/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.7816951]

>20% is the new tip standard

discuss.

[Anonymous No.7816954]

I think it's the fault of lazy people who didn't want to figure out what 15% was.

[Anonymous No.7816957]

You can't just make something else the standard. That's not how standards work.

[Anonymous No.7816960]

>>7816951
15-20% has always been the standard.

I always just tip $20 or 20%, whichever is higher.

[Anonymous No.7816962]

>>7816951

increase my meal by 20%, just dont call it a tip. Hell, I can get up and grab my own food and water from a drink machine.

Waiters need to check their fucking privilege

[Anonymous No.7816970]

>>7816951
>incoming: people bitching about tipping.

[Anonymous No.7816985]

I tip at least 5 bucks wherever I go, because I almost never eat out.

It's the fault of the food industry which wants to underpay workers to put even more cost on the person buying food, but I'm not going to make someone get minimum wage because of the establishment.

If anything, it just proves how absolutely insane going out to eat is, you spend generally 10 dollars+ per plate after taxes & tip no matter where you go unless it's cheap fast food

For a plate of say a chicken sandwich, usually 10 bucks after all said and done at a restaurant, you could have bought pounds upon pounds of meat and vegetables and ate like a king at home

[Anonymous No.7817018]

>>7816951
I just do one dollar per person or 1 dollar per drink if I'm at the bar. If I open a tab I do 2 dollars at the bar. The price of the food shouldn't have anything to do with the tip

[Anonymous No.7817080]

>>7816951
I will tip what I consider how you served me. I don't give a single fuck about your """"""""standard"""""""", wageslave. Not my problem you accepted a momkey-tier job.

>inb4 I will spit in your food :DDDD

[Anonymous No.7817090]

Do most people realize almost all servers and bartenders tip out a percentage of their sales to the rest of the staff? So assholes who don't tip are making a server pay out of their own pockets.

[Anonymous No.7817094]

>>7817090
that's illegal in the united states..

[Anonymous No.7817095]

>don't tip one time
>waitress follows me out of the restaurant and to my car in order to chew me out
>calls me an asshole for taking food from her children's mouth

I don't fucking get it, you think I'd change my mind and give you a $20 after you just insulted me?

I don't tip anymore, btw.

[Anonymous No.7817100]

>>7817095
I'm guessing you are either black, jewish, red-dot indian or wear a fedora.

[Anonymous No.7817103]

>>7817094
In Canada its a very real thing, most restaurants make you tip out 5% of your sales to the kitchen, bussers, hosts etc.

[Anonymous No.7817105]

>>7817103
so beastiality you fucking leaf.

[Anonymous No.7817120]

>>7817103
>5%
AH HA HA HA HA HA
no. 2%, 3.5% at the higher end resteraunts.

[Anonymous No.7817142]

$5, that is the maximum I tip.
when a waiter is dealing with a section of tables, and turning over each one inside of an hour, if everybody paid $5 they would still be making $30 an hour tax free.
Most people tip more than that which is why those poor abused waiters make $400-$600 for a dinner shift.

the cost of my meal shouldn't determine your tip, whether you carried out a steak or a plate of chicken fingers your job was no harder

[Anonymous No.7817162]

The standard used to be 10%, then 15%. Like hell I'm giving 20%.

[Anonymous No.7817232]

>>7816951
I tipped a papa johns delivery boy 20 bucks, he was doing late night delivery over hours so yeah dude earned it I think

[Anonymous No.7817246]

>>7817232
No you didn't and or no he didn't

[Anonymous No.7817247]

>>7817246
not that guy but I always tip a 20 to the delivery guy. it's not that unusual.

[Anonymous No.7817264]

>>7817142
That money is not tax free

It is if you do t report any of your tips until the irs fucks you in the ass for not paying taxes of thousands of dollars of annual income

[Anonymous No.7817273]

I never understood why tipping norms increase with time. Inflation isn't a good answer since we're talking percentages here. Bills get larger with inflation too. Is it just because we're moving to a more service based economy and more and more entitled people with degrees are joining the workforce. Serving in anything but the top restaurants in your city isn't supposed to give you anything more than money to live modestly off. You aren't supposed to buy a car and house off money made off serving.

[Anonymous No.7817279]

>>7817273
because people like to one-up each other. when you go out to eat with your friends, there is often one person who pays attention to what other people leave so they can leave just a little more.

[Anonymous No.7817290]

>tfw you live in a small city
>tfw you take care of your servers and bartenders because they take care of you

and by "take care of," i mean i tip well and they give me the hook on free apps, drinks, deserts and employee priced meals.

[Anonymous No.7817294]

>>7816960
Nah that was only if the service was great or outstanding. It used to be 10% in 80-90's

[Anonymous No.7817297]

>>7817294
that was before waiting tables outside a fine dining place was a possible career.

[Anonymous No.7817308]

fuk

[Anonymous No.7817310]

>>7816954
/thread

[Anonymous No.7817345]

Do you tip the McDonalds monkeys in your pathetic countries too?

I mean, they get paid shit wages too.

[Anonymous No.7817360]

>>7817345
no because that's counter service. we tip waiters, which is what you would probably be if you came to our "pathetic" country.

[Anonymous No.7817362]

>>7817308
>I'm a volunteer
>give me money

That's not how that works Pedro

[Anonymous No.7817364]

>>7817362
his name isn't pedro, it's Jaime.

[Anonymous No.7817366]

>>7817094
I'm pretty sure paying out to the restaurant is illegal but paying out to other employees

And even if it's illegal I've noticed only upscale places do it cause then if a waiter makes a shit fit about it they loose the 800 dollars they were making a night

[Anonymous No.7817379]

>>7816951
>$15 minimum wage passed
>stopped tipping altogether

[Anonymous No.7817401]

I'm a driver for jimmy johns in a large city where I deliver downtown. 20% is rare as all hell. The majority of our customers tip 10%. mostly less.

Black women never tip.

[Anonymous No.7817406]

>>7817379
it would be justified to not tip if that happened. that's probably how tipping culture will end, in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.7817453]

>>7817364
fucking kingslayer

[Anonymous No.7817528]

>>7817379
Minimum wage laws havent been applying to them before, why would they now?

[Anonymous No.7817565]

>>7817528
In most states servers in restaurants make between 1 and 3 dollars below their states minimum wage because they are expected to make tips. The entire reason why people tip is because people in those industries rarely make a livable salary, which is only true people the companies expect people to tip (and because corporate greed). 15$/hr means decent wage and therefor no point in tipping. Some people would probably still tip out of general kindness though.

[Anonymous No.7817584]

>>7817401

Do blacks not even tip other blacks?

[Anonymous No.7817587]

it's 10%. 15% is generous. fuck you you're not getting 20% unless i want to fuck you or I'm coming back next time.

[Anonymous No.7817600]

>>7817584

Nope. This is why blacks don't get ahead. Mexicans are slightly better tippers, but in this regard are similar. They will not help out their own.

This is what Jews do. If a rich Jewish family goes out to eat, and their waiter is Jewish, you can be sure that the man who is paying the check will drop a big tip.

[Anonymous No.7817604]

>>7817401

Do they really *never* tip? Do you ever say something? Fuck there's just no excuse.

When I was in college I used to tip the Jimmy John's man AND let him hit my bong if he wanted.

[Anonymous No.7817609]

>>7816951
According to who?

[Anonymous No.7817615]

>>7816951
Glad I don't go out to eat. Glad I love to cook.

[Anonymous No.7818904]

>>7817360

coffee shops are counter service, and every one of those wretched places has a tip jar.

[Anonymous No.7819061]

>>7817279
I think it's because like >>7817273 said, more people who would normally never get a shitty job are now having to and thus experience what it's like/pity them. I notice it in my sisters who did not give a fuck about tipping until they had to work jobs that involved tipping. Now they will tip well even if a server is inept and shitty.

>>7817565
Waiters at places with good turnover can make way, way higher than minimum wage, though. It's not unheard of for a waiter to make more than the cook/chef, which is ridiculous.

They should just get wages and tips should really be seen as a commendation of quality (though that will never be the case).

[Anonymous No.7819305]

>>7818904
That doesn't mean you're expected to tip at coffee shops you autist. They just want to get more free money from retards like you.

[Anonymous No.7819311]

>>7817290
woow i can't wait to get in on this hot underground action

[Anonymous No.7819605]

>>7816951
I haven't ate in a restaurant in almost a year.

[Anonymous No.7819623]

feels good to live in a not retarded country where tips are what they're supposed to be and the customer doesn't have to care about how much money waiters make

[Anonymous No.7819627]

>>7819623
*tips fedora*

[Anonymous No.7819636]

>>7817604
>Can do the job high
>Deserving of more than minimum wage

Pick one

[Anonymous No.7819637]

>>7817362
Volunteer doesn't mean wage, not non-profit.

[Anonymous No.7819652]

>>7819627
I don't speak meme language but I'll assume freedom doesn't allow you to use common sense

[Anonymous No.7819656]

>>7816954
I'm lazy like that which is why I tip 10%.

[Anonymous No.7819727]

itt: cheap assholes

I almost always tip 20%, only in extraordinary circumstances do I tip less. on most bills the difference between 15 and 20 is, what? 2 dollars, 3? it's hardly anything and I hardly notice the difference in my wallet. but more importantly, going out and eating is a joyful experience, and I'm not going to taint that joy with penny pinching.

[Anonymous No.7819748]

>>7816951
10%.

God asks for 10%, you don't get more than God.

>>7816962
So, Europe? This is pretty much how it works everywhere but America

[Anonymous No.7819761]

>>7817584
>>7817401
I work in a Hotel and one of my duties is driving our airport shuttle van, which frequently has me shuttling flight attendants whose airline has a contract with our hotel. Traditionally, they give you a dollar tip at the end. In fact, the airline PAYS THEM A STIPEND in order to pay this tip, so they receive money earmarked for this.

Black Women never tip. Ever.

[Anonymous No.7819799]

>>7817018
this desu senpai

[Anonymous No.7819812]

>people still actually feel the need to use some arbitrary rule for tipping
Just toss the server/delivery person a fiver and be done with it. If it's a large bill make it a 10 or a 20 dollar tip. There's no god damn need to be so obsessed with "tipping rules" and end up in a situation where you're thinking
>uhhh oh ggggod I'm 62 cents short of my 13.75 tip aaaaaaahhhh jeeezzz
Tipping is dumb enough as it is, but you retards are making it even dumber.

[Anonymous No.7819822]

>>7819812
I'll toss it on the floor and watch them debase themselves more. They're essentially beggars anyway. While they are prostated, I'll step on their backs to remind them their fate and place in society. Truly, it is good being higher up the social ladder

[Anonymous No.7819865]

>>7819822

Goddamn i wish you get hit by a trailer and that the medical bill wont be covered.

[Anonymous No.7819867]

I usually don't tip because I don't believe in the concept.

Fuck waiters.

[Anonymous No.7819891]

>>7819748
>god asks for...

yes it is god asking for that money.

[Anonymous No.7819896]

>>7817290
This

[Anonymous No.7819901]

>>7816951
I will never, ever go above 15.

[Anonymous No.7819917]

>>7817090
>So assholes who don't tip

I think you'll find the real assholes are those who 1) think tipping is mandatory irrespective of your level of service and 2) your shitty government for not fixing the damn economic problem in the first place and with no interest in doing so

[Anonymous No.7819920]

>>7817100

The same could probably be said right back at you.

[Anonymous No.7819921]

>>7819917
I think you'll find you're on the spectrum

[Anonymous No.7819926]

>>7819920
not tipping is pretty douchy.

[Anonymous No.7819935]

>>7819921
>>7819926

So aggressive ;P

Enjoy your no tips in the future ;P

[Anonymous No.7819971]

I usually tip 15% as a base, 20% if it's a place I eat at a lot and/or get great service (the two usually go hand in hand). Very rare I don't tip (I tip regardless of food quality cause waiter has nothing to do with that shit, hell even if the waiter fucks up I usually don't care as long as it gets sorted out.. ).

Yes usual bitching about tips and the way the whole system works, but it is what it is.

[Anonymous No.7819997]

>>7819935
i'm not a waiter. I always tip $20 or 20%, whichever is higher. i'll always do this.

[Anonymous No.7820015]

Why tip ever? The servers are getting payed anyway. By gaming the system I get other people to subsidies cheaper food.

[Anonymous No.7820016]

>>7819997
You should used that money to buy some grammar books.

[Anonymous No.7820020]

>>7820016
haha ok.

[Anonymous No.7820028]

>>7819997
i bet you also tip your fedora in your way out

[Anonymous No.7820043]

Im planning a trip to the USA, I've got 10k USD to spend, should I spare 2k+ for tips? I heard you even tip people walking on the street there.

[Anonymous No.7820051]

>>7820028
>classic fedora response
the fedora people are the ones who dont tip and bitch about it "not making sense"

[Anonymous No.7820062]

Here's a tip you self entitled, unskilled laborer, waiting ISNT A CAREER. You SHOULD hate waiting because its a shit job you do when you have no other skills.

[Anonymous No.7820071]

>>7816951
/ck/ Reservoir Dogs tipping scene re-enactment #3466643

[Anonymous No.7820075]

>>7820062


Lived in japan while studying abroad...

Most of their mid-small restaurants all use pay machines.

Super convinent, super fast, no hassle and GREAT food. Fits well with the busy Japanese lifestyle.

Don't see why mass adoption wouldn't happen here in the US.

You only really need waiters at fu fu 8 course tasting meals or decent stakehouses where you're PAYING to get your ASS KISSED...

I'll pay for a shoeshine boy to kiss my ass which is what waiters should be. Not for some self entitled snooty fagoot who thinks they "deserve" a 20% tip

[Anonymous No.7820112]

>>7817018
underrated.

Following this I sometimes give 50% tip, but sometimes do 10%.

The services performed dictate the tip, not the price of food.

[Anonymous No.7820118]

>>7820062
Yeah, I'm fucking loving this. No more retarded waiter fucking up my order 16 times. And especially with places having those rotating of changing menus now, the ordering machine is just so much better.

>>7820075
Seriously one of my favorite parts of Japan.

[Anonymous No.7820132]

>>7816951
I always tip $3, unless it's a really nice place.

[Anonymous No.7820134]

>>7819761
> company gives a stipend rather then more cheaply mass booking of transport

call me a jew but that is inefficient

[Anonymous No.7820146]

>>7820062
It's already starting to happen here. Due to unskilled laborers demanding $15 an hour (as implied by your image), they will soon be out of a job.

https://youtu.be/05u9c9u1S0s?t=1m35s

[Anonymous No.7820152]

>>7820051
dont worry i will protect your economic security m`lady.
Another day another maiden saved

[Anonymous No.7820168]

>>7820075

Japan is the land of efficiency.

Waiters are a completely unnecessary inefficiency in today's world if you think about it.

Waiters = tradition for the sake of tradition.

Or like the other guy said, waiters are good only if you want to pay to have your ass kissed and pampered when you pay for a $300 meal.

[Anonymous No.7820172]

>>7820168
I've heard that even Japanese minimum wage workers at fast food restaurants are good. How true it it?

[Anonymous No.7820177]

>go to Asian place on my way home all the time
>tip $2 everytime
>they don't know any better because 95% of people who go there are clueless Chinese millennials
>they love me and give me free snacks and drinks

[Anonymous No.7820199]

>>7820177
This is actually one of the reasons why I like Asian restaurants. If you go there long enough, they'll give you more or even free food even if you're not that big of a tipper just because you're pleasant and polite.

[Anonymous No.7820215]

>>7820146
The only issue with that sort of thing will be for the people just starting out in the job market- high school kids etc looking for their first job, say (ie the only kind of people who should be doing monkey-tier jobs like serving). They need to get experience somewhere and accumulate money to pay for school- it's already getting harder as more and more bottom tier jobs are automated/outsourced.

[Anonymous No.7820246]

>>7820215
Yeah, that's a pity. Too bad retards demanding "a living wage" didn't account for that. It's actually more difficult to get an entry level job nowadays because everybody is asking for 2 years of experience even for those shitty jobs.

[Anonymous No.7820250]

>>7816951
>10%.
>
>God asks for 10%, you don't get more than God.

Tell that to the Fed.

[Anonymous No.7820300]

>>7817401
>be waiter
>black people have been by far the nicest and most generous with tips
>treat me like family even though I'm white
I live in a nice area but even the hypebeast darkskin niggahs were very polite

[Anonymous No.7820326]

>>7817364
Jaime didn't make that post. Pedro did.

[Anonymous No.7820333]

Give me a reason why the price of a meal should dictate the tip a waiter gets for bringing a plate over.

$5 should be fine for almost any meal. More if they're extra nice.

[Anonymous No.7820340]

>every one now has a fucking tip jar, even at the farmer's market

what the hell is this.

[Anonymous No.7820341]

>>7820215

The prime problem is automation.

That said, almost every study done on the min wage shows that it's not primarily entry level people, and does not reduce hiring.

Not raising the min wage pretty much just goes straight to the employers bottom line - because hiring is primarily a function of demand, not just cost.

[Anonymous No.7820344]

>>7817264
European here tips are taxed?
How is that even supposed to work?

[Anonymous No.7820347]

>>7816951
I've never been tipped for doing my fucking job, why the fuck should I tip anyone else for the same?

[Anonymous No.7820356]

>>7820347
>I've never fucked a supermodel! Why should anyone else be allowed to fuck a super model!
>I've never been successful! Why should anyone else be allowed to be successful!

[Anonymous No.7820359]

>>7820356
t. strawmanius

[Anonymous No.7820364]

French here, I've been to america once and to be honest your waiters don't even let you eat in peace.
They were trying so hard to get a tip, they were constantly coming to bug us with some bogus question like "is everything ok?" (they asked us that 4 times in the meal, not counting when they were actually needed for picking up dishes and bringing the bill) and replacing our water broc everytime it was half empty.
You'd think if they are trying to get a tip, they'd try to be pleasant but they were invasive little cunts.
I left 5 bucks because the american friend that brought me there paid for the food and told me he really wanted to tip, but I'm glad I don't live here.

[Anonymous No.7820375]

>>7820364
You must understand Americans are so used to being pampered that instead of getting up and walking 10 steps to grab some sugar out of the big pile of sugar set up for them, they will instead angrily stare at the waiter until they're noticed, and asked the waiter to get the sugar for them instead

[Anonymous No.7820381]

>>7820375
You usually don't get up in france too but you call the waiter, the waiter doesn't come bother you every ten minutes.

[Anonymous No.7820389]

>>7820381
Always bugged me too. Waiters are basically experts at showing up just as you take a bite to ask how everything is. I'd rather it be common practice to flag down a waiter when you need something rather than have them interrupting my meal as it is in other countries (here it's almost seen as rude to flag down a waiter).

[Anonymous No.7820397]

>>7820389
well france has the good old "hey garçon!"
can't really think of a better way to get served

[Anonymous No.7820506]

>>7820397

French waiters understand its their JOB to serve their guests.

American waiters seem to think its a privilege for customers to come & eat at their shitty shack. No wonder they think they're entitled to high wages.

[Anonymous No.7820535]

>>7819748

[Anonymous No.7820536]

>>7820506
>The french being used as an example of work ethic
Whelp.. we're fucked.

[Anonymous No.7820627]

Tipping is one of the reasons why I avoid going out to eat as much as possible

[Anonymous No.7821034]

I wish I could just tip the chef. They are the one's doing the real work. Hell just switch to counter style and have people come get their food when called.

[Anonymous No.7821132]

>>7816951
I tip to the nearest round number and add a dollar figure as appropriate.

So 12.95 is a 5 cent tip at a shitty place, and a 5.05$ tip if the waitress gives me a hand job when she tops off my coffee.

Why yes, I always pay by debit.

[Anonymous No.7821158]

Depends on where I go
If I'm at like a diner, I usually tip $5 where my bill will be around $10-$15
I normally tip 20% if it's good service.
If it's a high end restaurant. I usually tip $100 regardless

[Anonymous No.7821162]

>>7819748
God doesn't ask for 10%, The guy who tells you to believe in god asks for 10%

[Anonymous No.7821181]

>>7821034
>Hell just switch to counter style and have people come get their food when called

I wish my favorite Middle Eastern place would do this. I don't understand why they don't, I could easily get up and walk 2 feet to the counter to get my food and drink but they insist on having someone bring it to me. I'm pretty sure they aren't just servers and make a proper wage but I would still feel awkward not giving them a tip, it's annoying.

[Anonymous No.7821182]

>>7817401
I drove for Jimmy Johns for a summer in the the burbs. Given the small size of the standard order, I thought I got tipped pretty decently. My policy has always been at least 2 bucks for a delivery driver, then 10-15% above as I know first hand that larger deliveries aren't really that much more of a hassle than smaller ones. Of course, if it's a catering order that's different and you should tip the fuck out of them.

You're right though. Blacks are bad tippers.

[Anonymous No.7821188]

>>7817366
>I'm pretty sure paying out to the restaurant is illegal but paying out to other employees
It's called tip pooling, and yes, it's illegal.

[Anonymous No.7821194]

>>7820344
There's a section on the filing form for "other income" or something like that.
That's where you put cash income to be taxed.

[Anonymous No.7821216]

After seeing repeatedly how many waiters/waitresses feel they are ENTITLED to tips, especially at a certain amount, I stopped eating anywhere where one is obligated to tip anybody. I don't feel I'm missing out at all.

[Anonymous No.7821243]

>>7816960
so you tip $20 on a $20 meal?

[Anonymous No.7821265]

>>7816951
These threads always remind how far behind the US is at having standards of service. No wonder people in the service industry expect decent tips when they have to deal with graceless, ill-mannered assholes all day.

[Anonymous No.7821273]

>>7817379
You realize that the $15 minimum wage is a slow increase over the next 6 years, right? No, because you're stupid. You're just using that as an excuse to not tip, faggot.

[Anonymous No.7821279]

>>7819748
>believing that money benefits god in any way
>mfw

[Anonymous No.7821359]

>>7817366
>800 dollars they were making a night
This is why I don't tip

[Anonymous No.7821377]

>>7821243
yes.

[Anonymous No.7821409]

I saved $2K last year not tipping at all when I went out to restaurants.

I eat out a lot.

[Anonymous No.7821412]

I tip well. Always do. Even when I don't have a real server. First I didn't like doing it and wanted to keep my scrilla. Then I just kind of started liking it. Makes me feel good and you can tell other people appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.7821419]

>never tip at restaurants or when pizza is delivered
>people im with think im a gigantic asshole
Tipping in general doesn't bother me. What bothers me is when I don't do it and whoever is with me thinks I committed some atrocity like stomping a kitten to death. But they couldn't give two fucks if the employee gets their whole pay.
If you're really bothered by it, tell the managers of these places to pay their fucking people. Not my fault they have a shitty job.

[Anonymous No.7821420]

>>7817018
Tip big up front...bartendies seek you out, skip over other douches to refill you.

[Anonymous No.7821447]

I always just leave $2. You brought me a water and a plate, big fucking woop, I'm not paying you based on how expensive the food on the plate was when it takes the exact same effort to bring a cheeseburger as lobster.

The 3 to 5 minutes tops that it takes you to take an order and bring my shit means I'm paying you well above minimum wage for your time on top of what you make from employers, so piss off.

If you feel so entitled to charity go stand on the corner with a cardboard sign like the rest of the bums and I'll give you the same 2 bucks, and maybe you'll appreciate it then.

[Anonymous No.7821456]

>>7817401
I used to work with a black woman. She didn't know tipping was even a thing until it was brought up in a conversation. The Nigs don't teach it to their kids.

[Anonymous No.7821468]

>tfw tips aren't mandatory and are only a personal reward if you consider it appropriate
man, being an eurofag has some bad things but this feels good

[Anonymous No.7821470]

>>7817090
Bullshit, I worked as a waiter and every tip I got went straight into my pocket tax free as with the rest of the wait staff. Bus boys, cooks, greeters, etc. all made minimum wage or above, and we didn't so the tips were ours, or at least that's how it worked in California 12 years ago for every restaurant I worked in.

[Anonymous No.7821508]

>>7817401
Oh, hi, I'm a manager at a jimmy johns and I sometimes drive when we're being actively fucked in the ass.

>20% is rare as all hell. The majority of our customers tip 10%. mostly less.
>Black women never tip.

Both of these things are true, especially the negress part. It's like they don't know how to fucking tip, I don't understand.

But here's my issue. I'm really fucking sick of my drivers bitching about tips. They do it all the goddamn time, and it makes no sense. They take a like an $860 order, of a shitton of Party Poopers or Mini Jimmies or whatever that they didn't even lift a SINGLE FINGER to make, and get tipped like $80 for the three minute job of bussing someone else's hard work to a local business or whatever, and their first words back are "MOTHERFUCKERS DIDN'T EVEN PAY ME 10%, ASSHOLES". They then proceed to pocket all of the money themselves and give none to the other employess.

WHY.
Why the fuck should delivery be based on a percentage of the price of the order? Fuck, I'm making money off that same bullshit and I don't understand it.

[Anonymous No.7821515]

I used to date a waitress who worked at olive garden. Counting her minimum hourly wage plus tips she made over $50 an hour every friday/saturday night. She was pulling in almost a grand of untaxed cash ever week and she didnt even work 40 hours. A job that's relatively easy and has almost no requirements should not pay so much and we should never feel pressured to give money to some stupid bitch who has no other valuable skills.

Tipping is a scam. 3 bucks maximum

[Anonymous No.7821530]

>>7821515
Spoken like a true idiot who doesn't understand service industry economy.

[Anonymous No.7821532]

>>7816951
I usually tip 20%+.

I simply fucking hate dealing with people, I've worked in retail before and know how much mental willpower it takes to put up with people's shit. I figure my good tips should balance out some of the shit tips.

>>7821515
honestly I think if someone is willing to put up with people's shit enough to make that kind of money, I think they deserve to keep it.

[Anonymous No.7821533]

>>7821530
Nice argument.

[Anonymous No.7821538]

>>7821532
>honestly I think if someone is willing to put up with people's shit enough to make that kind of money, I think they deserve to keep it.

honestly I think if someone isn't willing to do their job for the agreed upon wage, they should go get a new fucking job

[Anonymous No.7821543]

>>7821538
agree to disagree, I would probably have the same attitude if I've never worked customer-facing jobs, but I have and that changes my perspective.

[Anonymous No.7821547]

>>7821515
>almost a grand every week
Wow what a high-falutin moneybags, she can probably afford a one-bedroom apartment! You should have slapped the monocle right off her face!

[Anonymous No.7821549]

>>7816960
wtf not starting at 50% then dropping down if they don't deliver

[Anonymous No.7821760]

>>7821515
>i'm jealous of other people: the post.

[Anonymous No.7822060]

>>7816954

This.

People act like math is fucking hard.

Here it is for lazy/dumb fucks

>bill comes out to 29.53

Ok, if you're lazy, round it up to $30

>10% of 30 is 3
>add half of that: 1.50

15% of $30 is $4.50

[Anonymous No.7822066]

>>7822060
here's how my lazy ass does it.
>bill comes out to 29.53
>put two 20s in the envelope folder thing
>walk out

the tip has to be more than 10 but less than 20.

[Anonymous No.7822177]

>>7820341
Demand curve economics - That's because the minimum wage is too high by definition. The equilibrium point is below minimum wage. Therefore employers will have an arbitrarily large amount of unskilled labor to draw from. When an employer says "we're hiring" and there are zero applicants, that's when the minimum wage is too low.

[Anonymous No.7822183]

>>7822177
oh, alright then.

[Anonymous No.7822184]

Bong here. 10% tips all the way.

[Anonymous No.7822188]

>>7820535
the one time I wrote in a 0% tip on a credit card, the asshole server re-wrote a 20% tip. i only pay cash now if dining at place i haven't been before.

[Anonymous No.7822199]

>>7822188
Just take a picture of your recipt, and if it happens again just dispute it with the credit card company. You will get a free meal and the server will get fired for fraud.

[Anonymous No.7822206]

>>7822188
that's theft. I hope you called the restaurant's manager.
that is the kind of shit that makes me debate making the evening news.

[Anonymous No.7822209]

>>7821273
so are you recommending a slow decrease in tipping percentage over 6 years?
> not tipping is hard, like quitting smoking. don't stop tipping cold turkey.

[Anonymous No.7822217]

>>7822209
you will never stop tipping because you dont want people to think youre pic related.

[Anonymous No.7822223]

>>7821412
> noticed when people appreciated free money.
can i borrow your car? i'd really appreciate it

[Anonymous No.7822229]

>>7821547
a grand a week with the majority of it untaxed is well above the national average income. why is my dumbass ex-gf making more than bookkeepers and teachers? because stupid people leave her $20 tips for doing her job even though her employer already pays her.

>>7821760
I made more than her and still do, that doesnt change anything. why does the cashier at mcdonalds make peanuts but a waitress at a decent restaraunt who probably gets way less flack from customers gets paid twice or even three times as much when they both have the same skillset and qualifications? because tipping is bogus

[Anonymous No.7822231]

>>7821447
i call bullshit, this guy never gave a bum $2 in his life (except to impress a date or something tangental).

> gave a panhandler $5 to play led zeppelin on guitar and he sucked

[Anonymous No.7822238]

>>7817094
its not illegal, its law. i was a busser and my tip share came out of the servers. its the only way i could make money

[Anonymous No.7822248]

>>7822238
you can't share tips with people not directly associated with customer service in the united states. it's against the law to pool tips from all the wait staff and share it with the kitchen staff.

[Anonymous No.7822250]

>>7822206
It is the most common form of theft I see on the news.

Still it has gotten me paranoid. I will take pictures on anything beyond a certain price if service is bad enough I don't tip.

[Anonymous No.7822254]

>>7822229
>I'm jealous: the second coming.

[Anonymous No.7822256]

>>7822250
>it is the most comon form of theft I see on the news.
not what I meant, but ok. i'm not sure youre really american.

[Anonymous No.7822257]

>>7822248
aye this is the case, because the minimal wage laws are setup with a very narrow definition about who is allowed to paid below standard minimal wage for "tips".

You think tips are bullshit now? You would see some real bullshit.

[max.faget. No.7822261]

>>7822257
I don't think tips are bullshit. I happen to like the tipping culture. I want to personally pay the person who is dealing with me for an hour or however long. I'm that guy that posted here about always tipping $20 or 20% whichever is more.

[Anonymous No.7822265]

>>7822256
In my local news at least you don't hear about shoplifting or anything like that unless something stupid happened like a baby was left.

I don't hear about the tipping thing often, but I do hear about it more then the other white collar crime stories.

[Anonymous No.7822276]

>>7822254
nice argument imbecile

[max.faget. No.7822281]

>>7822276
>I want people to argue with me about my jealousy that doesn't affect them: the post

[max.faget. No.7822287]

>>7822265
oh alright.

Hopefully that shit doesn't happen to me, or you might see headlines along the lines of "who is (insert my name)?" if youre american you know what i'm talking about.

just kidding, of course....

[Anonymous No.7822296]

>>7822261
I am fine with tipping, but I mean on the labor side you would see some real bullshit. If a company could, they would spread their tips to everyone so they could pay everyone less.

>You deliver the food here? We are including you in our "performance bonus package". You get paid in tips! Because without a good delivery we could not stay in business

[Anonymous No.7822299]

Stop tipping you fucking retards you are the ones sustaining it

[max.faget. No.7822306]

>>7822299
when you don't tip you aren't making any statement beyond "i'm a fucking faggot that doesn't even deserve the respect of servants"

[Anonymous No.7822315]

>>7822306
the statement im making when i dont tip is more like "get a real job"

[Anonymous No.7822323]

>>7822306
When I don't tip no one gives a shit because NO ONE TIPS IN THIS COUNTRY stop sustaining this dumb shit if a restaurant comes with all this service charge shit on top of the price of my food I just don't pay

[Anonymous No.7822328]

>>7822315
so you don't want waiters to exist?

[Anonymous No.7822334]

>>7822323
don't come to america. you'll get shot if you don't tip. trust me, i'm one of the guys with the gun.

[Anonymous No.7822345]

>>7822334
pssssh nothin personel kid
let the waitress be

[Anonymous No.7822353]

>>7822328
no i want waiters to accept their paycheck or refuse to do that job.

[Anonymous No.7822357]

>>7822353
their paycheck includes the tips they get paid by the customers.

[Anonymous No.7822360]

>>7822328
Good places already offer food pickup.
>>7822357
Which it shouldn't so I'm not responsible for it they still get federal minimum wage

[Anonymous No.7822364]

>>7822360
lol youre as bad as the sjws.

[Anonymous No.7822696]

>>7822328

If removing waiters allows me to get better food at a lower cost then yes.

[Anonymous No.7822753]

>>7816951
I waited tables for a couple of years, so it left me with an impression that I had to tip outrageously for several years. Now, everyone gets $6. Myself, my wife, and my daughter are easy patrons, but tipping $10-$12 is ridiculous. I don't care if the food was $25 or $60, they're getting a $6 tip.

[Anonymous No.7823049]

>>7820118
I worked fast food in high school It usually wasn't our fault that we fucked up your orders usually you were either a nigger, a redneck, or a mumbling autist and we couldn't hear you. Seriously people Learn how to talk and turn down your nigger music in the drive thru

[Anonymous No.7823057]

If waiters don't get paid minimum wage just fucking tip.. You're literally worse than a nigger if you don't

[Anonymous No.7823067]

>>7823057

https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/002.htm

>If an employee's tips combined with the employer's direct wages of at least $2.13 an hour do not equal the Federal minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference.

Literally every waiter makes minimum wage.

[Anonymous No.7823077]

>>7823067
Then don't fucking tip who cares.. It's been this way for a long time I'm not gonna stop tipping for exceptional service.

[Anonymous No.7823092]

>>7823067
not how it works
waiters have two choices
1-you claim your tips and then they get taxed...this means if you dont hit minimum wage your boss makes up the difference
2. you dont claim tips and insted claim a lower amount that puts you making minium wage on the books

servers take opion two becuase this means you keep all your tips and earn more over time but it means if you have a shit week of no tippers your screwed

[Anonymous No.7823133]

>>7820536
Food related shit is the only place where that makes sense

[Anonymous No.7823144]

>>7822229
Why do professional athletes make more than doctors?

[Anonymous No.7823178]

>>7822177
No the minimum wage is the minimum amount that you can get paid while working 40 hours a week and live (basically) comfortable. Thats why the minimum wage was created. Look it up.

[Anonymous No.7823186]

>>7822066
Lol you paid over 30% tip.

[Anonymous No.7823205]

>>7823092

So you're mad. Got it.