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6883618 No.6883618 [Reply] [Original]

Do you ever make an effort to eat food from your "muh heritage" country out of tribal loyalty?

Basically, if I'm to have self-respect, I must respect anything that is mine.
But fuck me if it isn't hard to respect Irish food. I like strong, strange flavours.

Colcannon seems like the only way to redeem mashed potato.

There's also a dried seaweed snack called "dillisk" which most Irishmen have never heard of. That ticks all my boxes: exotic, strange, rare, interesting. Going import some to work it into seafood dishes.

>> No.6883620

>>6883618
I love colcannon. That being said, how do you think it would work with giblet gravy? I ask because I've thought of making colcannon for Thanksgiving and my in-laws are all about mash with giblet gravy.

>> No.6883621
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>>6883618
>"dillisk"
Pic related.

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>>6883620
Not all that familiar with giblet gravy, but, off the top of my head, I suggest working some of the colcannon greens into boxty, which is basically a potato pancake.

>> No.6883647
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>>6883621
And here's the dish that gave me the seafood idea.

Pretty sure it's not traditional, but I can pretend it is while ostentatiously introducing my meal to my guests.

>> No.6883648

American with Russian heritage. I shoot vodka and eat pickled herring quite often. My friends think I'm insane.

I also have German heritage, but I think my brother embodies that. He's an antisemite.

>> No.6883650
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6883650

Pic related is something I tried, simply because my dad's Greek and I figured I should give the food while I was in the country a shot.

Imagine my surprise when I not only liked it, but loved it and had seconds. I was maybe 14-15 at the time. Stuff's fucking great.

>> No.6883655

>>6883618
>>6883648
Lmao. Americans yet again appropriating other cultures, since they don't have their own.

Why do you take pride in something that isn't your own?

>> No.6883660

>>6883620

of course it would work bro it would be delicious, the bitterness and texture of the kale/cabbage against the saltiness of the gravy would be bangin

>> No.6883661

>>6883655
OP here. I'm a 100% Irish expat in Europe.

>> No.6883665

>>6883650

fucking tarama is unbelievably good dude

>> No.6883671

>>6883661
Exception granted.

Although that aside, I think a misguided sense of national pride is fairly annoying too.

In any case, as an actual irishman, it must annoy you to see americans claiming to be irish-american?

>> No.6883673
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>>6883655
Because I have the freedom to appreciate my heritage. In Europe, I would be beheaded in the street for not practicing Sharia law.

>> No.6883686

>>6883673
>responding to a valid point with the latest of epic memes.

I rest my case. America, everyone.

>> No.6883687

>>6883671
It can be a little tiresome when they are indistinguishable from the descendants of Englishmen, Germans or Scots. I don't have a problem with children of recent immigrants maintaining a connection, or grandchildren who are at least half Irish. It's not like it's a social club.

>> No.6883695

>>6883686
In all seriousness though, It's because I respect the shit out of my grandfather. Motherfucker was a cavalry officer in WW1. Ended up getting forced out of Russia after the October revolution and going to the states. I also am studying the language in school. Eventually going to declare it as a minor.

>> No.6883701

>>6883695
>>6883695
I just don't think there's anything wrong with identifying as an american. All credit to your grandfather, and I understand the term 'american' can carry it's own negative connotations, but the same could be said for any country.

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Another Irish speciality: drisheen (blood sausage) and tripe.
I think I'll borrow the basic technique from tripes a la mode de caen and sneak the drisheen in.
Not sure what to do with the drisheen, though. I've only ever fried blood pudding, which has grain in it. This stuff looks like solid protein.

>>6883695
Sounds solid.

>> No.6883709

>>6883701
I still completely identify as an american though. I think this is the greatest place on earth. I do it to show respect to how I got here. Plus, vodka and pickled herring taste pretty good.

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>>6883618
Not really. Well, apart from holidays and the likes obviously.

But I'm Swedish and we I don't think we really have all that much "traditional" food that is still eaten. At least not something that is specifically Swedish in nature since all Nordic countries pretty much eat the same things.

>>6883709
You eat pickled herring just on it's own?

>> No.6883733

>>6883725
I eat it with bread or crackers usually as a snack or light meal, kind of like sardines.

>> No.6883741

>>6883725
What's wrong with eating pickled herring on its own? I can't get enough of that heavenly treat

>> No.6883769

>>6883733
That's fine then.

>>6883741
I don't know. Just feels a bit wired since I've pretty much always eaten/seen it eaten along with something.

>> No.6883810

>>6883618
I'm from Spain so obviously.

>> No.6883877

I was just having some lasagna and wondering, do Italians uno in Italy just eat fucking pasta and bread and shit all the time...all Italian restaurants have is real heavy meals...don't they ever just have a bologna sandwitch or something?

>> No.6883888

Yes, but my ancestry is from Sichuan province in China so I guess I lucked out. Food from there is so fucking good, my mouth just salivates from just thinking about that shit. Fuck, I'm hungry now.

>> No.6883909

>>6883618
Italian here. I fucking love pasta and mediterranean cuisine. No effort needed.
You should delve deeper and find recipes that you actually like.

>> No.6883928

>>6883725
shows what you know

>> No.6883937

>>6883928
What?

>> No.6883987

>>6883660
thanks, mang!

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6883999

i wouldn't call it tribal loyalty but my dad's heritage does give me an interest in hungarian food. i'd love to make fisherman's soup, and it's a little more viable now that i live closer to the coast.

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>>6883999
no wonder you're always so hungary anon!
>be me
>make funny

>> No.6884029

Chinaman here

Everything from my heritage so far has been pretty good nothing nasty as fuck as of yet

>> No.6884052

>>6883687
(not the guy you replied to)
Admittedly since i'm quite the "melange" when it comes to my european heritage i try to embrace it all, i like to think that is AMERICAN, embracing all of it not just your "favorite" i guess you would say. But i can identify those who family is traditional (italians, greeks, etc)

>> No.6884117
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6884117

I fucking love Persian food and my grandmother would spend entire days cooking it but now she's dead (and never spoke English in the first place), my dad never learned anything from her, and the internet is scarce of decent recipes.

>> No.6884142

>>6884117
Find an old cookbook in the native language. I need to go find my grandmother's old cookbooks too.

>> No.6884241

No I actually like the food.
Cabbage rolls and Perogies are GOAT

>> No.6884275

>>6884117
Why do Americans say Persian? Is it because of the current tensions with Iran making it unfavourable to use?

>> No.6884299

>>6884275
I don't know for sure but Persia was the English name for the region for a very long time, only after WWII did we start referring to it as Iran. And my father who was born there tends to refer to the culture and language as Persian (or Farsi) over Iranian. My guess there is that "Persia" holds much more historical prestige as a name and from my experience people from there are fiercely proud of that reputation.

>> No.6884316

>>6884275
>>6884299
Sort of.
See, from 1959 to 1979, under the rule of King Mohammad Ramalamadingdong (don't remember his middle name) Pahlavi, Iran was officially declared "Persia," which is the natively European/Western name for the nation. He did this in an attempt to modernise/westernise his nation. In the native languages of the area, it was /always/ called 'Iran' or some cognate of it and never Persia.
This single act was one of the things that lead to the Islamic Uprising of 1979 (not to mention general political unrest, lack of stability and anti-intellectualism strongly prevalent in the Middle East and North Africa at the time, even continuing to this day).

The majority of refugees from the country went to Western nations. Though Muslim, these refugees weren't generally terribly religious sorts and, more often than not, were either simply culturally Muslim (IE they won't eat pork and hold some strongly held gender role ideas, but they don't observe the Eids, the fasts, the daily prayers and other things required by Islam), Westernised or simply irreligious altogether.

As such, many of them arriving in the West called themselves, their culture, their language and, indeed, their cuisine "Persian" in order to distance themselves from the new regime and from fundamentalism in general.

So while yes, it was politically motivated, it wasn't a moniker necessarily placed upon them by Americans but one they chose for themselves.

I've yet to meet a single person who moved to my country from over there in the later 70s or early 80s or anyone descended from them who is remotely religious. Irreligion or general apathy towards religion is extremely common among the diaspora. Same with most Iraqis (I know one who is religious) who moved abroad during the Ba'ath revolution, too, actually.

Also, to >>6884299:
Your family's pretty irreligious, aren't they?

>> No.6884326

>>6883618
I don't really have any "tribal loyalty" when it cones to food. But I do have lots of German in my background, and I enjoy German food.

>> No.6884328

>>6884316
>Your family's pretty irreligious, aren't they?
Yeah, my dad is a fedora-level atheist though my mom is white and Catholic. The only religious Iranian I've ever met was an Assyrian Christian.
But this is starting to get a little bit away from cooking.

>> No.6884331

>>6883769
If I have crackers I'll use them, but if not that herring is being eaten regardless

>> No.6884507

>>6883618
Lol that's fucking stupid.

>> No.6884512

>>6883655
> they don't have their own
You just think that because it saturates your life.

Feel free to leave this American website if you really feel that way though.

>> No.6884529

>>6884507
Why?

>> No.6884535

>>6883618
no basically all filipino food is shit, except for vegetable lumpia.

>> No.6884539

I eat Polish food quite often but I'm not a fan of it. It's all really bland and boring. If I were not Polish I probably would eat it very very rarely and probably only perogies.

>> No.6884725

I'm Chinese and shit is easy.

Mapo tofu was the first dish I ever learned how to make.

>> No.6884732

>>6883621
looks like dulse, i eat that stuff straight up.

>> No.6884742

eating ancestral food is good for you

i'm a mutt but german influence is very strong in my family. I mostly eat meats, dairy, and preserved vegetables

>> No.6884785

I'm from Utah.

I do in fact make funeral poatoes, scones (fried bread dough), fry sauce, and plenty of jello desserts.

But I think it's more 'cause I grew up with those things and sincerely enjoy them.

>> No.6884811

>>6883655
because that is what american culture means
it's a melting pot of cultures, hundreds of them resulting in what is made fun off a lot of the time
and especially in the culinary field it's actually pretty respectable
kinda like the british

>> No.6885174

>>6883618
It's easy for me because, even though I'm American, I'm 100% Greek. My dad was born in Crete and my grandparents on my mom's side of the family were born in Greece, plus my parents are fluent in Greek.

What also makes it easy is the fact that my dad was a chef. Here are some Greek foods that I had before in my childhood (homemade, no Gyros):

Spanakopita
Tiropita
Kalitsounia
Gigantes Plaki
Saganaki
Pastitsio
Moussaka
Dolmades
Souvlaki
Gemista
Taramasalata
Melitzanosalata
Loukaniko
Dakos
Skordalia
Tzatziki
Loukoumades
Koulourakia
Tsoureki


>>6884275
Persian is the name of the people of Iran. Iranian is a generic term for people in the same family of ethnic groups. Persians, Tajiks, Pashtuns, etc. are Iranian peoples.

>> No.6885446

I'm mostly dutch and eating that shit all the time would kill me very quickly

Once in a while I will make some croquettes or something along those lines

>> No.6885457

I like to chug maple syrup from time to time. Pea soup is good too.

>> No.6885488

>>6883618
Considering I don't really know much about my heritage except for that my great-grandmother on my dad's side was apparently from Germany, I don't really have this issue.

I've tried many types of German dishes and I can say with certainty that they have fucking shit food.

>> No.6885492

>>6883655
How's that sharia law working out for you ?

>> No.6885496

>first colonists in america fought tooth and nail against the Brits to call themselves american and become their own country
>centuries later their obese fedora wearing descendants eat food they don't actually enjoy to be more "in touch with their heritage"

If we hooked up generators to the rolling dead bodies of the original Americans we could solve the energy crisis

>> No.6885502

i eat white trash and tex mex at least once a week, each

i always have a jar of miracle whip and a bowl of pintos/refries in my fridge

>> No.6885525

My grandmother emigrated to US from Germany when she was a child, and my grandfather was a 1st generation American from a German family. The only way we honor this is by cooking sauerbraten (my Grammy's recipe) for Christmas dinner every year with spaetzle and red cabbage on the side.

Also, I firmly believe that my German heritage explains my love for cabbage, potatoes, and beer.

>> No.6885533

>>6883618
no but im of mexican heritage, i live in california, i like mexican food, and it's everywhere.

>> No.6885594

I have a drop of Native American blood so every once in a while I'll eat corn I guess. No bugs though.

>> No.6885623

I'm Greek and I am so over Greek food after family cooking over 20 years. Sometimes when they cook traditional Greek dishes I just eat a cheese sammich. It's not that I don't like Greek cooking, it's great, just too much too often I'm so over it.