want to eat it instead.

>> No.8076875

>>8076854
so you admit that you were just a shit person who punished your parents for no good reason?? spoiled ass brat

my parents sent me to bed hungry, i woke up, next day i ate my food bc being hungry fucking sucked. sometime in your life you have to learn that fighting the status quo sucks for every party involved and that it's much more pleasant to just go along with what's happening so you're not stuck at the table for hours, with cold peas, waiting to go play

>> No.8076877

>>8075241
This is the most common parenting style in middle America which also happens to have the pickiest eaters as well.

Just make things tasty. For yourself and your kids. Eating shitty dishes makes you hate the ingredients for life.

>> No.8076890

>>8075232

real answer:
-make sure the wife eats healthy when breast feeding. Baby develops a taste for food from breastmilk. Avoid formula milk as it turns babies into picky eaters.
-get children involved with cooking. People are more willing to eat something they have made (people will want to know if they did a good job at making food).
-avoid junk food and fast food at an early age. these foods are made to be addicting. Kids can't be disgusted by seafood, vegetables, or fruit if they are exposed to it at an early age.

>> No.8076897

>>8076875
oh, I was absolutely a little shit. I'm still pretty much a shit today. Don't let OP's kid turn out like me.

>> No.8076902

>>8076897
sounds like your parents didn't really get to the moment where they 'broke you'. i had multiple times where i threw up at the table trying to get out of eating the food. until my sis was like 'is this really better than just eating a few bites of food?"

being a stubborn shit only pays off if you're the biggest dick in the room. parents today are too afraid to abuse their parents, which means their kids learn that they'll basically always be the biggest dick in the room very early on, which is why muh generation is entitled, bossy, and self important

>> No.8077164

>>8075232
My mom never cooked special meals for me to accomodate me being picky about something. Her rule was that I didn't have to finish anything I didn't like, but I had to try at least one bite of everything she served. I had a childish palate for a while, but by the time I was a teenager I was not picky in the slightest.

>> No.8077182

>>8076875
>Punished your parents
>For them trying to punish him but it didn't work out
>YOU MONSTER!!!!!!!!
What the fuck is this even supposed to be. The entire point of his post was how it didn't work on him, not that he's a bad person and needs to repent for his sins from not eating his fucking vegetables. You make it sound as if he absolutely tormented him by not eating his greens.
>>8076902
>He doesn't care about you trying to talk down to him
>You're still trying to shit on him for no reason
You've got some serious ego problems. I' bet you're the same kind of person who thinks you should be crucified for disrespecting your parents no matter what situation.

>> No.8077224

>>8076890
>these foods are made to be addicting.

this is your cue that he doesn't know what he's talking about

>> No.8077259

>>8077224
Not him, but
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/magazine/the-extraordinary-science-of-junk-food.html

>> No.8077273

>>8077259
sugar does not create a chemical dependence and never will

>> No.8077290

>>8075232
cook good food

and slap the shit out that lil nigga if he don't like it

>> No.8077297

>>8075232
raise two children.
have one of them be an obnoxious loser, and care for the other one. they'll see their failure of a sibling and try not to be a cunt like them.

>> No.8077309

>>8077273
Have you noticed that most people with addictive personalities (unless they are /fit/) are overweight?

Psychological addiction is real to some people. And those kinds should avoid junk food.

Also, your adipose cells give off hormones where the more you eat, the less of leptin they produce (which inhibits appetite and also deals with blood glucose levels).
http://www.news-medical.net/news/20101014/Research-finds-fat-cells-can-secrete-hormones.aspx
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18601708

Back in ag school I shadowed a professor studying this in pigs, who have a very similar endocrine and insulin "system" to humans. It was interesting.
http://ocm.auburn.edu/featured_story/wooly_pigs.html

>> No.8077350

>>8077273
I'm friends with a fat girl. I go shopping with her and the stuff she eats is just amazing...the amount of sugary foods she eats I would never even think of eating. And when she comes across some nice cake...she's almost uncontrollable the amount she eats. It's really obvious that she can't control herself.

Same with me when I go through a sugary food phase. I keep wanting more sugar but I'm sure it's much worse for her because she's been downing sugar her entire life.

Not that it matters whether it's a chemical addiction or not. Addiction to sugar is very real.

>> No.8077369

>>8077309
>>8077350
reminder that anecdotal evidence doesn't count for shit. actual addictive substances are way different from sugar, regardless of what some internet know-it-all told you.

>> No.8077387

>>8075566
King Jack???

>> No.8077402

>>8077369
I guess NCBI is considered invalid and anecdotal?

Kek.

>> No.8077410

>>8077369
Yeah well by the time we wait for science and data to catch up with anecdotal, my kids will both have lost their feet from diabetes.

Reminder that there are truths in the world and science is just a way to confirm the truths or falsify false claims. It doesn't matter if there is no science behind a truth; it'll be true all the same.

>> No.8077411

Just make some shit that doesn't include the vegetables on the side. Make a stew, or lasagna, stir fry, whatever the fuck you can stick a vegetable in just make it.

It makes no sense to just serve them straight vegetables and expect them to eat that shit.

Maybe ask them why they don't like the vegetables... if they say they taste like shit, it's up to you to make them taste less bad. You don't eat things you think legitimately taste bad, why the fuck would you expect your kid to.

>> No.8077414

>>8077410
Facebook called, they are missing an anti-vaxer.

>> No.8077428

>>8077402
the article you are referring to, despite the eye-catching title, does not draw the conclusion that sugar is addictive. Food in general can be addictive to a small number of people, but sugar has never been shown to create a legit neurochemical addiction.

>> No.8077432

>>8077414
I'm sure you're following the facebook "science fan" groups.

>> No.8077433

>>8075419
Came here to post this. My son has loved the shit out of onion (mostly raw) all chiles, and has no problem with veggies or "grown up" food. I'm guessing it was based off my diet while pregnant, not dumbing down his palate (or vocabulary) and cooking regularly.

He's an all around great little shithead too, so he doesn't make a stink about trying new things.

I honestly don't know how I lucked out so hard with him.

>> No.8077440

>>8077428
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2235907/

Another article from the same period showing neurochemical dependency to sugar in rats. Not much more to say really.

>> No.8077456

>>8076452
>Train dumb like dumb.
What does this even mean? That your kid is dumb? Do you understand that you've raised him to be that way?

>> No.8077466

>>8076549
>explain it's okay to not like some food but they still have to try it (if there are foods you don't like, make a point to try them too).
>have them try it every once in a while
Goodness, this and this. Theis tastes are fluid, but it's good to have them still try almost everything.

>> No.8077475

>>8076854
>because kids fight back
Not to make this abut race, and I love White people, but I'm guessing you're White? Your parents never laid a finger on you? My kid doesn't fight back, hardly do I 'fight' with him (more like a level headed stern discussion, sometimes raised voice and curse words). I did used to lay the smack down on him, have't for years now, though it's clear your parents tried the 'loving' approach, gave into you and turned you into a piece of shit.

>> No.8077477
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8077477

PLEASE don't get violent.
My dad used to beat me if I didn't eat the food he prepared. He fancied himself a great cook of Vietnamese food but couldn't access any ingredients so it was stuff like Spam and Dried Leaves Banh Mi in white bread, and Pho where he used water as a base, usually water that had been sitting on the windowsill for at least 25 hours with a slug in the bowl 'to soak up all the waters dirt'. I can't eat Vietnamese food now because of the fucking punches and kickings he gave. I struggle with any noodle based dish, or any rice. It makes it worse not better.

>> No.8077478

>>8076890
>formula turns kids into picky eaters
Confirmed for literally being 12. That's so wrong.

>> No.8077479

>>8077440
Why do you think I specified swine? Because their insulin production and sugar and adipose processing is very close if not identical to humans.

That's like how it is useless to study alcohol effect on rats when relating them to people because of the way their living functions.

Also, with psychological addiction to a particular taste, examination needs to be done on animals with a brain activity closer to human.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4303703/

>> No.8077483

>>8075419
>mom was a vegetarian
>started getting cravings for meat when she got pregnant with me
>would eat steaks, ribs, fast food burgers, tacos, anything with lots of meat
>I eat McDonald's every day now
Whoa.... Really makes you think.....

>> No.8077489

>>8076890
>-avoid junk food and fast food at an early age. these foods are made to be addicting. Kids can't be disgusted by seafood, vegetables, or fruit if they are exposed to it at an early age.

Every part of what you said was wrong but this one I can personally attest to being bullshit, I grew up exposed to all sorts of "gross" food growing up and it didn't stop me from being picky

You know what eventually did stop me from being picky? My tastebuds changing as I got older. Sometimes kids can't handle certain foods until they reach adulthood.

>> No.8077501

Medfag here
Have your pregnant partner expose the fetus to as many foods as possible. The kid will enjoy the foods it was raised on, this doesn't mean neglect her cravings though that's just asking for shit. Try to get her to eat as many healthy things as possible and a low fat diet. Don't let her take the seven tubs of ice cream to bed, broccoli too but be careful of celery and EXTREMELY high doses of vitamin C that's how you cause miscarriages.

>> No.8077572

>>8077477
>slug
>soak up dirt

Please be making this up anon.

>> No.8077586

>>8077440
>alternate between starving rats and feeding them high-calorie food

that's a food addiction, not a sugar addiction

>> No.8077609

>>8077477
I don't want to believe someone could be this retarded.

>> No.8077621

>>8077479
>the way their liver functions*

I'll also add that we used pig insulin before we invented artificial insulin. Therefore swine studies about things like diabetes and sugar are more relevant.

>> No.8077638

>>8075232
congrats!! my parents taught me to always taste what i get in my plate and if i dont like it, i dont have to eat it. i love everything now :)

>> No.8077648

>>8075252
My dad made a point to never force me or my siblings to eat anything we didn't want to, because HIS dad forced him and sent him to bed hungry and he hated it.

None of us turned out picky.

>> No.8077660

>>8075497
>I can't stand hot dogs and declined.

Where you anywhere near Chicago? 'cos that would be understandable.

>> No.8077728

>>8075252
Good point. I remember having a lot of stand-offs against my dad where I got told I couldn't leave the table before I finished eating my veggies and I'd just sit there like a miserable little shit because I didn't want to back down no matter what, even though eating the vegetables wouldn't have been that bad.

The feeling of autonomy is extremely important for humans, so while I don't know a lot about child raising, I think it sounds reasonable to focus on teaching impulse control, rather than constantly exercising authority until they learn that it doesn't matter what they think.

>> No.8077749

>>8077456
It means kids as a whole are dumb, fuckers gotta to be told the stove is hot, like nigga, do you have a working nervous system?

>> No.8077803

>>8077309
>Have you noticed that most people with addictive personalities (unless they are /fit/) are overweight?

No, I can't say that I have.

Quite the opposite, druggies are often nothing but skin and bones.

>> No.8077825

Congrats.
Showing care by offering a wide variety of healthy food as early as possible.

>> No.8077828

>>8075989
This, unless he meant that >>8075241 was right and >>8075245 was wrong

t. professional 4chan memer

>> No.8077836
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You know how cartoons and movies make certain foods look really delicious and cool? You just have to go that route.

I remember trying sushi when I was young because Mojo Jojo made it during an episode of Powerpuff Girls. Nevermind stuff like Howl's Moving Castle.

>> No.8077842

leave

>> No.8077843

>>8077836
Good point. If The Land Before Time can make kids want to eat grass, convincing them to eat stuff that actually tastes good when you've tried it shouldn't be too hard.

>> No.8077849

>>8075252
>Kids often need to be exposed to a food several times before they will eat it.
yep, taste and smell aren fully developed from birth, Sweet and Salty are the first tastes children can work with, rest is undefined behaviour - might taste terribly offputting or like nothing at all. Thats why some children can bite into a lemon as if its an apple.

Plus its a whole new experience to them, therefore its recommended to start with bland foods, like raw fruit and veggies. An MSG laden spicy chinese takeout will feel like orgasming with the mouth while licking a taser

>> No.8077882

>>8077803
Being addicted to an addictive substance that creates a chemical dependence is different from having an addictive personality (i.e., becoming easily addicted to regular things that aren't necessarily addictive naturally, like video games or a particular food or masturbating)

>> No.8077892

>>8077586
http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/65/7/1797.full

And this review article clearly shows that fat people have reactions to sugar that are very different from thinner people. Namely their pleasure centers become more active and their prefrontal cortex become less active, leading to out of control behaviours we see with fat people in real life. It also shows that sugar hits the opioid centers of the brain for binge eaters and not for non binge eaters. So yeah this is pretty good evidence that sugar is chemically addictive, science fan.

>> No.8077900

>>8077475
Pretty sure most people here would have been belted.
My dad used to hang a piece of conduit above me and my brothers room as a reminder. Turned into a joke as we got older and stopped being little shits.

>> No.8077935

>put food on table
>eat it or don't
>but you're not getting anything else

How is this so hard? Just never let your kid eat junk food to begin with, and it won't whine for pizza and french fries every fucking meal.

>>8076890

This.

>> No.8078067

>>8077660
No, Colorado. It was your typical Oscar Meyer hotdog.

>> No.8079389

ealthy diet during pregnancy
>breastfeed to 2yo at least
>only fresh healthy foods until 3yo (no meat or sugar)
>lots of variety before pickiness sets in (usually around 3 or so)
>don't force the kid to eat: he can survive a long time on bread and butter, and diet should be gauged by the week, not the day.
>Mealtime is a relaxed social affair, not a power struggle
>cook with the little guy

t. parent of 13yo who loves salad, sushi, sauerkraut, olives, kombucha, pate, & etc

>> No.8079441

>>8075232
Kids like sweet, salty, and savoury. They don't develop a complex palate until they grow up. So give lots of variety, and lead by example. Sit with the child and eat what the child is eating, and visibly enjoy it. And offer a bribe of a tiny dessert for finishing everything.

But if you turn it into a contest of wills, you'll lose. Kids can be incredibly stubborn. Just control the incentive.

Remember that some kids are programmed to hate "bitter" foods like broccoli or lima beans, or mixed together foods, or certain textures. Recognize those early and avoid them because you won't win that fight.

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>>8079389
I bet he likes it up the bum too.

>> No.8079451

>>8075232
My dad will never eat onions and actively runs of someone is cutting them all because his black nanny tried to force feed them to him.

Just introduce them to them. If they don't like it serve 2 nights in a row and they will change their mind.. Also try to serve these foods first.

>> No.8079454

>>8079441
I don't reccomend dessert as a bribe.
Dessert should be either a once a week affair or an everyday thing that is served regardless of main meal consumption.
If it is an everyday thing, then ideally something like yogurt or fruit would be served.
We were lucky enough to have neighbors who serve salad after every meal, so my kid got the idea early on that salad was a special after dinner treat, for which you need room on your plate. Wonderful misunderstanding!

>> No.8079489

>>8075232
Studies have shown that young children often need to try new foods several times (up to 9 or 10 times if memory serves) before they'll "like" them. A lot of parents give up on making their kids try new things after a couple attempts, thus picky eaters are raised. So basically don't give them a choice, they are going to eat what you serve or nothing. They'll learn to try new things after a while. Also, don't be one of those parents who insists that your kid has to eat whatever portions you decide they should. If the kid says they're not hungry anymore don't make them continue eating. That's how fatasses happen.

>> No.8079501

>>8079454
"Dessert" is a bribe, but it doesn't need to be candy. Fruity yoghurt, grapes, a cracker with peanut butter, whatever the child really likes will do.

I agree that cake / ice cream / candy for dessert should be very rare.

>> No.8080082

>>8079454
My great-grandmother serves salad after meals, and I really loved it when I was young. It made the salad feel special and refined. Worked well enough for me, I guess.
My great-grandmother doesn't serve a hell of a lot of meals at the moment on account of being real fucken old.

>> No.8080109

>>8075241
this, that's how my lil brother was cured.

>> No.8080791

Cook and serve them good food. Let them eat whaevert and how much they would like. That's it.

>> No.8080800

>>8075419
First point is bullshit. My mom ate all sorts of shit while pregnant and I was the pickiest eater even from like 2-7

>> No.8080802

>>8075241
This created the pickiest eater I know. She stops eating food that she used to enjoy. If it wasn't for candy, cola, chips, and other snacks, she would starve to death.

>> No.8080814

Just show that you love all sorts of food and they will love it as well

>> No.8080836

>>8075241
you see, it doesn't work when YOU're forcing this to happen. It needs to be done by someone else. My grandma survived Leningrad's blockade when she was a kid, she can at ANYTHING and always scolded us for throwing away food. That's because she went to bed hungry because of the situation, not because she thought her dad was oppressing her or smth.

>> No.8080840

>>8080836
>smth
stop this

>> No.8080849

>>8080800
Pickiness at that age is a natural part of child development. They grow out of it if:

Everyone around them eats varied, interesting foods

No one fucks with them psychologically

If all the kid wants to eat is bread and butter and applesauce, make sure it's the best damn bread and butter and applesauce you can buy.

Be aware of "kid foods" in other cultures. If the kid likes hummus and pita, or udon, or bean tacos, that's 3 more things he'll eat.

>> No.8080852

>>8080840
gee, sorry anon, not a native speaker. Being rased by the internet makes you pick up a lot of bad habits.

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If your kid has any kind of sensory issues, or autism, you'll be in for a rough time. I had pretty bad sensory issues when it came to texture, so food with "bad" textures pretty much meant I would spit it out and, sometimes, break down and cry. Especially young kids, they'll overreact because it'll be the contextual equivalent of unbearable nails on a chalkboard hooked up to the microphone against their ear.

The sensory issues will likely get better with age, but there will still be things that have a texture that they will absolutely not touch. Nothing you can do about that.

>> No.8080869

>>8080852
*raised

>> No.8080881

>>8075419
>First and foremost... your child's diet will be a reflection of how the mother eats during her pregnancy.

First and foremost, this is complete bullshit. That so many people agree with you reflects the number of retarded foreigners and new-age Californians on this board.

>> No.8080891

A lot of problems stem in society from a population who has never experienced hardship and thinks it is their right to be kept alive. Kids are freeloaders. If they don't eat the healthy meals you provide at the table with utensils and lighting, put it back in the fridge. They can eat the leftovers when they get hungry with bare hands on the floor in the dark, or earn their own money to buy the food they want.

>> No.8080906

>>8080891
You act like you have some kind of evolutionary view but the fact is that your viewpoint is already socialized.

Kids didn't ask to be brought into this world, you are obliged to make them happy. Acknowledge this or admit that you are no better than a torturer.

You had better believe that your kids are gonna lash the fuck out the moment they grow old enough to leave the house.

>> No.8080911

>>8080906
Their behaviour while in my custody will determine the support they receive as soon as they become legal. I can pay for their postsecondary education and living expenses, or call the police to evict them as soon as the clock strikes midnight.

>> No.8080914

>>8080881
Why do you think very young Mexicans like spicy foods? Or very young Slavs like garlic and onions?
Sorry dude, but it's true.
Also different kids produce different cravings in pregnancy, and continue those preferences into childhood.

t. Lifebearer

>> No.8080915

>>8080911
I sincerely hope you never have kids you heartless fucking slavedriver. I'm not a liberal or anything like that, actually as conservative as they come, but people like you make me sick.

Your children will at best be maladjusted. Enjoy your strained relationship with your druggie whore kids.

>> No.8080916

>>8080911
CPS will be on your ass with that attitude.
Children are not property.

>> No.8080920

>>8075232

Cook nice food? All the food i was picky over was because i didnt like the taste. Thinking back over it as adult made me realise i had only ever tasted shitty versions of it. Like, i always hated cheese, never ate it when i was young, whenever i tried it, it was either really stinky bitter stuff like stilton, or just bland bleh generic cheap shit. I had never tasted buffallo mozerella, gorgonzola, local cheddar etc etc. Cheese is one of my fave foods now. Hell, even that shitty american cheese can be made to taste nice, like melted on a good burger.
Or fish, i always hated fish, fucking gross stuff, but that was because i only ever given fish that was past its best, or way overcooked so it was dry as hell. Of course i love fish now, but thats because i buy fresh fish and cook it properly.
Thinking back on it, most people were/are awful cooks, and restraunts were much shittier in the 90s then modern times.

>> No.8080921

>>8080920
best post itt

>> No.8080925

>>8080920
I agree: it is important when training young tastebuds to make sure that all that is available is healthy, wholesome food.
They will not develop a taste for junk food if it is not available.

>> No.8080950

>>8075232
kids are shits. you're rolling the dice, OP.

>> No.8081307

>>8075419
But my favorite foods are things my mother doesn't like much

>> No.8081658

>>8075232
You gotta be patient with new foods, if you're going to have them try something new, include a small amount of it along with known favorites. They'll likely investigate it, throw it, poke it, taste a finger, or sometimes eat some followed by cringing, but it'll take about 10-15 attempts before they warm up to something.

When our baby was small, she ate whatever was put in front of her as long as it wasn't overly salty, but then turned into a picky toddler, and is now starting to try new things again.

>> No.8081786

>>8075946
My family did this as well and I turned out fat because I always finished my plate even though I was full. Took me years to break the habit and lose the weight.

>> No.8081826

- Give the illusion of choice because of what >>8075252 said. "Do you want broccoli or carrots tonight?" Don't give free rein with "What do you want for dinner tonight?"
- When they start eating solid food, start off by introducing veggies and other "not-so-yummy" things. If you start off with sweet stuff like fruit, it'll be harder to get them to eat veggies.
- For the love of God, limit salt and sugar-laden junk food. They should be treats only, not an everyday thing.
- Don't completely avoid those though, because they'll just binge when they do get a chance to eat/drink them. Buy them infrequently, not never.

>> No.8081856

>>8075232
teach your kids that eating is first and foremost about putting nutrients and fuel in your body. whether or not you like the way the food taste isn't important. It's like Weird Al said, you don't have to like it, just eat it.

As long as you emphasize that the taste of the food is secondary, or even tertiary to eating it, you shouldn't have any problems.

Source: I'm a child psychiatrist.

>> No.8083435

>>8075241
Stop serving shit flyover food and maybe the kid would eat it

>> No.8083440

>>8075252
I was picky and still am to a much lesser extent and this was never the case.

Being a not retarded child I knew fruits/veggies/fish are good for me and wanted to but wouldn't eat just because of the horrid taste. Not one memory of this defiance shit. Just get the kid to have a little at a time and they will eat it in no time, that's how I learned.

>> No.8083444

>>8075419
I guess that explains my taste for curry

Mother lived in Britain for a bit

>> No.8083478

>>8075245
>baby
5 year olds are not babies.

>> No.8083520

>>8075245
This.
Saw it with my nephews.

Oldest eats everything, because his mom fed him everything.
Once his little sister came out, her mom had started getting really fat and eating burgers n shit. So she's a picky eater.
They still eat quality foods from time to time, so my nephew will eat sushi and those weird green things that are supposed to be healthy for you, but his sister will only eat chips and other junk.

Same shit with my brother's kids, except in reverse. My brother eventually became a healthy eater, but not before his first daughter became a tub of lard. Second child came out, got fed the healthy foods, so she eats fine and the oldest mopes when they tell her to finish eating even simple stuff like plain oatmeal.

In short, eat by example. If you yourself aren't eating a lot of junk and feed the same stuff to your kids, they'll grow up eating everything.

>> No.8084005

Abort it