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Have you ever been fortunate enough to have real Kobe/Wagyu beef?

>> No.6593714

If foie gras was beef. It would be kobe. Only way I can describe it.

>> No.6593721

>>6593698
would you like meat with your fat?

>> No.6593927

At work we smoke wagyu briskets (Australian restaurant, so it's sourced from here, not Japan). Shit is amazing.

>> No.6593932

>>6593721
That's called marbling, brah. You've probably never heard of it. That's marbling like marble, you know, the really expensive stuff that they make kitchen counters out of.

>> No.6593949

>>6593698
Yes at the Hyatt in Osaka.
It was delicious.

>> No.6593955

>>6593721
Fucking idiot

>> No.6593961

>>6593955
Don't be so buttflustered, shitposter.

>> No.6593989

No but I've been thinking about it a lot lately.; I'm an adult now with a decent paying job so why not.

Any experience with any Kobe/Wagyu online vendors?

>> No.6593991

I too saw this on reddits front page

>> No.6593993

>>6593991
no one cares.

>> No.6593994

>>6593698
I've had the opportunity a few times, but always at my cost. I just couldn't justify the price honestly. I'm quite happy with prime.

I have had burgers that were a blend of wagyu (supposedly), which were amazing, but all the burgers are juicy browned amazing anyway at this joint, so dunno.

>> No.6593995

>>6593698
yes, we used to sell it when i worked on saucier :3 a couple have been known to go missing.

>> No.6594002

To be honest, I've never seen it offered on a menu or at a grocer, so I've not even had the opportunity to have sticker shock yet.

>> No.6594273

Here in West Hartford, at a place called Max Burger, they have a "Kobe beef" burger on the menu. It's like $20 or something if I remember correctly. I have no clue if it's actual Kobe beef, though.

>> No.6594283

>>6594273
That's fucking stupid. Why would anyone grind it up? The point of it is that it's soft and buttery without any tenderisation, mechanical or otherwise. It's a waste to run it through the meat grinder.
It'd be both tastier and cheaper to grind up lean beef and cold-smoked fat (pork or beef or whathaveyou) to mix together. I guarantee that the burger was devised specifically to prey on stupid people's propernsity to spend money on things they don't understand.

>> No.6594297

>>6594273
Probably not. Most "Kobe beef" sold outside Japan is just regular beef from domestic wagyu cows. The real stuff is only imported in small quantities and would have cost you far more.

>> No.6594345

I've had Wagyu often, but proper Kobe only once. Tiny restaurant in a bar in Busan, thinly sliced, and served as carpaccio. Taste was incomparable to anything I've ever had.

>> No.6594348

>>6593698

Real Kobe is cooked well done you know

>> No.6596143
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6596143

Snake river farms is the steak supplier to the restaurant I work at. They raise "American Wagyu" wagyu cows that have been bred with angus cows. The marbling isn't quite as well distributed/dispersed as cuts you'll see of pure wagyu cows but it's still pretty sexy.

I've had true wagyu from kobe island at a sushi place who's owner is originally from japan. They served it raw on sushi rice.

Pic related, it's the rib steak cut. Basically the center of the prime rib.

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>>6593698
Yes. A Tokugawa ordered it for me.

>> No.6596563

>>7329535
Yes, my friends dad grows them

>> No.6596566

I had a wagyu burger once. It was a tasty burger but probably a waste of the meat.

>> No.6596823

>>6593698
Yeah. They're pretty great.

>> No.6597386

>>6593698
Two occasions. My friend works for a high end steak house and it was essentially free. I've tried American, Australian and Japanese. It's amazing, but the price is absurd.

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>>6593991
>admitting to looking at reddit's front page

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>>6593698

Is it possible to eat, like, a ton of this, like you would with a regular gigantic steak? Or is it really too rich for that?

>> No.6597427

>>6596566
> It was a tasty burger
>a waste of the meat

If it tasted good, it wasn't a waste.

>> No.6597441

Disgusting, I wouldn't feed meat with that much fat to a dog

>> No.6597474

I bought some at Walmart once. It was pretty good; sauted it up with some mushroom butter sauce, seared to a nice medium-rare.

>> No.6597513

are you supposed to eat all that fat

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>>6597513
>>6597441
>>6593721

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>>6597517

>> No.6597525

>>6594283
But then you could make it into chili mang

>> No.6597529

>>6597523
pedo pls go

>> No.6598128

>>6597529
There is literally nothing wrong with hentai.

>> No.6598130

>>6593698

That looks like it was cut from a fat woman's stretch-marked belly.

>> No.6598131

>>6594273
its bullshit. no one would be dumb enough to grind up kobe beef if it was actually the good stuff.

>> No.6598144

>>6598131
>muh weeb beef

>> No.6598259

>>6597415
It's possible, sure, but it's overwhelming and not that great (also very pricey). It would be like making a steak out of pork belly. Cut thin, lightly smoked, that sort of stuff is good. Slow cooked with some acid would taste good, but then you would be destroying the characteristics of the meat that you paid out the nose for.

>> No.6598273

I wonder about the round and the ground.

Does Kobe round have enough fat to make it a totally different cut?

THere's plenty of trim on a beef, and obviously some ground has to come out of it. My guess is that they can make more on marketing Kobe burgers than Kobe top round.

>> No.6598277

I'd like some meat with my fat please (shitposting about how this is false is beyond tarded, white is fat, and that's that)

>> No.6598285

I had a wagyu burger and it was really good. The patty was extremely soft. The way I see it, if you course grind the meat you'll get a better burger out of wagyu/kobe than you would angus.

>> No.6598412

>>6598259
>>6598277
>le fat steak meme

>> No.6598533

>>6593698
In Japan a few times while traveling on business. The stuff is super rich because it's as much delicious fat as meat, but instead of being meat with chunks of fat the fat is evenly (and heavily) distributed throughout the meat. Eating an American sized serving of it would be insane. A small American serving is more than enough for two (or more).

Those trips ruined me for bullshit versions of many foods. I'd rather have no sushi, steak, ramen or Korean BBQ than eat second rate examples. But they made me appreciate how good we have it for other things, like Italian food, because holy shit do they fuck that shit up in Japan.

>> No.6598748

>>6598533
Nice blog.

>> No.6598804

>>6593698
Wagyu beef is nothing special. It literally means Japanese beef. Its sold in every single grocery store in Japan and Japanese prefer more marbling than Americans. I usually cook steak once a week and eat wagyu about once a month since its more expensive than the Aussie and American beef at the stores. Its better but not that much better it also cooks much faster and japanese like their steak cuts thin so its a little difficult to cook to the right temp.

Never had kobe although I heard matsuzaka is actually better.

>> No.6598807

>>6598533
Whats wrong with Japanese italian food? Italian food is pretty hard to fuck since its so easy. Only mediocre to bad Italian food I've had was at places like Saizeriya where its only bad because its all extremely cheap, but since cheese is expensive in Japan they use the wrong kinds of cheese.

>> No.6598813

>>6598804
>matsuzaka
I had Matsusaka beef at a yakinikuya Tokyo and it was really good. Never tried Kobe though.

>> No.6598816

>>6598813
Move

>> No.6598817

>>6598144
There are actually faggots on this board that believe one of the most populous and richest countries in the world has nothing to offer because they didn't like some nerd in high school that liked anime a bit too much

>> No.6598855

>>6598817
So you liked anime a bit too much, huh?

>> No.6598911

>>6598816
Make me

>> No.6598950

I had "american wagyu" once. It was nothing special, kinda meh. If I had paid for it, it wouldn't have been worth the money.

>> No.6598995

>>6593698
i got two wagyu fillets for my birthday a few months ago. posted a thread on here about it cos i was nervous about cooking something so expensive. tasted awesome but not really worth the cost. /ck/ told me it wasn't real wagyu beef, i cooked it badly and i had no girlfriend

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>>6596143
What's in this box?

>> No.6599005

ps the reason you almostfags are all off is a5. /thread

>> No.6599013

>>6599005
>ps the reason you almostfags are all off is a5. /thread
no one knows what you meant here lad. why don't you have another try

>> No.6599020

It's a grade of marbling.

>> No.6599029

>>6598995
Did they lie?

>> No.6599043

>>6599013
a5 is a rating for beef quality

>> No.6599080

>>6593994

Wagyu burgers? Lol

Burgers are literally a mix of lean meat and fat.
Mincing wagyu is fucking retarded, its prized for the marbling throughout the meat, when minced you might aswell just get the same meat/fat ratio through cheaper cuts.

>> No.6599129

a specialty butchery near me (Indooroopilly, Brisbane) has a burger restaurant attached to it, and I froth their wagyu burger so hard

>> No.6599131

I thought that was a poptart from the OP pic.

>> No.6599132

>>6599129
I should say that it's a wagyu steak on the burger, not a patty

>> No.6599226

I had certified Kobe at a guys house in Kyoto.

He ran a cooking course and you helped prep all the side dishes finishing up with some Kobe as the main.

I live in Aus so good beef is not hard to come by, but the Kobe blew my fucking mind.

You could really tell the difference in quality.

>> No.6600772

>>6599003
Chickens probably

>> No.6600785

>>6598412
>no one knows what the fuck you are trying to imply with that bullshit

>> No.6600786

>>6597415
Nope. You'd get through about 6 ounces and you would throw in the towel from sheer richness.

Don't me wrong, it's delicious, but imagine eating a really tender ribeye with every piece accompanied by grisly, butter fat. It gets tiring.

>> No.6600923

>>6593698
why would I have Kobe beef when Certified Angus Beef porterhouse steaks exist?

>> No.6602955

Actually tried it once, tastes awesome but not worth the price.
But the best damn steak i ever had was Luma Beef from switzerland, thats just the shit.

>> No.6602972

>>6598128
>jerkin it to illustrations of kids
okay pedo

>> No.6603079

>>6593932
Granite is better. Prettier too.

I think marble belongs in the bathroom personally but when you're dropping that kind of money you get what you want.

>>6593698
I wonder if making tallow would be worth it?

>> No.6603122

my name is kobe
I probably should try the beef once, shouldn't I?

>> No.6604556

>>6599131

Hey there's an idea. Savory Pop-Tarts. I for one would like a Pop-Tart with a minced beef filling.

>> No.6604789

>>6593721
7/10 decent quality bait, try harder next time.

>> No.6604796

>>6604556

You mean like a cornish pastie? Or a hot pocket?