/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.8014582]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzwQskfRQsU

What's the deal with these as seen on TV pans? I needed a non-stick pan so I picked one of these up at rite-aid for $20, took it home, followed the directions to season it in the oven with oil for 20 minutes, and it's fucking wonderful. Perfect for eggs. They don't slide around the pan like in the commercial, but they don't stick. So what's the gimmick?

[Anonymous No.8014588]

>>8014582
>So what's the gimmick?
It's the pan you need, but not the one you deserve.

[Anonymous No.8014595]

>>8014582
That's a big pan.

[Anonymous No.8014607]

My grandma got one. it's already scratched to hell. It's shit.

[Anonymous No.8014610]

>>8014595
>For you

[Anonymous No.8014611]

>>8014607

That's not the pan's fault.

[Anonymous No.8014646]

>>8014582
The gimmick is that it might work for you, but if you read reviews about 90 percent of people say it's a shit pan that doesn't work

[Anonymous No.8014674]

>>8014646

(citation needed)

[Anonymous No.8014704]

Since when does wayne enterprise manufacture pans?

[Anonymous No.8014720]

>>8014674
Look it up on Amazon. Nearly every person rates it one star, and any review that doesn't reads like a paid shill, much like yourself.

[Anonymous No.8014744]

>>8014582
https://www.amazon.com/GreenLife-Everyday-Healthy-Non-Stick-Cookware/dp/B01GG2975Y
these are like the ones i got for xmas 2 years ago and they hold up well even with roommates for the price i would get them again

[Anonymous No.8014758]

>>8014611
>scratch resistant

[Anonymous No.8014843]

>>8014720

https://www.amazon.com/GOTHAM-STEEL-inches-Non-stick-Titanium/dp/B018T909XG

What is your end game here? What do you have to gain from lying? Most people (53%) give it 5 stars.

Who hurt you, anon?

[Anonymous No.8014903]

>>8014607
>scratched to hell

Stop being retarded and don't use metal on treated surfaces.

It is entirely the fault of the cook if a pan becomes scratched.

>>8014582
>scratch resistant
And I'm Bernie Madoff

[Anonymous No.8014907]

>>8014582
>What's the deal with these as seen on TV pans?

They suck, plain and simple. Which is why you'll never see one in a restaurant kitchen.

[Anonymous No.8014912]

>>8014843
Nobody hurt me. Why are you getting so defensive about a pan?

When the reviews are mainly either 5 stars or 1 star with not much between, there's a very good reason to be skeptical. Especially when it's a cheap one that makes up the majority of its sales during 3 in the morning infomercials.

[Anonymous No.8014915]

>>8014582

the gimmick is that the atoms in ceramic group more tightly and are less porous than the atoms in steel or whatever other material you might be thinking of

[Anonymous No.8014957]

>>8014843
>Most people (53%) give it 5 stars.
53% isnt most, its half....and the other half of people reviewing it register complaints

23%giving it one star and 14% giving it 2 and 3 stars colectivley

also reviews are only as valuable as the reviewer

[Anonymous No.8014971]

What is the non stick coating made from? I just assumed it was more lethal than regular non stick.

[Anonymous No.8014973]

>>8014582
>those unripe white tomato slices
disgusting

[Anonymous No.8014977]

>>8014903
>advertise a product feature
>it fails
>WOW YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT
that's stupid. you are stupid.

[Anonymous No.8014986]

>>8014977
>>WOW YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT

Exactly. You don't drive your car into a tree and then say:
>>but it has bumpers and air bags

The "product feature" is that the pan is more durable than PTFE-coated nonstick. That's true. But it doesn't excuse the cook from treating his tools properly.

[Anonymous No.8015030]

>>8014957
>reviews are only as valuable as the reviewer
which reminds me of my favorite yelp review of a restaurant around here
>when we arrived we asked if we could be seated on the patio, the hostess told us since it was after 11pm the patio was closed for service. Since it was a nice night we decided to seat ourselves out there anyway. We waited for 40 minutes and nobody even came over to take a drink order. TERRIBLE SERVICE WILL NOT GO BACK.

[Anonymous No.8015187]

>>8014971
ceramic

[Anonymous No.8015203]

>>8014957
Actually, 53% is more than half. Half is 50%. Therefore, most do give it 5 star reviews.

[Anonymous No.8016298]

>>8014986
Except that they are literally showing someone using a metal egg beater in a product demo as an example of usage

You don't see car manufacturers driving their cars into trees. You see violent crash tests as an example of how the car handles an end-of-life event, but it's presented in a way that makes it clear it's a destructive test

[Anonymous No.8016336]

>>8016298
This. They show the dude cooking melted plastic, filling the thing with nails and shaking it up, hitting it with a hammer, using a blowtorch on it, etc. The claim is after all of that, the pan still isn't scratched.

That's pretty flagrant false advertising if the thing gets scratched from normal usage.

[Anonymous No.8016355]

>>8016298
>You don't see car manufacturers driving their cars into trees.

But you do see them doing all sorts of insane driving tricks with the text "Professional driver - closed course- do not imitate" at the bottom.

Let's go about this a different way. Have you ever heard the expression "if it's too good to be true, it probably is"?

Or yet another one: Don't you find it odd that whenever you see video of a professional restaurant kitchen on TV you will never see various kinds of cookware but never a ceramic pan? You don't stop and think: hey--if they're so cheap, and they work so well, then why don't pro cooks use them?

[Anonymous No.8016375]

>>8016355
>But you do see them doing all sorts of insane driving tricks with the text "Professional driver - closed course- do not imitate" at the bottom.
Which is all possible to do with the advertised car. The limiting factor is the driver's skill. There's no parallel between these two things.

[Anonymous No.8016383]

>>8016336
Unless only an idiot would actually believe all the shit, in which case it is mere puffery.

[Anonymous No.8016396]

>>8016355
That's not even remotely similar

You are actually shilling for a shitty made for TV pan on a sundanese rice farming forum

Reconsider your life, senpai

[Anonymous No.8016403]

>>8016375
>Which is all possible to do with the advertised car.

Maybe, maybe not. Often times the cars in those commercials are modified or the course is prepped in a special way. And sometimes it's 100% CG miracles that aren't possible in real life.

>>There's no parallel between these two things.
The parallel is that you shouldn't take what you see on TV to be the gospel truth, especially not when someone wants to sell you something.

By the way, I noticed you only replied to two of the three points I just made.
>>have you heard the expression or not
and
>>don't you find it puzzling that these pans are supposedly blessed by Jesus himself, yet no professional seems to use them?

...I mean, they're simple yes/no questions. It doesn't take much effort to answer.

[Anonymous No.8016414]

>>8016396
i have the pan, was a gift from my grandfather, and its ok so far, can make eggs without fat on the pan at least.

[Anonymous No.8016416]

>>8016403
I stopped reading your post by that point because you pretty much outed yourself as an idiot, so I didn't expect anything worth my time tbhwy.

[Anonymous No.8016436]

ITT: morons defending false advertising

Bet you buy iShit as well

[Anonymous No.8016463]

My mom has a couple of these copper chef pans for a few months and they are still solidly nonstick with no scratches

I want to know what the catch is. I'm waiting for something horrible to happen with them

What experiments should I try while I'm at her house dog sitting?

[Anonymous No.8016544]

Probably cancer

[Anonymous No.8017150]

I would pay money to see Jack Scalfani test out your shitty product, OP.

[Anonymous No.8017192]

>tfw dad keeps buying non stick pans
>he has like 10 frying pans that are just different sizes
>keep telling him that he just needs to buy a fucking cast iron skillet because we can't put any of these pans in the oven because the handles would melt (all have plastic handles)
>he keeps buying these frying pans
Ffs dad

[Anonymous No.8017228]

>>8014758
>Doesn't know the difference between resistant and proof

Mc fucking kill yourself with one of these shitty pans you meganigger

[Anonymous No.8017241]

>>8014977
anon did you know if you're travelling faster than 100mph in your car and you collide head on with another car travelling equally fast or faster, your airbag probably won't deploy?

not that it's going to make a huge difference because you'll be dead - no roll cages or crumple zones in the world could possibly make the difference there, the engine block of your own vehicle will slam into you about 200mph and basically pop you before the destroyed metal and glass dismembers what's left, but no, at those speeds your airbags won't deploy, and your family won't be able to sue even if the collision report finds that your airbag was not deployed

because that's not how airbags work

even though you paid for them to be on your car

>>8016298
>You don't see car manufacturers driving their cars into trees

no you literally see destruction and collision tests all the time, to prove that they can meet safety standards and give the manufacturer an idea of what kind of mess they'll make in a collision even with those standards

you also frequently see cars that fly, talk, jump, drive around beautiful cities and are filled with photogenic people, but the one you buy just carts a moaning swamp donkey around a shithole sputtering and whirring and making that weird noise you can't track down, and nobody ever sues over that either because car ads are make believe even when they're telling you this car is great

they just read the manual and try not to drive into things

[Anonymous No.8017275]

>>8017192
>keep telling him that he just needs to buy a fucking cast iron skillet because we can't put any of these pans in the oven because the handles would melt

you are an absolute fucking idiot. cast iron pans are not meant to replace standard cooking pans. cast iron pans are only really useful for a handful of specific tasks; anybody cooking everything out of cast iron pans is a complete moron

[Anonymous No.8017300]

>>8014582
If you ever put it in the dishwasher or use any chemical cleaner on it it's fucked.

[Anonymous No.8017309]

Just get one of these things. I can clean scrambled eggs and melted cheese off with a paper towel.

[Anonymous No.8017317]

>>8017241
I think your brain is defective or something.

[Anonymous No.8017328]

>>8014912
>Why are you getting so defensive about a pan?

Jesus Christ it's this faggot.

[Anonymous No.8017335]

>>8014957
>53% isnt most

Is this American math?

[Anonymous No.8017466]

>>8017335
Yes, common core is wonderful since it will destroy white privilege.

[Anonymous No.8017471]

>>8014957
>53% isn't most
Holy fuck

[Anonymous No.8017705]

>>8017335
>>8017471
Saying "most" when the actual percentage is this close to 50% is very misleading. You wouldn't call a crowd consisting of 55% English speakers "mostly English speakers". Unless it's nearly all of the group you're referring to, it's moronic to use "most" when it's barely over half. Use some common fucking sense.

[Anonymous No.8017708]

>>8017705
>You wouldn't call a crowd consisting of 55% English speakers "mostly English speakers".
Yes you would.
Weebs really are this fucking stupid.

[Anonymous No.8017713]

>>8017705
most=majority.
53% is a majority.
If this concept is too difficult for you to grasp then I sincerely doubt your ready to be expressing opinions on the internet.

[Anonymous No.8017721]

>>8017708
Learn connotation vs denotation. Most is generally used when there's a significant margin for one option. Generally "more than half" is used when it's between 51% and 55%. This is like 5th grade English. 53% is not significant enough to warrant "most" unless you're being pedantic as fuck and going based on the denotation and completely ignoring connotation.

[Anonymous No.8017724]

>>8017708
>>8017713

>I got most of the questions on the test right, where is my A+++++++?

LMAO idiot "logic".

[Anonymous No.8017726]

>>8017721
most=majority.
53% is a majority.
Go back to /a/, you lack the intelligence to post anywhere else.

[Anonymous No.8017742]

>>8017726
>being this divorced from reality

You should sell Apple, or go into politics.

[Anonymous No.8017745]

>>8017726
Nice job ignoring my whole post. If you actually had any knowledge of linguistics you'd realize dictionary definitions are incomplete without the broader context for each word.

[Anonymous No.8017751]

>>8017726
Just jumping into this autistic, non-thread-related foray into statistics, but 53% is well within the margin of error of the vast majority of studies to safely qualify the figure as a 1 to 1 ratio.

[Anonymous No.8017774]

>>8017745
>dictionary definitions are incomplete
Retard.

[Anonymous No.8017780]

>>8017751
>England voted strongly for Brexit, by 53.4% to 46.6%.
So this is a 1 to 1 ratio then?

[Anonymous No.8017793]

>>8017780
>>England voted strongly for Brexit, by 53.4% to 46.6%.
said no one ever

[Anonymous No.8017795]

>>8017793
I suggest you read the ofiicial Government report.
Weebs really are this fucking dumb.

[Anonymous No.8017798]

>>8017795
You're wrong. Most does not refer to 53%. It's been explained several times.

[Anonymous No.8017799]

>ITT: 53% is not greater than 47%.
This is why the rest of 4Chinks hates you /ck/.
You're fucking idiots.

[Anonymous No.8017801]

>>8017780
>context means nothing
>a sovreighn nation's official referendum having a 6 point spread is the same as amazon star product reviews

Not to mention the obviousness of other points that could be brought up if you took even an introductory course to high school statistics...

[Anonymous No.8017803]

anything advertised on TV is generally optimized, jump cut and misdirection. The prototypes used for the television advertisement are higher quality product than the mass manufactured china garbage.
I think the airfryer commerical is the greatest. Literally puts soggy wet chicken pieces in it and it jump cuts to storebought fried chicken on the reveal. Fuckin hilarious.

[Anonymous No.8017814]

>>8017799
>365 weeks in a year

Fucking Americans, man.

[Anonymous No.8017827]

>>8017780
Most Britons voted for Brexit, why even pay attention to the few faggots who didn't? Why is the media all over them?

[Anonymous No.8017832]

>>8017827
ARTICLE 50 WHEN?

[Anonymous No.8017834]

>>8014744
This, I've done everything from Pittsburgh rare steaks with a small amount of brown sugar in the rub (just under the smoke point of refined sesame oil) to chorizo and red wine reductions in mine and they wipe clean with a piece of kitchen towel.

[Anonymous No.8017837]

>>8017814
SHART

[Anonymous No.8017839]

>>8017837
kek.
>Do the Wal-Mart Shart!

[Anonymous No.8017856]

>>8017839
>Wal-Shart

[Anonymous No.8017876]

>>8014582
>have to season it

Well that's a lot less impressive. Any oven safe pan is gonna be nonstick with a good seasoning.

[Anonymous No.8017896]

>>8014582
There was nonstick pans when your great great mother was a teen and thinking about Jamal's dick. It is called cast iron. My 60 year old 3 inch egg pan works like a charm. My well seasoned cheap hand hammered carbon steel woks are better than any non stick coated pan I have ever owned- and that is cooking at 185k btus.

[Anonymous No.8018062]

Whatever happened to good ol teflon that you fags cannot go a day without your cast iron memes? Do you put every single meal you make in the oven?

[Anonymous No.8018477]

>>8014582
These ceramic pans actually work. Nothing really sticks to them, but if you scratch the surface a little bit then shit goes south, they will stick more than any other pan.

You can basically only use plastic spatulas with soft tip. These pans get fucked up pretty easily, but as long as they are unscratched, they are pretty great.

I guess that's their strategy, sell pans that break every few years so they can sell you a new one.

[Anonymous No.8018608]

>>8018477
This. I have several ceramic pans (not the Gotham) and love them. They are no more, no less fragile than teflon pans that you can fuck up just as easily with metal utensils. Plus with the ceramic pans you can cook with high heat.

[Anonymous No.8018623]

>>8018062
>good ol teflon

Different tools for different jobs.

[Anonymous No.8018681]

>>8014582
Same with every teflon pan
After a year of use it wont be non stick anymore and you'll go out and buy another.

Just buy a cast iron and learn to season it and you're set for life

[Anonymous No.8018682]

>>8017799
There's a reason most millionaires:
Don't buy lottery tickets.
Don't buy brand new cars.
Don't use credit cards.

[Anonymous No.8018721]

>>8018682
>most millionaires:
>Don't buy brand new cars.
>Don't use credit cards.
have you ever met or seen a rich person?

[Anonymous No.8018750]

>>8018682
is this a meme thing? because its wrong...

every millionaire Ive met has
bought lottery tickets
bought numerous new cars
and all use credit cards.
which edition of star magazine did you get this shit from?

[Anonymous No.8018751]

>>8018721

I'm not the guy you're replying to, but I know several rich people. And they to tend towards the trends described above. As they say, "a fool and his money are soon parted".

Though that said, one of them I know made a staggering amount of money via credit cards a few years ago. He had perfect credit so he had no problem getting several cards with very high limits and 0% interest for a year. He maxed out the cards on cash advances, then invested the cash in 1-year CDs. Paid off the cards entirely at the 1-year mark and pocketed the interest. He was able to repeat this for a while until the banks started offering such low % on a CD that it wasn't worth the hassle.

[Anonymous No.8018756]

>>8016383
I hate that defense companies use - "only an idiot would actually believe our advertising". Don't fucking advertise it that way, then. They shouldn't be able to lie, believably or not. They know what they're doing, it's the kind of thing you consciously know is fake but it gets into your subconscious anyway so it still encourages you to buy it. If it didn't work they wouldn't do it so obviously they're bullshitting when they say "Only an idiot would believe it".

[Anonymous No.8018760]

>>8018682
I'm a millionaire and I do all three. The first is how I became a millionaire in the first place.

[Anonymous No.8018770]

>>8017192
>his dad won't buy him what he wants
>he won't become a man and get a fucking job
>it's his dad's fault
Actually it kind of is.

[Anonymous No.8018781]

>>8018756
>"only an idiot would actually believe our advertising"

But that actually works. People in marketing realize that many people are idiots and choose to market their products towards them. As PT Barnum said, there's a sucker born every minute.

>> it gets into your subconscious anyway

It doesn't get into my subconscious, anon. Perhaps you should ask yourself why it gets into yours?

[Anonymous No.8018783]

>>8018781
You haven't understood my post faggot.

[Anonymous No.8019402]

>>8016383
The carbolic smoke ball co lost, you fucking smart ass.

[Anonymous No.8019431]

>>8018783

I'm not surprised; it wasn't very clear to begin with.

[Anonymous No.8019626]

>>8016396
Do the Sudanese actually farm a lot of rice? It never struck me as a rice-friendly area.

[Anonymous No.8019655]

>>8019431
I had no problem comprehending his post. It was extremely straight forward.

[Anonymous No.8019682]

>>8014582
Like every other "as seen on TV" product, its shit.

Here is a video of some non stick pans if you are looking to buy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwJKDD6E7M0

[Anonymous No.8020149]

>>8018760
can i have $100

[Anonymous No.8020158]

Copper is reactive. So, being heat-conductive is cool for some foods but be careful.

[Anonymous No.8020190]

>>8020149
Yes