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Anonymous Thu Dec 17 16:07:30 2015 No.7179252 [Reply] [Original]

Tell me, di/ck/s..

Does canned food really expire on the printed expiration date? Is this just a myth?

I only ask because I have a can of soup in front of me that expired in July. It was stored in a cabinet above the oven and the bottom is a little rusty. Will this make me sick? My stomach hurts so badly I've been rummaging through the roommates cupboards looking for expired things they don't want. Not trying to steal anything that they are going to eat.

Anonymous Thu Dec 17 16:13:31 2015 No.7179261

>>7179252
It's probably fine. Canned food has a much longer shelf life than is printed on the can. Eventually the food will start to lose nutrients, similar to how vitamin pills lose efficacy over time.

The rust is a bit worrying, but as long as it hasn't actually eaten a hole in the can, you should be fine. Look inside the can after you dump out the contents, if there is a worrying amount of rust, toss it.

If the food doesn't smell bad, it's probably fine.

If you get the screaming shits, drink some extra water and take an anti-diahrehal medicine.

Anonymous Thu Dec 17 16:17:07 2015 No.7179269

Really expiration dates are just indicators to how old it is

Fro a legal point of view its easier to say this shit is gonna fuck you up way before it actually goes bad so there'll be a large buffer zone of when its still good and when its gonna rot your guts out, to minimize the risk of a lawsuit as much as possible

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 16:22:16 2015 No.7179282 >>7179252 >7000 annual botulism deaths >"I'll probably be fine "

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 16:23:52 2015 No.7179284 >>7179261 >>7179269 Awesome I'm convinced. If I get sick I'll report back here for the amusement of others. Hooray for sustenance.

Anonymous Thu Dec 17 16:29:47 2015 No.7179291

>>7179282
Cite your sources.
The CDC reports about 110 cases a year in the US. Most of those attributed to improper home canning.

Cases of factory canned botulism are insanely rare.

Survival rate is 50% and climbing.

5 months expired is not going to be a problem unless the can has significant damage. Botulism will also cause the can to bulge.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 16:29:51 2015 No.7179292 >>7179282 Are those from expired canned food?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 16:32:07 2015 No.7179296 >>7179282 Willing to take the risk. I'm hungry as fuck.

Anonymous Thu Dec 17 16:34:02 2015 No.7179302

Back in the 1980's there was an... emergency, or famine, or shortage or some damn thing that led to the UK being flooded with tins of white label beef stew. Being a thrifty woman, my grandmother saved several cans.

She died in 2001, leaving three of those cans still unopened in her kitchen. Along with her baking tins and bread knife, I inherited them.

In 2008, while going through a bad patch (My workplace closed and the government were less than sympathetic), and after a month of ramen noodles, I found the tins on the top shelf of my kitchen cupboard.

If I had been into Fallout at the time I might have saved them for my cosplay ambitions, but instead I ate them because I was DONE with Ramen.

Tasted great (Pre Chernobyl dust-cloud beef, Mm Mmm!), didn't make me sick, and I wish I still had some because now I have a craving for beef stew.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 16:47:44 2015 No.7179317 Little while ago someone opened a nearly 200 year old can of veal or beef and they ate it and they were fine so Id so no that shit basically will last forever as long as it remains unopened

Anonymous Thu Dec 17 16:54:14 2015 No.7179329

>>7179252
canned food can harbor botulism if they let a minuscule amount of air in.

Thats why there is a shelf life on them, the cans failing.
Slight rust or a dent or something like that can easily taint a can thats been sitting a long time.

>>7179291
>Cases of factory canned botulism are insanely rare.
Because most people dont wait until after the absurdly long expiration date on cans to eat the food.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 16:57:35 2015 No.7179335 >>7179329 >Because most people dont wait until after the absurdly long expiration date on cans to eat the food. lol. what country are you from? in my experience, you're dead wrong on that one.

Anonymous Thu Dec 17 16:58:27 2015 No.7179339

>>7179282
botulism is only from improperly canned/preserved food, when there's no oxygen in the can. it won't suddenly just appear after the printed date. in fact, it's more likely that it would be there BEFORE the date because it had to be improperly preserved.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 16:59:50 2015 No.7179341 >>7179302 Damn, anon, I just made a huge pot of beef stew this weekend, 4 pounds of USDA prime beef shoulder, lots of root veggies, and fresh herbs. If I found out you were nearby, I'd totally bring you some.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 17:01:07 2015 No.7179342 >>7179341 >tfw no gracious neighbor to take pity on me :(

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 17:10:55 2015 No.7179361 >>7179341 And that sounds awesome. So, being that I live nowhere near you (I'm in Scotland), I'll have to pass. But damn. I'll go shopping tomorrow. Some Pure Highland beef, go from there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 17:21:01 2015 No.7179382 File: 58 KB, 630x460, 1366054496554.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7179302 >tins of white label beef stew >I inherited them

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 17:24:37 2015 No.7179388 >>7179252 Is the can kinda "puffed"? Does it look like it's swollen? If not, you're probably in the clear.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 17:38:34 2015 No.7179416 File: 316 KB, 545x544, 1438581912493[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7179382 sometimes i pull the lid so hard, i rip the tin

Anonymous Thu Dec 17 18:08:19 2015 No.7179468

See:
http://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsis/topics/food-safety-education/get-answers/food-safety-fact-sheets/food-labeling/food-product-dating/food-product-dating/!ut/p/a1/jZFfb4IwFMU_jY-ll-EM7o2QGGUTZsxm5cUUaQtJaUlbR7ZPv-7fw4xstk_39Hdy7z3FJSa4VPSlFdS1WlH5UZezA2xgFs5TyIp5uIBV_rwp7tMU4u2tB_Z_AHl0pX_kJPCfP7uiwY1Zp2uBy566BrWKa0wEc4gqOzBjMeFa18hSztwr4vTokG0Ycz8PklZMtkp8l73R9ckztY9oTNzh8vdYEPq7yqPtdJnlERTTc-BCbl_AeDB-cyF19flJ-0RVUexXNIwzw0xwMl5unOvt3QQmMAxDILQWkgVH3V0yNNo6TM64vnsibw_JEtrHbhfb5B3rzVhk/#7

Bottom of the section, to be precise. Check expired cans before eating them/throwing them out, basically.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 18:18:37 2015 No.7179491 OP here just finished eating it. Tasted a little bit funny, but I loaded it with ground pepper and ate all of it. The can looked normal on the inside.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 18:27:16 2015 No.7179506 >>7179491 >Tasted a little bit funny Did you even read the thread?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 18:33:55 2015 No.7179525 >>7179506 Yes, I did. I weighed the risks and benefits and made a conscious decision to eat it. Blow me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 18:39:50 2015 No.7179536 >>7179525 you'll blow your bunghole, more like

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 18:42:10 2015 No.7179546 >>7179536 I've accepted my fate.

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