/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.7959312]

coffee thread

no coffee audiophile shit like $1000 grinders and $2000 espresso machines

[Anonymous No.7959319]

I use coffee as a drug not a food.

[Anonymous No.7959330]

>>7959319
Just buy caffeine pills then. It's cheaper.

[Anonymous No.7960437]

>>7959319
>eating coffee
Nigga, coffee is not a food.

[Anonymous No.7960486]

>tfw making single cups of coffee using a tea steeper

i feel like it's wrong in every way but it really doesn't make that bad a cup of coffee

i guess it basically is a very ghetto percolator in the end

[Anonymous No.7960495]

>>7959312
I don't really like coffee

[Anonymous No.7960502]

>>7960437
>you're

[Anonymous No.7960508]

>>7960486
Not really all that different from how Vietnam makes their coffee.

[Anonymous No.7960644]

>>7959319
But it can be used as both.

[Anonymous No.7961975]

>>7959312
What about a $3,000 grinder?

I'm looking at this one versus a $1,700 Mahlkonig Tanzania.

[Anonymous No.7961980]

>>7960486
More like a ghetto french press that's probably better than an actual French press. At least at filtering out the fines.

[Anonymous No.7961982]

>>7959312
How about those vending machine iced coffee? Whenever I'm super thirsty and see pic related at the station I pick one up. Tastes pretty ok but I always feel like I just chugged a lot of sugar afterwards. It's owned by Coca-Cola so it wouldn't be too surprising if it was.

[Anonymous No.7961984]

cowfee

[Anonymous No.7961990]

>>7960502

>2016
>Not sexually identifying yourself as a beverage

Get with the times grandpa

[Anonymous No.7962216]

Office has pic related and a deal with our manager to expense the beans.

TFW Everyone in the office is a self proclaimed barista/addict

[Anonymous No.7962223]

>>7962216
Doesn't it get busy around the machine? How many people use that on a daily basis?

I'd get much too lazy to grind and brew a shot every time. I drink too much coffee at work for that to be efficient, so luckily we just use nespresso capsules which are quite alright

I do have a pretty ok setup at home though, for afternoons and especially weekends when I don't mind taking the time to make myself a proper coffee

[Anonymous No.7962225]

>>7960437
I disagree

[Anonymous No.7962229]

>>7962223

Right after lunch, 6 of us guys will stand around for maybe 10-15 minutes, shooting the shit and making espresso. Most of them will split a double so it goes fairly fast. I think i've gotten it down to 2 minutes, just stretch a bit while it's brewing.

People will come from different floors to use it at random times

> and then not refill the water.

[Anonymous No.7962258]

I use a moka pot and a 20$ hand grinder.

[Anonymous No.7962266]

>>7962225
Man I haven't had those in forever. I hated them when I was a kid because I didn't like the taste of coffee then, I wonder if I would like them now.

[Anonymous No.7962270]

>get sick of regular coffee so decide to try a nespresso
>after a few months it tastes kinda shitty so decide to try the mokka pot
>get sick of all the fucking coffee grounds in my coffee so try a french press
>get sick of getting coffee grounds in my coffee, finally go back to a regular coffee maker again with filter

I expected so much but mokka and french press are bs, regular coffee is so much better.

[Anonymous No.7962272]

>>7962270
French press and moka pot are both regular coffee, though?
I'm not sure what you're getting at here.

[Anonymous No.7962277]

>>7962270
Couldn't you just use have your coffee more coarsely ground? Or am I an idiot?

[Anonymous No.7962280]

>>7962272
Pretty sure he means coffee made in a common coffee maker with the filters and all that v.s. coffee made in a french press or whatever.

[Anonymous No.7962288]

>>7962280
Plunger makers and moka pots are common as dirt.

[Anonymous No.7962295]

>>7962288
god damn it you know he means a fucking drip coffeemaker you fucking mongoloid faggot fuck

[Anonymous No.7962297]

>>7962270
>I expected so much but mokka and french press are bs, regular coffee is so much better.

[Anonymous No.7962319]

>>7959312
Do you guys use a espresso machine? What brand? Are you guys happy with it? using pic related but I prefer normal coffee

[Anonymous No.7962350]

>>7961982
I don't like 'em, too sweet, too much milk.

What's the best way to make iced coffee at home?
Leave a french press with cold water in the fridge overnight?

[Anonymous No.7962478]

>>7962319
Nespresso makes some damn fine coffee, but the wastefulness of the pods is matched only by Keurig.

> also general Nestle corporate hate that's not worth going in to on /ck/

[Anonymous No.7962503]

>>7962270
This is top tier bait

[Anonymous No.7962513]

>>7962258
reminds me of my first year or so of being into coffee. enjoy this time.

[Anonymous No.7962724]

There is literally nothing wrong with owning a $2000 espresso machine

[Anonymous No.7962731]

>>7962216
Pretty cool manager (assuming he isn't buying crap beans).

[Anonymous No.7962986]

>>7962319
Strietman CT1. Grinding with Bunnzilla. Really got my routine mastered and every shot the past two weeks has been a god shot. Freezing the beans has been a great step for shot to shot consistency without wasting beans to dial in each day.

Looking to upgrade my grinder soon and finish my seutup (I'm >>7961975 )

[Anonymous No.7963108]

>>7959312
>coffee audiophile

What the fuck? Why is no one commenting on this?

[Anonymous No.7963118]

>>7959312
cold-bewers ww@

[Anonymous No.7963122]

cold brewers ww@

[Anonymous No.7963125]

I wouldn't think this would qualify as "coffee audiophile" but here it goes:
Is it bad that I measure out my beans by measuring spoon and not by weight?
I measure out two table spoons of beans for a cup of coffee.

>>7963108
I assume everyone (myself included) that has posted so far knew what OP was describing, that being people who get real snooty about coffee and top-notch coffee equipment.

[Anonymous No.7963146]

I use coffee grounds in one of those reusable k-cup inserts for Keurig machines

[Anonymous No.7963165]

>>7963108
there was a thread a week ago or so that compared espresso snobs to audiophile placebos like $10,000 headphones that aren't any better than 500 dollar ones

[Anonymous No.7963186]

>>7962350
That's what I do. French presses are best for cold-brew

[Anonymous No.7963187]

>>7963125
You're suggesting that "audiophile" is a byword for connoisseur, or enthusiast, or something, because audiophiles spend money on their hobby the same as other people with hobbies?

[Anonymous No.7963190]

>>7963165
Ah-- thank you. I missed that thread. That lends context.

[Anonymous No.7963199]

>>7963122
mason-jar cold brew master race, lightly crush up some blueberries and let them join the overnight party, brother.

[Anonymous No.7963200]

>>7963125
It's a problem if you ever change coffees. Some can have more than a 50% weight difference for the same volume.

[Anonymous No.7963204]

>>7963187
Audiophiles have a stereotype on 4chan for being super snobs.
Go ask about it in a /g/ Headphone thread.

[Anonymous No.7963213]

>>7963122
Cold brew is the only way to drink coffee in Arizona during the summer
>>7963199
Interesting....

[Anonymous No.7963222]

coffee powered spaceship

[Anonymous No.7963230]

>>7963200
Makes sense.
I'll keep it in mind and experiment with it if I ever happen to buy a new brand.

[Anonymous No.7963231]

>>7959312
>not using $20,000 espresso machines

When will you Plebs learn?

[Anonymous No.7963232]

>>7963222
ayy

[Anonymous No.7963327]

>>7963222
Google disagrees

[Anonymous No.7963680]

>>7963327
oy vey!

[Anonymous No.7964027]

>>7959319
>>7959330
Fuck caffeine pills just use Adderall

[Anonymous No.7964077]

>>7960508
i dont filter it through condensed milk though, or whatever weirdness it is they do with condensed milk

i sometimes mix the grounds with jam or chocolate powder to flavor the coffee though

>>7961980
ironically and unironically, i really hate my french press for making weak coffee that the last cup of is always basically sand

for batches of coffee, i actually like taking a pot, putting coffee in my tea steeper's stainless steel thing, and just bringing the mess to a boil. kinda turkish-ish but not quite

imo
> resto percolator > resto espresso > my vietnamese-ish > my turkish-ish > home percolator > home espresso machine > instant coffee >>>> literal shit >>>>>>>>>>> literal water >>>>>>>>>>>>>> french press coffee

i only still use my french press because its fast and im lazy

>>7962229
>not having a water main hookup
literally why not, it seems used often enough to deserve one

[Anonymous No.7964209]

A pourover cone goes a long way if you can be bothered to play around with the ratios, grind size and temperature. Quicker to make than a FP. More through extraction than a FP. Paper filter so there wont be any fines in the coffee. In the winters you can do a hot pourover. In the summer you can do a japanese ice pourover. Clean up = throwing away paper filter full of coffee

The biggest problem with it would be... Steeper learning curve. And the paper tends to absorb some of the oils from the coffee. But at the end of the day it all boils down to the kind of coffee you like drinking.

[Anonymous No.7964368]

>>7964027
Too illegal.

[Anonymous No.7964431]

I want a nonshit grinder. I have a job and money.

[Anonymous No.7964468]

>>7959319
I should too, 3 dl (½ pint) between morning and lunch gets me all jittery and sweaty, gotta pee each other hour for the rest of the day. Nasty poison, aftertaste is shit too.

[Anonymous No.7964471]

>>7964027
Fuck adderall I just use cocaine.

[Anonymous No.7964473]

>>7959312

If it isn't hooked up to the water line with its own water softener, it isn't a real espresso machine.

Espresso without crema that will float an espresso spoon's worth of sugar forbat least several seconds is unfit for human consumption.

[Anonymous No.7964725]

>>7964473
Hey mate, don't diss lever machines. That's the original espresso. The crema isn't as much as an e61, but the clarity is great and you can still get syrupy shots.

Not to mention that plenty of great SOEs don't make enough crema to float sugar.

[Anonymous No.7965306]

>if there isn't enough burnt-tire tasting robusta in your espresso such that you have a dense layer of solidified off-red orange cum over the rest of the drink, you shouldn't drink it

[Anonymous No.7965347]

>>7962513
What happened afterwards?
What's your story anon?

[Anonymous No.7965358]

>>7963165
>audiophile placebos like $10,000 headphones that aren't any better than 500 dollar ones
you know, that's actually objectively wrong.

[Anonymous No.7965375]

>>7959312
I'd drink her coffee.

And by her coffee I mean her piss.

[Anonymous No.7965433]

>>7965375
Nice try, but I will not post that image.

[Anonymous No.7965449]

>>7959312
Neck yourself, weeb.

[Anonymous No.7965454]

>>7962478
But anon, negativity is what this board revolves around
Nespresso is indeed pretty good, but I would get too bored if I had nespresso both at work and at home. I like having a bit more control at home

>>7963200
I was somewhat surprised when I discovered this. Makes sense, in hindsight. Also, some beans are easier to grind (have a manual one), but luckily I don't need to adjust that

In general it's good to have a scale. I use 7-8g for single shot and 15g for double. It doesn't take long and then I don't waste any coffee.

[Anonymous No.7965460]

>>7965358
Not that guy but with headphones, not including the source equipment, diminishing returns set in quickly past $300 or so. By the time you reach about $1500, anything more than that is just paying for bling. Those trophy cans like the Orpheus are expensive because they only made like 20 of them and everything is made of extinct dodo bird beaks and shit

With speakers it's a bit trickier to put numbers on these things because room response is such a large part of the equation, so do you count DSPs or active crossovers or bass traps, etc. You kind of have to consider the whole system, more so than with headphones where you can mix and match. But $10k isn't all that crazy of a number since you have to move so much more air.

With the horribly mastered garbage recordings people listen to, none of this matters anyway. There are probably no more than 500 commercial albums out there that are good enough to merit $1500 headphones or $10k speaker setups.

[Anonymous No.7965526]

So what do you guys prefer, robusta or arabica? I don't frequent cawfee so I can't tell the difference but many say robusta has a more 'burnt' taste to it.

[Anonymous No.7965553]

>>7965526

Good washed robusta should have little flavour but contribute to a more full bodied consistency in espresso. 5 or 10% are plenty, the rest should be Arabic beans chosen for their flavour characteristics.

[Anonymous No.7965747]

>>7965358
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTRKFkE32XE

[Anonymous No.7965752]

What do i ask for when i order coffee. I have never ordered or had actual coffee in my life.

[Anonymous No.7965926]

>>7965752
>order coffee
>I have never ordered or had actual coffee in my life.

Medium roasted pour over.

If they ask you what origin/country, just pick a Latin American country, like Brazilian. Anything except Colombian.

[Anonymous No.7966161]

Has anyone else been finding they just can't stomach coffee the same anymore? I can barely finish one cup before I start to gag trying to drink it, even worse when I get this really delicious coffee from the cafe downstairs.

I still love coffee but I have to throw so much away because it makes me gag so much. This never used to happen.

[Anonymous No.7966171]

>>7966161

You probably have gallstones.

[Anonymous No.7966203]

Bought some high quality coffee from The Barn in Berlin and used my Chemex for the first time today. Don't think I can go back to my 80s filter machine.

What do you guys use for budget grinding? If I'm paying €20+/kg of coffee I want to have a decent grinder but I can't really afford to spend a lot. Currently using pic related (this is a newer model of what I use) which my grandma gave to me and it's hard to control how fine I want to grind.

[Anonymous No.7966209]

>>7966203
>the barn
Good taste

I've got 2 different hario grinders, they are both basically shit

There's not a whole lot between the $30 mark and the $120 mark that is a real improvement though

With all the hipsters in berlin I'd think there'd be some kind of craigslist thing where you can pick up used grinders from some tatooed dirtbag for whom their $200 thing wasn't good enough

[Anonymous No.7966217]

>>7966203
>budget grinding
>electric blade grinder

The best for budget grinding are manual burr grinders.

Unlike (roughly) four years ago when it was mostly the Hario Mini Mill, Hario Skerton, and Kyocera's grinder on the market, there's now a shit load of manual burr grinders in the ~$30 usd price range to choose from.

[Anonymous No.7966231]

>>7966209
>>7966217

Thanks. I was aware that hand grinding has to be better, now looking into finding something for cheap.

[Anonymous No.7966233]

>>7966217
> there's now a shit load of manual burr grinders in the ~$30 usd price range to choose from.
none of which are really any better than the three in question (protip: kyocera grinder = hario grinder, they are literally made in the same factory)

to get a grind from these things that isn't complete dogshit (and without ricing it out with a bunch of frankenstein mods) you just need to grind slowly on a stable surface

this is infuriating and only somewhat effective, the best alternative is just spend the money on a good grinder

[Anonymous No.7966237]

>>7966171
Nah this has been going on or like a year and I don't have any pain.

It happens sometimes drinking tea too. I think I just overdid it with coffee for a while and acquired an aversion to it. Like some days when I just started getting in to coffee I would drink a couple of 9 cup cafetieres in one evening.

[Anonymous No.7966262]

>>7965752
Light roast for entry level

[Anonymous No.7968241]

bump for coffee

[Anonymous No.7968497]

What's a good grinder to look into? Is a Baratza Encore good enough, as far as electric ones go? I've been thinking about getting one.

I bought a Skerton a while ago, as my first burr grinder. It's a pain in the ass to manually grind the amount of coffee I use in a day, and it's visibly inconsistent anyway, so it feels like a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.7968605]

Basic with a generic stainless steel hand grinder and aeropress here.Don't think this one grinds as good as the last one before it broke though.

Probably going to buy a machine when this one breaks, tired of doing it by hand.

[Anonymous No.7968638]

What's a decent grinderr? I was looking at a Rancilio Rocky. I want it to be flexible. But I was reading that there might be better grinders in that range.

[Anonymous No.7968659]

I like the smell of coffee and the taste of coffee stout, but when I try to drink actual coffee it just tastes like dirty acidic water. what can I drink that has the same roasted nut flavor that's in coffee beer?

also the temperature that you get coffee at is way too hot to drink. are you supposed to let it cool down for a long time before you can actually drink it or is there some kind of trick to not burning your mouth?

[Anonymous No.7968661]

>>7968659
I brew coffee well below boiling point, the steam from the kettle should be hot enough to sting but not boiling.
After brewing, you should be able to sip without burning your mouth.

[Anonymous No.7968686]

>>7962319
I have a nespresso pixie machine. Its pretty good desu ive had it for at least a couple years. the nespresso proprietary pods are pretty wasteful like >>7962478 said and theyre kinda expensive. overall 7/10 would recommend

[Anonymous No.7968690]

>>7963327

[Anonymous No.7968707]

>>7963125
Yes, it's absolutely retarded. Might as well just be randomly dumping an amount in there, same result

[Anonymous No.7968723]

>>7964431
Wilfa svart or Vario if you really want to shell out cash

[Anonymous No.7968735]

>>7966262
More like the opposite. Dark roast is for dirty plebs who hate coffee. Light is for people who actually enjoy the flavour

[Anonymous No.7968762]

>>7964725
>The crema isn't as much as an e61

I have nothing of value to add to this thread except to qualify this Anon's statement by showing (off) the ridiculous amount of crema that I get out of my E61.

>tfw you will never experience the manly man'ness of truly black coffee because all of this crema

[Anonymous No.7968776]

>>7959312
>>7968659
Anyone here siphon? Is it worth the effort?

[Anonymous No.7968782]

>>7968497
After a month if research I said fuck it and got a manual grinder, Lido 2 (I love it)

I wanted a gaggia MDF but couldn't find one in yurop. That would've been my choice for an electric one. All the others had all kinds of little faults from what i rear, but I didn't try any of them myself so can't say much about an electric grinder

How much coffee do you use up in a day? I usually only really do the whole thing in the weekend, and I grind about 30-45g in a day, 15g at a time.

[Anonymous No.7968826]

Thoughts on instant coffee powder?

[Anonymous No.7968831]

>>7968826
never understood why thirdworlders like it desu when they literally produce coffee

[Anonymous No.7968838]

>>7968826
>instant
Good things take time.

[Anonymous No.7968846]

>>7968826
YOU SON OF A BITCH
YOU NO GOOD FRAUD
YOU LIED TO ME
YOU LIED TO ME
I'LL KILL YOU
WITH GOD AS MY WITNESS
I'LL END YOU

[Anonymous No.7968849]

>>7968826
Is instant coffee just already crushed beans? Not a coffee expert so that's the first idea that comes to mind.

[Anonymous No.7968855]

>>7963122
How about you post a real keyboard, not your kailh switch overpriced Razer garbage

Cold brewing is cool though

[Anonymous No.7968859]

>>7968849
to make instant coffee crystals, they take ages old coffee overstock, roast it until it's dark and burnt to even out the taste, then they brew it in huge vats and then quickly freeze-dry the coffee and then smash it with large hammers.

It tastes like shit by itself, so it is usually mixed with mollasses to sweeten the coffee slurry.

If you're drinking decaf, they literally pour dichloromethane and ethyl acetate into the coffee brew to extract the caffeine and then they just skim it off the top, along with the chemicals.
In order to pass FDA standards, there can be no more than 10 parts per million of chemical traces left in the finished product.

Then you just pour the crystals into hot water to reconstitute the coffee, and there you go.

[Anonymous No.7968860]

>>7963122
Are you making jenkem?

[Anonymous No.7968895]

>>7959312

Espresso a best, all else a shit

Here in South Sydney there is a small time coffee joint called White Horse, but they've expanded pretty rapidly in the past year or so. Smooth taste, takes quite a few No-Doz to emulate the caffeine punch - very much my poison of choice

Used to just have one of those shitty Aldi coffee machines but we drink enough of it so we've got a Breville machine at home

[Anonymous No.7968963]

>>7966233
Or get the shape ways mod. And follow the perger method of straining for boulders (apparently now it's fines>boulders) for v60.

Shape ways mod for the skerton is great, been drinking pic related.

>heart is pretty damn good

[Anonymous No.7968997]

>>7968963
Do Africans really drink soy sauce for breakfast?

[Anonymous No.7969495]

can anyone recommend me some decent blends to start out with. Finally picked up a french press and have a cheap starbucks espresso roast and also a medium roast Colombian blend. Where should I start? I already have a grinder (was a gift so I ended up with a blade grinder.)

[Anonymous No.7970060]

>>7969495
IDK dude go to coffee shops in your area and see what you like, then pick it up there retail.

[Anonymous No.7970062]

>>7968997
In South Africa, yeah it's a common practice.

[Anonymous No.7970127]

>>7959312
>Barista in 3rd wave coffee shop
>Drinking single origin beans and specialty blends in high volume like they're volgers
>Tipped a fuckton because people think we're some kind of luxury store
>I literally just serve people drinks that are 98% water with some bean flavoring

It's a nice gig guys.

Also:
"What's your strongest cup of coffee?"

What did they mean by this.

which is usually what I ask desu

[Anonymous No.7970263]

recommend me a coffee maker under $150

I don't care about that fancy latte shit.

[Anonymous No.7970379]

>>7970263
The Bonvita 1900TS is supposed to be one of the best consumer-grade drip machines ever.

Is this what you mean?

[Anonymous No.7970448]

>>7964471
why not methylphenidate analogues

[Anonymous No.7970561]

>>7968782
Thanks for the information, I'll look into some comparisons. With the Lido 2, do you follow the same method of doing it slowly on a counter, or is it able to handle rougher methods? I'm open to getting a hand grinder too, as long as it's good.

I use 80-120g in a day, 40g at a time. It costs a bit too much though, so I'm going to be stepping it back.

[Anonymous No.7970845]

>>7968659
>when I try to drink actual coffee it just tastes like dirty acidic water.
can i guess? you're using a drip machine that boils water and burns the coffee, paper filters you didn't rinse and/or folgers grounds

[Anonymous No.7970893]

>>7968826
Good to make flavored desserts and thats it.

[Anonymous No.7970936]

Baratza Encore and Gaggia Classic are all you need

[Anonymous No.7970938]

>>7970845
I don't make it at home. I'm talking about the times I tried getting it from starfucks of caribou.

[Anonymous No.7970984]

>>7970938
>starfucks
this is your problem.

[Anonymous No.7970988]

Turkish

[Anonymous No.7970994]

>>7970936
It's a bitch cleaning fines from an Encore though.

[Anonymous No.7971001]

>>7970988
my parents used to drink that everyday. its a pain to prepare it though.

[Anonymous No.7971015]

>>7963122

>tfw live at home with mormon parents who hate the smell of coffee so I can only make mason jar coldbrew
>discover love of coldbrew and won't drink anything else now

[Anonymous No.7971018]

>>7970561
40g at a time?? What do you do with it anon, that sounds like an awful lot

I usually rest the grinder on my hip and can go fairly fast, or sitting and with the thing between my legs (as silly as it sounds) and then it goes really fast. In a counter is horribly inefficient imo.

I did French press for a while and still used a lot less than 40g for an entire mug

Anyway, the lido is a very very sturdy machine. They also have more traveling-safe ones if you're worried about the glass jar breaking (the travel ones are made from some pretty good durable plastic). I also think it looks pretty nice too
Here's oic related of my setup, for the heck of it

[Anonymous No.7971073]

>>7970984
where can I try good coffee then? I don't want to spend $200 on equipment to make it at home when I don't even know if I actually like real coffee.

[Anonymous No.7971085]

>>7971001
i don't drink coffee but once in a blue moon but when i do

[Anonymous No.7971147]

>>7971018
>>>7970561
>40g at a time?? What do you do with it anon, that sounds like an awful lot


Not him, but bitch please. I use 50g of coffee every morning making 833ml of delectable Chemex rocket fuel. 40g isn't that much if you brew more than one cup at a time.

[Anonymous No.7971324]

I bought some supermarket columbian blend shit and it's expired because I never touched it.

Now I'm actually brewing it and it makes some really syruppy, heavy as fuck coffee and it even has a mildly sweet aftertaste.

I kinda like it.

[Anonymous No.7971441]

Pure arabica or go home

[Anonymous No.7971463]

>>7962350
Personally if I am just wanting an iced coffee I will do a quick japanese style iced coffee or if I have more time I'll set up my Kyoto tower. Usually I'll only used immersion cold brew for mixing.

[Anonymous No.7971472]

>>7962986
CommunistWitchDr is that you?

[Anonymous No.7971491]

>>7970263
Technivorm Moccamaster

[Anonymous No.7971497]

>>7970936
The encore isn't even close to passable for espresso especially when using a cheap machine.

[Anonymous No.7971595]

>>7971472
No I'm actually another guy with that same exact setup down to the peel and stick aluminum + electrical tape B on the G1.

What channel/forum/etc you be reppin? I use that name on way too many.

[Anonymous No.7971625]

>>7971018
That is a good looking setup, thanks for the recommendation. The travel one sounds pretty good, I think I'd need something like that. Going off your setup, it can do both espresso and french press well, then?

As for what I do with it, lately I make two aeropress servings, 20g coffee each, and then add one aeropress serving worth of hot water, to fill one mug. I'm too used to drinking ~24oz/~700ml of coffee at a time to make any less, at least for now. I'm still experimenting with the numbers, even in amount of water added, so it's probably a bit too much.

[Anonymous No.7971716]

does this really make tasty espresso compared to other machines at the same price point like the rancilio silvia?

[Anonymous No.7972096]

>>7970263
Moka pot and a burr grinder.
Spend more on the grinder than on the moka pot. Then it will be sufficient when you upgrade your brew method.

[Anonymous No.7972127]

>>7971595
Wasn't sure if that was you or someone who stole your pic.I remember seeing it in the battlestation threads on coffee though IIRC that windowsill on this left wasn't as empty as it is now. Definitely a memorable setup.

[Anonymous No.7972130]

>>7971716
Pavonis can pull great shots but they take a lot more practice and can be more finicky than a semi auto

[Anonymous No.7972381]

>>7972130
I can't decide between the euro or professional and then there's the wooden handles variation

[Anonymous No.7972896]

>>7972127
I had some other levers there (the pavoni and peppina, caravel is on the other side of the room) but moved them to stick a fan in that window for when I'm roasting.

[Anonymous No.7972922]

I have some people coming over on the weekend and want to be able to make enough coffee for them in one go. I've decided to do a bypass brew with my Aeropress. This is my plan:

>grind 50g coffee
>boil 1000ml water
>brew coffee with as much water as i can fit in the Aeropress
>mix with the remaining water

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.7973181]

>>7971147
>>7971625
My bad then, I'm kind of a noob on most other kinds of brewing (I only make espresso) so it sounded like a lot. But from what I gather you need more to pack a punch if you use chemex and such. I should try out some more French press maybe...

>>7972381
They look sexy as fuck, especially if they have some wood in them. But I'm too much of a lazy fuck to use them. Id be horrified if I had to be make coffee for more than 2 people at a time

[Anonymous No.7973219]

>>7970379
I got my dad one of those for this birthday last year. I probably should probably getting around to asking how he likes it.

[Anonymous No.7973226]

>>7971018
>autofrothing wand
tsk tsk

[Anonymous No.7973261]

Skelerton and aeropress at work. Have an electric kettle so I grind in the pantry and make at my desk.

Currently drinking stumptown French press, but stumptown Sumatra and their hair blender espresso blend are probably my favorite. Cannot stand fruity African coffees. Considering a subscription service but I work above a whole foods so I can get relatively fresh roasted beans whenever

[Anonymous No.7973277]

>>7972922

more coffee than I usually go with for an aeropress prepare for a strong cup

[Anonymous No.7973299]

>>7973277
Are you sure? It's only a ratio of 1:20.

[Anonymous No.7973327]

>>7973299

I'm fairly certain that the aeropress cannot hold 1000 ml of coffee

[Anonymous No.7973349]

>>7971073
look on google and yelp for a good cafe in your area

[Anonymous No.7973374]

I make coffee out of a bodum French press. Not a huge coffee drinker but it gets the job done and I love it. I have a crappy, cheap $20 blade grinder though so I have to step my game up.

[Anonymous No.7973386]

>>7959312
>no coffee audiophile shit like $1000 grinders and $2000 espresso machines

>working part-time at shitty starbucks-like Cafe/Bar because there is nothing else in this shitty town
>have the privilege working with pic related at another town for a day doing only Espresso, Ristretto and Cappucino
>this fucking machine costs between 15.000-20.000 euros

I never can go back to making burnt and strong shots for Nutella and Hazelnut-flavored Latte Machiatos with cream, syrup and brittle on top. At least we make twice as much money on that shit compared to the other store...

[Anonymous No.7973405]

>>7959312
>whole beans - varies between a breakfast blend and single origin Guatamalan (both organic)
>this grinder, in my pic
>either drip machine or moka pot
>drink black
Done.

[Anonymous No.7973441]

>>7963222
Reminds me a little bit of those huge organs you see at a church.

[Anonymous No.7973448]

>>7973327
Of course it can't. I didn't say I was going to put the remaining water in the Aeropress.

[Anonymous No.7973483]

>>7959312

>2000 espresso machines

lol m8 that would be a seriously shitty espresso machine, a decent one costs around 9000 euro

[Anonymous No.7973484]

>>7973448

i misread your initial post (Didn't realize you were diluting). Sounds good to me!

[Anonymous No.7973523]

>>7964077

>ironically and unironically, i really hate my french press for making weak coffee that the last cup of is always basically sand

you know youre supposed to use coarse grind in the french press, right?

[Anonymous No.7973548]

>>7973484
Cool

[Anonymous No.7973585]

>>7973548
>>7972922
i hope you realize i didn't read your entire reply chain because it had a frog attached to it

[Anonymous No.7973595]

>>7973585
Didn't read a word of this post.

[Anonymous No.7973731]

>>7973585

cool fucking blog, dick.

[Anonymous No.7975863]

bump

[Anonymous No.7976281]

>>7972922
let us know how it goes my dude

[Anonymous No.7976289]

>>7964077
they don't filter it through anything, there's just sweetened condensed milk in the cup if you want it.

[Anonymous No.7976900]

Anybody have recommendations for a decent but cheap coffee maker/brewer? Specifically one that isn't a meme french press or espresso machine, because I could really care less, I enjoy the convenience of a coffee maker and the taste of it, even if it is inferior.

[Anonymous No.7977051]

>>7965926
Why anything except Colombian? Colombia produces a lot of great coffee.

[Anonymous No.7977064]

>>7968497
I bought an encore about a year and a half ago and I love it. The grind quality is definitely a lot better than my porlex mini and having ground coffee in twenty seconds is pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.7977066]

>>7968776
I messed with one for a while. I don't like cleaning it or taking care of the cloth filter. It'd be cool if you entertained guests or something but I don't do it just kinda sits there.

[Anonymous No.7977510]

>>7961982

I don't even mind bottled iced coffee but Barista Bros. is shit, it had the most disgusting taste.

[Anonymous No.7977834]

>>7977051
It's pretty acidic and often similar to Folgers. It may not be the "smoothest" type of coffee for an inexperience palate.

[Anonymous No.7979478]

>start making good coffee
>can no longer stomach the gas station swill I used to enjoy
Why did I do this to myself?

[Anonymous No.7979978]

I make it in a sauce pan. I preboil the water and add some salt to the grounds. Then boil on high for a few minutes. I like it. I haven't tried it black yet but I've been adding less and less cream.

[Anonymous No.7980004]

are coffee syphons good?

[Anonymous No.7980280]

>>7965460
>less than 500 commercial albums
Name some, I'm curious

[Anonymous No.7980283]

>>7959319
Coffee is NOT a drug, don't you ever call it a drug again. Black coffee is one of the most sophisticated things you can drink. Sugar is the real fucking drug, and YOU ARE A FUCKING SUGAR ADDICTED DRUG ADDICT. GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD RIGHT NOW YOU FUCKING RETARD. SUGAR IS NOT /ck/ RELATED.

[Anonymous No.7980306]

12g coffee, 240ml water
Aeropress

Delicious

[Anonymous No.7980356]

>'alright! coffee thread!'
>anime pic
>*click* thread hidden

[Anonymous No.7981494]

What is the best instant coffee you have ever tried?

And I already know most people here don't like instant coffee.

[Anonymous No.7981500]

>>7981494
nescafe clasico tastes alright without making me gag but it's sickenly sweet on it's own

i tried folgers instant once and it tasted rancid

[Anonymous No.7981522]

how do I enjoy coffee black?
I can give up the sugar, but i can't part with cream, it adds body and gives it a nice chocolately feel

[Anonymous No.7981696]

>>7981494
Try "Sudden coffee", probably the only halfway ok one out there until "Violà" hits the market.

[Anonymous No.7982319]

>>7968826
Good for camping when you want something hot that resembles coffee after hiking 23 miles and you are soaked to the bone but you don't feel like carrying a bunch of stuff. Finding a good freeze dried brand does wonders for enjoyment. Same with food, no one would say that a can of tuna, some powdered creme of mushroom soup with a side of instant mashed potatoes is better than a 300 dollar meal but hunger is the best seasoning.

Other than that there is little point to it when you have other options and are at home.

[Anonymous No.7982332]

>>7970127
You should full well know what they mean, smartass.

[Anonymous No.7982399]

>>7968723
I was thinking a rocky or preciso looked appropriate

sort of worried about the bartazas breaking

[Anonymous No.7982470]

>>7982319

[Anonymous No.7982559]

>>7981522
Cold turkey anon, it's the only way
It also helps if you get yourself to think you're better than everyone else just for having your coffee black. Call the others fags for putting milk in theirs or something, it seems to make a lot of people feel very good about themselves
You know, "drink your coffee like a man!" and whatnot

But really, it helps if you have a biscuit or a cookie with it maybe, if it's too bitter. If it's only about the texture...well, just use milk

Why do you wanna stop using milk anyway?

[Anonymous No.7982623]

>>7982470
That is a much more succinct and better worded than what I wrote.

[Anonymous No.7982811]

>>7968963
>shape ways mod
which one? there's two of them.

[Anonymous No.7983786]

>>7962216
We have a super auto at work. Makes pretty shit espresso to be honest.

[Anonymous No.7983878]

>>7982319
>not just taking a mokapot and preground

[Anonymous No.7984963]

bumping!

[Anonymous No.7985088]

What sort of recipe do you lot follow with your aeropress? I use 15g coffee, 200ml water, 90 second brew time. I need to start letting it bloom, as of now I just pour it all in.

[Anonymous No.7985096]

>>7962216
is that machine any good? reviewers seem to like it. A family member can get me one for 40% off at williams-sonoma certain times of the year.

[Anonymous No.7985118]

>>7960486
Not gonna infuse all the coffeeness from grinds. Just get $15 moca pot. Perfect investment.

[Anonymous No.7985122]

Simple. Elegant. Delicious.

[Anonymous No.7985145]

coffee is a poor man's stimulant

[Anonymous No.7985387]

>>7985118
Or he could buy a $10 french press that does exactly what he's trying to do.

[Anonymous No.7985457]

>>7972922
>>7976281
Turns out not many people wanted coffee, so I only ground 40g. I poured the water in and panicked when I saw that the grounds at the bottom remained dry. I usually just shake the Aeropress but that didn't work, so I stirred it with the handle of my grinder.

The final product was decent.

[Anonymous No.7986480]

>>7970936
I have both and have been frequently frustrated by the Encore.
>grind at 4, machine chokes no crema
>grind at 5, good flow and crema but sour sour sour
>>7970994
Compressed air.

[Anonymous No.7986588]

>>7977834
i see you. i actually was very turned off by bright acidity in coffees when i first got into it but now smoother coffees taste sorta flat to me.

[Anonymous No.7987029]

>>7960486
Can you rec a tea steeper for me off Amazon or some shit.

[Anonymous No.7987549]

>>7962986
What the fuck is dialing in the beans and should I be doing this

[Anonymous No.7987969]

>>7987549
It sounds somewhat pretentious and people love using it, I'll give you that, but it is a useful term

It means figuring out the perfect grind size for your machine or whatever you're using to actually make coffee aka extract

For example like the anon said about the encore previously, he tried with 4 and he tried with 5 but neither are right. If he could get a 4.5 and would get a perfect coffee with that, that would be "dialing in" his grind

[Anonymous No.7988505]

I'm going back for my second year of college this year and thinking of getting an electric kettle/percolator for coffee. My room won't have any stoves or anything like that, but there will be a sink.

Would a percolator be a better idea than a kettle for overall use? I'll be mainly using it for coffee/tea. Or, I could get a kettle and a pour over coffee dripper.

Any ideas/thoughts on what would be better quality and better value?

[Anonymous No.7988529]

>>7988505
>Would a percolator be a better idea than a kettle for overall use
Why not get both?

If you only drink coffee, go with a drip machine. But if you also drink tea regularly then get a kettle and a French press or Aeropress or something like that. I like drip machines because you can program them and waking up to the smell of coffee is awesome, especially if it was in your room with you.

[Anonymous No.7988554]

>>7986480
are you sure you're not under-extracting?

[Anonymous No.7988567]

>>7988529
I was thinking of a pour over coffee dripper, not a machine. Something like pic related because I've heard they make better tasting coffee. Plus, I can get an electric kettle along with this for tea and whatnot.

A drip machine wouldn't be too bad, but it's a big question of space since a pour-over would take up less space IMO.

Still on the fence about the percolator. Right now it's a tossup of percolator vs. kettle + pour over for me.

[Anonymous No.7990250]

>>7988505
I just bought an electric kettle and I've already gotten a ton of use out of it between coffee and tea myself. I would recommend one. Admittedly though, I've never used a percolator.

[Anonymous No.7991096]

Am I supposed to double-filter my coffee when using a french press?
I get this very fine disgusting black silt every time I finish my cup and it prevents me from drinking the last sip unless i let it settle and drink it very slowly.

[Anonymous No.7991168]

>>7959312
>coffee audiophile
>audiophile
>audio

You could have just said coffeephiles or coffeeholics or somesuch, but not some nonsensical and completely unrelated term like audio you dumb fucking bitch.

[Anonymous No.7991365]

>>7991168
>coffeephiles
ugly word.

>coffeeholic
sounds dumb and lame tryhard. who the fuck can say is "addicted" to coffee?

coffee audiophile is a great term to describe hardcore coffee purists.

so, fuck off, my man.

[Anonymous No.7991373]

>>7991168
people on this board understand what an audiophile is and how stupid they tend to be

now apply the word coffee in front of it and you can get the gist
it's people who buy expensive placebo espresso hardware.

[Anonymous No.7991377]

I need to get a new moka pot, because my old one is busted.

Should i get a generic one or a Bialetti? Are they supergood or just pretty alright like all moka pots?

[Anonymous No.7991379]

mfw I'm late and have to drink office coffee.

[Anonymous No.7991390]

>>7991379
>pic

baristas were a mistake.

[Anonymous No.7991419]

>>7991390

[Anonymous No.7991604]

>>7991096
I'm actually having this same problem and I can't think of anything to do about it except deal with it until the beginning of an idea to fix it forms
I do this with all my problems and now that I think of it, it's no wonder how little I get done

[Anonymous No.7991615]

>>7991390
what do you mean?

[Anonymous No.7991878]

>>7962478
>> also general Nestle corporate hate that's not worth going in to on /ck/
Why would anyone hate the Nestle corporation?

[Anonymous No.7991905]

>>7979478
I'm pretty sure the only reason I don't like instant coffee as much is because other people told me it wasn't as good.

[Anonymous No.7991907]

>>7991905
>literal roasted dirt tastes good, but people convinced me otherwise

ur retarded.

[Anonymous No.7992355]

>be instant coffee pleb
>walk by new coffee place that opened in town
>gust of delicious smell hits my nostrils and drags me by the nose hairs into the shop
>inside the place looks bare
>just a small bar with coffee machine & grinder at the front and a huge empty space behind it
>on the back wall a massive roasting oven and on the side huge jute bags of coffee beans
>look at the sign with all sorts of beans and roastings
>ask the man at the front which one he likes the most
>its the same kind he makes to customers by default
>order a cup
>its the most delicious cup of joe i've ever tasted
>its almost like im not drinking coffee
>so fruity and overall GREAT
>buy a bag to take home
>he grinds it for me on the spot since i have no grinder
>the smell that is emanating from this bag jesus christ i was sniffing it all day long
>since then bought a french press and grinder
>now the beans to grind on the spot and have a fresh cup every morning
>tfw i can never consider drinking instant ever again

if anyone is interested the coffee beans are a pea berry variety from costa rica and are light roasted.

[Anonymous No.7992359]

>be instant coffee pleb
>walk by new coffee place that opened in town
>gust of delicious smell hits my nostrils and drags me by the nose hairs into the shop
>inside the place looks bare
>just a small bar with coffee machine & grinder at the front and a huge empty space behind it
>on the back wall a massive roasting oven and on the side huge jute bags of coffee beans
>look at the sign with all sorts of beans and roastings
>ask the man at the front which one he likes the most
>its the same kind he makes to customers by default
>order a cup
>its the most delicious cup of joe i've ever tasted
>its almost like im not drinking coffee
>so fruity and overall GREAT
>buy a bag to take home
>he grinds it for me on the spot since i have no grinder
>the smell that is emanating from this bag jesus christ i was sniffing it all day long
>since then bought a french press and grinder
>now i buy the beans to grind on the spot and have a fresh cup every morning
>tfw i can never consider drinking instant ever again

if anyone is interested the coffee beans are a pea berry variety from costa rica and are light roasted.

[Anonymous No.7992361]

>be instant coffee pleb
>walk by new coffee place that opened in town
>gust of delicious smell hits my nostrils and drags me by the nose hairs into the shop
>inside the place looks bare
>just a small bar with coffee machine & grinder at the front and a huge empty space behind it
>on the back wall a massive roasting oven and on the side huge jute bags of coffee beans
>look at the sign with all sorts of beans and roastings
>ask the man at the front which one he likes the most
>its the same kind he makes to customers by default
>order a cup
>its the most delicious cup of joe i've ever tasted
>its almost like im not drinking coffee
>so fruity and overall GREAT
>buy a bag to take home
>he grinds it for me on the spot since i have no grinder
>the smell that is emanating from this bag jesus christ i was sniffing it all day long
>since then bought a french press and grinder
>now i buy the beans to grind on the spot and have a fresh cup every morning
>tfw i can never consider drinking instant ever again
>mfw sniffing the bag of fresh ground beans

if anyone is interested the coffee beans are a pea berry variety from costa rica and are light roasted.

[Anonymous No.7992368]

>>7992361
hi there my /fit/ brother

[Anonymous No.7992374]

>>7992361
..and if you think your french is good, wait 'till you try espresso!

>tfw pass the point of no return

[Anonymous No.7992379]

>>7960486
I use these tea bags to brew coffee.

When using good beans it still turns out much better than the shit I can buy almost anywhere else, including most "real" coffee shops.

[Anonymous No.7992382]

>>7992368
oh hey mang, just remembered i posted about this coffee before but couldn't remember where..

>>7992374
dammit man i'm an easy spender...

[Anonymous No.7992391]

[Anonymous No.7992445]

>>7991096
>>7991604
If you use pre-grinded coffee, buy beans and use a coarser grind. French Press needs coarse grinds. Also, a litte bit of this shit stays in your cup. That's just how it is.

>>7991377
Bialetti Brikka, 2cups edition. By far the best on the market. Thank me later.

[Anonymous No.7992881]

>>7992445
Oh okay
I have it ground as coarsely as my local shop has instructed me for the French press
But it's good to know that even if I do everything right there's just gonna be some silt and there's nothing wrong with my press
Thanks man

[Anonymous No.7992928]

>>7959312

I'm a pretty down to earth guy and enjoy black coffee, no matter the beans used.
But sometimes, on rainy days, I get out to a coffee shop with a good book and get a nice hot cup of chino.

[Anonymous No.7993063]

>>7964468
try l theanine for jitters, and fresher coffee for aftertaste

[Anonymous No.7993068]

>>7992379
why don't they sell these everywhere

[Anonymous No.7993071]

>>7992361
>tfw used to drink instant coffee with milk and 2 sugars

[Anonymous No.7993187]

>>7992445
>Bialetti Brikka

oh we dont have these in my country, but i saw it on ebay and interested me a lot. is it really good? looks like it can make a lot of foam, which means it puts out a lot of pressure, and that means strong espresso.

[Anonymous No.7993196]

>>7993187
>and that means strong espresso

fuckin kek

[Anonymous No.7993198]

>>7993196

are u havin an audiophile giggle, pal?

[Anonymous No.7993211]

>>7993198
how can it be "strong espresso" if it isn't espresso?

my fuckin sides!!

[Anonymous No.7993751]

>>7992445
is the 4 cups edition worse, then?

[Anonymous No.7994023]

>>7970448
>not injecting grizzly bear adrenaline into your testes

Why bother

[Anonymous No.7994305]

>>7959330
Caffeine + DMSO is even cheaper.

[Anonymous No.7994306]

>>7991168
headphones = espresso machine, pour over, french press etc.
amp = grinder
dac = scales
audio source = coffee beans

[Anonymous No.7994330]

Aren't you supposed to NOT heat your coffee to boiling point? or am I thinking of tea?

[Anonymous No.7994338]

>>7994330
yeah, you don't boil the water, or else you'll burn the grounds and get the bitter, acidic taste of diner house coffee

[Anonymous No.7994340]

>>7994330
your coffee will have burnt taste if you brew it with 212 water

[Anonymous No.7994354]

I like Foldger's

[Anonymous No.7994370]

>>7994354
i like folgers too

[Anonymous No.7994775]

>>7994306
mp3 = nespresso

[Anonymous No.7994810]

>>7994775
nespresso is a mp3 music@128 kpbs on ipod touch

[Anonymous No.7994871]

>>7962270
Aeropress, nigga.

[Anonymous No.7995443]

I bought a pour-over thing today because it looked neat and my french press mesh screen stopped working.

I've never used a pour over but I have a general understanding of how it works. Does the water need to be boiling hot for it to work well or can I get away with a pathetic 195 degrees? I have one of those stupid water heaters set to 195 all day for tea and apparently it has some sort of drip function that I might finally get to use.

[Anonymous No.7995462]

>>7995443
If your coffee is fine enough, 195 should work.

[Anonymous No.7995483]

>>7995462
I suppose that makes sense. I noticed there was a difference between 195 and boiling using my french press. If the little icons on my grinder are any indication I think the pour over uses a finer grind anyway. I guess once it gets delivered to me I'll be able to see just how fine the strainer is.

[Anonymous No.7996073]

>>7962986
Not at all sold on the freezing beans meme. Hendon and Pergulator pulled the wool over yer eyes m8. As evidenced by SC's experiments with solubility, the fines are not contributing enough to the ext yield to be worth freezing.

Sure, freezing makes your fines a bit more even in their distribution, but it makes the rest of the grind much less even. The rest of the grind is giving you like 70% of the yield. Why fuck up 70% for 30%?

I reckon that your consistency increase is from the routine mastery instead. But either way, if the coffee is good it is pretty hard to screw up the brew. So small changes like freezing will make less diff than a good consistent even routine. It's like going from a k30 to a mythos - you get good shots from both, but if you can chose the k30, why the hell not?

[Anonymous No.7996077]

>>7968762
Looks like something is wrong there bud. Either your coffee is too fresh, or too roasty, or your water is really fucked up (too high of a KH). Also, weigh that shit!

Also,
>muh crema
lol

[Anonymous No.7996094]

Been trying out some different brew ratios lately, seeing what I can work out for 3.5% and 5% respectively.

5% could be a hard sell in a cafe environment, due to the smallness of the bev.
3.5% is really a happy medium I think. It's about the amount of coffee I like to drink in one go (120g roughly). But maybe still on the small side to have a broad appeal without some acclimation on the customer end of thangs.

I really think that this sort of brew ratio is something that people are asking for without necessarily knowing it. So many want "smooth" or "full bodied" or "strong" or "rich" etc. This gives you that, even from a light roast, and in a way that other ratios don't really give.

Gives me an excuse to use the espresso machine more often as well.

[Anonymous No.7996198]

>>7993187
Yes, it really is. Pic related is a cortado I made with mine.

>>7993751
Yes. Somehow the Xpresso is worse with it and you don't have a good pseudo-cream as with the 2cup.

[Anonymous No.7996374]

>>7996198
nice Xpresso farn!

[Anonymous No.7996393]

>>7996198
Thanks for the info, that's a bit of a shame. Makes enough sense though, I would guess the process can be perfected easier on smaller amounts.

[The Muffin !!GjE/mKMLRkG No.7996455]

Is an expensive grinder even necessary for drip coffee?

My bean to cup machine shat itself and I'm looking into new methods.

[Anonymous No.7996721]

Due Vietnam coffee dripper is like $5 and makes a perfect cup once you know what to do

[Anonymous No.7996775]

>>7996374
Thx lad.

>>7996393
You're right. The bigger versions are good, too. But with the small one, you can have higher quality. On the downside, the small ones are somewhat "bitchy" and while having a good Xpresso on average, getting a great one takes some time because you have to wary in grind and the amount of water and coffee with every other bean you use.

>>7996455
Depends what you call expensive. You're right: for drop coffee the grind doesn't need to be as consistent as for Espresso and such. If you want to drink something else, like French press, I'd buy a good grinder.

[Anonymous No.7996838]

>>7962478
Nespresso will send you a self addressed UPS recycling envelope for your used pods. When it's filled and ready, they will schedule UPS to pick it up from your home at no charge to you.

https://www.nespresso.com/us/en/order/accessories/original/recycling-bag

>>7991878
>Why would anyone hate the Nestle corporation?
In short, they are an extremely unethical company, and a popular hate-figure.
Unethical for multiple reasons
• Providing milk powder to mothers in 3rd world countries for free for a month or so; long enough for the breast milk to dry up. Then they stop giving it for free and start charging (A lot, relative to the countries economy). Obviously it's horribly unethical, it's also incredibly similar to how drug dealers supposedly hook kids.
• 'mine water' in the same 3rd world countries, effectively draining out wells in small, poor villages. They then bottle and sell said water around the world, but also to the now waterless villagers.
• Employ 3rd world villagers/effectively slaves/similar Nike style bullshit.
• Lobbied gov't in Canada to give them even more massively reduced costs on mined water (I think it was something like $2 per million gallons)
• The CEO has gone on record as saying he doesn't see water as a human right, and thinks he should be free to sell it to people at whatever price he wants
More than anything it's just that they're a popular hate figure, as I mentioned, Nike does a lot of similar bullshit, and rightly got a lot of flack for it a few years ago.

[Anonymous No.7996843]

>>7996838
None of what you said is unethical.

[Anonymous No.7996847]

>>7996775
i was kidding you faggot. it's not espresso, and don't call it "Xpresso".

[Anonymous No.7996852]

>>7996843
Nice try Nestlé ceo

[Anonymous No.7996863]

>>7976900
Aeropress or a moka pot

[Anonymous No.7996874]

I currently use a moka pot and french press, but want to add a pourover. Is Chemex as good as people say, or is it a brand name? Any recommendations?

Also paper or metal filters?

[Anonymous No.7996875]

>>7996847
It's neither Moka nor Espresso and in some forums Xpresso is used for giving it a name.

[Anonymous No.7996935]

I use an electric grinder I bought for £20. I buy 6kg of beans every 5 months for £40.

I'm drinking out of a £5 Hario single cup filter thing

Only problem is I think it uses too much ground for each serving.
For double what I'm using for a single mug I could use a drip and make a pot of coffee.

[Anonymous No.7997096]

>>7996838
Sounds like it's perfectly targeted marketing for their consumers. "Hey guys we give this stuff for free for a month to all these poor black people! We care! We're just casually going to gloss over the fact that it's not part of an actual plan to solve problems". Western normies love this stuff

[Anonymous No.7997150]

So all I have is a ten dollar drip off brand coffee maker. I usually buy maxwell house, due to it being the best out of the cheapies. I also enjoy a Starbucks coffee. I like my coffee black. Am I really, truly missing out, or is this all just a bunch of circle jerking?

I work 60 hours a week, so I don't have a lot of spare time, is putting a little more in really worth the effort?

[Anonymous No.7997158]

>>7997150
get a french press, hand grinder and a bag of arabica coffee beans, youll thank me later

[Anonymous No.7997173]

>>7997150
get a moka pot, burr grinder, and a bag of freshly roatsed aribica beans. you'll thank yourself later.

[Anonymous No.7997298]

moka pot or french press?

[Anonymous No.7997384]

>>7997298
french press if you actually want to drink coffee
moka pot makes a tiny shot glass of "espresso"

[Anonymous No.7997387]

>>7996073
That's not what a mean. I freeze to keep freshness. I thaw them the night before. That way each shot is exactly as fresh as the last making dialing much easier.

[Anonymous No.7997388]

>>7997298
french press
if you dont nail it first couple of times you still can enjoy a good cup of coffe

if you fuckup mokapot youll drink bitter brown water

[Anonymous No.7997401]

New to making coffee directly from beans, so I'm not too sure. A friend recently bought be a burr grinder. Grabbed some beans today.
I have some cold brew stewing until tomorrow which I'm looking forward to, but what should I do with these beans to make a regular hot cup? Drip filter? Cafetiere? (seems to remain a little 'powdery' so far) Is there a single best method for this?

[Anonymous No.7997427]

>>7997401
french press

[Anonymous No.7997428]

>>7997298
Moka pot is easier to use, just fill it up with coffee and water and make sure you turn it off in time.
But french press has the advantage that you can control the concentration of the coffee and make multiple cups at once.

Personally I prefer moka because I never got the hang of the french press but if you don't like espresso get the french press.

[Anonymous No.7997509]

>>7997428
What's there to do?
You pour grounds in, pour hot water and brew for 4 minutes.

there's nothing to screw up

[Anonymous No.7997982]

>>7981494
Moccona Indulgence

[Anonymous No.7997996]

>>7997428
>Moka pot is easier to use, just fill it up with coffee

But not all the way. Slightly past the halfway point in the funnel will give you a great extraction.

Use too much and it'll be sour as fuck.

[Anonymous No.7998580]

>>7997387
Oh! Yeah, I am about that.

[Anonymous No.7999106]

Can anyone recommend a good grinder for French press? $100 budget, but I won't spend that much if it's not worth it.

[Anonymous No.7999138]

>>7999106
>under $100
just buy a walmart blade grinder

[Anonymous No.7999570]

>>7999106
Feldgrind is right around there

[Anonymous No.8000414]

>>7996874
chemex is great. v60 is also another option but harder to use. use paper filters, it will give you a much cleaner lighter cup than the murky bitterness you can get with a metal filter (as in french press)

>>7999106
porlex mini ($50) and an aeropress ($30)
otherwise just make sure it's burr, NOT blade. buying a blade grinder is half-assing it, because you can't control the grind size at all so you're not going to get any consistency which kind of defeats the point of grinding fresh in the first place (ie getting a significant improvement in taste). otherwise just ask the barista to grind your beans for whatever your preferred brew method is when you buy your bag each week. their industrial grinders will be much better quality.

[Anonymous No.8000499]

>>7962270
Hmm, well with a moka pot you're not really supposed to get much grounds in the coffee. Maybe you boiled it too hard or long?
And with a french press I think it would help if you used more coursely ground coffee beans and let it steep for a bit longer. If you use filter ground coffee you will get a sediment.
Disregard this if it was bait.

[Anonymous No.8001936]

Ehh.. I want


want...

[Anonymous No.8002064]

>>7963122
what do you use to filter the grounds? what ratio do you use? also, what sort of grind?

[Anonymous No.8002198]

>>7962216
I just bought one of these bad boys on Amazon. The damn thing seems way too good to be true at that price point, but everywhere I look it gets great reviews. Even some of the snobbier coffee websites really seem to like it. I'm beyond excited for this fucker. Only thing I'm concerned about is the grinder since I don't have one, but it'll have to do. Now I just have to find some quality beans from a local roaster or someone that can ship them quickly. Any ideas? I live in the LA area btw.

[Anonymous No.8002205]

>black coffee and sweetened condensed milk master race

[Anonymous No.8002210]

>>8002205
>black

that's practically milk
you might as well drink a soda

[Anonymous No.8002216]

>>8002210
nah son, you only use one, to only a half a tablespoon of SCM, thats the color it turned.

[Anonymous No.8002217]

I drink about 2 K-Cups a day with 2% milk and sugar in the raw at the office. Is that enough to trigger coffee fags?

[Anonymous No.8002251]

>>8002217
shaking

>>7997996
diff cu/ck/ here
huh, weird. I fill it up to like 105% but I add hot/boiled water to the bottom container before putting it on the stove.
extremely quick extraction, lots of aromas and only a tad bit bitter, but that's what you get with >80 deg extraction
that said will try your method tomorrow morning, thanks for the input!

[Anonymous No.8002253]

>>7997982
>DE
dropped

[Anonymous No.8002543]

>>8002217
Bro, I'm in the same boat. French Vanilla K-Cups with a splash of milk and I'm good. So many people here want the finest of shit and I'll drink anything with caffeine.

[Anonymous No.8002621]

>>8002198
augies

[Anonymous No.8002650]

>>8002621
I'll try it out, They seem to have good prices. Thanks man.

Have a (You)

[Anonymous No.8002667]

whats the best keurig coffee? ive been doing the starbucks kind but it gets pricey.

>>7963146
never tried that, does it come out ok?

[Anonymous No.8002773]

>>8002667
>whats the best keurig coffee?
fill it with dishwasher detergent and clean the ignorance out of your body

[Anonymous No.8002823]

>>7963122
Office has shitty Keurig coffee so my coworker and I do the ol' Mason jar cold brew. 1:3 coffee to water ratio. Shit is dank. Tried many diff beans and surprisingly Dunkin medium roast is really damn good.

Also add some chicory root for that dank New Orleans flavor.

[Anonymous No.8002829]

>>8002064
Line a wire mesh strainer with cheesecloth.

I find that a regular coffee filter is too fine.

[Anonymous No.8002899]

>>8002217
Is it out of a Styrofoam cup?

[Anonymous No.8002913]

>>7985096
not a fan of the breville 800 series. even after the infuser supposedly fixed temp by adding an internal pid they still have shit brewing temperature consistency resulting in shot after shot of under extracted undrinkable swill.

[Anonymous No.8003779]

>>7962319
If you want pod coffee get an Illy pod machine, just a step up.

Get some damn good crema on mine. Check out the Y5 milk or the Gaggia for Illy which you can get for $100 bucks.

[Anonymous No.8003787]

>>7968855
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/the-whitefox-keyboard

Should I get this?

[Anonymous No.8003794]

>>7968762
Is that really crema looks like overexposure

[Anonymous No.8003806]

>>7970127
It means give them 12 shots and a bit of soy milk

Which reminds me why does this taste so sweet when you get it from starbucks, I never asked for sugar

[Anonymous No.8003903]

>>7982811
http://www.shapeways.com/product/JLU2RCSZY/hario-skerton-coffee-grinder-bottom-bracket

The croth one you have to sand down which is retarded imo

[Anonymous No.8003904]

>>7981696
>Violà
wa la

[Anonymous No.8004398]

bought java beans
these shit tier or what?

[Anonymous No.8004526]

Just made my first coffee with the Aeropress. As expected, mum seemed a little skeptical and claimed that it took "too long" and that it was a "hassle". She isn't normally like this but for some reason when it comes to things like coffee or tea she gets a little pissy. In her defense, I messed it up the first time around and forgot to put the damn filter in, had to clean up and start over from the beginning. Won't make that mistake again. All in all, pretty good coffee. I've never been a big coffee drinker so I have nothing to compare it to, but it was good.

[Anonymous No.8004698]

>>7968831
Because they sell the coffee, silly.

[Anonymous No.8004992]

>>8003903
Thanks, buddy.

[Anonymous No.8005189]

>>7965449

[Anonymous No.8005199]

>>8004526
>took "too long"

You only have to stir for 40 - 60 seconds before pressing.

Are you going slow during your prep?

[Anonymous No.8005500]

NEW THREAD!

>>8005499