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Beer general thread.

Im sure some of you cu/ck/s got some beer for christmas that you would like to share. Pic related.

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>>7204234
Both lovely beers, hope you enjoy them OP.

Had this before my Christmas meal. Was a pretty nice brown ale. Had an unusual aftertaste, still pleasant tho.

>> No.7204253

picked up some Frostbite "black ipa" from foothills

I'm not optimistic

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>>7204234
I work in a brewery and our regulars bring us in different beers for Christmas, so there's always too many to count as far as seasonal beers. New Holland's Cabin Fever is a personal favorite.

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yee

>> No.7204482

>>7204234
Chimay is among the nectar of the gods, especially on tap.

>> No.7204518

>>7204234
was gifted 2x saison bernice and 1x cellarman as well as 2 stemmed glasses from sante adairius. my sister is the best.

>> No.7204520

>>7204250
nice. love this year's... was kinda disappointed with the barleywine though. have you tried it?

>> No.7204536

>>7204520

Only tried the original, but they guy who supplied picked up a bottle of the barleywine to age, as well as 2-3 other bottles he didn't wan't to share.

Not sure if I'd go through the trouble to procure it myself, but I understand the hype.

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>>7204458
Great stuff. Got some in my fridge right now.
I'm drinking pic related and about to start Fargo season one. 8.5/10 cozy

>> No.7204594

>>7204545
I do like me a saison. Stillwater's farmhouse is pretty good, too.

>> No.7204615

>>7204594
I actually almost bought a 4 pack of that, but decided on ommegang instead. I like bombers every now and then for some reason.

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r8 me senpai

>> No.7204923

czarny boss porter
it's has a lot of interesting notes and isn't too bold of a porter

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>>7204923

>> No.7205319

>>7204923
>>7204927
I only like my porters super malty

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Got 12 of these Scottish beauties.

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So good

>> No.7205604

Westmalle dubbel is my favourite beer for this time of year 2bh

>> No.7205620

>>7204724

I won't lie, I sell this at my work and it looks fucking HORRIBLE. I want to try it because I know it will be bad, but I can't bring myself to do it.

>> No.7205661

>>7204234
>>7204482

Someone else who appreciates Chimay? My local supermarket just got that in and its nice as fug.

>> No.7205664

>>7205620
For malt liquor it's not bad

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received a couple of these for Christmas.
it's got this mild sweet eucalyptus flavor. surprisingly good!

>> No.7205721

>>7205604
Tbqh, I couldnt disagree with this

>>7205661
Chimay isnt my favourite of the trappist beers, but its still an exceptional beer.

>> No.7206397
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What's a non-American beer that I can buy in bulk that doesn't taste like ass.

Only American beers I enjoy are PBR (cheap and not too bad) and Blue Moon (taste isn't absolutely terrible).

I like Coronas but I want to try something new.

>> No.7206431

>>7206397

Why non-American?

It sounds like you just need to try better beer.

>> No.7206437

>>7206431
I've tried Budweiser. I've tried Miller.

Hate the taste.

Never tried Coors.

I just want a good beer I can buy in 18-24 packs I can enjoy.

>> No.7206677

>>7206437
Get better beer in 6 packs. If you're looking to get drunk off something go buy liquor.

>> No.7206709

>>7206397
Harp Lager?

>> No.7207488

>>7204724
nigger/10

>> No.7208617

>>7206437
If you're in america just go to total wine or costco. They usually have Sierra Nevada or some locally made beer in 24 packs

>> No.7208639

>>7206709
>Irish lager
Cmon man

>> No.7208802

>>7205604
Most dubbels should be alright; La Trappe and Grimbergen are among my favorites. But stepping up to tripel and quadrupel is where its at, if you do ever find it get Straffe Hendrik Quadrupel. If you like the dubbel youll probably like it and its a fucking godsend.

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This shit's delicious.

>> No.7208834

>>7208824
I like the natural wood in your house. Exposed wood has always been a thing of mine.

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Finally tried this the other day and it was everything I expected. As good, if not better than rubaeus. Will buy again as soon as summer hits

>> No.7210022

>>7209989

Everyone always seems to splurge out over NG, particularly when I visited/drove through WI, and I never really understood why.

Yeah, they make a couple pretty solid beers, but it wasn't until I realized that they don't distribute out of state that it dawned on me. It's just a gimmick, right? They're popular enough that they could easily expand, but they keep it in state to make it seem local, exclusive, or otherwise special.

Last time I was in flyover the main reason people had to drive through WI was NG... I just wanted cheese curds and Limburger.

>> No.7210032

>>7204234
>chimay blue
my nigger

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Sam Adams

>> No.7210042

>>7204234
Both really great beers.

>> No.7210138

>>7210022
Moon Man and Fat Squirrel are good standbys and I've never had a specialty 4 pack or bomber from them that wasn't great. People cream their pants over spotted cow for some reason and I don't get it. Literally all their other beers are better.

>> No.7210488

Got a gift card for Total Wine for $50 from my father-in-law and some good 22s from my brother-in-law this Christmas (Saint Archer Mosaic IPA and Modern Times Monster's Park). Shit was cash.

>>7206397
Sierra Nevada/Stone/Ballast Point make mixed 16 packs, you're bound to like something from those.

>>7208824
Oh, that stuff is good!

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You all have shit taste, kill yourselves

>> No.7210675
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>2016 - 2 days
>Not drinking light beer

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best beer coming through

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Coors light master race!

>> No.7210690

>>7209989
Did you try their cherry one too? I'd say its even better

>> No.7210701

>>7210656
I'd tell you to kill yourself but you're already slowly doing it by drinking that garbage

Stella is legitimately one of the absolute worst beers I think I will have the unfortune of drinking

It tastes like soggy weed and ass

I just pity you. Your tastebuds must be pure ash at this point

>> No.7210710

>>7210022
>until I realized that they don't distribute out of state that it dawned on me. It's just a gimmick, right?
Not really, they have just become incredibly popular in the state and do not have the capacity to worry about other markets (and do not project to any time soon), they are taking on Bud Light and even Miller Light with Spotted Cow and increasingly winning. It has been outselling Bud Light in Wisconsin for a few years now (which as far as I am aware no craft beer does in any other state yet)
Now, Spotted Cow isn't anything special, but it can appeal to people who have never really drank good beer before, hell my mom and grandparents order it at restaurants in place of the light beer they used to buy.
New Glarus doesn't really do many IPAs (though their DIPA they have had in 4 packs this year is excellent) and I don't recall them doing any imperial stouts so they won't get a ton of hype from the typical craft beer crowd, but pretty much every beer they make is a top example of the style, and most of their special 4 pack releases are can't miss

>> No.7210712

>>7210656
It's a gilded Budweiser.

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Just opened this up. Its amazing

>> No.7210737

>>7210710

Damn, NG hired one hell of a PR person.

>> No.7210747

>>7204724
>>7210656


Literally the only people here without shit taste.

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>>7210737
i went to the brewery for this one in the summer, it was worth the drive

>> No.7210762

>>7210747
*with shit taste

>> No.7210795

>>7210762
**without

>> No.7210798

Drinking Lagunitas Sucks Brown Shugga Substitute right now.
It's pretty good. More in the mood for a sour but don't have any on hand at the moment.

>> No.7210799

>>7210795
So you are seriously advocating drinking bad beer in place of the countless good beers that have been posted here?

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>>7210799
I advocate good beer if thats what you are asking

>> No.7210932

>>7210751
This inspired me to open up one of my remaining bottles of this. I think it might be my favorite wild fermented beer yet

>> No.7211044

http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2015/12/sitting-down-with-levi-funk-of-funk-factory-geuzer.html
So are there still people that think this guy should not be allowed to make lambic simply because he is american?

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Drinking this now. Confirming citra hops are the best

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>>7210690
Not yet! I'll pick some up next time I'm in Hudson though.
Drinking this stuff tonight. Not as gingery as I recall the last couple of years being but still a good holiday ale!

>> No.7211305

Do any of you guys find it harder to get drunk depending on how much caffeine you've had before drinking?

>> No.7211306

>>7204724
>>7210679
They're a cheap, fast way to get drunk. That's all I have to say.

Also, Spiked Punch Steel Reserve is a fucking abomination

>> No.7211307

I drink like a homo. Recommend some sweet ales.

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>>7211204
>citra hops are the worst

>> No.7211341

>>7211333
Citra and similar style IPA is so much better than west coast style IPA

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>>7211341

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Haven't tried it yet, am excited

>> No.7211669

>>7211668
jesus christ americans

>> No.7211674

>>7204234

My dad got me some Rochefort 10, which is funny because me and him both got absolutely rekt on the stuff when he took me to a fancy bar a few years ago.

>> No.7211913

>>7211204
citra hops are not the best. pseudosue is however very good. getting some king sue in the mail this week

>> No.7211916

>>7210720
also getting one of these. really excited. objectively the best brewery

>> No.7211963

>>7211669
You don't think there's a market for novelty beer?

Well there isn't much of one, but rogue brewery still manages to make enough money to survive with two overpriced mediocre tasting beer.

Unclench your anus and have a laff in the beer aisle.

>> No.7211970

>>7211913
Citra is tasty, but mosaic hops is my jam right now. I miss the summer ipas already.

>> No.7211974

>>7211970
Mosaic confirmed for best finishing hop.

>> No.7211984

>>7211970
>>7211974

simcoe master race reporting in
hill 2 row 56 ftw

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Got a six pack of Bell's Porter in the fridge right now, it's pretty good. Pic related is what I'm craving right now, I didn't "get" it the first couple of times I tried it but now it's one of my favorite beers. (Pour gently!)

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>>7204234
I'm from Georgia and I still don't understand the appeal of this shit. It's fucking disgusting.

>> No.7212883

dragons milk stout

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I feel like talking about all the beers I tried for the first time over Christmas weekend with my family. I'm'a do that after I read this thread.

But I'll start with this, because it was awesome.

Doesn't necessarily scratch the beer itch, because it's almost more like cider. Very crisp, very dry, and the cherry flavor is very present, but not like candy. It somehow manages to be fruity without being particularly sweet. It is sour, which is not a complaint. No unpleasant aftertaste at all, either.

Real, real good. Just a notch below the best beers I've ever had from a bottle, though kind of in its own category because, again, it doesn't quite feel like a beer.

>> No.7213344

>>7204234
I see Trappistes a lot, but haven't had it.

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It's been a wine week since my family is not a bunch of filthy neckbeards who drinks "craft beer" at christmas dinner, but I just got back home and I'm drinking this. Honestly after sitting in airports and on the tarmac all day I'll settle for almost anything.

>> No.7213366

>>7213355
>my family is not a bunch of filthy neckbeards who drinks "craft beer" at christmas dinner
A you the only millennial in your family or something?
Is my family strange in that it had an assortment of craft beer, macro beer, wine and liquor?

Craft beer for the people under 40, macro beer for the old men, wine for the old women and liquor for the alcoholics

>> No.7213373

>>7205602
They've had this on tap at Epcot for Food & Wine in the past, and it's wonderful.

>> No.7213375

>>7213366
I don't know what "millennial" means or why 4chan thinks everyone is one of them. I don't have a blog on the tumbler either.

Also I didn't say nobody in my family ever drinks beer, as you can see I'm drinking beer right now. It's just not something you have with a nice meal. Too filling, clashes with everything, and just a weird thing to do all around. Like pouring coffee with the main course.

>> No.7213378

>>7206397
So, is this because you haven't expanded your beer tastes, is it because you have really weird tastes (that's fine, you can have that), or are you trolling?

>> No.7213384

>>7208824
God yes. If you can ever find it actually on tap, you need to go there immediately. Yeah, it's good from the bottle, and they're surprisingly close to getting the nitro feel right in a bottle, but it's still just not quite the same.

Got a video game bar that has it on tap typically like five minutes down the road from my apartment. Standing at an old school arcade cabinet surrounded by attractive girls in cosplay while drinking this off tap is a god tier experience.

>> No.7213387

>>7213375
>I don't know what "millennial" means
Its people born between 1980-2000 (which is almost everyone on 4chan, hence the assumptions)
> It's just not something you have with a nice meal.
This is a ridiculously backwards and outdated opinion, coming from a time when good beer was tough to find

>> No.7213390

>>7213375
Yeah, nothing goes with brisket, enchiladas, and chili like a nice glass of cab sav.

>> No.7213396

>>7213375
My family just buys a bunch of alcohol and lets people decide for themselves what they want to drink rather than tell everyone what they are "supposed to drink"

>> No.7213401

>>7213375
I eat less or have a salad when I get beer with my food. Only exceptions are specialty places with high quality drafts and unique food that I can pick at then take home.

Still chubby though. Probably the high alcohol tolerance from too much beer to be honest.

>> No.7213408

>>7213387
Well, I guess I'd be Gen X, but I have plenty of "millennial" cousins who drink wine (and beer, and just about everything containing ethanol, since we're a bunch of borderline alkies especially around this time of year).

I guess maybe being well traveled and having access to a variety of beverages, my family doesn't feel the need to prove that "at least we're not the south and craft beer has finally made it". We just want a good meal, and who wants a gut full of CO2 interfering with a good meal?

>> No.7213413

>>7213408
You just implied that only neckbeard families drink good beer, then you go and say you have a super classy totally not southern family

You seem to be contradicting yourself quite a bit
I regularly drink beer with meals, I often drink other stuff with meals too, never really had a problem with too much carbonation, maybe you just have some strange digestive system issues.

>> No.7213432

>>7213413
No, I said only neckbeards drink beer with a christmas dinner. Apparently you missed the part where nearly everyone in my family drinks beer, and the post where I'm drinking beer, right now, as I post.

>then you go and say you have a super classy totally not southern family

But you're the one who is going off on the "it's 2015 we classy now we have the craft beer and at least we're not the south". Why are you so insecure? There is nothing wrong with beer. I like beer. I'm drinking beer. I don't know how many times I have to repeat this. It's just a weird thing to have with a family christmas meal, for reasons that should be obvious to anyone who loves food and drink.

>> No.7213438

>>7213408
Where are you from that craft beer has just finally made it? Across the Northwest, Upper Midwest, and New England its been mainstream as fuck for a long time now. The Southern reaches of the\e northeast and the south are still a bit behind, but I refuse to believe that your city is so fucking backwards that you consider non-macro beer to be the realm of neckbeards and not fit for meals, you are probably just making shit up. But seeing as you are of a more elderly generation, I can't blame you. You grew up in a time when such outdated views were commonplace and the only decision you had to make was Miller Light or Bud Light, my dad grew up in the same generation and he has probably only been drink craft beer for about 4 or 5 years now

>> No.7213446

>>7213438
>Where are you from that craft beer has just finally made it?
It's called sarcasm, apparently you are too inbred to pick up on it. But good job becoming the butt of the joke (hint: the joke was that you are from one of those places).

>> No.7213447

>>7213432
>But you're the one who is going off on the "it's 2015 we classy now we have the craft beer and at least we're not the south"
How did you take any of this from my statement?

I didn't mention the south at all, I didn't even mention anything about regions, and I surely didn't imply that having a wide selection of different types of alcohol was a recent development. So I really do not understand what you are trying to do...

>> No.7213453

>>7213447
Sure you do. I'm saving you from posting your map folder. But if you would like to, please proceed.

>> No.7213457

>>7213453
Why are you trying to turn this into a region thing?
You single-handedly conjured this topic, and then whine as though it was a discussion others were having

>> No.7213466

>>7213457
Op mentioned getting beer for christmas. I posted beer I'm drinking, because this is beer general, and tied it to christmas with my comment. Some guy (perhaps you) got butt flustered and said something like "it's 2015 all beverages that are not IPA are now outdated". I explained why this is wrong and dumb, and now you're having a little temper tantrum over it.

If you have a problem with people with differing opinions than you, perhaps you'd be better off on a forum that requires registration and caters to a specific subculture. Here, people are free to have a point of view on a topic, even if it doesn't align perfectly with yours.

>> No.7213467

>>7213446
>I was just pretending to be retarded, I swear

>> No.7213470

>>7213390
I don't like Boston Lager much, but I paired it with blackened cajun tuna the other day and it was incredible. Made both things a whole tier better.

>> No.7213471

>>7213466
ok, thats exactly what happened

Why are you even here if you have such disdain for us millennial craft beer drinkers?

>> No.7213472

>>7213467
Actually, you may be legitimately retarded.

>> No.7213473

>>7213471
There you go getting butt blasted again.

Did you forget that I'm drinking beer right now?

You'd think this was a dank weed thread with all the short term memory loss and paranoia flying around.

>> No.7213475

>>7213466
You got hooked so hard on that ipa bait. /ck/ is bait central for some reason that I truly don't understand.

Ipas are fine, other styles of beer are fine, the only people who think otherwise are trying to get you to reply to them. They want to control your emotions for a tiny slice of power.

>> No.7213479

>>7213438
I live in Central Florida, and I can confirm that, despite the presence of Cigar City, craft beer is mostly the stuff of myth.

Having come from the Pacific Northwest, it's really quite something. Liquor stores are lacking, grocery stores are a joke, only niche bars have anything less macro than Sam Adams Seasonal, and people look at you funny if you think there is beer outside of Bud Light.

>> No.7213487

>>7213473
You are trying way too hard

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I have a normal supply of this when its in season because im related to a distributor. I always keep a couple cases to drink throughout the year on special occasions

>> No.7213495

>>7213475
>Ipas are fine, other styles of beer are fine
But non-beer beverages are for elderly women and the gays.

Because it's 2015, and craft beer has finally "made it".

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This shit is so fucking good, but it's to normal beer what dessert is to dinner.

It's just so flavorful and the aromas are so wonderful. The decadence of it is the only downside, and that's no downside in controlled quantities.

>> No.7213506

>>7213495
Why are you even doing this?

>> No.7213514

>>7213506
Doing what? Thinking it's ok to drink things other than beer sometimes? I guess maybe it's because I like food and cooking, and when someone says something ignorant, I like to help them understand their mistake.

I understand some people treat this site as the place of "lulz" and "trolling", that sort of humor is uninteresting to me.

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>>7213504
Grabbed two local red ales, and had a similar experience from both of them. Generally too hoppy, with nothing else interesting about them.

This was at least drinkable. Not so floral as to be unpleasant, but Orlando Brewing's Right On Red! was almost undrinkable.

>> No.7213518

>>7213491
>KBS
Kinky butt sex.
I like it.

>> No.7213523

>>7210799
>stop liking what I dont like

>> No.7213528

>>7213514
You are the one who said beer shouldn't be consumed with food because of carbonation

Basically you make absurd or outdated statements, and than straight up make up assertions that no one previously said to attack

>> No.7213530

>>7213517

I had the cigar city red ale last night. I generally like most beers but it was just too unbalanced. The malt turned the extreme hoppiness into a nasty bitter and cloying at the same time syrup taste/sensation. Great brewery too, usually.

>> No.7213534

>>7211204
Just opened up another one of these

>> No.7213541

>>7213528
I never said that. But it doesn't surprise me that you eat the exact same food every single day. It's consistent with the fact that you drink the exact same drink every single day. You are from one of those places where "normal food" means microwave pizzas topped with ranch dressing and anyone who appreciates variety, let alone cooking meals from fresh high quality ingredients, is just an elitist prick, putting on airs to seem sophisticated.

>> No.7213545

>>7213541
please go back to whatever websites people of your advanced age typically troll. Try Myspace or something

>> No.7213547

>>7213545
No, I'm fine right here. Chew on your microwave pizza and think about your mistake now.

>> No.7213560
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>There are people who never tasted guinness with milk and sugar
>mfw

>> No.7213562
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What an amazing thread this turned out to be!!!

>> No.7213568

>>7213530
Yep. Good Gourd Nitro might be the best beer I've ever had, and Moduro is fucking great.

>> No.7213573
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Smuttynose Baltic Porter

This thing has a great reputation, and it's pretty good, but I like their Robust Porter way, way more.

This has a little bit of a soy flavor I wasn't a fan of.

>> No.7213577

>>7213560
Why not just by a nice milk stout?

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>>7213573
Duck Rabbit, meanwhile, makes an incredibly good Baltic Porter. Not a flavor in there I don't love, and there are a lot of them.

Definitely my favorite Duck Rabbit.

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>>7213577
wut is that

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Awwwwe yes. I'd never had this before but fell in love. Three Floyds has it going on. It's sad though, because here in bumfuck nowhere minnesota it's nothing but schells and grain belt.

>> No.7213596

>>7213586
A stout brewed with lactose added. Yeast cannot metabolize lactose so the final product remains sweeter than a typical stout

Left Hand's is probably the most common, though many breweries make them

>> No.7213600

>>7213595
Yum Yum is great, probably their best non-zombie dust beer

>> No.7213601

>>7213517
They sound good for my tastes. I'll give more red ales a try.

I have a brewery and coffee roaster near by that makes incredibly balanced beers. I mean most of their beers are so balanced that I crave stronger flavor by the end of the 6 pack. It's good stuff but I really prefer the more flavorful stuff done by Pipeworks and, when I can get it, Half Acre.

Anyone heard of Two Brothers? Like I said, really well balanced beer. They don't get stellar ratings on the big sites because of it.

>> No.7213602

>>7213586
Nectar of the gods.

>> No.7213606

>>7213601
I've had some Two Brothers, but I can't remember what.

>> No.7213611

>>7213601
>Anyone heard of Two Brothers
Their Cain and Abel is good. None of their stuff I have tried has been great, but its all been good.

>> No.7213613

>>7213601
>>7213606
Looking it up, I think it was Atom Smasher. It was obviously not memorable, either way.

>> No.7213614

Is it weird to have a couple beers by yourself? I've been having a beer or two most nights for the past month or so to start developing a palette for them, and because I enjoy the taste. I don't drink to get drunk or anything

>> No.7213615

>>7213595
I've gotten sick of em really. Living in Chicago I've got a constant supply of them. Even zombie dust is easy to come by since two local distributors always save me a pack or two each. Only one I still really like is Gumballhead. Got the cardboard pack as a decoration in my apartment.

Even dark lord ain't that great. I like surly darkness better. One of my local guys still has some even.

Anyone had off color breweries DinoSmoars? I'm in love with it. It's so damn tasty, even if it's expensive. Even got a few stein when I bought it and darkness in the same order. Great day to love beer.

>> No.7213616

>>7213614

I'm kind of wondering the same thing. Seems like I drink at least one beer a night now.

>> No.7213618

>>7213614
How would that possibly be weird?

>> No.7213621

>>7213606
Exactly. Non offensive, so balanced you won't even remember it really. That's two brothers.

>> No.7213628

>>7213614
no

>> No.7213634

>>7213615
Zombie Dust is amazing, but PseudoSue and Bedlam are better Citra based IPAs from the region

and Three Floyds pricing is ridiculously high, that must be what it feels like to be into good beer in California

>> No.7213894

>>7206397
>I like Coronas

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Peppermint was a bit much. Would rather have a regular VAS but still an enjoyable brew

>> No.7214245

>>7213611
Sidekick is solid and easy drinking

>> No.7214253

>>7213634
Try being into good beer in Pennsylvania

>> No.7214554

>>7213164
I just had their barrel aged scotch ale. 10/10 brewery.

>> No.7214567

>>7213595
Schell's is GOAT. Also where in minnesota? Even the shitty liquor store in Lutsen had local craft beer

>> No.7215234

>>7211305
>>7211305
Please help

>> No.7215261

>>7215234
no

>> No.7215264

>>7214554
Yeah, Central Waters barrel aged 4 packs are all excellent

>> No.7215562

>>7213344
Thats fine, as long as youre happy to miss out on the finest beer known to man.

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Just about to drink one of these

>> No.7216515

>>7212804
They make a chocolate peanut butter stout that I knew would be terrible but bought it anyways.

I was right and it was one of the nastiest things I've ever drank.

>> No.7216519

>>7216515
>Chocolate peanut butter stout

Jesus christ America. Please stop.

>> No.7216521

>>7216519
We have like 4000 breweries making 10-25 beers a year, it would be disappointing if they all made only the same things

>> No.7216529

>>7216521

Just like its disappointing they dont make strawberry jam scotch or cream cheese wine?

>> No.7216535

>>7216529
I've never tried a PB beer, but it sounds like it could work decently well in a porter or stout

>> No.7216613

>>7216535
Doesnt seem like it will take the American craft brewers long to destroy what they have built.

Many Americans now claim that America produces 'the best beer in the world'. And thats fine by me if they want to claim it. I cant really argue against it since I havent tasted that much, and because the craft scene does seem to be really big. The best beer I have ever tried has been Belgian, but whatever.

But now the craft scene has started to take off, it looks like the rush is on to produce craft beer that will appeal to all sectors of the American population. And apparently the way to do that is turn what was beer in to a body for other flavours. Just remove any flavour of beer completely, and make it taste like the favourite candy bar.

Its similar to what has happened to cider in the UK. Arguably the best ciders in the world are produced in Britain. But the cider producers clocked on to the demise of alcopops and filled that void. They now produce what is essentially an alcopop that is twice the size of alcopops that used to be popular, but the same price. Now the shelves are flooded with strawberry and kiwi or raspberry and lime or some other fruit combination 'cider'.

>> No.7216628

>>7216613
I don't think that Americans make the best beer in the world. I honestly think that there are far too many breweries in the world to definitively pick one of their brews and say that it's the best.

I'd say that some of the best beers made in the US are on par with the best beers from any other country.

>> No.7216653

>>7216613
>Many Americans now claim that America produces 'the best beer in the world'.
It undoubtedly does

A lot of american brewers make belgian style beer just as well as they do in Belgium, from lambics to trappist styles.
> And apparently the way to do that is turn what was beer in to a body for other flavours
I don't think this is a realistic characterization at all. If you try hard you can surely find some weird stuff like that but they make up a tiny percent of the craft beer market. Most of the market is made up of pale ales and stouts/porters. Most of the large craft breweries' best selling beers are really basic basic but quality beers designed to get people who still drink light beer to switch over such as Fat Tire, Sierra Nevada PA, and Boston Lager, and most of the next tier is IPAs and stouts and increasingly sours. The stuff you are talking about is i small niche

>> No.7216662

>>7216628
I would say that the vast majority of the best beers in the world are made in america. There is nowhere else that such a large variety of excellent styles of beer are so readily available

>> No.7216668

>>7214567
Went to school in new ulm. Don't get me wrong, schells is awesome, i even knew one of their brew masters and got cases of seasonals for free. But it was the only beer I drank for 5 years. Classic case of too much of a good thing.
Their hefeweizen is absolutely supreme in every way and I will never get sick of that.

>> No.7216718

>>7216653
>It undoubtedly does

I dont think it can be said its undoubted. A lot of American beer simply isnt available outside of America. It seems like a lot of it isnt even available across different states. So non-Americans arent able to make a comparison with American beers. Its a generalisation I know, but Americans are also notoriously bad when it comes to knowledge of anywhere else in the world that isnt America. It doesnt surprise me that they are 100% convinced they are the world leading experts in beer production.

Im sure America does produce some excellent beer. There are a huge number of brewers doing their thing. Does it produce better beer than Belgian Trappists? Not that I have seen.

>> No.7216746

>>7216718
>So non-Americans arent able to make a comparison with American beers
Sure most of them cannot, but a certain percentage of both groups are able and the overwhelming consensus is america makes most of the best beer.

I was in europe only a few months ago, and I went out of my way to try as many local beers as I could. There was some good stuff, but it certainly was tougher to find than in america. A huge percentage of bars only had mediocre macros on tap, while almost all bars I encounter in america have at least a small handful of good tier bers on tap.

I think the main problem is that the macros in europe are not as shitty as the ones in america. A huge motivation behind the advent of good beer in america was how bad the beer was previously, the availability of adequate beer in europe removed this pressure and now it is trying to catch up

>> No.7216772

>>7216746
I'm american and I find that although almost all bars have a lot of so-called "craft beers", only a handful of bars have excellent beers.

Remember kids: a lot of hops or random "experimental" infusions isn't a substitute for good taste. It's always just some half-assed unbalanced tasting IPA, some wheat/berry garbage for people who legitimately believe they are too good for blue moon, maybe a "toasted pils" shitbeer (apparently they can't afford ingredients to make a normal pilsner), a fake-ass stout that basically tastes like a brown ale so why fucking call it a stout, but to add insult to injury maybe they added nescafe or droste cocoa powder or some shit, some "nitro" namby-pamby cream beer that I didn't ask for, and maybe a poor imitation of a real tripel or a saison or some such thing (even actual belgians fuck up belgian beer 90% of the time so why do non-belgians even bother, just fuck off with your counterfeit shitbeer).

Same goes for the stupid names. Just give me something that tastes like beer, label it with an identifiable and for the love of god, ACCURATE stylistic descriptor, and name it after a nearby geological formation, historical figure, or urban agglomeration if you want to get creative. Lastly, there is no need to ruin a perfectly good style of beer that someone else came up with. Either do it right, or don't call it beer. This is why the germans invented rheinheitsgebot, we would do well to come up with something similar for the protection of consumers.

Thanks in advance,

Your humorless parents

p.s. you think I'm joking but I'm not

>> No.7216775

>>7216746
>the main problem is that the macros in europe are not as shitty

Yeah I'd agree. This is the reason why certainly in the UK, we are quite far behind with craft beer.

In the UK, a few years ago the hipster thing to do was to drink cask ale/real ale or whatever name you might give it. It's quite different to craft beer in that its not very strong 3.5%-5%. But thats more to do with traditional drinking habits I guess. People like to go to the pub and spend all night drinking pint after pint, and still be able to remain respectable and get up the next day for work.

Its certainly not bad beer to drink. Id say quality wise its somewhere between macro and craft. Most breweries supply to the local area without distributing across the whole country, and most of them produce monthly or seasonal specials. There is much more variety than standard macros. Most pubs will offer 3/4 of these.

I think the trend is moving on to craft though, but its just so damn expensive right now. Real ale is cheaper than macro lager in most pubs (although lager is cheaper to buy in supermarkets), but craft is more expensive that lager. A lot of city center bars and pubs are now starting to stock bottled craft beer, whether it be American, British or continental Europe. There are some decent English brewers starting to pop up, but still not an awful lot.

>> No.7216781

>>7216772
>almost all bars have a lot of so-called "craft beers", only a handful of bars have excellent beers.
Its still much better than what is typical in europe. Half the time fucking Guinness is the best beer they have on tap (but its definitely improving in London and a little in Ireland at least)

>> No.7216786

>>7216772
>Remember kids: a lot of hops or random "experimental" infusions isn't a substitute for good taste
Show me some euro beer better than this shit
>>7211204

>> No.7216796

>>7216781
Honestly I'd rather drink HB munchner sommer than some guy's shitty "experiment".

>> No.7216799

>>7216786
I've never even seen that in a store, so whatever point you're trying to make is irrelevant. Not everyone on 4chan lives in Iowa.

>> No.7216803

>>7215562
I'm not.

>> No.7216808

>>7216515
People always rave about that shit, but peanut butter beer sounds awful.

>> No.7216809

>>7216799
I don't live in Iowa either and I bought it at my chain super market. Sure a lot of beers are only sold in certain markets, but every market has great beer readily available (maybe not so much the south, I haven't been there in quite a while so I can't speak to this)

Even beer that is mediocre amongst craft brewers in america is much better than what is readily available in europe typically

>> No.7216825

>>7216746
>I think the main problem is that the macros in europe are not as shitty as the ones in america
This has become my experience, as well. Craft beer in the US generally gives me deeper and better options than Europe; which is not to say that the best of both continents aren't pretty much on the same tier, mind you.

But god, European mainstream beer is actually drinkable.

>> No.7216834

>>7216809
Oh, hi there at least we're not the south guy.

>> No.7216838

>>7216772
>hating on nitro

Stop, immediately.

>> No.7216840

>>7216825
>which is not to say that the best of both continents aren't pretty much on the same tier, mind you.
Id say that besides a small number of Trappists and a few belgian sours, almost all of the worlds best beers are america right now, but Europe is starting to get better, I would be surprised to see a handful of elite breweries turn up there in the next few years, especially in england

>> No.7216852

>>7216834
I'm just saying I don't know about the south so im not gonna comment on them. Last time I was in Florida it was pretty fucking shitty, but I haven't really spent time in the rest of the south so who knows
It seems like calling you 'at least I am not the south' guy would make more sense as you bring that phrase up in almost all beer threads at some point for no apparent reason

>> No.7216854

>>7216838
Nitro is shit though, who the fuck decided to suck all the CO2 out of beer and put in a flavorless gas just for "texture"? Nitrogen is not a byproduct of fermentation and whoever came up with that idea needs to be shot.

Honestly, if you don't like beer, just make yourself a cocktail, it's not hard and you have a lot of options. Cocktails are good too, I've got nothing against cocktails.

>> No.7216863

>>7216852
Literally all of the south is shitty, yes, Texas, that includes you.

The point is, you're from the upper midwest and at least you're not the south. Yes, I get it. You're not the absolute worst thing in America. Congratulations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAwhC_btAUU

>> No.7216865

>>7216854
Nitro is just another tool like anything else, who gives a fuck how natural something is

>> No.7216867

>>7216840
I just really, really enjoy German stouts and wheat bears.

>> No.7216868

>>7216863
um, ok

>> No.7216870

>>7216867
German Stouts? like what?

>> No.7216873

>>7216852
I live in Florida, and the beer scene is pretty fucking shitty. The breweries themselves are great. Some of the best beer I've ever had came from Funky Buddha and Cigar City. But the availability of good beer is awful.

>> No.7216878

>>7216854
Someone amazing decided that, that's who.

>> No.7216931

>>7216854
They don't, "suck all the CO2," out. They use nitrogen instead of CO2 for the tap pressure. There is still CO2 in the beer. The CO2 used for dispensing beer isn't a natural biproduct, either. Beer doesn't just pressure itself out of the keg without some help.

And texture is important in all food and beverage.

>> No.7217160

>>7216464
I posted last night abot this one. Howd you like it?

>> No.7217166
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>>7217160
I thought it was pretty good. Only the second mint beer I had ever tried. Definitely do not regret picking it up

Drinking another coffee stout now

>> No.7217370

>>7216519
To give some credit, Belching Beaver's Peanut Butter milk stout is actually really good and a majority of the time chocolate/coffee stouts compliment the beer flavor more than they replace the flavor. SN Coffee Stout is a good example of that.

>> No.7217456

>>7216613
It's funny how many partake in this insanely stupid and clueless debate about 'best beer country in the world' when they haven't even sampled beers from that county. At least if you live in a country with some decent import of beers you can talk. Like the Swedes and their Systembolaget with a selection of thousands of beer from all countries.
I've haven't had a shitload of beers from America either but IMO they are most likely, based on what I've experienced, the best beer country in the world. Sierra Nevada and Flying Dog are almost enough for me to form that opinion, although I've had others as well.
At least I'm basing my opinion on something rather than just stupid preconceptions from the fucking 70's about watery budweiser

>> No.7217735

>>7217166
If Mankato Brewing distributes in your area, try finding their mint stout. The mint is a lot more subtle than most others which makes me actually enjoy it. I think it's like 9.99 for a 4 pack or something

>> No.7217738

>>7216867
I prefer the grizzly

>> No.7217915
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New years eve starts! First one out is a nice lager, very well balanced an well made!

>> No.7217919

>>7217915
looks like the spray nozzle is in the beer in the thumbnail

>> No.7217921

>>7216613
The thing that makes america stand out right now is variation. https://youtu.be/0zc4p9Uwa_s

>in italy you eat italian food, in america you eat whatever kind of food you want.

I think this applies well to the beer scene in the US. Beligum only sells belgium beer and a small quantity of others which are imported, germany the same, etc. America produces every kind of beer, hell theyve started producing trappist recently with spencers. So i can see why people would say its the best based on that, but i fundamebtally disagree cause its just a whacky thing to say. I dont think there really is a "best".

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>>7217919
Would probably lead to some really excessive foaming!

Followed dinner up with a dessert beer! Not impressed with this one, Victory at sea did it way better in my opinion!

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Probably one of the best "standard" pales! Would like it to be slightly lower in abv though so i could down more of it than i feel comfortable with!

>> No.7218155

>>7217974
>>7218130
>canfag

>> No.7218167

>>7218155
Cans are certainly the better way to store beer, but I am pretty sure no one who is into drinking good beer makes their decision of which beer to buy based on whether it is in a can or bottle

>> No.7218183

>>7218167
Glass is inert, nigga.

>> No.7218194

>>7218167
>makes their decision of which beer to buy based on whether it is in a can or bottle
I do. Glass does not get leeched into the drink.

>> No.7218195

>>7218183
yeah, its also translucent

Fucking electromagnetic radiation dude

The difference between them is minimal so long as you use a darkly dyed bottle, but cans are a little better (and much better for shipping)

>> No.7218199

>>7218194
Do you live in the 1960s?

That is not an issue with modern cans and has not been an issue for quite some time. That was like the very first generation of beer cans

>> No.7218238

>>7218130
Agreed. Dales is the beer I compare pale ales too because of how good, but not great it is. The 6.5 abv is a little high for a pale ale though. Their Pinner is really damn good and only like 4.5 or something.

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>>7218238
Only had a couple cans of Pinner as it is not common here sadly. Good beer for drinking larger volumes!

This IPA had a homebrew feel about it, some distinct strange tones on the nose. Not bad just a bit different!

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Happy new year.

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Very good standard strength stout!

>> No.7218646

>>7218276
R A R E
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Getting over a cold so I haven't tasted it yet. Any thoughts?

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>>7218276

Holy fuck. I live in Dorchester. That brewery closed when I was just a kid.

We used to be able to smell the beer brewing during lunch breaks at school.

It's now just faggy apartments and overpriced restaurants there now.

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>>7218484
I love me some oatmeal stout

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Wish i could have another bottle of this tonight but no just sharing the best beer i had 2015, Omnipollo Barrel aged Agamemnon!

>> No.7219059

>>7218731
Sharing with who? I thought you were usually alone

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7219263

Drinking one of these

>> No.7219286

>>7204724
Only had it out of a 40. Honestly liked it, was cheaper than pbr and better tasting.

>> No.7219594

>>7218681
Beautiful beer. Wait until you recover and prepare to enjoy something excellent.

>> No.7219729

>>7211204
Drinking their New World Lager and it's good as hell. Probably my new go to.

>> No.7219745

>>7219729
Haven't tried that one yet, but they are a really excellent brewery. They make it seem so easy

>> No.7219759

>>7218687
It is pretty good Dorchester anon. The guy who trades it to me bought 2 cases in 92 and I can confirm it has been worth the wait.

>> No.7219766
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an old classic

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>>7219759
Drinking a Elysian bi-frost tonight...pretty good and clean.

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>>7219766
I miss the old label. Damn MI liquor law is insanity at times.

>> No.7219813

>>7219805
I heard about that. Government regulations are fucking ridiculous. I am glad they kept the original label in their other markets

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>>7219772
One down as a toast...the rest is for tomorrow. Think we are doing a vertical of the bells x,000 series and lots of bourbon county/kbs/Bigfoot from various years. Those killing crafts and a bunch of their twins are going to the Thomas hardys bro who is breaking out some fun stuff.
Saturday is going to suck.

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>>7219813
I'll still take being able to drink stuff like CBS and Project SAM and being able to buy kbs at the gas station. Things like those perrin first releases that are aged in van winkles barrels in >>7219843
were in every grocery store in the state for a while so I guess its a fair trade.

>> No.7220912

>>7211990

They are bottle conditioned, so each bottle can vary quite a bit.

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just got a 2015 bourbon county stout

>> No.7220967

>>7218259
that stuff is good. had it at the brewery.

is pinner just a normal IPA? never tried it but a guy at work was drinking one and kept saying it was extremely hoppy. I think he just doesn't drink IPAs

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>>7220959
I'll raise it with a 2013

>> No.7221002

>>7220967
It's a session ipa so it has a lower abv. I thought it was super citrusy and drinkable, but that's just me

>> No.7221021

>>7211668
ugh, this looks almost as bad as their Voodoo Donut novelty beer. With the authentic pepto bismol pink bottle, just like the donut box! ugh.

>> No.7221046

>>7204234
had TG king sue for new years. major disappointment. fucking garbage

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>>7220990
And a 2015 bourbon county rare.

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Having a nice dessert beer after dinner lads.

>> No.7222277

>>7222255
Has your cat ever had it's jaw wired shut?
Mine didn't start leaving it's tongue hanging out like that until it got hit by a car and had to have it's jaw wired shut for a month or so while it healed. After that, it's tongue was almost always just poking out like that.

>> No.7222294

>>7222277
Oh, no. She was about to lick her paw or something, just a weird timing when the photo was taken. My childhood cat did have its tongue hang out but iirc it never it wired shut ever.

>> No.7222537

>>7206397
Stella Artois, nigger

>> No.7222591
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What is your local beer store like?
How are the prices and selection?

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how long would you guys age a barleywine?

i got a bunch of barleywines (from assorted northwest breweries) two christmases ago.

opened one after a year and it was overwhelmingly alcohol smelling, really wasn't pleasant. before even tasting the smell was enough to burn my nose.

i'm familiar with high abv beers, but this was exhausting and overpowering.

so now they're in the garage working on a second year.

>> No.7222618

>>7222537
He said doesn't

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>> No.7222630

>>7222618
epic bantz, m80, rly

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chucks.

pros:
guys know what they're talking about.
rotating food trucks


cons:
coldcase/shelf bottles are overpriced.
all ages (soccer moms bring their toddlers)
surrounded by dusty merchandise no one buys

honestly the liquor store downtown (seattle) has better deals and a decent selection (as well as tastings)

unfortunately taking a date to a liquor store is frowned upon and i feel like an alcoholic using my points rewards card there, heh.

>> No.7222641

>>7222632

oops. meant to reply to No.7222591

also another con:
beer is served in a mason jar with a handle

>> No.7222741

>>7222641
Do they bring you a funnel too so you can pour it up your ass cause that's gay as shit. Seriously, a fucking mason jar? Wtf are they thinking?

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anyone get their growler filled up at their local store?

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>tfw Lone Star because poorfag

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>>7222591

breddy gud meng

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>>7222537

>stella artois

>> No.7222829

>implying their exists objective superiority with subjective sensory experiences
You all are pretentious fucks on par with entitled art majors.
Just drink a beer that tastes good to you.

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>>7222741
yeah...i know. they have vaguely-rare beers on tap and you get it in a fucking mason jar...not just a mason jar: a mug mason jar.

let's put the hipster/pinterest shit aside for a minute and understand how terrible this is for pint you just paid $9 for.

it was a branding decision they made five years ago...and i hate it, but get it, when it comes to volume, you need something easily to throw in the machine, but i'd still prefer a shaker pint.

>> No.7222905

>>7222889
What? No, there is no "getting it." A mason jar mug is a disgrace to any and all beer out there; let alone a fucking $9 pint. A cheap pint glass from the dollar store would be better then that shit. You can buy like 4 pint glass from Gordmans for right around $3.50 and thats retail price! Fuck!

>> No.7222992

>>7220959
I had one last night. Really good, but really not an easy drink.

>> No.7223007

>>7222609
25-30 years. See >>7218276

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9% ABV, interesting sort of wine / beer hybrid. Weak alcohol taste, great flavor overall.

>> No.7223099

>>7223085
>noble rot
>in beer

A new low, nice.

>> No.7223101

>>7223099
God forbid there is creativity and ingenuity

Everything needs to be the same procedural shit

>> No.7223151

>>7223101
> creativity and ingenuity

Hah. You have absolutely no clue what noble rot is or does in wine isn't it? There is no 'noble rot taste', if one could taste it, it would be considered a fault, you colossal idiot.

>> No.7223586

rochefort 8 is legit

>> No.7223671

>>7210679
>high gravity lager

what does this mean?

>> No.7223679

>>7223151
Don't mind the "craft beer" neckbeards, deep down they feel there is something fundamentally wrong with beer that needs fixing, hence their hostility to places like central europe that have already gone through the trial and error over centuries.

Let them have their Temper Tantrum Fuck Europe DIPA and their Haunted House Real Ranch Dressing Doughnut Stout, it's better to let the disease run its course.

>> No.7223701

>>7223151
People cook and eat corn smut, but that's considered a fault in the crop. People eat vegemite and that's leftover shit from brewer yeast. I don't understand your problem with the beer.

>> No.7223703

>>7222609
Depends on the barleywine. Some don't really need any aging, some could use a good few years. Just open a new one every Christmas or something and see how it goes

>> No.7223711

>>7223151
>You have absolutely no clue what noble rot is or does in wine isn't it?
Nor do you it seems, very quick to call him a colossal idiot despite being an arrogant retard running their mouth on something they know next to nothing about. Botrytis infection can ruin grape harvests but when picked at the right time (the noble part of "noble rot") has the effect of further concentrating sweetness in grapes allowing for the natural production of sweet wines.

>> No.7223714

>>7223711
>look mom I found wikipedia!
Nothing you said really changes what the other guy said about you. Adding random grape must before and after the fermentation of beer has nothing to do with noble rot. Also you can, and many do, "naturally" produce sweet wines without botrytis. Just stop now, you're embarrassing yourself.

>> No.7223725

>>7223714
>about you
Wasn't me m8, if you read the post you'd know.
>Just stop now, you're embarrassing yourself.
I think that's you, deliberately mischaracterising my post so that you and your buddy can continue your self satisfied indignant hate-frot over beer fags. Shit, I'm literally drinking a botrytis semillon now.

>> No.7223727

>>7223725
Oh, an Aussue. Disregard, my shitposting firepower pales next to yours.

>> No.7223728

>>7223727
Nice of you to admit it.

>> No.7223756

>>7223725

I literally grew up harvesting botrytis grapes, so shut your whore mouth noob. It makes no fucking sense at all to even use the words noble rot in the context of beer. At best it's false advertising.

>> No.7223767

>>7223756
Well that makes two of us, I spent most of my high school holidays working in vineyards, and if you put a bit more effort into stating your point over crafting the most arrogant condescending post you could muster I might have agreed with you on that.

>> No.7223771

>>7223767
>the most arrogant condescending post you could muster

You have no idea, I was in a good mood actually. Over and out, cause it's about to change.

>> No.7223777

>>7223771
>You have no idea, I was in a good mood actually. Over and out, cause it's about to change.
This is on par with the "nothin personal kid" meme
Jesus christ you reek of autism and piss

>> No.7223787

>>7204234
Nigga you forgot Orval!

By the way, I had Rochefort 8 for Christmas.
I think that this summer I'll make a roadtrip to Westvleteren Abbey, see if the legends about their beers are true.

>> No.7224370

>>7219843
What's the thomas hardy like? My dad has two bottles from 1991 that I want to try

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picked up a 12-pack of this for the weekend, one of my favorites. thought about a 4-pk of Breakfast Stout, but wanted something that would last me

>> No.7224595

>>7224542
Celebration is probably one of my favorites, good stuff.
>Founders stuff STILL isn't in Southern California
Only a few weeks.

>> No.7224632

>>7223679
europeans are hilarious

>> No.7224657

>>7223714
Why are you so upset about this noble rot stuff?

Dogfish adds must from grapes infected with botrytis before fermentation. Its kind of a wine/beer hybrid. Its rather silly for you to get upset about the completely appropriate name

>> No.7224686

>>7223679
>central europe that have already gone through the trial and error over centuries.
Do you seriously not think we can do better as humans than a palatable beer designed for poor peasants? This "perfected" beer is pretty good for what it is, its the pinnacle of Bud Light tier beer, the perfection of cheap beer. But its still cheap beer, and now the western world is a lot more affluent and we can manage to do much better. We don't need to worry about stuff like avoiding bakers grains to keep the price of bread down, or spreading out our limited resources as much as possible

>> No.7224692

>tfw no Noche Buena this year

>> No.7224709

>>7224632
>implying I didn't come over on the Mayflower
Go home

>> No.7224720

>>7224709
Reminder that every person on the Mayflower was European (and the crazy religious fanatic kind, the ISIS of their day)

Also, how old are you? That was a long time ago

>> No.7225173

>>7224720
>the isis kind
I don't think isis is fleeing religious persecution

>> No.7225187

>>7225173
Not yet

Essentially the pilgrims were ISIS philosophically, they just happened to lose the war and fled in the aftermath. But they were really fucking crazy as far as religious people go, even for the day

>> No.7225189

>>7223671
It refers to specific gravity, ironically, something that doctors measure in your piss samples.

Basically, it means it has high alcohol content (8%). It's not technically beer at all, it's malt liquor.

>> No.7225192

>>7224686
That assumes that more expensive beer is inherently better because it uses more than expensive ingredients or methods

I could make a beer using the most expensive grains, hops, and use the most expensive time intensive methods and still make a shit beer. But hey it's 12 bucks a bottle so it must be good

>> No.7225196

>>7225192
>That assumes that more expensive beer is inherently better
Watering down beer is usually bad

>> No.7225202

>>7223787
OP here.

I never tried Orval because I've never seen it on the shelf. But I do keep a look out for it.

Westvleteren 12 is an incredible drink though. By far the best I've ever had. Unfortunately I only got 1 bottle of it.

>> No.7225207

>>7225192
Most of /ck/ is 20-25 year old meditates l neckbeards who mistook ABV for quality.
It's obvious why. They're still getting over being able to legally drink, and they're still operating under the premise that "normal beer" has all the characteristics of Bud Light and all taste in beer is an overreaction to this.

>> No.7225217

>>7225192
>I could make a beer using the most expensive grains, hops, and use the most expensive time intensive methods and still make a shit beer
Sure you could. Regardless, the vast majority of the world's best beer is in the 6-12%ABV range. Lighter lagers are not inherently bad by any means, but the idea that since a bunch of poor european peasants have been drinking them for a really long time, that means it is the perfected form of beer is ridiculous. They have been drinking it for so long because their culture shunned better forms of beer in order to keep bread more affordable, and the working class generally couldn't afford to put much more grain in their beer, not because collective practice found that to be the ideal taste. Taste was never the primary consideration with those kinds of people

Luckily for us all, taste now is the primary factor for a lot of brewers. Unfortunately such breweries still have only about 20% of the US market, and far less of the global one, but things are improving every year

>> No.7225232

>>7225187
>comparing pilgrims to isis
Tumblr pls

>> No.7225248

>>7225232
The pilgrims were considered to fanatical and crazy for the fucking puritans

>> No.7225348

>>7225217
Also it's quite unfortunate that currently in America trying to focus on flavor means your going to make an ipa.
It's actually really annoying I just turned 21 two weeks ago and went to the local super market my choices where
>bud light coors light and the like
>expensive 12-14 dollar a six pack imports
>a million and one American IPAs

It was seriously annoying because I'm by no means a beer snob I'll drink just about anything put I front of me,excluding IPAs if I wanted to drink a pinecone id go find one outside and shove it in a blender, but some times I just want to get drunk off cheap beer and I the store doesn't carry any that I like.
I really dislike bud and light beers. I just want to drink a nice PBR, genessee, rolling rock, or molsons
But no I live in rich suburban America it's all bud light IPAs or expensive imports

>> No.7225380

>>7225348
>Also it's quite unfortunate that currently in America trying to focus on flavor means your going to make an ipa.
What?
Most craft breweries make like 10-20 beers a year of all sorts of styles
Most grocery stores will be at most 25% IPAs amongst craft beer, which surely is much higher than it was a few years ago, but its nowhere close to a majority of craft beer

>> No.7225398

>>7225348
>I just want to drink a nice PBR, genessee, rolling rock, or molsons
These are all the exact same thing as Budwieser

Slightly better than bud light, but almost indistinguishable from Bud or Coors or MGD or Yuengling

Also, what the fuck store doesn't have PBR? Old white people drink it and college kids drink it, so it has a pretty wide availability
and what foreign beer is selling for over $12 for a six pack, you really need to go to a different store, this place sounds ridiculous

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>>7225348
>mfw I just went to a bar and a brewery and only found 3 ipas out of the 20+ beers on tap

>> No.7225414

>>7225348
>if I wanted to drink a pinecone id go find one outside and shove it in a blender,
You got to stop getting shitty west coast IPAs and get some good IPAs

>> No.7225423

>>7225207
>the premise that "normal beer" has all the characteristics of Bud Light
In every country besides Belgium and Ireland it does (Guinness isn't a very good stout, but it definitely doesn't taste like Bud Light), sure some place's shitty lager are better than other shitty lager, but they have much more in common with each other than the do with good beer in almost every instance

>> No.7225426

>>7225380
I could just be my area because I'm not kidding at my local grocery stores the vast majority of craft beer is an IPA same thing when I go to restaurants for domestics they'll have Sam Adams and everything else will be an IPA.
It also seems to be that all of the most popular craft brews are IPAs
I got to school in upstate ny and literally every saranac beer commercial is about their three latest IPAs

>> No.7225447

>>7225426
IPA is definitely the most popular specific style of craft beer, and while its growth has slowed now, it has grown a lot in the last 5 years. However, no style has a very large percent of total craft beer sales nationally. In 2014 IPA was the most popular style with only 21% of craft beer volume (2015 stats are not available yet)

>> No.7225455

>>7225398
I just greatly Dislike bud plus in my area it is more expensive than its pbr counterparts. For me what really makes me dislike bud is the strong after taste and once I get drunk I just can't stand it. Also i go to shoprite and they will charge that much for Stella or Heineken some times it will be on sale and you can get a 12 for 14 bucks which is nice>>7225414
I live on the east coast

>> No.7225461

got a beer for xmas

element (or something) great rhythm

supposed to be a non-hoppy ESB whatever that means

Opened it new years eve at 12:00, first drain pour of 2016

>> No.7225465

>>7225455
12pack for $14 of fucking stella on the east coast?

move to /nh/ faggot i get harpoon, long trail, etc. 12/$12

>> No.7225470

>>7225455
I don't think I have ever bought Heineken, but I was under the impression that 6 packs were like $7

>> No.7225471

>>7225447
Do you think the popularity of IPA is driven by supply side or demand side?

In my experience, the typical craft brew hipster loves to talk about muh hops, and the more hops the better for them. But I dont know if they just keep buying this extremely hoppy beer because the brewers keep producing it. Or are the brewers producing it because the demand is really there.

But I keep seeing IPA on bottles that clearly arent Pale Ale. Black IPA for expample. Black ale is not Pale Ale, by definition. I get the impression they just stick IPA on a bottle because it helps it to sell.

>> No.7225507

>>7225471
I think it is demand driven for sure. IPAs are more expensive to produce than the Amber and Red Ales that defined the first wave of craft beer. Another huge factor to their increasing popularity is the proliferation of Citra-esque newer hop strains. 5 years ago it was mostly just west coast style IPAs, but now IPAs can demonstrate a huge range of flavors to the point where a brewery can make a few different ones with completely dissimilar flavors
> the typical craft brew hipster loves to talk about muh hops, and the more hops the better for them
I doubt DIPAs sell even close to what standard IPAs do
>But I keep seeing IPA on bottles that clearly arent Pale Ale
Yep, breweries are definitely capitalizing off the popularity of IPAs by pretty much just calling a hoppy version of any beer a 'color' IPA. What would have been just a hoppy wheat beer a few years ago is a white IPA, a hybrid between an IPA/porter: Black IPA. A regular old APA,, now a Session IPA

I think last year sours were the fastest growing style, so get ready to see sour variants of every single style in the next couple years, I have already seen a few sour/brett IPAs

>> No.7225559

>>7225465
/nh/ that's New Hampshire right?
No thanks I like to smoke the green and I don't feel like getting charged with a felony by your backwards ass state for having a gram on me
>>7225470
Yeah it is about that level of quality but I guess in rich white suburbia the stores realize people have more money to throw away

>> No.7226101

>>7225471
Demand, for sure.
>>7225507
Black IPA was a fun little gimmick that was started when some brewery put an IPA in blackface by using enough roast malt to darken it up, it took off and more porter style versions came out of that, white IPA was a pisstake of the trend that also ended up trending, and session IPA makes sense as IPAs historically were not relatively stronger than contemporary beers.

>> No.7226122

>>7226101
>ession IPA makes sense as IPAs historically were not relatively stronger than contemporary beers.
Sure, but its clearly a marketing gimmick in that only 5 years ago such beers were called APAs. The whole marketing something as being a 'session beer' is just a way to make a cheaper beer, if the regular version has too much alcohol. just don't drink as much

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drinking this

>> No.7226276

>>7226122
>The whole marketing something as being a 'session beer' is just a way to make a cheaper beer, if the regular version has too much alcohol. just don't drink as much
That's pretty retarded, when I'm out I'll often pace myself with medium and low strength beers, I'd rather that than soda water or actively considering the clock when I'm drinking socially.

As for the name, I figure it is just an indicator that the beer will be hoppy and full flavoured, where some APAs were somewhat dull beers breweries put out when they needed to win over local macro drinkers, obviously that hasn't been an issue for a long time and it is a marketing term but there has to be a point where people stop sperging over the small things, realise that the BJCP is convenience driven and relies on next to no primary research and that the strengths of session IPAs are in fact reasonable in terms of British and historical context and nothing to be triggered over.