McDonald's to serve food to your table

[Anonymous No.6764329]

>McDonald's is going to reclassify fast food employees as "waiters" and "waitresses" and install touchscreen ordering, to escape New York's mandatory $15 an hour for fast food workers. The waiter or waitress will deliver the food to your table after you have ordered it by touchscreen point of sale terminals. Waitresses in New York make $5 an hour.

Libs BTFO

http://time.com/3988898/mcdonalds-table-service/

[Anonymous No.6764331]

>>6764329
Pretty sure with so many orders an hour most waiters will be pulling in a minimum $35 p/h tbh

[Anonymous No.6764338]

I still preffer BK

[Anonymous No.6764344]

>>6764331
>Tipping
>at McDonalds

[Anonymous No.6764349]

>>6764344
Read OP. It is table service. 90% of people tip table service.

[Anonymous No.6764353]

Tbh I've always wondered how fast food places find employees in NYC. The whole city is disgustingly expensive. Where do these Manhattan island wage slaves live? How do they get to work? Why are you even living in NYC on a McDonald wage?

[Anonymous No.6764358]

>>6764349
But the prices will remain the same, right? So McDonalds will need to pay half as much to its employees but make their customers pay 15% more? Seems like I'm not going there anymore.

[Anonymous No.6764360]

>>6764329
Good to see McDonalds continue to die.

[Anonymous No.6764361]

>>6764349
Not if the name McDonalds is out front. Plus how much can you really tip on a $4 meal?

[Anonymous No.6764365]

>>6764353
Easy. You live outside of Manhattan, such as in Brooklyn. About thirty minute train ride each way. 5 dollar round trip or possibly less if you buy the unlimited ride cards. Then you get to make McDonald's wage in a cleaner work environment and pay the same as if you took a bus to somewhere local. Plus you don't pay for a Manhattan apartment.

[Anonymous No.6764368]

People don't eat at McDonalds in NYC do they? I thought they were just there to order a drink so you could use their restrooms. Hopefully they'll have some accomodation for carryout orders...last thing I'd want to do is touch a seat in a NYC McD.

[Anonymous No.6764372]

>>6764358
Seems like you will never taste McRib ever again. Youre call, but I predict most people will choose McRib tbh

[Anonymous No.6764377]

>>6764361
20% tip on a three dollar meal is 60 cents. One meal delivered a minute (and that is conservative given McDonalds thruflow) = $36 p/h tips

[Anonymous No.6764380]

>>6764372
I've never had one, actually. Maybe I should before the change happens.

[Anonymous No.6764386]

>>6764380
make sure u tip

[Anonymous No.6764387]

>>6764331
>relying on a largely black clientele for tips

[Anonymous No.6764388]

>>6764365
Interesting. I thought all of NYC was really pricey, boroughs included. Sounds like the subways help out a lot. I've just always wondered how a city so big can even function.

[Anonymous No.6764390]

I'm baffled they have a mininum wage for fast food, but not everyone. That's nuts.

[Anonymous No.6764391]

>>6764349
now theres a statistic straight from your ass

[Anonymous No.6764393]

>>6764387
>relying on racism to make an argument

[Anonymous No.6764396]

>>6764391
No, OP definitely said it was table service. Check again.

[Anonymous No.6764399]

>>6764393
They really don't tip though.

[Anonymous No.6764400]

>>6764393
>not relying on racism as often as possible

[Anonymous No.6764402]

>>6764393
Nigs don't tip. Scientific fact

[Anonymous No.6764411]

>>6764329
Great, so do I have to fucking tip at McfuckingDonalds now?

[Anonymous No.6764416]

>>6764329
Are you retarded? If they make less than minimum wage with tips the businesses still have to make up the difference and I doubt people will suddenly start tipping much at mcdonalds.

[Anonymous No.6764424]

>>6764393

delivery driver here. it is an objective fact that blacks tip much less than all other races. are facts racist?

[Anonymous No.6764425]

>>6764402
>muh feels-based fact

[Anonymous No.6764426]

>>6764411
I tip at Sonic. If a person serves you, you tip. General rule. If it bugs you, avoid going there. If you do go there, have some class and toss a few bucks to the server. It won't kill you to do so.

[Anonymous No.6764433]

>>6764329
Jokes on them. I only use the drive thru.

[Anonymous No.6764436]

>>6764349
>>6764358
>>6764361
>>6764372
>>6764377
since when has tipping become mandatory?
I'm not tipping at a McDonald's ever, they are bringing my a try instead of putting it on a counter for me to pick up. I can't imagine most of these workers making 3 or 4 of these trips before needing a break.

[Anonymous No.6764437]

>>6764424
Numbers are not racist. People are racist. Given that your negative view of all black people is formed on the basis of contact with a small sample group, you are racist, not the laughably small sample you are relying on.

[Anonymous No.6764445]

>tipping at fucking McDonald's
No thank you. I'll go, and if they serve me, whatever. You tip a waiter because they WAIT on you, not because they deliver your food 10 feet from the counter where they could've easily just called my number and had me pick it up LIKE EVERY FAST FOOD PLACE HAS DONE FOR DECADES.
This is just McDonald's trying to get out of paying their employees as much as they should through a loophole. We don't tip, staff quits because fucking working for $5 an hour, McDonald's caves in and goes back to the old system.

[Anonymous No.6764447]

>>6764437

why are the blacks in the area i deliver to tipping less than all other races in the same area? and why does this sample size not apply outside this area?

[Anonymous No.6764448]

>>6764349
Bull shit I work culvers
the only think people leave on the table is there Fucking trash because there lazy to throw it away lol your a fucking retard

[Anonymous No.6764452]

What's actually going to happen:

"Waiters" collapse under pressure of customers/hour in high-volume locations. Service gets even worse as "poor performing" waiters quit in droves because they can't survive on McDonalds tips. Customers, dissatisfied with careless waiters serving McDoubles and expecting a tip, opt for the experience they're more familiar with at Burger King or Wendy's; at least those places don't expect you to tip your cashier. McDonald's locations with table service have revenue collapse; the whole idea is nixed in 6 months after overwhelming opposition.

A year later, it's remembered as one of the biggest corporate blunders of 2015. Screencap this.

[Anonymous No.6764453]

>>6764447
because there's some magical hypothetical world where your real life experience is negated somehow

[Anonymous No.6764457]

>>6764416
businesses don't make up the difference, where the fuck do you live. Obamaville? if you are a trash server, you get trash money, no once gives you more cause you didn't reach a certain amount.

[Anonymous No.6764460]

>>6764453
Anecdotal evidence don't real cause a few black people went to college that one time

[Anonymous No.6764461]

>>6764437
> believing that's what racism means.

quit spouting media garbage and get your feelings out of facts.

[Anonymous No.6764464]

I'm black and I can admit that blacks largely don't tip

Why does this trigger people so much? Does the truth really hurt that much?

[Anonymous No.6764466]

>>6764452

This is pretty much it, yeah. How do they even expect to keep up with all the customers? The "waiters" have to move from the kitchen to the tables, this takes a lot more time than turning around and grabbing a burger from the rack. They will also no have enough seating space. Is there even takeout possible with that system?

[Anonymous No.6764472]

>>6764388
Naw. I mean, well, the boroughs are pricier than upstate just because they're close to Manhattan. But Staten Island... or was it Long Island, probably both. They're basically the city equivalent to redneckville. Nothing but white trash and nothing to do unless you go into the city, so it's priced lower. Brooklyn and The Bronx (I assume) are priced low because they're filled with ghetto trash. Though yuppies are moving into Brooklyn because of said proximity to Manhattan and driving up prices. Queens is further but is also a better neighborhood than Brooklyn so you still get your million dollar houses there. Filled with Jews and Asians.

I've seen people in better areas in other states whine about having to commute more than 15 minutes. In NYC everything is closer but ironically you have to be prepared to commute 30+ minutes if you don't want to pay for proximity. Took me an hour each way to commute from Brooklyn to Queens to go to college since I had to switch from train to bus. Probably why everyone is in a rush all the time. Commutes are too long.

[Anonymous No.6764477]

Did anyone actually even bother to open the link?
It's 3 paragraphs long and does not include the greentext.
In fact, if you search for the greentexted shit on google, all that pops up is 4chan. You're being rused.

[Anonymous No.6764488]

Ain't no one gonna give that tip at McDick.
Like you're gonna tip someone for bringing you a mcdouble, or that a person who brings their family to McDonalds is gonna tip just because someone brought the food to their table.
All they're saving me is waiting the moderate to near-none amount of time it would take to wait for my food, they aren't gonna do the things a waitress does. And you damn well know that they aren't gonna be wearing all that stupid ass flair.

[Anonymous No.6764495]

>>6764329
Not really. With tips they'll end up making more than they were getting before.

[Anonymous No.6764498]

>>6764365
Plus, thanks to the welfare cliff, you're actually better off making $29,000 a year than $69,000

[Anonymous No.6764504]

>>6764477
>people reading links
Where do you think we are etc. etc.

[Anonymous No.6764513]

>>6764472
Interesting. I (did) live in Houston for a few years and it's just so different. Everyone commutes here and everyone drives. There really isn't an inner city dense like NYC. Our inner cities neighborhoods are the remnants of ancient suburbs surrounded by old suburbs surrounded by middle aged suburbs surrounded by new suburbs with huge swaths of empty space in between. Nobody takes public transit unless they have to (bus). I used to work with a guy who spent two hours on buses to get to work. Freeways are monolithic and so is traffic. Suburbs with good schools take up to an hour drive in rush hour.

Tell me more about NYC, I think different cities lifestyles are interesting and can hardly imagine how you can live in NYC.

[Anonymous No.6764516]

>>6764498
If you have children, which means you're either married, a deadbeat dad, or a single mom

That money is going to directly to baby boo

[Anonymous No.6764521]

>>6764513
i know that sprawl feel

[Anonymous No.6764522]

>>6764437
>Your experiences are meaningless
>White, male privilege is real because I feel it is
The modern left, everyone

[Anonymous No.6764527]

>>6764399
Which obviously isn't true. My black friend tips so you're just being racist.

[Anonymous No.6764534]

>>6764424
You just didn't see black people tip.
I've seen it though, but that's because I have friends that are black.

[Anonymous No.6764536]

>>6764488
People would be willing to tip 50 cents. It adds up given how many orders they get.

[Anonymous No.6764537]

>>6764516
>That money is going to directly to baby boo

This nigga, has no idea how to poverty pimp bitchz. also, black market sales of government cheese products.

[Anonymous No.6764539]

>>6764329
Order $2.50 bundle plus water.
Brought to my table.
Drink water.
Ask for refill.
Finish food.

Leave and no tip. :^)

Why?

BECAUSE CARL'S JR ALREADY DOES THIS AND NO ONE TIPS AT FASTFOOD

[Anonymous No.6764540]

>>6764424
It isn't objective at all. It's subjective to your experience.

[Anonymous No.6764544]

>>6764539
>plus water
You monster

[Anonymous No.6764562]

>>6764540

and why is this area an outlier to the group as a whole?

[Anonymous No.6764570]

>>6764416
>they have to make up the difference
>implying most places actually do this

[Anonymous No.6764581]

>>6764544
If I'm at the drive-thru, I order two waters.

[Anonymous No.6764584]

>>6764393
Nigs don't tip
Nigs will even tell you flat out they don't tip
It's one of the reasons you'll never see Nigs at an expensive restaurant but if you go to a $5 buffet it's packed with them

[Anonymous No.6764587]

>>6764329
I'll try my best to stay out of the politics debate. I'll try even harder to stay out of the shithole that is NYC.

Corporations are pretty depressing. It's not like the entire company of McDonald's would go under if they paid their employees $15 at a few stores.

People aren't going to tip much at McDonald's. Their 10-20% is like 1 dollar. That's if they even leave a tip. That shit sucks for the employees.

[Anonymous No.6764609]

>>6764513
I'm terrified of driving, myself. I sort of want to move out to somewhere more like the suburbs or rural since I like nature and the idea of owning a decent yard and such. But I'm not sure if I could trust myself with a car. When I took some lessons I kept feeling paranoid about what if someone reached a corner at the same time. How do I know who got there first? How do I trust myself to not get t-boned? Plus my eyes are easily bothered by light, especially in the dark. I get after images quickly, etc. I just feel like an accident waiting to happen.

It's just so simple to rely on public transit. They run 24/7 and it's probably cheaper than owning a car considering insurance, and gas prices rising. You can get just about anywhere in the boroughs on one ride since you get free transfers to a bus from a train. And transfers between trains are free if they're in the same station. Sometimes results in slightly roundabout paths to get somewhere.

I know someone from Texas who visited Manhattan once and apparently hated it. He felt claustrophobic since the buildings were too tall and close together and he couldn't see far. Felt fenced in I guess.

I'm not really sure what to tell you about NYC. You'd have to ask what you wanna know. I live in one of the worst areas of Brooklyn. Mostly black and hispanic, lots of crime. There's a McDonald's on my block I would never feel comfortable working at because it's 95% black and I pass as white or hispanic depending on who looks at me. I'm basically a minority in this area, sort of strange. I'm the type of person who'd rather commute to work in a McDonald's at Manhattan than have a 30 second commute. I went to private schools before college because public schools here are notorious for being horrible and having fights, drugs, etc. End result is that I'm pretty sheltered from the world while living in a shithole. Plus, ironically enough, I might've gotten a better education at the free public schools.

[Anonymous No.6764611]

>>6764570
It's the law. Although, I don't know how a server could be so bad they aren't making over minimum.

[Anonymous No.6764617]

>>6764437
You have literally never worked in any industry in which tips are a standard. Even if you don't like it, it doesn't change the fact that blacks do tip less in general.

/pol/ memes aside, you're so blue pilled that ultraviolet light is shining out of your ass.

[Anonymous No.6764632]

>>6764516
>That money is going to directly to baby boo
Kek it really doesn't. Those moms get cheap as hell with their kids. They somehow manage to buy more luxuries than those without kids. Should see them go crazy when they get their income tax.

[Anonymous No.6764635]

Put minimum wage at $15/h and then if someone tips, woo, extra cash, and if they don't, no one is suffering too badly.
Also who the fuck wants to sit down and eat at a mcdonalds?

[Anonymous No.6764646]

>>6764635
mcdonalds is for lovers

[Anonymous No.6764666]

>>6764646
I can't see what's happening in the picture because it's fucking small

[Anonymous No.6764674]

>>6764390
>I'm baffled they have a mininum wage for fast food, but not everyone. That's nuts.

This comes from the federal minimum and subminimum wage laws that cover the entire country. If you work in a job where tips are a significant portion of income, then you have to make at least federal subminimum wage (like $2.13/hr), and if in fact you earn less than that during a shift, the employer is obligated to make up the difference so you made at least the federal minimum wage ($7.25/hr). It's not unique to New York, and doesn't specify fast food vs regular food service - the law distinguishes between generally tipped and generally untipped employees, and it just so happens that most fast food employees are untipped.

[Anonymous No.6764678]

>>6764445

just wait until the fine ass qts start serving you. or that black bitch whos about ready to give you a BJ in the bathroom if the price is right.

[Anonymous No.6764684]

Burger King tried doing table service in 1993 and they lost shit loads of money.

[Anonymous No.6764698]

>>6764684
>Burger King tried doing table service in 1993 and they lost shit loads of money.
They were using humans to take orders at tables. Cheap tablets, and the ability of most Americans to use them, changes the economic equation considerably.

[Anonymous No.6764704]

I know of cafes where they bring food to your table and specifically don't ask for tips

I'm in america so idgaf, not tipping anything except my fedora

[Anonymous No.6764709]

I don't get the appeal of touch screen ordering (customer-wise). Little screens playing commercials all the time is awful.

[Anonymous No.6764731]

>>6764674
You are misinformed. The $15 minimum wage regulation in New York applies exclusively to fast food workers.

This is not the first minimum wage proposal that targets a specific sector. In DC, there was a minimum wage bill written in such a way that it would only apply to Walmart.

[Anonymous No.6764742]

>>6764377
People are not going to tip someone 20% for bringing food to the table. That's a generous tip for a real waiter who takes your order, refills your drinks, and checks up on you.

[Anonymous No.6764743]

>>6764544
It's funny, because McDonald's breaks even on burgers and loses money on fries. I've been bleeding them for years

[Anonymous No.6764746]

>>6764743
>tfw you ask for fries without salt so they have to make them fresh
>tfw you apply a salt packet in front of the cashier

[Anonymous No.6764773]

>>6764587
>It's not like the entire company of McDonald's would go under if they paid their employees $15 at a few stores.

No, but it hurts those who own a franchise. Most economists agree that price floors are a bad idea, and minimum wage in the U.S. was only established because racist white unions didn't want to compete with black labor.

[Anonymous No.6764801]

>>6764746

[Anonymous No.6764810]

>>6764746
I ask for my burgers without ketchup so I can go to the dispenser to make sure the proper amount is applied

[Anonymous No.6764829]

So how do they avoid paying drive-thru employees $15/hour?

[Anonymous No.6764970]

>>6764773
Are all McDonald's owned privately by franchise owners? If that's the case, maybe McDonald's should not own any restaurants in NYC if it is not feasible.

Redefining employees' positions and cutting wages is unacceptable to me, unless of course the waiters actually make more money under the new tipping system. kek

[Anonymous No.6764981]

>>6764970
It's New York fucking City. The vast majority of people working in the food service industry are underpaid illegal immigrants. Hell, in America, the only reason our food is as cheap as it is, is because of our exploitation of migrant workers, from the picking, to the packaging, to the cooking. Every step of the way are undocumented workers getting paid minuscule amounts of money for very hard work, most of which gets sent back to their family's in Mexico. Why anyone who wants shit to be cheap would want to deport these people, I'll never understand.

Everyone likes sausage, but nobody wants to see how it's made.

[Anonymous No.6765028]

>>6764981
ohai, the illegal immigrant argument.

That may be the case in NYC, but can you give me some statistics to back up your point? From what I've seen, particularly in the Midwest where I am from, the people who work in fast food restaurants are almost exclusively Americans. There are Mexicans picking the tomatoes, but it's Americans preparing the food.

[Anonymous No.6765030]

>Go through the drive thru
>Dont have to tip

smugfrog.jpeg

[Anonymous No.6765033]

>>6764970
>Are all McDonald's owned privately by franchise owners? If that's the case, maybe McDonald's should not own any restaurants in NYC if it is not feasible.

90% of US McD's are privately owned. McD's is looking to get rid of the rest by 2017, because they vowed to increase the minimum wage by a couple dollars by 2017 in all company-owned restaurants.

[Anonymous No.6765057]

>>6765033
The hoops billionaires jump through just to save a few million dollars.

[Anonymous No.6765066]

Isn't also included in New York law that if a server doesn't make enough in tips to get an income equivalent to the normal minimum wage that the employer has to pay whatever additional in wages to make up for server minimum + tips not making it to normal minimum?
That's how it is here in Kentucky, at least.

tl;dr I am certain McDonald's employees will still make that $15 an hour no matter what. "Libs" still win, OP

[Anonymous No.6765070]

>>6764329
>in nyc
>mcdonalds opens up after renovations
>they have the new menu
>smoke a bowl and roll out
>get in, theres a few touchscreen kiosks
>cashiers look bored
>smugfrog.jpg
>loud mexican lady comes up and start instructing me on how to use it
>lol whatever
>shits complicated yo, wish i listened
>finally finish, almost $13 for medium ok
>have to go up to cashier and pay, cash only
>apparently i had to put in my table number at the kiosk (?)
>ok
>finally get my buzzer thing
>go upstairs, friends are already done with their normal food
>wait some more
>waiters awkwardly walk up with my food
>t-thanks
>its actually pretty good

thanks for reading my blog

[Anonymous No.6765077]

>>6764970
>Redefining employees' positions and cutting wages is unacceptable to me
Then don't work there. It's not your problem. It's between McD's and their employees.

[Anonymous No.6765079]

>>6765066
No, see the wage increase is for fast food employees only. Waiters and waitresses are not considered fast food employees, so they'd still be on the old minimum wage.

[Anonymous No.6765088]

>>6765079
Unless New York interprets the law as meaning "if your servers can't make up to $15 an hour through tips, you have to make up the rest", which is almost guaranteed if New York has that kind of server minimum wage law

[Anonymous No.6765093]

>>6765077
I work in retail so I also make minimum wage. It is my problem, anon. If minimum wage is going to increase I do not want my employer to find a loophole around the law.

>inb4 get a better job and/or go back to school
I'm trying. It would be nice if I could make a decent living while I try to get my shit together.

[Anonymous No.6765098]

>>6765093
Well your minimum wage is not increasing. You're not a fast food employee.

You will continue to make $7.50 or whatever while the illiterate high schoolers at Micky Dees make $15.

[Anonymous No.6765104]

Mcdonalds pays salaries so low that their employees qualify for welfare. Do you really think that a fast food giant indirectly subsidized by the government was going to pay anyone fair wages?

[Anonymous No.6765111]

>>6764609
Where in Brooklyn do you live?

[Anonymous No.6765113]

>>6764329
> wow
> so future
> speed and convenience
> wow

I can't wait until McDonald has their employees service my cock under the table as I eat.

[Anonymous No.6765121]

>>6765098
mfw average voters, media, and politicians only care about the wages McDonald's and Wal Mart employees.

[Anonymous No.6765132]

>>6765113
Cock services will be considered the epitamy of plebianism by the turn of the century anon. It's time to move beyond our desires of human interaction and disease ridden oral favors.

[Anonymous No.6765133]

>>6764329
That touchscreen stuff is pretty vile. Who the fuck wants to touch some dirty touchscreen then eat food? McD shit is the kind of stuff one eats with their hands and fingers. It's not really silverware type dining. They should have silverware too if they expect people to touch their dirty touchscreeens.

[Anonymous No.6765141]

>>6765111
East New York.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_New_York,_Brooklyn

>79,602 population
>White 1.9%
>Black 51.4%
>has had some of the highest crime rates in Brooklyn, and is considered by some to be the borough's murder capital, alongside Brownsville
>East New York's 75th Police District reported the highest murder rate in the city in 2011
>East New York has significantly higher dropout rates and incidents of violence in its schools. Students must pass through metal detectors and swipe ID cards to enter the buildings.

I get murders and drug dealings in front of my house. Also common to spot Blood gang members. I really need to move out.

[Anonymous No.6765147]

>>6764678
>just wait until the fine ass qts start serving you. or that black bitch whos about ready to give you a BJ in the bathroom if the price is right.
This sounds kinda enticing.

[Anonymous No.6765163]

>>6765133
I'm gonna wipe cum on one then have an acquaince take pictures and samples and Sue the fuck out of McDonalds for not providing silverware and hand sanitizer at the tables.

Not really. But theoretically it could work. It's only a matter of time until customer rubs their dick or asshole on the filthy touch screen and somebody sues McDonald's because their an easy target. Even if its settled out of court sombodies getting a chunk of cash for eating finger foods after being forced to order by touching all over a screen that's dirtier than a whore houses front doorknob

[Anonymous No.6765167]

>>6764424
SHOW ME THE FACTS YOU PLEB FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.6765172]

>>6765141
Oh, no I wasn't him.
I was just curious since I live in Canarsie. Middle school was in East NY though.

[Anonymous No.6765176]

>>6764329
are the people who prepare the food also going to be "waiters"?

[Anonymous No.6765177]

DURP BLACKS DONT TIP
YET MOSTLY WHITES IN NYC USE MCDOLANS
DURP BLACK STILL DONT TIP
NEITHER DO WHITES FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.6765193]

>>6765163
>tfw we will never get cool tech everywhere because monkeys will vandalize them with every chance they get

[Anonymous No.6765199]

>>6765141
Ayy. Was it public or private? Would be crazy if I met someone I knew on 4chin.

[Anonymous No.6765203]

>>6765199
>>6765172
Fug I hate when I do that.

[Anonymous No.6765214]

>>6765203
UFT charter.
It shared a building with Gershwin/IS166.
It's technically public, but also kinda private I guess.

[Anonymous No.6765237]

>>6765093
Have you applied for a Pell scholarship? There are many federal aid programs for those looking to better themselves

[Anonymous No.6765239]

>>6765193
It's sad how apelike some 'people' still act.

>nice thing
>rub feces and spray paint gang hieroglyphics all over it

>nice thing
>steal it

[Anonymous No.6765251]

>>6765239
>hieroglyphics

http://africaunlimited.com/blog/did-egypt-have-spaceships/

[Anonymous No.6765270]

I'm too lazy to read the thread and get a consensus.

But Hardee's, Chick-fil-A, Sonic, etc. all bring you your food to your table or, in the case of Sonic, your car.

And nobody tips there.

McDonald's is based. Got to love how those feel-good New Yorkers spend millions of dollars passing a new law, and it's circumvented just. like. that. Businesses will just, you know, find loopholes or go do business elsewhere. That's what their in the business of doing. I wish they'd just pull all their stores out of New York and let those employees put more strain on unemployment. Maybe we can see New York fall back into a state of disrepair. Talk about some apocalypse porn. I've got a raging boner right now! All future Batman movies could be filmed ON LOCATION. Hnnnnnggggghhhh.

Kind of like DRM. It's pointless.

[Anonymous No.6765271]

>>6764981
But we all pay with the social services we have to provide to illegal immigrants like schooling and housing. Illegal immigrants is causing overcrowding in schools in California.

[Anonymous No.6765289]

>>6765251
It's almost like the monkeys are trying to communicate.....

[Anonymous No.6765293]

way to copy culver's shit Donald

[Anonymous No.6765312]

>>6765270
As a former Long John Silvers' cashier, I can corroborate this.
Nobody's going to tip you for bringing their fast food to the table. There is no waiter-ing happening here. All it came down to was interrupting my cashier duties with having to run your greasy fish out to your table, give a smile and an "enjoy your meal!" and get back to actual work.

On occasion I got the standard cashier's "well shit I got $1 in change and I don't feel like putting it in my wallet so you can have it" tips, but that's the extent of it. And I'd imagine that would happen even less at these McDonald's, where the cashiers are completely replaced by the terminals.

Good on MickeyD's for trying to escape this $15 min wage retardation but I think $5 is too low considering their only pay supplement will be quarters that slip out of customers pockets when they leave their table.

[Anonymous No.6765320]

>>6765312
>I think $5 is too low
The employees knew what they signed up for.

[Anonymous No.6765476]

>>6764329
This is pure fucking evil genius.

[Anonymous No.6766156]

>>6764426
No you tardisaur, that's not how it works. You tip a waiter because they are investing a 40 minute commitment to you, checking back with you throughout the meal to see how things are, bringing you refills, etc. McDonald's is going to have someone dump a tray of food on your table and ignore you the rest of the meal.

There used to be a Carl's Jr. near me that they would give you a plastic number you put on the table then they bring it to you. Nobody EVER tipped them.

[Anonymous No.6766175]

>>6766156
This. I have a way easier time tipping someone who has been attending me for 40 minutes than someone who just hands me some fries that I ordered from a digital kiosk.

[Anonymous No.6766191]

>>6765320
You say this as though people become fast food employees after careful consideration of what job would provide them with the best benefits. Fast food employees are usually desperate people who will take anything. This makes them the most easily exploitable people and therefore the most in need of protective legislation.

> But muh free market

Fuck off. We figured out hundreds of years ago that labor laws were a GOOD thing, especially in the case of monolithic corporations that are so out of touch with their low-level employees that they literally treat them as numbers. I generally consider myself a fiscal conservative but holy fuck I'm not going to pretend that labor exploitation isn't a real thing.

[Anonymous No.6766192]

>No tipping = teens spitting in random peoples food

Glad i never eat shit food

[Anonymous No.6766198]

>>6764829
NYC doesn't have drive-thrus because nobody drives, they just take taxis or the subway. According to my friend there. He had to go out to New Jersey to find some Panda Express since apparently there was none in NYC.

[Anonymous No.6766204]

Did anyone read the article? There is no mention of this.

[Anonymous No.6766211]

Whats the point? This whole plot of theirs kind of gets broken by the fact that they have a DRIVE THROUGH. I mean hell even if you insist on eating inside just order at the window then walk in.

[Anonymous No.6766213]

>>6765133
>That touchscreen stuff is pretty vile. Who the fuck wants to touch some dirty touchscreen then eat food?
That's a serious issue. I'm sure McD is looking at solutions; maybe disposable wipes at the table, or disposable styluses or something. Hopefully you'll also be able to use your smartphone or tablet too, to say you're at table 24 and want your usual triple big mac, hold the veggies.

[Anonymous No.6766217]

>>6766211
I think all the McDs in question do not, since they are in NYC.

[Anonymous No.6766236]

>>6766211
>This whole plot of theirs kind of gets broken by the fact that they have a DRIVE THROUGH.

At a Manhattan McDonald's? Pardon me, my flyoverdar is beeping.

[Anonymous No.6766256]

>>6766236
>Manhatten McDonalds dont have drive thrus
Fucking degenerate plebs

[Anonymous No.6766262]

>>6766236
It said 'New York' not NYC or Manhattan only you cheeky cunt.

[Anonymous No.6766263]

>>6765176
>are the people who prepare the food also going to be "waiters"?

No, that's the whole thing, McDonald's will no longer be a fast food restaurant, so they're not bound by any of the NYC Fast Food Wage Board rules. To quote from the regulations that McDonald's is circumvented:

> For purposes of this wage board, the term "fast food chains" refers to limited services restaurants, where customers order at the counter and pay in advance, which are large chains with multiple locations nationally, and the term "fast food workers" refers to the workers who prepare food and serve customers at such establishments.

Customers won't be ordering at a counter, they'll be ordering at a kiosk or from their table. Therefore McDonald's will no longer have "fast food restaurants" (in the NY legal sense) in New York.

[Anonymous No.6766268]

>>6766198
There's drivethroughs in the other boroughs, probably not manhattan though.

[Anonymous No.6766292]

>>6766262
>implying any other part of new york is even relevant

you must truly be from flyover land

[Anonymous No.6766388]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.6766444]

>>6766175
>b-b-but anon they need that tip to live

[Anonymous No.6766450]

>>6764349
I order from a kiosk, a person walks it and I'm supposed to tip them for doing something I would normally do before the kiosk?
What in the ever living fuck?
I'm never tipping at McDonald's

[Anonymous No.6766477]

>>6764329
The article you posted mentions absolutely nothing about this.

In fact, it says that this is just an option for people who want table service; implying traditional service is still going to be available.

[Anonymous No.6766497]

>>6765093
You do realize if minimum wage increases, goods and services will cost more too, right? Goods and services will cost more because labor costs more. Or the company can keep the prices the same, but replace you with a Mexican who will do the work for less.

[Anonymous No.6766501]

>>6764534
>but that's because I have friends that are black

[Anonymous No.6766511]

>>6766497
Id rather have slightly more expensive food and get better service. I wish fast food wages would increase ($15 is ridiculous though) but only so that when I go get fast food the person behind the counter is someone who actually wants to be there and had to compete to get the job

[Anonymous No.6766519]

>>6766450
I stopped tipping always, my life has improved since then.
> In b4 you have to tip because muh wage laws
No. Tipping is and always has been a choice. Just because employers get to be dicks in anticipation of me making a certain choice, that doesn't mean I'm obligated to do it. I'm not the asshole for not tipping, the employer is an asshole for not paying wages normally.

[Anonymous No.6766527]

>>6764393
>>6764399
>>6764402
>>6764437
>>6764447
>>6764464
https://www.hotelschool.cornell.edu/research/chr/pubs/reports/abstract-13851.html

>numbers be racis

[Anonymous No.6766549]

>>6766511
Protip: the skill of a cook at a corporate fast food restaurant does not influence the quality of your food in any way. Everything is already mass produced and then re-heated or dunked into a fryer.

[Anonymous No.6766552]

>>6766519
So much this. I don't mind tipping for good service but to feel obligation to tip because of pity ? No fuck you and take your angry entitled ass to your boss and stop taking it out on people wanting to eat

[Anonymous No.6766583]

>>6766552
The only time I tip is if I ordered coffee and the waiter is on the ball. If I order just a coffee and the waiter refills it several times, I give a fat tip. I like going to diners and ordering just a coffee and a light (probably cheap item). Waiters usually ignore me and don't refill because they don't expect a big tip on my small bill, even when the restaurant is not busy at all. They always refill diligently when I have a fat bill though, because they're expecting a bigger tip. If I don't get refills I make it a policy to stiff them on the tip. If you expect me, the customer, to pay you extra you had better suck my fucking dick under the table. You're already making more money than the cooks do because of your fucking tips, so work for it.

[Anonymous No.6766590]

>>6764329
im not touching my food after touching one of those nasty ass screens

[Anonymous No.6766600]

>>6766583
And this is why I have a problem with waiters. They snub you if they think you won't tip them enough and get mad after they snub you and don't get a tip

[Anonymous No.6766619]

>>6765141
come to detroit with that weak-ass shit and getcha cap peeled

[Anonymous No.6767035]

>>6764426
>going to sonic
>having class
Pick one.

[Anonymous No.6767070]

>>6764527
liberal logic :
>this one black guy i know tips, so all black people /must/ tip!

[Anonymous No.6767166]

>>6764349
why tip when you already paid to get the order already?
also
>mac donald
>free tables
how many places are dead enough to allow people to chose their place like this? That trash is an hoax, it's literally impossible they do it.

[Anonymous No.6767192]

>>6764464
People were offended for you.

[Anonymous No.6767194]

USA sounds like a complete shit hole.

[Anonymous No.6767200]

>>6764329
capitalism +1

[Anonymous No.6767206]

>>6764329
>tfw this image is no longer just a bunch of high schoolers taking the piss and will likely occur

[Anonymous No.6767211]

Dairy Queen does this, but I just wait near the counter and grab it myself.

[Anonymous No.6767254]

I think this is gonna bite them on the ass. Longer wait times, less food served per minute. All to save a buck to keep your slaves under the poverty line.

[Anonymous No.6767266]

I heart when big business and overbearing governments go to war.

[Anonymous No.6767489]

>>6767254
not really. if they roll out semi or even fully automated product assembly they can cut out non-tipped hourly employees and have plenty of tipped-wage multitask staff on hand.

[Anonymous No.6767700]

>>6767206
looks pretty classy tbh

[Anonymous No.6767896]

is this the beginning of the fast food wars from demolition man?

[Anonymous No.6767898]

>>6764329

That's nothing really new tbh. The Burger King in my town has done the same thing for nearly 6 years now and that was to get around the jump to $8 an hour....

[Anonymous No.6767902]

>>6764393
My black co-worker didn't even know that tipping was a thing until it came up in a conversation.

[Anonymous No.6767911]

>>6764329
McDonalds is a sinking ship.
They did alright during the recession due to poorfags but now the markets are going back to pre-2008 standards.
I don't know about the rest of the world but eating at McDonalds in the UK has a stigma attached to it. It's looked upon as food for the inspirational class.

[Anonymous No.6767916]

>>6767911
>inspirational
My bad.

[Anonymous No.6767924]

>>6764329

>Businesses are allowed to pay less than your country's already laughable minimum wage as long as they classify their employees as servers

Literally what is wrong with America?

[Anonymous No.6767929]

>>6767924
Thanks Obama.
>Not realising the multi-national food, tech and pharma companies own American politics.

[Anonymous No.6767936]

>>6767924
Actually they have to pay the full minimum wage if the servers their reduced minimum wage + tips is lower than the normal minimum wage.
But companies probably have a loophole to get around that.

[Anonymous No.6767942]

>>6767936
lack of reinforcement

[Anonymous No.6767948]

>>6767936
Actually claiming that pay would get a server fired.

>ps: the only group who likes the lowered minimum wage for servers more than the owners are servers (most of them).
>their actual pay when including tips is surprisingly high.

[Anonymous No.6768010]

>>6767911

>inspirational class

Got a kek out of this.

[Anonymous No.6768026]

>>6764611

it's an unenforced law. it's not like waiters have a union that will go to bat for them if managers fuck them over. and managers do fuck them over at restaurants across the country; the restaurant industry is one of the worst for just not giving a fuck about labour laws.

maybe mcdonalds is too big to cheat, though. who knows.

[Anonymous No.6768028]

>>6764773
>Most economists agree that price floors are a bad idea

[Citation Needed*]

*a bunch of wingnut blogs do not count

[Anonymous No.6768034]

>>6767924
>Literally what is wrong with America?

it's run by a bunch of Americans

[Anonymous No.6768036]

>>6768034
>it's run by a bunch of Jews
ftfy

[Anonymous No.6768052]

>>6768028
>wingnut blogs
define your terms breh

[Anonymous No.6768143]

>>6768028
Even Krugman is in favour of a lot of shit people would call "reagonomics" or whatever.
Paul Kruggy, is for example in favour of sweatshops in poor countries
http://www.nytimes.com/1997/06/22/weekinreview/in-principle-a-case-for-more-sweatshops.html

Most are generally against price floors, but Krugman for examples believes that the laws of supply and demand don't apply to labour and therefore a minimum wage would not reduce employment rates.
But for everything else that they think/belief follows the laws of supply and demand they're generally in agreement that price floors are bad.

Employment is just an exception on things.
Though Paul does sometimes sound a little contradictionairy with things.
http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2015/03/krugman_versus.html
But I'll have to look deeper into that.

[Anonymous No.6768522]

I'm rather certain that this is going to deter people from going there at all. Part of the draw to a place like McDonalds is quite honestly the lack of human interaction involved.

[Anonymous No.6768536]

>>6767206
the wine glass of orange soda got me

[Anonymous No.6768542]

>>6764331
>>6764353
>>6764372
>>6767700
>>6767898
>samefag uses "tbh" 5 times itt
Filters are the best.

[Anonymous No.6768872]

>>6764329
in a way, its not really liberals btfo
its more like your conservitard got so BTFO that when you flipped over you showed how much more ass left you have to kick.

[Anonymous No.6768945]

I'm getting McDonalds soon

what sauce should I get with my nuggets?

[Anonymous No.6769472]

>>6764445
No you tip a waiter because they don't get a living wage. Here in the UK, Japan and other countries tipping is not obligated.

[Anonymous No.6769595]

OP is a fucking retard. It has nothing to do with the minimum wage in new york. They're doing it in other countries as well to compete with other fast food places.

[Anonymous No.6769718]

>>6768522
>Part of the draw to a place like McDonalds is quite honestly the lack of human interaction involved.
I think this is why they added in the touch screens. As long as they let you refill your own drinks it isn't that big of a deal.

[Anonymous No.6770440]

>>6764329
they do this in France since 4-5 months

[Anonymous No.6770723]

>>6764331
>>6764349
People tip at actual sit-down restaurants, not fast food places. No American is going to tip a McDonald's "waiter". Do you think they tip at Chick-Fil-A?

[Anonymous No.6770756]

>>6770723
Have you ever had a McDonald's employee bring you your food? It freaks me out. I'm not sure how I'd handle them trying to pretend they're a real restaurant all of a sudden.

[Anonymous No.6770778]

>>6770756
No, I haven't.

I've only dined in at Chick-Fil-A once, it didn't occur to me to tip them. Not out of cheapness or anything, it just didn't feel like an actual 'waiter'.

Same thing at a Smashburger I went to, I ordered and payed in line, then the food was brought to me.

I think if they expect people to pay the waiters, then they should at least have them take their order, just so they feel like they are in a traditional restaurant. Though I don't think many people sit down at fast food restaurants anyway, even if they do order inside.

[Anonymous No.6771400]

>>6764513
That picture right there, that is my personal variant of hell. I can just smell the dead, dry, gasoline filled air and the oppressing heat