Does /ck/ approve of keto? What do you think are the pros/cons of it?

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Anonymous Fri Oct 9 20:27:06 2015 No.6958479 [Reply] [Original]

Does /ck/ approve of keto? What do you think are the pros/cons of it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 9 20:30:44 2015 No.6958495 nice pic op thank u for sharing

Anonymous Fri Oct 9 20:32:26 2015 No.6958502

/fit/ here.

Great diet unless you have high colesterol.

Only valid complaints Ive heard frompeople are you feel a little more fatigued and have to cook more. But being as this is /ck/ we are already fatigued and love cooking. So its really a positive adventure.

I've been on keto for about a month now just trying to cut down a few extra lbs and its the best diet Ive ever tried and results come quickly as long as you adhere to the diet.

I do cardio/weight lifting and intermediate fasting as well (only eat from 10am - 6pm) and results have been pretty remarkable.

If you have any real interest, I hate to say it but head over to the hugbox and read the /r/keto FAQ and it really outlines it all for you and helps you to figure out your macros and all that pretty easily.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 9 20:37:11 2015 No.6958515 Pure fad diet

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 9 20:41:08 2015 No.6958525 >>6958479 ew those waists are disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 9 20:44:21 2015 No.6958538 >>6958479 >>6958502 This honestly should have been posted to /fit/ Im high as fuck and I thought I was browsing /fit/ before I saw weird non-normie replies

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 9 20:45:15 2015 No.6958543 File: 58 KB, 320x240, 8912-5459.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6958502 Actually it lowered my cholesterol and gave me more energy. Go figure.

Anonymous Fri Oct 9 20:49:35 2015 No.6958557

It, like Atkins and any low carb diet of the last 40 years, shows great short term results and is completely unsustainable in the medium and definitely long term.

If you want to lose weight fast and think you can shift from keto to a traditional healthy diet with vegetables, grains and moderation go for it. Long term if you think you can follow a diet that can be thrown off kilter by rice, potatoes, pasta and bread, which are the primary sources of energy for 99% of the world's population, I would advise against it. It can be done but it isn't easy and it isn't healthy. Haven't done it myself but people say you feel sluggish on it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 9 20:52:58 2015 No.6958564 >>6958525 What's it like being low test?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 9 20:53:42 2015 No.6958566 File: 48 KB, 429x377, Confused__.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6958557 What is short, medium and long terms? Long is obviously lifetime, aka 60-90 years. But is long months, or years? Is medium year or decade?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 9 20:54:59 2015 No.6958569 File: 19 KB, 208x210, 1388255897762.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can someone post a keto routine. It's literally impossible to not eat any carbs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 9 20:55:41 2015 No.6958572 It's a meme diet like the sriracha cleanse

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 9 21:02:09 2015 No.6958585 File: 38 KB, 500x667, 1362816067838.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6958479 Traps are normally posted on /b/

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 9 21:04:40 2015 No.6958592 fad diets are useless as shit. just have a varied diet consisting of mainly vegetables, some protein, good carbohydrates, good fats.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 9 21:05:49 2015 No.6958598 >>6958538 >Im high as fuck and I thought I was browsing /fit/ before I saw weird non-normie replies I'm drunk. HOLd me anona.`

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 9 21:06:45 2015 No.6958601 >>6958569 keto is a low carb diet not a no carb diet. most of your carbs in keto will come from any source that has high fiber carbs (vegies) and low shit carbs (chips, white bread)

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 9 21:07:27 2015 No.6958604 >>6958598 Get off the computer

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 9 21:08:49 2015 No.6958609 >>6958604 whyyn0m,

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 9 21:11:19 2015 No.6958623 File: 85 KB, 567x428, il_fullxfull.503343438_e4aa.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >not doing the calories under TDEE nutella and bread diet Shiggy diggy. Keto works too though.

Anonymous Fri Oct 9 21:18:19 2015 No.6958655

>>6958566
Short term is 1-6 months. The amount of time that any new hobby keeps your undivided interest. Medium term is .5 to 2 years. It's unlikely you'll keep up the dedicated war against carbs up for this long. Bread, rice, potatoes and pasta are everywhere. And for good reason too. I'm not even including things anyone losing weight should avoid. Ice cream, cakes, milkshakes or anything sweet.

Look at diet rationally. It's calories in v calories out. We try to get as many nutrients as possible without consuming more calories than we burn. Eliminating carbs is the worst way to go about this. None of the macronutrient groups should be excluded but carbs even more so.

Keto advises that we eat fat and protein as our primary source of energy. Both include foods that are so easy to over eat. A spoon of oil contains as many calories as a slice of whole grain bread. An extra spoon of oil is much easier to incorporate than another slice of bread which is also a lot more filling.

The reason why so many people lose weight on Keri initially is because they're still figuring out how to get their daily calories with their main source excluded. Eventually they figure out how to get their fill and also miss the staples like bread and it all crumbles down.

Anonymous Sat Oct 10 00:36:19 2015 No.6959243
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Don't like restricting my diet.
I prefer to eat whatever I want and just monitor it to keep it on the healthier side.
Just ate 600 grams of grapes.

If it works for others though, then that's great.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 00:43:04 2015 No.6959263 absolutely pants on head retarded not sustainable and you'll be either >back to fat after getting off a keto diet >mentally retarded if you stay on it basically low carb diets cut off glucose to your brain and starve it of energy.

Anonymous Sat Oct 10 01:06:54 2015 No.6959318

>>6958479

>>6958502
This.
Except I've lost 30lbs in 3 months. I don't do the fasting, really, but I've seen obese ppl lose insane amounts quickly. Like, friends and co-workers. I've SEEN it work. It's pretty nuts.
And you get to eat good food. Oh, and I do absolutely no workout. If you want to workout you need to bump your protein intake, but if you want to be lazy... then you just eat less. Pretty much like any other diet: eat less than what you're burning daily.
The payoff with this diet is that you change your metabolism to burn fat instead of carbs/sugar (not body fat, but fat that you are eating). So cheese and other fatty dairy products, fatty meats, etc MAKE YOU FEEL FULL, so it doesn't feel like you are starving yourself.
Check the hugbox if you don't have any friends to guide you.

Anonymous Sat Oct 10 01:10:50 2015 No.6959334

>>6959318
Correction: I HAVE lost that weight in 3 months. I put a bunch of it back on last winter, kind of pigging out. Dropped most of it again pretty easily.
I've been off since the beginning of September and I've maintained my weight. I'm drinking a bunch of beer, but I'm a bit more active. This person here? >>6959263 is pants on head ignorant.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 01:15:37 2015 No.6959353 >>6959318 >>6959334 honestly if you lost 30lbs in 3 months you sound massive he was probably talking about normal sized people

Anonymous Sat Oct 10 01:30:21 2015 No.6959387

>>6959353
I was 212. Should be at 175.
I definitely falls off faster the more overweight you are. I was down something like 15 pounds the first month. Took 2 more to lose 15 more.
And you have to keep cutting as you lose more weight.
Doesn't change the fact that you feel full by eating fat.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 01:32:36 2015 No.6959396 >>6958479 What is keto?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 01:33:06 2015 No.6959397 >>6959353 I was cutting really hard at the end of it. Like 1100-1300 calories per day. It's not easy, it's just easier.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 01:35:28 2015 No.6959401 >>6959396 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketogenic_diet then https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-carbohydrate_diet then check out keto boards on gasp reddit

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 01:35:44 2015 No.6959403 Disgusting waist training weirdness.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 01:43:32 2015 No.6959429 >>6959401 >gasp Don't do that

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 01:50:44 2015 No.6959439 >>6959243 post your tits now whore

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 01:51:59 2015 No.6959444 >>6959429 gasp Why not, faggot?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 01:54:17 2015 No.6959449 what should my BF eat to get a bigger butt

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 01:57:51 2015 No.6959457 works but don't do it a as lifestyle, shit is hard on your kidneys and long term can fuck you up, as well as being hideously expensive. it's mostly a gimmick that works for very specific purposes

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 02:01:38 2015 No.6959462 >>6958479 WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH HER WAIST

Anonymous Sat Oct 10 02:02:27 2015 No.6959465

>>6959449

Squats and oats

>>6958655
fat and protein are way way more filling than carbs, that's why it's so easy to overeat carbs and hence the evil carb reputation. fat and protien make your stomach send satiety signal to brain 100x faster than bread. Don't believe me? wait until you are all-fired hungry like a wolf, eat a cracker, wait 10 minutes, see how you feel. then have a tablespoon of heavy cream(in tea or something whatever) and notice nearly instant difference.

or drink a pint of heavy cream in one go- you won't be hungry for a day and a half, I guarantee it

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 02:02:27 2015 No.6959466 >>6959457 to lose weight not for poor fags your anecdotal evidence is worthless shit, too

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 02:04:11 2015 No.6959467 >>6959465 you're much more succinct than I am. I'll let you field this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 02:16:15 2015 No.6959486 >>6959466 I didn't present any evidence? >are you nu 2 science friend

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 02:18:47 2015 No.6959490 >>6959462 nothing? she's a reasonably fit human female doing poses and camera angles to do her best impression of a pencil sharpener, but if she stood up straight and put on clothes you wouldn't think twice, she's pleasantly fit but totally normal

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 02:24:19 2015 No.6959495 >>6958479 >>6959243 No butthole, not interested.

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Anonymous Sat Oct 10 03:17:01 2015 No.6959567

Keto done probably isn't a weight loss program. It's to enhance your overall health by ensuring your cells are properly coated with fat. Which they probably aren't if you've been getting most of your calories from carbs your whole life.

Most people fuck it up by just eating meat and cream, and getting insufficient vegetables. You need to continue getting a large quantity of a wide variety of vegetables for complete nutrition, and that can be tough because it makes it harder to keep carbs down.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 03:36:29 2015 No.6959589 it's a scam, dangerous on the long run, but even teh defenders cheat at eat so they can pretend it's "healthy".

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 03:49:45 2015 No.6959594 >>6959589 "Cheat at eat," my ass. There's nothing easy about such a restrictive diet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 04:14:35 2015 No.6959611 >>6959548 >that gorilla track wew lad >dirty ho wash yo ass

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 04:15:55 2015 No.6959613 >>6959567 >s to enhance your overall health by ensuring your cells are properly coated with fat ROFLMAO

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 06:20:25 2015 No.6959728 >>6958479 you are what you eat and that ass is FAT

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 06:51:38 2015 No.6959752 Keto was good for me except never being hungry was kind of depressing Keto gave my dad terrible gout

Anonymous Sat Oct 10 08:12:17 2015 No.6959839

I'm gonna be one of those arseholes and sing it's praises.
I've slowly transitioned onto it almost as a full time lifestyle change.
After a month I lost all bloat and water retention, I see food as fuel now and meals take minutes to cook with little prep.
Breakfast - Eggs and bacon as an omlette with spinach and peas or watermelon
Lunch - Tuna, cottage cheese and boiled eggs
Evening - Fish poached in tomato sauce served with broccolli and other mixed veg.

These meals are examples but breakfast and lunch are always the same, evening meal changes up slightly with pork chops or steak, hot dogs in lettuce 'buns'.
I season well so they don't taste bland.

I still crave carbs from time to time but when once I could eat a huge 16" pizza in basically one sitting I can only manage a few slices of pizza and I feel rammed. Same with sandwiches - two slices of bread will fill me for almost a whole day.

I also drink only water and green tea, I have a pot of coffee around 3 times a week. A glass of no sugar pop when I fancy one (about once a fortnight or after drinking).

The only con and thing I found hard to adjust to is no beer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 08:15:36 2015 No.6959845 >>6958479 What does keto have to do with that attractive bottom?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 08:18:06 2015 No.6959850 >>6959845 High fat ass.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 08:24:55 2015 No.6959861 >>6958479 hhhhhhhhhnnnnnnnnnnnnngggg

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 08:26:08 2015 No.6959864 >>6959839 How long have you been on it? How is it in terms of money?

Anonymous Sat Oct 10 08:29:46 2015 No.6959871

>>6959864
FAR cheaper for me. I'm in bongland if that means anything.
I live off bagged frozen veggies and fish. I buy fresh meat as and when. Around £30 shop twice a month. I found I was buying way more shit than I needed.

I've been doing it for around a year now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 08:33:13 2015 No.6959878 >>6959263 >basically low carb diets cut off glucose to your brain and starve it of energy. And yet keto diets are prescribed by properly trained doctors to patients suffering seizures. A problem with the brain. Go figure.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 08:33:32 2015 No.6959879 >>6959871 I'm in bongland too big thanks for the info based anon, sounds very attractive I'm not particularly attached to carb rich staple food, and I don't drink beer, so it seems viable

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 08:35:49 2015 No.6959883 >>6959878 >seizures caused by impulses from the brain >neural generation of action impulses requires energy >diet decreases amount of energy the brain gets yep, go figure

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 08:37:11 2015 No.6959884 >>6959871 also, forgot to ask, how are you feeling in terms of energy, especially during long days and long periods of activity and how is your sleep (if changed)

Anonymous Sat Oct 10 08:41:47 2015 No.6959895

>>6959879
Try it, It's great.
I get all my frozen veg from Tesco (range from 80p - £2 each (about 500g-1kg bags depending what you get))
And their frozen fish fillets (about £1.50 for a weeks worth).
Lidl and Aldi for fresh produce and lunch items (£1 for 15 eggs fuck yeah + tinned tuna (which is so high quality it's like tuna steak))

>>6959884
I've always slept little and feel groggy after more than 7 hours sleep. Around 6 is perfect for me.
I have far more energy now and it's more balanced across the day. I work an active job and was coming home from work, filling myself with carbs and crashing about 8pm bloated and sleepy.
I wake at 5am, go running, put my breakfast on the hob while I shower, eat, go to work for 8, come home at 5, prep tea, that cooks while I shower again, eat then play vidya or shitpost here from 7pm - midnight.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 08:44:55 2015 No.6959899 >>6959895 Welp, I've been convinced

Anonymous Sat Oct 10 08:49:20 2015 No.6959906

>>6959899
As I said originally, I'm going to sound like one of those dickheads but honestly It's changed my life. It's amazing.
You sound like you can manage it though, you wont have as bad carb cravings in the first couple of weeks.
That was about the hump for me, after that you see differences in your body and appearance, you feel less bloated, stop grunting when you lean over, sweating as much and less out of breath.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 10:30:55 2015 No.6960079 >>6959906 How's the no/very little fruit thing? That one, I'm kind of worried about, because I really enjoy fruit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 10:35:45 2015 No.6960088 File: 242 KB, 1300x1081, apple-licker-1608523.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6960079 Instead of eating the fruits, just lick it.

Anonymous Sat Oct 10 10:43:58 2015 No.6960119

>>6960079
Different anon- I'm full paleo, so related to keto. Fruit is okay in moderation, but should be thought of as treats due to the sugars.

The real benefit of this style of lifestyle change is that your tastebuds change. I used to down two or three HUGE apples in one go, now I am fine with one small one. Our bodies become much more adapted to telling us when to stop, so overeating actually becomes harder.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 10:52:08 2015 No.6960136 >>6960088 kek >>6960119 sounds similar to what >>6959839 was saying about sandwiches I can probably deal with it, though (i hope) Thanks for the info

Anonymous Sat Oct 10 12:45:37 2015 No.6960389

I did it consistently for several months leading up to my 21st birthday.

First few months weight loss was slow until I finally got the hang of it. I am 5'6 and went from 180 down to 160lbs over the course of ~2 months or so leading up to birthday. Figured I could take a cheat day for my 21st, NBD.

Went out with friends, got fucking hammered out of my mind. Woke up next day at like 5am with no hangover to speak of since I puked it all up the night before. As such, I was hungry as fuck and killed a large pizza I had in the fridge from day prior I bought as a hangover cure.

TLDR Stopped keto-ing for a bit, gained a few pounds back but didnt think much of it. Next thing I know I am eating a fairly normal diet again here I am 1 year later and I weight about 185.

Been trying to get back on it, and am slowly but surely.

It sucks though, having my 22nd birthday coming up in a few days and still being fat, because down at 160 I was actually looking pretty good as I have a decent amount of muscle mass. Could have been shredded by now. The thing thats frustrating is I carry my weight in such a way that I dont look fat. Its just sort of soft around the edges, never shows up on my arms or face so when I am dressed its like hey I look good, when I am not its like... oh. Diets aside, I have my own self control issues I need to work on, but had I stayed on keto I would have been shredded by now.

TLDR Worked for me over a couple months. Gained weight back I lost when on it. Trying to restart, and stick to it for a year and see what happens after that.

Almost healthy weight by 21, fat again at 22, lets make this the year and be on my way to making it as /fit/ would say by 23.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 19:21:31 2015 No.6961437 >>6958479 Post dick faggot

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 19:22:42 2015 No.6961441 >I'm a man >I'm on a diet kill yourselves fad diet homosexuals

Anonymous Sat Oct 10 21:01:28 2015 No.6961771

i do it 'cause of my type 2 diabetes.

i don't have health insurance, so i can't afford meds. good thing a strict diet will keep my blood sugar low.

i ate a 1/2 pound bean and cheese from del taco. my blood sugar 1 hour later: 180 mg/dl. yikes.

my blood sugar after eating a 500 calorie keto meal: 90 mg/dl. this is a perfect number, couldn't be better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 22:19:28 2015 No.6962066 Fucking fad diets. Plebs gonna pleb I guess.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 22:22:21 2015 No.6962073 File: 284 KB, 400x225, 1434423295569.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6959444 Embarrassing tbh.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 22:28:51 2015 No.6962091 >>6958479 the diet itself is fine the people who actually believe the "scientific" theory behind it are morons and might as well wear tinfoil hats

Anonymous Sun Oct 11 04:09:30 2015 No.6962834
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>>6958655
>it's a bad diet because most people suck at keeping to a diet

no shit

I've been on it for 3 years. I've literally turned my doctor's opinion about it 180 degrees and my cholesterol has never been lower. Best decision of my life.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 05:00:31 2015 No.6962906 First few days of it suck

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 07:56:16 2015 No.6963145 >>6958479 Be careful with alcohol if your doing keto, with little carbs in your system, alcohol hits you way harder. Just drink like your a 125 lb chick Found out the hard way

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 08:11:59 2015 No.6963166 >>6959243 Post tits so I can make my pee pee feel funny.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 08:21:24 2015 No.6963178 >>6960389 Are you me? except add 2 years.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 08:23:04 2015 No.6963182 I pretty much exclusively eat poultry and fish at this point, like vegetarianism I feel I would get bored on said diet. I eat a lot less carbs now than I used to though, but it would be damn near impossible for me to completely cut down.

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