20 years ago could anyone really have predicted that the United States would be producing the best and most creative beer in the world?

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Anonymous Sat Oct 10 16:23:27 2015 No.6960933 [Reply] [Original]

20 years ago could anyone really have predicted that the United States would be producing the best and most creative beer in the world?

>>	( •̀ω•́ ) Sat Oct 10 16:25:24 2015 No.6960940 >>6960933 Picture unrelated I suppose

Anonymous Sat Oct 10 16:36:45 2015 No.6960972
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Anyone ever have CBS? I've had regular Breakfast Stout of course and KBS one time, but CBS sounds the most exciting. It's got 100 on Beer Advocate so I assume it's gonna be really good, but if anyone can compare it to the other two that'd be cool.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 16:45:43 2015 No.6960994 >>6960940 who doesn't like breakfast stout?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 16:49:52 2015 No.6961001 >>6960994 Stout is far too heavy for my tastes, but that's just me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 16:51:12 2015 No.6961003 >>6960994 most people who've had founders for a number of years don't like breakfast stout for the past while over time it started to get incredibly thin and ashy-tasting, same with kbs

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 16:52:09 2015 No.6961005 >>6961003 I mean I wouldn't describe breakfast stout as one of the best beers in the world, but its surely good

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 16:54:40 2015 No.6961011 >>6960994 men

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 17:06:07 2015 No.6961029 >>6960994 The picture on the label looks pretty disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 17:39:03 2015 No.6961107 >>6960994 women

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 17:41:42 2015 No.6961118 >>6960933 Well we have good beer in certain parts of the country. In flyover land on the otherhand..... not so much.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 17:44:00 2015 No.6961127 >>6961118 What? The northern midwest makes the best beer in the world

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 17:44:54 2015 No.6961132 >>6961127 Have you ever actually left the Midwest?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 17:45:22 2015 No.6961133 File: 43 KB, 332x396, 1418530450304.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6961127 >What? The northern midwest makes the best beer in the world

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 17:45:29 2015 No.6961134 >>6961127 I'm pretty sure the best beer in the US comes from the West Coast.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 17:47:15 2015 No.6961141 >>6961134 im pretty sure you are wrong. There is literally nowhere else in the world where so much good beer is being made and so easily bought than the area around Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Chicago and Michigan

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 17:47:28 2015 No.6961142 >>6961118 >implying colorado does not have more craft breweries per capita >implying the great American beer festival is not held here>>6961118

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 17:48:41 2015 No.6961146 >>6961132 Have you ever been there? Even BA with its strong new england bias agrees the Midwest does it the best http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/top/

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 17:52:32 2015 No.6961167 >>6961146 >http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/top/ why is the west coast so bad at making elite beer?

Anonymous Sat Oct 10 17:53:21 2015 No.6961169

>>6961146
Why would I travel to the Mid West? That would be waste of time considering the only thing of worth in the Midwest is maybe Chicago. It's mostly just big empty fields and mediocre beer.

Here in SoCal we used to have "flyover" parties where we dressed up as hicks and drank shitty beer ironically, pretty cringey looking back but it's a pretty accurate reflection of how Midwestern beer is seen outside of Flyover land.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 17:53:38 2015 No.6961170 >>6961141 Is this the same sort of absurd self-obsession that makes people who never left Wisconsin think they make the best cheese in the world?

Anonymous Sat Oct 10 17:54:21 2015 No.6961172
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definitely not. But I think if you asked the right people they would deny that we do today either.
pic related, he makes the best beer in the country and I highly doubt he thinks he does it better than Belgium

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 17:56:08 2015 No.6961182 >>6961169 >Why would I travel to the Mid West? Why travel anywhere with that attitude?

Anonymous Sat Oct 10 17:58:04 2015 No.6961185

>>6961182
Is it even possible to travel to the midwest by plane?

I mean, I see planes flying over these states often but I don't recall them having any airports.

I would drive, but I fear I will crash since the midwest is just the same corn fields for 500 miles

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 17:58:08 2015 No.6961186 >>6961169 LA is the second largest city in america and it makes less good beer than countless tiny cities in the midwest

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 17:58:39 2015 No.6961190 >>6961182 If you enjoy food and drink, a food desert like the midwest is obviously the last place you want to go.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 18:00:48 2015 No.6961194 >>6961172 pretty much anyone educated in beer agrees america, specifically the northern parts makes the best beer in the world. Belgium has good beer and a much better beer culture than what you find in the rest of europe but its not even close anymore

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 18:01:30 2015 No.6961201 >>6961170 Yes it is. Left coast consistently produces quality beer over the whole seaboard

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 18:02:48 2015 No.6961206 >>6961190 you can get almost the exact same good food in every city, beer, not so much. There is literally no American city of over 200k people where good food is tough to find

Anonymous Sat Oct 10 18:05:05 2015 No.6961210

>>6961201
No it doesn't. The northwest has a lot of good beer, but little great beer. California has a few elite brewers but it lags far behind the northwest, midwest and northeast. There is a very strong north/south correlation with good beer for some reason regardless of how far east or west you are

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 18:08:05 2015 No.6961222 >>6960933 Does that actually have chocolate, coffee and oatmeal in it? Because roasted malt is capable of producing cocoa and coffee flavours without assistance, and oatmeal sounds unpleasant, so using such additives would be silly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 18:12:13 2015 No.6961233 >>6961194 ask tod who makes the best beer in the world, I guarentee he won't say its him

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 18:15:44 2015 No.6961247 >>6961222 oats work very well in stouts, its actually kind of silly not to incorporate some oats if you are making a stout and there is no way you could recreate the flavor of a coffee stout with only roasted barley

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 18:16:45 2015 No.6961252 >>6961233 um, ok

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 19:20:26 2015 No.6961431 >>6961118 Sure do love endless ipa circle jerking in cali. So good!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 19:24:26 2015 No.6961446 File: 92 KB, 750x752, lemonig.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >californians think their beers aren't available outside of california not sure if pompousness or retardation

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 19:26:58 2015 No.6961454 >>6961185 You must not fly much.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 19:27:10 2015 No.6961457 File: 40 KB, 432x613, topplinggoliathpseudosue.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6961431 and most of the best IPAs are in the midwest and northeast anyways

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 19:32:22 2015 No.6961468 File: 1.21 MB, 2560x1440, IMG_20151010_190639212.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6960933 >>6960933 This is what I am drinking. had a Dirty Bastard earlier in the day. I went to Founders once before a concert. Great place. >pic related

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 19:37:06 2015 No.6961486 >>6961457 >says IPA >posts an APA

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 19:48:32 2015 No.6961521 File: 47 KB, 640x427, Zombie-Dust.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6961486 I don't care how the brewery describes it, even if its not an IPA its does a better job of being an IPA than anything from the west coast Same goes for this

Anonymous Sat Oct 10 20:10:22 2015 No.6961590
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>>6960933
My current fridge right now. This is the emptiest it has been. No bragging. Im the buyer at a beer shop so I'm always bringing stuff home.

Problem with my buying is that I buy all this crazy rare expensive stuff and I save it for a "better" day. so then I just go buy a 6pk ipa and get drunk off that instead while all this intense sutff just sits

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 20:13:51 2015 No.6961598 if your beer has to rely on a gimmick it is a shitty beer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 20:17:08 2015 No.6961606 >>6961598 like the new packaging gimmick that the macro brewers constantly cycle through?

Anonymous Sat Oct 10 20:26:42 2015 No.6961632

>>6961141
>nowhere else in the world where so much good beer is being made and so easily bought

not even a belgiumfag but that's so blatantly wrong based on sheer numbers combined with popularity

you really can't name an american brewery that touches the hype from cantillon alone

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Anonymous Sat Oct 10 20:35:58 2015 No.6961669

Belgium has pretty good beer, by far the best outside america, but not near the variety of quality beers in so many different styles as you can find in the american north

Are you seriously saying Cantillon is better than every american brewery? All sorts of american breweries are making excellent sour beers now, Cantillon is great, but nothing unique.

I would much rather live in a place where you can buy a really good beer of pretty much any style, and almost always at a good price

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 21:12:59 2015 No.6961832 >>6961669 you hit the nail on the head. Ive been working in beer for about 4 years now. I've been to cantillon before. They make amazing beer but as you explained no other country offers the variety and quality of beer as the United States.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 21:53:55 2015 No.6961976 File: 100 KB, 247x259, 1272841828970.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6960933 Good joke. Belgium, Germany, Britain and Denmark still exist.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 22:11:15 2015 No.6962051 >>6961976 Do you seriously think any of those are even competitive with america?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 22:13:42 2015 No.6962056 >>6961832 >variety in that the majority of beers are shelf turds with a handful of decent ones interspersed because all of the ones worth having got bought directly off the truck by neckbeards with more money than sense >american craft beer

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 22:15:06 2015 No.6962060 >>6962051 They are

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 22:18:36 2015 No.6962064 >>6962056 do you live in california or the south? There are so many good beers lining the shelves of any gorcery store up here

Anonymous Sat Oct 10 22:22:20 2015 No.6962072

>>6962060
Thats really a crazy thing to believe these days. England and Denmark are starting to catch on but they are still way behind. Belgium is by far the best beer in europe, they make a small handful of styles really well, but nothing that american brewers have not figured out how to master, and Germany is way the fuck behind they might have better shitty beer than the rest of the world, but they have almost no good beer and its really silly to even compare them to Belgium.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 22:23:36 2015 No.6962075 >>6960972 I have one. Its been sitting in my "cellar" since it came out though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 22:47:04 2015 No.6962142 >>6961185 I know this is sarcasm but it's actually a real pain in the ass to fly into/out of the midwest. You almost always have to have a connecting flight.

Anonymous Sat Oct 10 22:52:38 2015 No.6962158

>>6961169
Holy shit I've never even set foot in the US but I can see from here how obsessed you coastfags are with flyover country

Does a single day ever pass when you don't talk about it? Flyover this, flyover that. Just admit it coastfags, you've got a huge crush on the Midwest, haven't you?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 00:31:35 2015 No.6962407 >>6962056 >handful delusional as fuck. try more like a fucking shitload

Anonymous Sun Oct 11 01:34:38 2015 No.6962533

>>6962072
You know it's funny I've worked as a brewer for 3 years now and I doubt anyone in the industry would say Germany is "the best at making shitty beer" clean consistent lagers are the toughest beer styles to make along with sours.

The catch is very few people have the palate to taste the year to year difference on sours and the ones that do are quite forgiving and know that it's impossible to perfectly replicate a batch as of now

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 01:58:39 2015 No.6962570 >>6960933 They couldn't and it doesn't.

Anonymous Sun Oct 11 02:03:46 2015 No.6962578

>>6961976
>Germany, Britain, and Denmark

Jesus christ, might as well throw Uganada in there

Belgium is the only one you could actually make a half-assed contention for

Even then they have no where near the variety and mass of great beer that America has

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 02:05:12 2015 No.6962581 >buy a 4 pack of Breakfast Stout >first bottle is amazing, everything you'd expect >every other bottle tastes like regurgitated Starbucks Why?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 02:07:18 2015 No.6962584 >>6962581 thats ever bitch beer that sells on its "flavor" it all just starts to taste gross after a while.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 02:26:07 2015 No.6962612 >>6962584 Yeah, but I genuinely enjoyed it, had a bottle the next day and it tasted like shit Maybe I didn't clean my glassware well?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 02:27:22 2015 No.6962616 >>6962612 nah the beer has betrayerd you you must rid it from your life

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 03:40:36 2015 No.6962794 >>6961141 UHHH https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewing_in_Oregon

Anonymous Sun Oct 11 03:44:37 2015 No.6962803

I'd say that the US is the best right now other than the best in Germany. We're now on par or better than the Czechs or Belgians.

You'd have to be here in the US to have it fresh. We're in the middle of a revolution here that's way ahead of what they did in the Napa Valley with wine. The natural water here is outstanding for beer and the temperature in the north allows for some outstanding cold brews.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 03:50:47 2015 No.6962812 >>6962578 Britbong beer can be pretty good, it's mostly just their big brands like Newcastle that are watered-down piss Scottish beer best UK beer, though

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 06:19:53 2015 No.6963031 >>6961457 This is the best apa I've ever had tbh fam. Also I can't believe there are still west coast fags thinking they make the best beer. That's actually hilarious.

Anonymous Sun Oct 11 10:33:44 2015 No.6963415

>>6962803
german beer isn't even that good. They get credit for their bad beer being better than the bad beer everywhere else, but their ceiling is incredibly low, and they really aren't even starting to catch on to the making good beer thing like the UK and Scandinavian countries are

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 10:37:11 2015 No.6963422 >>6963415 You can just say you don't like pilseners, hefeweizens, or any other traditional styles of beer. It's fine.

Anonymous Sun Oct 11 10:41:44 2015 No.6963439
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>>6963422
I like them just fine, but I like a lot of other stuff too, and I can find great hefewiezen and lager in america just as easily

Remember, a huge chunk of the american north was settled by Germans who brought all of their traditions with them

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 10:48:53 2015 No.6963466 File: 513 KB, 1632x1224, s6Mc9Gi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] why are you guys pretending pale ales are the best beers in the world?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 11:06:33 2015 No.6963494 >>6963439 >Johnsonville brats and kraft singles >"tradition " Get back to me when Wisconsin is producing riesling of the same caliber as the Mosel

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 11:12:17 2015 No.6963509 >>6963494 This isn't a wine or cheese thread you faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 11:14:06 2015 No.6963512 >>6963494 what does that have to do with anything? Most kraft cheese is from the west coast, Wisconsin factory farms are churning out the cheddar and mozzarella and wine? What? Why would you even bring something so arbitrary up?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 11:15:07 2015 No.6963513 >best Belgian ales and german weisse are still the most balanced beers in the world >most creative >Muh obscure hop species and unorthodox ingredients Some good stouts and porters come from merica though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 11:17:06 2015 No.6963520 >>6963513 >weisse confirmed for pleb. might as well eat a half-loaf of bread.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 11:17:46 2015 No.6963522 >>6963494 >Riesling Stop pretending to know shit about wine if you think that serious wine can be made in Wisconsin. The geography simply doesn't exist. Also, quit the red herring garbage, it makes your arguments look weak

Anonymous Sun Oct 11 11:18:09 2015 No.6963523

>>6963512
>"cheddar "
Yeah I bought some Wisconsin cheddar a few months ago, it was on sale. For aged cheese it was shockingly bland. Isn't cheese supposed to develop crystals? Never seen it in the industrial garbage of the Midwest. Guess it freaks out the flyover palate.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 11:19:15 2015 No.6963525 >>6963522 >geography You guys think maps are anti American, what would you know about maps.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 11:20:07 2015 No.6963531 >>6963513 >Belgian ales and german weisse are still the most balanced beers in the world What a meaningless and unquantifiable thing to say

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 11:21:08 2015 No.6963535 >>6963523 Wisconsin makes most of america's best and worst cheddar, next time don't buy the cheap stuff bub

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 11:22:06 2015 No.6963539 >>6963531 As if taste isn't subjective as fuck and objective in any way.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 11:22:09 2015 No.6963541 >>6963525 What does this even mean?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 11:22:13 2015 No.6963542 >>6963525 >you guys And here come the blanket statements. You should think about adopting a trip code!

Anonymous Sun Oct 11 11:22:45 2015 No.6963546

>>6963512
It's not arbitrary at all. It's a part of the culture that was lost, just like the appreciation for good beer, and good food in general.

It's like these Chicanos in SoCal who think their horrid texmex abomination is legit mexican food like their abuela made in Michoacan.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 11:23:14 2015 No.6963548 >>6963539 Hi, where are the ratings?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 11:25:23 2015 No.6963554 >>6963546 Are you high? You're just chaining random shit you don't like about Americans together at this point. Get it off your chest I guess

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 11:25:50 2015 No.6963556 Is that a young Donald Trump?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 11:26:06 2015 No.6963557 >>6963546 but you can find much better beer in the german settled areas of america today than you can find in germany and what does wine have to do with anything? making wine is not about skill, its about climate and edaphology

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 11:26:35 2015 No.6963559 >>6963554 >Wisconsin is the only real antigens American Lay off the Tea Party propaganda, mein herr

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 11:29:10 2015 No.6963570 >>6963559 are you just saying random things?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 11:29:25 2015 No.6963571 >>6963557 Ok good luck getting wheat farmers to figure out how to make good wine, just plunk 'em down on route 29 and tell them to have a go at it :^)

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 11:31:02 2015 No.6963575 >>6960994 I think that he meant breakfast stout is not at all a creative type of beer.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 11:31:09 2015 No.6963576 >>6963571 wine making is much less of a skill, thats why the primary selling point of wine is where it was made. This is not the case with beer

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>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 11:42:05 2015 No.6963614 >>6963576 You just got done arguing that Wisconsin has the best beer because it's got ethnic Germans, but apparently that's only applicable when it's a beverage you "feel" takes skill to make.

Anonymous Sun Oct 11 11:44:31 2015 No.6963624

>>6963614
I never said anything like that, I was saying Germany isn't the only place that makes german style beer and does it well. You suggestion that the immigrants just came here and lost all of their culture is ridiculous. Most of them still primarily spoke german up until the world wars

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 11:51:31 2015 No.6963646 >the greatest country in the world >anyone surprised that they produce the best of something Really, OP?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 13:07:40 2015 No.6963853 >>6960933 >Implying Hertog Jan Grand Prestige isn't the best beer in the world.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 13:11:07 2015 No.6963863 >>6963646 This tbh. Not even trying to enrage euroshits, but we do kind of make the best of everything in the U.S.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 13:16:42 2015 No.6963883 >>6963863 Stay ignorant ameripleb

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 13:22:18 2015 No.6963891 >>6960933 Beer so good they called it "craft" beer.......

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 13:31:40 2015 No.6963907 >>6963863 I literally am a euroshit, I'm the one who posted >>6963646 I weep every day at the fact that I wasn't born in the based US of A, God's blessed country not even joking, this sounds like a joke but it isn't, America is great

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 13:32:32 2015 No.6963908 visited the states. agreed might even claim them to have the best beers if they have this many selections

Anonymous Sun Oct 11 13:36:44 2015 No.6963915
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>breakfast double chocolate coffee oatmeal
What the fuck is this abomination? If you're that much of a sissy that you need your fucking beer to taste like a dessert I don't think stouts are right for you.

Oatmeal stouts are good, and chocolate stouts are good. Most coffee stouts/porters I've had taste bitter and artificial. But adding all those buzzwords together just sounds extremely fucking silly.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 13:37:43 2015 No.6963916 USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 13:38:02 2015 No.6963918 >>6963915 world is too big for just your liking mate grow the fuck up

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 13:41:03 2015 No.6963925 If the wine industry was any indication, then yes. We've had a strong beer culture for 100+ years.

Anonymous Sun Oct 11 13:43:06 2015 No.6963933

>>6963918
>grow the fuck up
I'm not the one trying to make my beer taste like a breakfast cereal. If you don't like the taste of beer, stop trying to pretend you like it. It's like people who will say "Oh my god, I LOVE coffee" but they only drink a giant fucking super whipped venti cappalatte chocolate java chip cookie shake from Starcucks

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 13:47:52 2015 No.6963944 >>6963415 But the best thing about German beer is the number of pubs that brew their own. Unless you've actually been to Germany and had it fresh then you haven't really had it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 14:22:05 2015 No.6964051 I loved that beer in TX when I lived there but now I'm in CO and it's not distributed in this state. I have some friends bringing me 2 cases later this month though, so that's nice.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 14:22:38 2015 No.6964053 reddit: the thread

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 14:52:59 2015 No.6964142 >>6963933 You're a fucking idiot

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 14:59:35 2015 No.6964164 >>6964142 Great response. Very well thought out. I'm in awe at your skills of oration.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 15:02:52 2015 No.6964172 >>6964142 *your

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 15:04:32 2015 No.6964178 >>6961976 there's great beer in all those counties but the US has an edge now, 20 years ago US beer was shit tier.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 15:06:57 2015 No.6964183 >>6961185 im in Manhattan ks and the only two places there air port flys to is fort worth and Chicago. Connections from there.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 15:10:11 2015 No.6964189 Fucking top kek at that anon. The midwest isn't the best at anything except being the place that no one wants to be in ever.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 15:16:45 2015 No.6964209 >>6964178 i can confirm this... would love to go to USA again to see your evolution in brewing culture... unfortunately I have other interests now...

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 17:03:52 2015 No.6964496 >>6960972 It's out like once every few years, relatively rare.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 17:19:28 2015 No.6964575 >>6964172 B8 or retarded?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 17:22:00 2015 No.6964587 >>6963513 Belgian ales are the precursors to "unorthodox" ingredients You're just another butthurt foreigner that's clearly out of his depths

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 17:26:34 2015 No.6964620 >>6962584 >bitch beer that sells on flavor Flyover

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 17:26:37 2015 No.6964621 american beer always seems so gimmicky

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 17:28:05 2015 No.6964624 File: 31 KB, 300x450, 233.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Nope, we still have the best beer on this planet.

Anonymous Sun Oct 11 17:55:49 2015 No.6964751

>>6961185
Yeah I'm in new York and I flew to Chicago once

I almost had a panic attack over how many parking lots there were, but luckily the sofitel by the water tower place looks like a normal building in a normal city. You just can't venture too far out of the CBD because it's panera and cheesecake factory from the edge of normalsville to the corn fields out by O'Hare

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 18:04:21 2015 No.6964785 >>6964621 Yeah it's so weird how they experiment with all these different flavors and ingredients. Just give me the same old piss, guys!

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 18:20:57 2015 No.6964837 >>6963915 It honestly sounds like you don't really know much about stouts or beer in general

Anonymous Sun Oct 11 18:25:02 2015 No.6964850

>>6963933
Beer has countless different tastes

Its what separates it from ULTRA-pretentious wine snobs such as yourself

You're shittalking a beer you havent even tried (protip: its nothing like breakfast cereal)

You're just trying to pathetically look macho when you look like a whiny aspie

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 18:26:03 2015 No.6964853 >>6964624 >im 16 I can tell

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 18:32:44 2015 No.6964872 >>6964785 Fuck off. Gimmick flavored beers are like flavored whiskey. If you can't taste the subtle differences between different drinks, and you need artificial flavoring to scream it to you, you really have no business acting like you enjoy it.

Anonymous Sun Oct 11 18:35:31 2015 No.6964877

>>6964850
Kek. You think I'm somehow being a snob? I don't give a shit if you need a flavored beer to drink. But don't try to act like you actually enjoy the taste of beer if it has to be flavored with chocolate and coffee. I would never say I love wine if I only drank strawberry flavored wine coolers

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 18:43:53 2015 No.6964898 >>6964872 You're right. Whisk(e)y producers never use unique ingredients or aging processes to set themselves apart from the competition. Do you know how dumb you sound?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 18:45:22 2015 No.6964904 >>6964877 >You think I'm somehow being a snob You are, you're literally just restating points I called you out on And again, you look like a whiny wannabe macho, autist, out of his depth

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 18:46:23 2015 No.6964908 >>6964872 You're not even making any sense at this point, put the bottle down and get some sleep

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 18:50:15 2015 No.6964920 >>6964904 >getting this fanny flustered that someone called your beer sissy Feeling a little insecure are we? I'm guessing you're also one of those #MasculinitySoFragile fags on twitter

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 18:52:26 2015 No.6964927 >>6964920 >a little insecure are we Yes, you are :) I'm not the one ranting about sissy beers and being scared of catching the gay from someone m8 Succumb to your urges and suck a dick, m8

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 18:55:21 2015 No.6964934 >this one literal aspie limp wristed German that always shits up threads talking about "real" beer Every time lmao

Anonymous Sun Oct 11 23:16:46 2015 No.6965663

>>6964751
You don't know anything about chicago besides the name of the city and an airport.

There's a reason LA is losing their location contracts for movies. It has a lot to do with parking. Turns out free parking is the tits. High quality tits.

Also 1/2 acre is a fantastic brewery. Love this place. Filled two growlers from other breweries and they were cool about it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 23:21:58 2015 No.6965674 >>6960933 I don't know. 20 years ago I was too young to be thinking about alcohol, and I'm currently way too old to be on 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 23:26:18 2015 No.6965683 Living in West Michigan is awesome, I'm where the distribution of many regional breweries overlap. Shit I'm happy just having Bell's and Founder's right next door.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 23:43:30 2015 No.6965718 >>6964189 I can walk to founders, and drive to 20+ unique breweries within 15 mins. How are you even getting the water to brew beer in social again?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:44:53 2015 No.6966018 File: 501 KB, 1000x562, Generic.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Friendly reminder that there are more garbage and/or mediocre breweries than good ones regardless of where you are located.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:52:22 2015 No.6966037 >>6963466 I want that bourbon barrel stout

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:11:26 2015 No.6966088 File: 94 KB, 1101x355, garage project.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6960933 If you want creative, Garage project in New Zealand have released some awesome beers!

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:13:08 2015 No.6966096

>>6960933
Yeah, I think someone could have predicted it. The US has always loved its beer and liquor since colonial days, and tends to bust out with some interesting solutions every time someone (government, big business) or something (tradition, laws) gets in their way of doing what they want and enjoying it. It's a country made of immigrants who told where they came from to fuck off. That mentality breeds innovation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:17:56 2015 No.6966110 File: 177 KB, 250x380, 1348709364_1_FT0_samuelsmithorganicchocolatestout1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What does /ck/ think of this?

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:19:19 2015 No.6966118

>>6961169
>Here in SoCal we used to have "flyover" parties where we dressed up as hicks and drank shitty beer ironically, pretty cringey looking back but it's a pretty accurate reflection of how Midwestern beer is seen outside of Flyover land.

I swear, the worst part about enjoying craft beer are the smug, pretentious faggots who I'm associated with.

I'll drink an Old Rasputin just as readily as a Budweiser depending on how much cash I have on hand. I hate faggots who pass up on beer because it's too pleb. Fucking hipsters.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:21:38 2015 No.6966124 >>6966088 This place is about 30 seconds from me. Pity I'm a broke student and can barely afford cheap beer.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:24:58 2015 No.6966131
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ITT flyover neckbeards who think Miller and Budweiser increase their rep as beer making states.

You don't have micro like the west and Colorado.

Your culture is the culture Europeans make fun of.

You can't top Firestone and Rogue. You never fucking will.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:30:55 2015 No.6966142 >>6966131 >ITT flyover neckbeards I think you mean normies. Arguing about beer unironically is probably the most autistic thing you can do outside of obsessing about Sonic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:33:32 2015 No.6966144 >>6964178 The things you kids tell yourselves. Honestly, it's an equal mix of cute and cringeworthy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:35:23 2015 No.6966146 >>6966131 >Colorado >Not a flyover state Stay delusional.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:37:16 2015 No.6966151
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>>6966131
Pic related is the tastiest beer I've ever had. I've tried all sorts of shit from Rogue, North Coast, Firestone, etc and this trumps them all. Being hoppy and bitter for the sake of it =/= good beer. A good beer is one that is flavorful and easy to drink one after another. You beer advocate hipsters can go suck a cock.

inb4 Eurofag. Nope; I'm a burger through and through.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:54:49 2015 No.6966183 >>6966151 You're a cuck who drinks the cum of the English and calls it flavorful and easy to drink.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 02:58:09 2015 No.6966187 >>6966183 >being this mad Bad night? >>6966110 Delicious.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 03:05:01 2015 No.6966195 File: 67 KB, 496x800, Ryan_Gosling_Cannes_2014.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6966187 Shitposting helps me get out my anger and be a happier person to my friends and family

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 03:37:40 2015 No.6966257 >>6964496 It only came out one time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 06:31:04 2015 No.6966444 >>6966257 Bottled? Yes, but there are kegs of it dispersed every year. If founders distributes to your state you might be able to find a bar that will have a special tapping of the stuff.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:17:48 2015 No.6966849 >>6966183 >he doesn't know about Sam Smiths fucking pleb

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:22:46 2015 No.6966857 >>6966849 Entry level as fuck. The only thing I've had of theirs that was memorable was the taddy porter

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:23:16 2015 No.6966858 >>6966857 Stingo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 11:24:31 2015 No.6966861 >>6966857 >not having a session in a beautiful old Sam Smiths pub with your mates >wanting obscure barrel aged imperial IPAs at 10%+ in ridiculous glassware Get fucked.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 13:53:58 2015 No.6967134 >>6966861 >making all these baseless assumptions Sorry. SS is a good brewery, but nothing too noteworthy imo fam

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 14:05:14 2015 No.6967148 >>6961170 the way you feel about him is the way the rest of the world feels about these american autofellatio threads

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:25:59 2015 No.6968606 File: 20 KB, 300x248, Michigan-Brewers-Guild-logo-e1361504642277.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] best beer state

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:29:34 2015 No.6968613 >>6968606 Michigan, wisconsin, minnesota. In that order.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:37:38 2015 No.6968631 >>6966861 Sam Smiths is my fucking favorite beer cheers anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:51:11 2015 No.6968652 >>6968613 Objectively the best beers come from the Third Coast. >no salt no sharks

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:52:55 2015 No.6968656 File: 36 KB, 582x406, laughing animes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6961134 >left coast faggots are ACTUALLY this delusional

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:53:43 2015 No.6968660

>>6968613
I think Wisconsin gets the edge because they have better out of state distribution there, You can get a lot of Michigan's best beer in Wisconsin (plus Toppling Goliath, Surly and Three Floyds most of the other best breweries in the region), but you can't get much of Wisconsin's best in Michigan

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:56:54 2015 No.6968672 File: 93 KB, 735x512, 1370549479494.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6966131 >Your culture is the culture Europeans make fun of. That's a good thing though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:57:21 2015 No.6968673 >>6968660 Well you can't get new glarus anywhere BUT Wisconsin. At least lakefront is slowly expanding.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 22:59:04 2015 No.6968679 >>6968673 I kind of doubt any state has as great out of state breweries selling there as Wisconsin

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 23:24:05 2015 No.6968747 File: 1.55 MB, 1952x2592, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Faggits

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 23:28:19 2015 No.6968767 >>6968747 Yuengling is terrible, and you should feel bad, its pretty much just budwieser with a little fake coloring to make it look classier

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 01:30:23 2015 No.6969043 >>6966151 this tastes like literal piss

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 02:26:09 2015 No.6969142 >>6961457 nice pour you fucking autist

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 02:28:20 2015 No.6969148 File: 592 KB, 1200x801, 38418643.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 03:17:16 2015 No.6969231 >>6964877 lmao beer is inherently flavored. drink water instead if you're not a sissy faggot

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 07:24:08 2015 No.6969536 >>6968660 Wisconsin has been distributing quite a bit more it seems. I feel like there are a couple new wisconsin beers in MN ever month or so.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 07:29:46 2015 No.6969546 >>6966142 Not really. To my knowledge autistic people don't drink or do drugs and pretty much sperge on anyone who talks about either.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 07:32:36 2015 No.6969552 >>6969546 This is pretty true.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 08:24:56 2015 No.6969648 >>6969546 true, board games club at my old uni literally had activities for non-drinkers on their pub crawl, only one to do so

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 08:51:16 2015 No.6969684 File: 473 KB, 600x706, tut.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] kek, ameridumbs thinking they can compete with thousands of years of brewing knowledge and tradition. Your beer is and always will be an average imitation at best.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 08:53:28 2015 No.6969687 i cant wait for this whole IPA meme do die down again

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 08:57:12 2015 No.6969696 >>6969687 The meme of hating them?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 09:29:34 2015 No.6969729 >>6969687 I'm not a fan of American IPAs, gotta admit. The approach seems to be "make it more bitter and more alcoholic", which is not synonymous with quality in my book.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 09:40:46 2015 No.6969753 File: 85 KB, 299x288, 1393696370913.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6961169 >the only thing of worth in the Midwest is maybe Chicago. >>6961169 >Here in SoCal

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 10:53:17 2015 No.6969858 >>6969729 That hasn't been the case for years

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 17:58:32 2015 No.6971006 File: 102 KB, 640x640, Almost Heaven with poured glass.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Honestly, I enjoyed this beer. Anyone else tried it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:35:41 2015 No.6971136 American beer is better nowadays but I wish the IPA craze would end already.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:38:42 2015 No.6971149 >Pilsners Why is this piss even a thing? Just call it what it is, piss. They all taste the fucking same.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:46:40 2015 No.6971174 >>6971149 I have yet to have a good pilsner made in the US, lagers in general are pretty poor here. German/Czech pilsners are good, though they do pretty much all taste similar.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:50:44 2015 No.6971186 >>6971149 Except they don't and are extremely refreshing while still having some complexity to them. >>6971174 Lagunitas Czech pils is pretty good, Schell's pils is good, Liftbridge has a decent one. Idk. Look a little harder.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 18:58:00 2015 No.6971205 >>6971186 Lagunitas pils is probably the best I've had in the US but still doesn't taste right. I'm not sure if its the water they are using or the malt that makes it taste off.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:10:57 2015 No.6971241 >>6971205 I think a lot of US pils are a little more malt forward surprisingly. They always taste a little fuller to me vs any European pils I've had. One that I hated was Victory's pils. It tasted like I was drinking a flower and it was awful.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:15:28 2015 No.6971253 >>6971241 It just doesn't taste balanced. If you think Victory pils tastes like a flower stay clear of Scrimshaw. North Coast Brewing Company makes a good stout, but a horrible pilsner.

Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:16:47 2015 No.6971261
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>>6960933
I don't know about producing "the best and most creative beer in the world," but I would concede that if you're a beer lover, the United States is probably the best country for you to live in right now.

>>6961029
I guess you got your wish, pic related. Shame though, that was great packaging.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:18:47 2015 No.6971267 >>6971253 Really? I have yet to be disappointed by North coast. I'll take your word though. And yeah I think Schell's makes the best us pilsener, but they're also a pretty old, traditional, german brewery.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 19:23:33 2015 No.6971285 >>6971267 Racking my brain, I can think of one American pils I liked more than Lagnitas, it was Trumer Pils.

Anonymous Tue Oct 13 22:55:38 2015 No.6971827

>>6960933
Probably not. 10 years ago though? Yeah. No one however can say they knew what phases the beer aficionado community would go through. Big barrel aged stouts, sours, triple IPAs, sours, session IPAs, and brett saisons are way bigger things now than they were 10 years ago.. No one could've predicted these trends. No one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:17:57 2015 No.6971877 >>6971827 I'm always curious what the next big style will be. Im going to say doppelbock just for the hell of it

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:26:38 2015 No.6971894 >>6971261 What a fucking joke about the breakfast stout label, big government politicians are the worst

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 13 23:28:24 2015 No.6971898 >>6969684 reminder that america was settled by europeans. The people too dumb and poor to make it to america have less claim over those old traditions than the ones who made the trip do

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 00:40:21 2015 No.6972045 >>6966131 >rouge >good Fucking shit babbys first craft tier garbage

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 03:12:56 2015 No.6972384 File: 1.05 MB, 2448x3264, ballast-point-fathom-ipl-e1393389684510.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] san diego confirmed god tier beer city, only other cities than can hold a light to them are portland oregon and philly

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 03:15:40 2015 No.6972389 >>6961590 What are those melon and grape ones? I like the labels.

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 06:31:56 2015 No.6972628

>>6972389
Mikkeller's "collab" aka phantom brew with Lindemans brewery. He essentially is just taking Lindeman's lambic and keeping it on the traditional style by not artificially sweetening it like lindemans does with their other fruit lambic. Just came across quite a few of these today actually. Some of them are actually quite good and others totally don't justify the price. Giving one a try isn't such a bad idea though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 06:51:38 2015 No.6972658 >>6971894 I just looked this up. That's dumb as hell. Oversensitive cunts complained I assume.

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 06:55:59 2015 No.6972662

>>6961590
>Problem with my buying is that I buy all this crazy rare expensive stuff and I save it for a "better" day. so then I just go buy a 6pk ipa and get drunk off that instead while all this intense sutff just sits

I feel you anon, I really do. I have ambitions of one day sharing my aged quadrupel and imperial stout collection with someone who will appreciate them ;_;

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 18:21:24 2015 No.6974149 >>6971877 I'm personally rooting for black lagers and black IPAs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 18:24:20 2015 No.6974158 >>6969684 Yes, because Americans aren't descended from these exact people I wish I could break your twig arms in half you European flyover

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 18:26:02 2015 No.6974166 >>6969142 >caring about a pour Autism u t i s m

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 18:29:17 2015 No.6974177 >>6972662 where you live? i'll come over and we shall drink!

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 18:36:21 2015 No.6974223 >>6961169 Texan who's moved to California here... Yep. You sure are a Californian alright.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 19:37:36 2015 No.6974414 >>6960933 I'm honestly surprised at the the margin in which the US is the best beer country. it's not even remotely close

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 19:40:06 2015 No.6974417 >>6962578 this. there are probably 300 american beers in existence right now that are better than any beer from anywhere else that isn't belgium and that's a fact

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 19:55:05 2015 No.6974466

>>6972384
We have a couple from Ballast Point where I am in small town Ohio. I really think the Dorado DIPA is the best, most well-balanced I've encountered. Sculpin and Grapefruit Sculpin are good too. We don't have the rest of the selection, but then again, small town.

Also, Green Flash > Stone.

I think SD has to be the most blessed beer city with those three.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 20:45:15 2015 No.6974646 >>6974417 >there are probably 300 american beers in existence right now that are better than any beer from anywhere else that isn't belgium and that's my subjective opinion ftfy

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 20:46:32 2015 No.6974652 >>6974646 I don't think that's what he meant to post

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 20:56:54 2015 No.6974706 >>6974646 yeah, Canada probably has 1 in there

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 20:57:55 2015 No.6974715 >>6969142 its called google images

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 21:59:54 2015 No.6974911 >>6961656 my nigga

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 23:18:23 2015 No.6975169 >>6972384 anaheim is probably number 1

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