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6832435 No.6832435[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

>if it's pink it must be wholesome
>if you don't eat meat for every meal you'll instantly die of protein deficiency
>pasture raised animals are a PETA conspiracy
>meat other than tenderloin or chicken breast is yucky
>something that's too infected to eat raw is ok to eat cooked
>eating vegetables once a week is enough

>> No.6832500
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6832500

>>6832435
>Implying I give a fuck

>> No.6832507

>carnists
How to get booted from /ck/, Vol. 1

>> No.6832520

>>6832507
Unfortunately, no board on 4chan has a reliable system for instantly removing the most virulent shitposters.

>> No.6832537

>>6832507
>why do girls pretend to like steak
>how do I make money cam whoring as a food fetishist
>some fat guy screaming on youtube
>shake shack thread #349
>fast food greentext stories
>95% of threads bugs bunny meta shitposting thread
Yes, it's totally unacceptable to discuss carnism around here, we have much more important things to spend our energy arguing about

>> No.6832597

>>6832507
you have got to be kidding. the vegan mod would never delete this thread.
wake up

>> No.6832601

>>6832537
If you want to discuss the mundane practice of eating animals, try a better name than "carnism".

>> No.6832605

>>6832435
>carnists
So is this the new PC word for "omnivore"? Like what normal human beings are?

>> No.6832619

>>6832537
>discuss

You don't really want to discuss it, though, you just want to make up weird, unsourced claims about what people who eat meat believe. Then you want to cry when meat eaters reply with weird, unsourced claims about what vegans believe.

But you have a point, even a shit vegan thread is better than a lot of what /ck/'s got going right now.

>> No.6832627

>'carnist'
Why do you faggots feel the need to label normal people like this? Same with the word 'cis'. It's normal to name the exception, not the rule.

>> No.6832647

>>6832507
>>6832520

oh man, if only we had a system of upvotes or something

>> No.6832653

>>6832627
gotta make yourself feel better about being a freak

>> No.6832678

I don't mind vegans, as long as they shut the fuck up and eat their shitty soy tufo whatever, without lecturing me about how eating meat makes me some kind of murderer.

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>>6832435
>the millionth rehashment

>> No.6832711

>>6832605
What are you talking about bro.

An omnivore eats everything.

I'm an omnivore

A carnist is afraid that eating a salad is getting Defeated by PETA(tm)

Most of /ck/ is carnist

A few of us are omivores

>> No.6832716

>>6832435
Are vegans the new jesusfreaks? As in, nobody really minds them or gives a fuck as long as they aren't trying to lecture you about eating meat or praising Jesus?

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>>6832711
>Most of /ck/ is carnist
There's no way that's true.

>> No.6832733

>>6832711

I don't mean to be a troll, but would it actually be possible to survive off meat alone? I mean zero vegetables/fruit. Anything else exists solely for the meat such as a fat for frying or spices/salt for seasoning

>> No.6832739

>>6832711
That's what I'm asking, is a "carnist" just a label for normies or is it genuinely someone who eats nothing but meat?

>> No.6832746

>>6832733
>I've been eating frozen "meat lovers pizzas" for the past 25 years and I'm fine
said your average /ck/ carnist

no but seriously if you try to suggest eating meat in moderation around these parts, and show studies that back up why this is good, a hundred carnist extremists will leap down your throat and say it's propaganda trying to force you to stop eating all meat ever

>> No.6832761

>>6832739
It's just a label for normies. >>6832711's explanation makes it sound reasonable, but it's a lie.

>> No.6832767

>>6832746

I've been here for a while and this has literally never happened

All fact containing posts are usually ignored and if you do get a reading it's from 1-2 b8rs (not "hundreds") and discussion quickly moves along

>> No.6832772

>>6832733

If it's raw (cooking destroys vitamin C), yeah. It has everything you need to survive. Some cultures have been doing it for ages. You don't have much choice when you live in a barren wasteland.

The better question would be if it's better than an omnivore diet, and I think it's not. Plants have these "phytonutrients" that, although not essential, may provide health benefits.

>> No.6832780

>>6832767
there's another thread where this is happening right now, inb4 you accuse me of being that person.

>> No.6832826

>carnists

tumblrinas in charge of terminology
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6832867

OP is a fag.

I like meat.

Especially if the animal has suffered.

Research shows that an animal in pain releases extra chemicals that result in more nutricious and tasty meat.

>> No.6832875

>>6832867
literally the opposite is true.

>> No.6832893

>>6832867
ask me how I know you've never actually killed and eaten anything

>> No.6832913

>>6832711
>an omnivore eats everything
Most people do. I can't say I've ever met a person who ate nothing but meat. Sure, a lot of people have meat in almost all of their meals but that doesn't make them any less of an omnivore simply because you wish people had less meat in their diet.

>> No.6832937

Every single statement except the second-to-last is a lie. The second-to-last is demonstrable scientific fact.

Or do vegans not wash their vegetables?

I don't even know why I'm responding, this isn't even a very good troll.

>> No.6832979

This sucks, I'm going over to page 10.

>> No.6832991

>>6832733
The Inuit have been living solely off meat for millenia. They can't farm in that frozen shithole so there's never been access to fruit or vegetables besides lichen and shit, but it's possible to live solely off meat/animal products. They get vitamin C from narwhal skin.

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it's sad that /ck/ isn't anything more than fast food and junk food/candy generals.

>> No.6833084

>>6832875
You're wrong. Why do you think cats torture their prey before they eat them?

>> No.6833107

>>6833084
kittens do this because they need to develop their coordination

your cat does this because it never had to survive on its own and it has exactly the same amount of hunting experience as a newborn kitten

cats don't think like humans, are you a middle aged spinster?

>> No.6833141

I want to make mad gains. How do I do this without eating processed soy shit, which makes you a woman?

Vegetable proteins aren't complete sources right?

>> No.6833153

Is pic related accurate? Gave me chills up my spine for some reason.

>> No.6833154

>>6833084
lol what the fuck, anon you retarded nigga.

>> No.6833159

>>6832435
I eat meat and I don't believe any of those things.

Where is your god now vegist?

>> No.6833161

>>6833141
The reason soy is so popular with flyover vegans is that people who aren't accustomed to cooking without meat have a lot of nutritionally useless shit in their diets (wonder bread, etc). So they need the densest form of plant protein available to fill the small remaining amount of space left on their plate, and soy is really really high in protein.

If you stop acting like every meal is a big hunk of meat and a big pile of refined starch, you can use less protein-dense stuff, i.e. most other beans.

Beans and rice are a complete protein.

However if you allow yourself dairy and eggs, you don't even need to do the beans and rice thing. Just eat a variety of food.

>> No.6833162

>>6833107
cats thing exactly like humans you pseudointellectual shitlord

>> No.6833217

>>6832690
>no food pics from glorious nippon

>> No.6833228

>>6833161
beans make you fart all the time.

if you eat milk, you're not a vegan, so what the fuck is the point all the same shit applies, cows are shitting up the world.

>> No.6833236

>>6833228
protein in general makes you fart a lot

drastic changes in your diet make you fart a lot

no one asked about cows shitting up the world, but I'm glad you were able to get something off your chest that was bothering you

>> No.6833276

>>6832690
he forgot the rampant alcoholism threads

>> No.6833297

>>6833083
Yeah I agree, I used to be heavy into beef from my local butcher but then I decided to educate myself.

Was it easy? No, there's too much misinformation out there. It took me like 9 months.

Now I've arrived at the proper diet for human beings (starch based) and I feel great. If you try it and you don't feel as good on plants, then I'll concede the argument to you.

But if you care about your personal health, why not just try a month of eating pure vegetables (no junk) mainly starch and see what happens? What is there to lose? You can always have a steak or so a week if you crave it, but honestly, you'll see how it affects your attention and overall alertness.

I go to college and I see how people who eat pizza and burgers act like after lunch, while I eat my tofu/tomato and quinoa/hummus sandwiches. It's hilarious and sad.

>> No.6833301

Why people think that just because you eat meat, that means you don't eat/like vegetables, that's the point of being omnivore.

>> No.6833323

There's a certain political temperament that reoccurs throughout history. Most of the time, it limits itself to tiny radical communes, but sometimes it spreads further.

This temperament always has 3 features: rejection of private property, communal sex, and vegetarianism.

The people espousing this temperament today are multi-millionaires who control major media channels.

These are the people who want you to become vegetarian.

>> No.6833328

>>6832435
> muh strawman

You must be so clever to argue against yourself.

>> No.6833337

>>6832435
>eating vegetables once a week is enough

Wait, is there actually anyone on here dumb enough to think this?

>> No.6833343

>>6832627
You realise that cis is just the opposite of trans in latin? To ve offended by that is as retarded as being offended for being labeled a heterosexual.

>> No.6833366

>>6832435
>if it's pink it must be wholesome
Never seen this in all my years of browsing /ck/
>if you don't eat meat for every meal you'll instantly die of protein deficiency
It's a quick, and if it's chicken relatively cheap, way to get protein. But considering people suggest beans and eggs in poorfag threads for brotein, I doubt anyone actually believes meat is the end-all as a protein source.
>pasture raised animals are a PETA conspiracy
Nah. Also, don't many carnists boast licensed hunting for their meat?
>meat other than tenderloin or chicken breast is yucky
Wat.
>something that's too infected to eat raw is ok to eat cooked
Are you seriously arguing that? Cooking vegetables also eliminates potentially harmful bacteria if it has been contaminated. Mass-produced meat is a risk to eat because of the potential contact of bacteria through machines and tools, not because raw meat itself is bad.
You can get parasites from unwashed fruits and vegetables, so, are you also saying what's too infected to pick up and eat is bad as well?
>eating vegetables once a week is enough
Well, they're babies in that case.

>> No.6833391

>>6833301
>>6833301
Because carnists only eat corn

>> No.6833429

>>6832733
No. What carnists believe is that every meal must have a meat or an animal product at the very least.

These people are very common throughout society. They think they'll wither away if they don't eat chicken every 4 hours.

>> No.6833432

>>6833429
Why are you so offended if someone likes meat with meals?

>> No.6833441

>>6833432
I don't give a fuck either way. Eat what you want. Last thing I am is offended. I'm just explaining what type of person "carnist" describes. We all know this kind of person. Thy usually, not always, look down on anyone eating a meat free meal. They're also likely to put up a 'my food shits on your food' pic on facebook.

I'm about as offended by them as I am by people who need a soda with every meal. Though the latter is usually quiet about their dependency.

>> No.6833451

>>6833441
but thats wrong
Carnist is a word coined by P3TA and it means anyone who eats meat.

>> No.6833453

>>6833432
Because I'm a big pussy tbh

>> No.6833467

Things Vegans believe:
>They aren't mentally ill
>People are actually fooled by their elitist posturing (we know you don't give a fuck about the environment or animals, you just want to feel superior and "special"
>That attempting to eat like a herbivore despite being an obligate omnivore is somehow healthy
>that anyone gives a fuck about their special snowflake diet.
I hope that some day you get over your eating disorder, anon.

>> No.6833469

>>6833451
There is a lot of broscience about nutrition though.
People thinking that saturated fat is just as healthy as unsatured
Thinking that animal fat is just as healthy as olive oil or avocado oil.
Thinking that legumes are bad for you because they're carbs
Not knowing that a plant-based diet, high in monounsatured fats is probably the best thing you can do for your diet.

>> No.6833473

>>6833469
Except that one slanted study by a group with an agenda to push doesn't prove a goddamn thing. Like I said, veganism is a mental illness.

>> No.6833486

>>6833469
What??
We were talking about the word "carnist"

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Things vegetarians believe
>all of this bread and pasta is good for me
>corn oil is appropriate for human consumption
>cholesterol in food causes heart disease
>beans and rice are cheap and I heard from some guy that they form a nutritionally complete diet therefore beans and rice are the only thing people should eat ever
Pic related. Enjoy your heart disease you sad fucks.

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6833528

>>6833467
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1312295/

>Atherosclerosis affects only herbivores. Dogs, cats, tigers, and lions can be saturated with fat and cholesterol, and atherosclerotic plaques do not develop (1, 2). The only way to produce atherosclerosis in a carnivore is to take out the thyroid gland; then, for some reason, saturated fat and cholesterol have the same effect as in herbivores.

b-but we're omnivores right anon?

>> No.6833535

We should round PETA vegan fascists up and feed them to our pets.

>> No.6833540

>>6833528
>humans
>extensive chewing necessary

wat

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>replying seriously to anything posted itt

>> No.6833630

>>6833297
>I go to college and I see how people who eat pizza and burgers act like after lunch

I saw those people hike the mountain next to the school or go to the student gym as often as I saw them go back to their dorm room to play WoW or CoD. Same with the vegans at my school.

You can fuck right off with your anecdotal evidence.

>> No.6833636

>>6832601
>But my enlightened edgyness?

>> No.6833643

>>6833561
i dont get it, this thread should be on page 10 but retards keep biting

>> No.6833645

>>6833643
>replying to someone

STOP IT!

>> No.6833648

>>6832520
Australians?