/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.6846445]

Theory:

Lettuce and tomato have no place in an Italian sub.

Roasted red peppers only. And onions. Maybe olive too but not required.

[Anonymous No.6846446]

>>6846445
sliced tomato has no place anywhere near bread

[Anonymous No.6846450]

>>6846446
Raw tomato has no place. The texture is pig disgusting

[Anonymous No.6846470]

Pickled pepperoncini would be good.

[Anonymous No.6846473]

>>6846445
Ask an Italian.

[Anonymous No.6846479]

>eating Italian subs

[Anonymous No.6846489]

>>6846470
oooooh that's a good one. pickled peppers go very well with salty spicy meats

[Anonymous No.6846737]

>>6846445

I would agree. I feel like L&T are usually just thrown into a sandwich with no regard for whether they actually work in it

[Anonymous No.6846756]

americans and their sandwiches

what are you like

[Anonymous No.6846777]

Je suis d'Italie.

We don't have any sandwiches with white lettuce in them. Usually, we put roquette. Or spinach. Or broccoli leaves. Pic related: it's a cheese cutlet sandwich with roquette.

That said, I like American sandwiches with lettuce and tomato.

[Anonymous No.6846788]

>>6846777
>cheese cutlet

[Anonymous No.6846793]

>>6846445
>onions
>olives

[Anonymous No.6846797]

>>6846793
Global Rule 2

[Anonymous No.6846810]

>>6846445
IIt really depends on the quality of meat and cheese used to make the sandwich. If you've stumbled across an Italian-American joint in New York or CT that uses top quality meat and cheese vegetable matter (aside from maybe roasted peppers) is indeed gilding the lily. There will already be more than enough flavor going on in the sandwich without muddling things up with lettuce, tomato and onion.

That said, I would argue the Italian hoagie in the form it exists around the Philly/South Jersey area is a work of art' on its own. When the sandwich is made with supermarket grade cold cuts the addition of thinly sliced onion, lettuce and tomato, maybe some pickled hot pepper all dressed in oil, vinegar and a sprinkle of dried oregano is brilliant. It covers up the cheapness of the ham and the fact pepperoni has been substituted for hot capicola.

tl;dr How much salad adds to or takes away from the sandwich is directly related to the quality of the meat and cheese used to make it.

[Anonymous No.6846871]

>>6846810
i want an italian sub now. it really is a work of art and definitely in the sandwich hall of fame

[Anonymous No.6846876]

>>6846777
muh dick

[Anonymous No.6848977]

>italians
>good food

[Anonymous No.6848983]

>fatties hate vegetables
big surprise

[Anonymous No.6848984]

>>6848977
Oh come on we're not THAT dark dude.

[Anonymous No.6849026]

>>6846871
In America It was the Italians who capitalized on the French bread craze of the early 20th Century, So it's no surprise they did it particularly well.

[Anonymous No.6849158]

>>6846445
I agree 100%.

[Anonymous No.6849181]

>>6848977
most 'haute cuisine' is based on french recipes, almost all of which are bastardizations of 1400-1600's proto-italian food.

[Anonymous No.6849683]

I dunno, man, I just kinda like lettuce and tomatoes in most of my sandwiches. I guess I don't care if it's "authentic italian" or not.

Seems like a lot of people get awful worked up on the matter... But, I guess if that's what they enjoy doing after work, then that's just as good as whatever I feel like doing after work.

[Anonymous No.6849685]

>>6846450
no you

[Anonymous No.6849966]

>>6848984
Southerners can be, especially Sicilians and people from Reggio Calabria. Most of my brothers and I were born in the mid-south but we're of Northern stock, so we're all quite pale in comparison to others born in my region/province.
One brother is a red-head and so light-skinned, he might as well be transparent. Another is blond and similarly pale. I'm the only one with darker hair (medium brown, though with a red beard) but am just as pallid as the rest.

>>6849181
>almost all
Pretty sure all of them are. Prior to the Medicis marrying into French royalty, French cuisine was simple pottages and stews with little seasoning and few aromatics. So disgusting was Caterina with French cuisine of the time that she insisted on her personal cook from Florence to travel to Versailles and teach the culinary savages how to cook.
Similar things happened with the Sforzas and the various royal Houses of Slavic Europe, particularly Poland (Bona Sforza was disgusted with Polish cuisine and brought her own cook with her). Though not Slavic, Hungary also learned considerably from Italians.

Italy has had the most influence on European culinary history, however Portugual has had the most culinary influence altogether. Portugal is by far the most influential country for world cuisine on earth, bringing chillies to Asia and Africa, spices back from Asia to Europe, cake-baking and tempura to Japan, black tea to the English, green tea to the North Africans, peanuts to southeast Asia, beans back to Europe from the New World and more.

[Anonymous No.6850173]

>>6846777
Do want.
You....you, I like.

[Anonymous No.6850183]

>>6846810
Pretty much this.

I enjoy all kinds of vegetables on sandwiches, but if it's a quality Italian sub, I don't need anything but maybe some peppers on it.
There's a god tier Italian deli near me that makes killer subs, and they don't add anything to them but some peppers. On their cold subs, you can ask for extra vegetables like tomato and lettuce, etc, but you have to request it. They won't add anything extra to their hot subs, even if you ask them, which is fine by me. They don't need it. The owner is kind of an asshole, but only when someone pisses him off (your typical Italian-American hot head).

[Anonymous No.6850244]

>>6849966
hey, is there any good books you could suggest about world culinary history? i've read the "personal chef to versailles" anecdote before, but knew nothing on portugal's worldwide influence. v. curious

[Anonymous No.6850252]

>>6846777
Oh man that looks divine

[Spoony love from up Above No.6850267]

>>6846445
>sub
If you are an Italian Combo Nazi then this is the fucking rule.
>1.Oil and Vinegar on the bread. Oil on top, vinegar on the bottom.
Mayo tastes better to alot of people, but fuck that. Nazi rules means only O&V
>Sesame seed hero bread only
not a bad rule
>Shredded lettuce,roasted red peppers, ham,salami,pepperoni,and provolone cheese will be the innards
Some snobby guidos would waste something like prosciutto on this sandwich. Avoid them at all costs.
>Diagonal cut down the center and wrap it up

>Dont cut it like subway 180 degrees vertically.That's just silly.

So that is the bare bones nazi style hero you would find in NY,and NJ. Italian shit horde of the world. And some places will dress you down verbally if you ask for it differently than that.

[Anonymous No.6850269]

>>6850267
>oil on top vinegar on the bottom
The definition of autism everyone.

[Anonymous No.6850274]

>>6850183
Yep. But I still think it's amazing that you can get a passable example from a gas station like Wawa as long as you load it up with salad, oil, vinegar and oregano. Not the same as a quality example, but it shows the power of the form.

And to think that's just the product of Italian Americans jumping on the French bread craze of the early 20th Century.

[Anonymous No.6850275]

eh lettuce and tomato works

[Spoony love from up Above No.6850294]

>>6850269
>it plainly says "Nazi" style
plz go back to /b/

[Anonymous No.6850852]

>>6846445
>shredded lettuce
rather snip off some pubes and throw it on a sandwhich

[Anonymous No.6850908]

>>6846445
There is plenty of place for tomatoes on an Italian sub if you put them on first. Only when the pile gets too high is there no place.

[Anonymous No.6851063]

going to a real italian deli for lunch. what should i get? i'm thinking #10

[Anonymous No.6851076]

>>6851063
#9 on sourdough

[Anonymous No.6851085]

>>6851076
soft roll or sliced?

[Anonymous No.6851087]

>>6851085
Either way.

[Anonymous No.6851695]

>>6846446
>>6846450

came here to post this.

tomaotes can fuck well off in sandwiches.

it's like a slimy sour booger in your food

[Anonymous No.6851773]

>>6846450
>>6846450

[Anonymous No.6852225]

>>6846446
Tomato is the most important part of the sandwich after the meat and bread.

[Anonymous No.6852251]

>>6846445
Tomato is fine if it actually has flavor, shredded lettuce however shouldn't exist; it just melts into the bread.