Let's get a thread going about common foods that can have (direct) noticeably moderate to strong psychoactive effects. Starting off with some more well known ones. Nutmeg, ginger, cocoa bean, turmeric. Adding on very weak ones, like tomato and papaya.

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Anonymous Wed May 6 04:44:30 2015 No.6479728 [Reply] [Original]

Let's get a thread going about common foods that can have (direct) noticeably moderate to strong psychoactive effects.

Starting off with some more well known ones. Nutmeg, ginger, cocoa bean, turmeric. Adding on very weak ones, like tomato and papaya.

Anonymous Wed May 6 05:18:26 2015 No.6479774

>>6479728
Whatever that thing is, it's not common in America. You seem like a hipster foodie. Why would anyone risk it? Just eat normal food, who are you trying to impress? You some kind of faggot?

Sincerely,

The Midwest

p.s. I looked up papaya and it's some kind of "super food" for 40 year old women. No one in they're 20s eats that, edge lord. Did you forget pearl harbor?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 05:27:29 2015 No.6479777 >>6479774 Hello Anon, Thanks for the reply, however after a review of your post, I find it hard to believe you've never seen a ginger rhizome, nor a papaya. Sincerely, The Northeast

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 05:45:23 2015 No.6479797 >>6479777 Hello California, You're running out of water, also minorities, and no machine guns. Why would I go to California? Also, we are definitely not the deep south. Sincerely, The Midwest p.s. Indian food gives you diarrhea

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 05:49:02 2015 No.6479803 >>6479797 he said northeast not west coast you fucking dolt

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 05:49:23 2015 No.6479804 If you do that thing where you eat a tablespoon of cinnamon and actually swallow it all successfully it gives you the worst headache known to man.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 05:50:18 2015 No.6479807 >>6479797 Hello again Anon, Thanks for the reply, however California is located in the Northwest and Western regions of the US. I am in the Northeast. Sincerely, Anon

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 06:01:32 2015 No.6479822 >>6479797 How the fuck do you even know you're in the Midwest if you think California is to the Northeast? Checkmate flyover

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 06:10:55 2015 No.6479843 What about ginger makes it so good for relief for stomach issues?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 06:13:50 2015 No.6479849 >>6479774 What the fuck is wrong with this faggot? Stop making us look stupid dumbfuck.

Anonymous Wed May 6 06:22:13 2015 No.6479860

>>6479843
Has a number of pharmacological properties that indirectly or directly aid digestion.

Mainly it causes muscles involved in motility to be more active. It also stimulates the secretion of gastri acid (mainly HCl) which causes the release and better functioning of a number of digestive enzymes, eg lipase and pepsin.

It's also a stimulant (for a very short time), then a depressant. Its stimulant effect is by acting as a histamine antagonist, which can also aid digestion.

Ginger has always cleared my stomach out pretty well. At a certain point my digestive system more or less shut down for a few reasons, most of which I can just guess at. Food would just sit in my stomach and literally rot, which makes you feel pretty sick. Ginger definitely bailed me out to an extent.

Anonymous Wed May 6 06:27:25 2015 No.6479866 [DELETED]

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>not popping turmeric capsules for depression as its more effective the prozac with no side effects

http://www.foreverconscious.com/turmeric-more-effective-at-treating-depression-than-prozac

Anonymous Wed May 6 07:41:33 2015 No.6479970

>>6479866
>more effective than prozac
did you even read the full article you linked before making claims or was just a brief skim of the headline enough to provide you with fact?
the study refers to pure curcumin, not turmeric, which is only 3% of turmerics total mass. the studies gave the patients 1000mg pure curcumin a day so unless those capsules are mammoth-suppository-shit-curry-for-months sized, i doubt youre going to get the 300g of turmeric required to provide you with the anti-depressant dosage.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 07:59:00 2015 No.6479986 >>6479866 That site features astrology and other quackery so any medical information on there is worthless.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 08:06:45 2015 No.6479990 File: 31 KB, 601x357, idontlikethat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6479866 >foreverconscious.com

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 08:15:35 2015 No.6479991 File: 1.09 MB, 1042x737, magicelixer.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6479728 I always feel better after drinking this magic elixir

Anonymous Wed May 6 08:17:30 2015 No.6479992

>ginger
>psychoactive
What?
How fucking much would I have to eat of that stuff to notice anything?
I often drink quite strong ginger teas (like 3 thumbs worth of ginger per cup), and I dont notice anything.
Is that one of those you-have-to-eat-so-much-to-feel-something-that-you'll-have-other-things-to-worry-about things again?

Anonymous Wed May 6 08:54:57 2015 No.6480036 [DELETED]

>>6479992
Probably depends on individual physiology. Ginger is either an H1 or H2 antagonist, I can't recall, and it has a weak affinity for 5-HT2 and 3. As a rule when histamine in the CNS is lowered, dopamine secretion rises in various areas. Has a number of interactions with the body, personally I notice effects after 2 or 3 thumbs worth consumed raw (directly chewed, not heated).

Brief paper on its actions neurologically (and otherwise). Don't feel like tracking down the full text of this paper elsewhere. Other sources to research further are available on pubmed etc.
http://www.mediafire.com/view/mbdamyxx9tgqmqr/Pharmacological_Actions_of_Ginger_I.pdf

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 08:59:06 2015 No.6480042 File: 31 KB, 520x580, coastie.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why are coasties so pretentious?

Anonymous Wed May 6 09:01:53 2015 No.6480047

>>6479992
Probably depends on individual physiology. Ginger is either an H1 or H2 antagonist, I can't recall, and it has a weak affinity for 5-HT2 and 3. As a rule when histamine in the CNS is lowered, dopamine secretion rises in various areas. Has a number of interactions with the body, personally I notice effects after 2 or 3 thumbs worth consumed raw (directly chewed, not heated).

Brief paper on its actions neurologically (and otherwise). Don't feel like tracking down the full text of this paper elsewhere. Other sources to research further are available on pubmed etc.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/mbdamyxx9tgqmqr/Pharmacological+Actions+of+Ginger+I.pdf

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 09:04:13 2015 No.6480051 >>6480042 Pretentious about finding shitty legal highs or not being a retard that doesn't know what ginger is?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 11:06:50 2015 No.6480310 >>6479807 >California >Northeast >Americans in charge of knowing their own geography

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 11:11:54 2015 No.6480327 File: 117 KB, 959x639, OB-XT102_0606di_J_20130606113748.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6479803 The coasts have more in common with each other than with the upper midwest.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 11:25:56 2015 No.6480354 >>6480310 >Europoors in charge of reading comprehension

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 11:29:06 2015 No.6480360 >>6480327 Anyone who calls it 'pop' or 'coke' needs to be put in a work camp.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 11:29:43 2015 No.6480363 >>6480360 >needs to be put in a mass grave Fixed

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 11:31:03 2015 No.6480366 >>6480327 I'm so happy that nothing interesting exists in the blue area. I would never want to be around people who call it "pop".

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 11:34:14 2015 No.6480372 >>6480327 That's wrong, 'pop' and 'coke' as a generic term should be bright alarm colours.

Anonymous Wed May 6 12:56:08 2015 No.6480550

>>6479728
noticeably moderate to strong psychoactive effects.

>what the fuck am I reading?

10/10 troll, because I know people believe this shit.

Well, people do eat, (6aR,9R)- N,N- diethyl- 7-methyl- 4,6,6a,7,8,9- hexahydroindolo- [4,3-fg] quinoline- 9-carboxamide,

That makes people trip...

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 13:00:34 2015 No.6480570 >>6479860 >histamine antagonist I think you got your words mixed up, histamine agonists would help in digestion.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 13:19:40 2015 No.6480621 >Cloves They really chill you out. I bring clove tea in a thermos when I get coffee at a cafe. When my coffee gets cold, I pour in some clove tea to warm it and counter the anxious feelings of the caffeine.

Anonymous Wed May 6 19:14:21 2015 No.6481392

>>6480570
The can in a direct sense, but can do the opposite indirectly. Histamine in the CNS predisposes people to anxiety, and the later norepinephrine and cortisol involvement can inhibit or cripple digestion.

A histamine agonist would work well when acting on the vagus nerve and parts of the stomach lining directly. Which is more useful and when, depends.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 19:28:47 2015 No.6481413 >>6480550 It is not a troll, anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 19:29:54 2015 No.6481415 >ginger Tried figging with an ex-girlfriend, it's not pleasant

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 19:30:33 2015 No.6481417 >>6479991 addiction

Anonymous Wed May 6 19:38:23 2015 No.6481440

>>6481415
>>ginger
>Tried figging with an ex-girlfriend, it's not pleasant

Me: Ok Google, wtf is figging?
Google: Figging is a now somewhat popular BDSM practice that involves ginger used as a buttplug. It's likely that the name evolved from the old practice of gingering ("to feague"): sticking some ginger up a horse's ass to make it hold up its tail. Popular legend claims that Victorians used this technique to punish unruly pupils, but it's probably just as likely that those endearing sex-freaks appreciated it for its kinkiness.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 21:15:59 2015 No.6481708 >>6481415 >Pain >Discomfort >Psychoactive effects

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 21:22:44 2015 No.6481731 >>6480327 I fucking hate when people say coke when referring to all sodas. Coke is a soda itself, not a term for all carbonated drinks. Pop/soft drink is fine

Anonymous Wed May 6 21:52:39 2015 No.6481814

>>6479774

Are you fucking retarded?

You can buy ginger root and papaya in almost any large grocery store. Walmart, Ingles, Food-lion, etc all carry them.

Sincerely,

The Southeast

p.s. Papaya taste great regardless of the nutritional value, and is native to the tropics of the Americas you jackass.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 22:21:24 2015 No.6481878 >>6480327 but what do they call it in oklahomo?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 22:27:00 2015 No.6481892 >>6479774 >>6479777 >>6479797 >>6479807 Hello Americans, You guys don't know how to make food. Sincerely, Europe.

>>	Edgar !!PWXmqbpPR/R Wed May 6 22:30:42 2015 No.6481906 >>6481814 You don't have to call people names just because you disagree with them.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 22:37:10 2015 No.6481922 >>6481892 >>6479807 >>6479797 >>6479777 >>6479774 Hello Rest of World, You can't just put random ginger and sesame on everything and call it "Asian". Also why are you so fat? Sincerely, The Enlightened East

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 22:40:22 2015 No.6481927 >>6481922 Hello Rest of World, Why are you complaining about your food when we don't even have food? Sincerely, Central African Republic

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 22:59:37 2015 No.6481961 >>6481927 I laughed at this. Hard. This is why I come to 4chan. Thanks anon.

Anonymous Wed May 6 23:03:33 2015 No.6481973

>>6481892
Theres like 2 countries in all of Europe that have internationally recognized food. One is good but overly complicated techniques that result in better food when applied to other cuisines and the other is a bunch of simple combinations of flour, water, cheese, and tomatoes. The rest are lucky to be known for one thing, typically some kind of meat dish that is hard to fuck up, or they are only known for alcohol.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 23:06:25 2015 No.6481985 Today I blended/drank 20 cups of spinach and got a euphoric high about 30-60 minutes post ingestion Any idea what caused this? Was I deficient in folate or something?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 23:07:46 2015 No.6481989 File: 121 KB, 922x692, 133304529457.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6481973

>>	Biggie Azalea Wed May 6 23:14:32 2015 No.6482012 >>6481985 Can you tell us the context? Why were you ingesting so much spinach?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 23:30:34 2015 No.6482055 File: 133 KB, 200x385, 3734483+_ca49bbc8aca06a55308dbb33b931d40a.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6481989 >Authority Into the trash.

Anonymous Thu May 7 00:19:26 2015 No.6482233

>>6482012
It is clear it was actually the other way around, Anon was ingested by spinach and simply did what it took to survive.

Post high is likely epinephrine and cortisol along with a blood sugar spike. Potential mild thyroid involvement via spinach's goitrogenic properties, along with rapid uptake of various nutrients. Potential very mild allergy.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 01:48:20 2015 No.6482439 >>6481973 >Britain - Fish and Chips >Turkey - Kebabs >Greece - Gyros >Germany - Sausage >Spain - Paella >Rest of Europe - Alcohol Its true

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 03:25:43 2015 No.6482586 >>6480360 >>6480363 There is literally nothing wrong with calling it pop or soda. Coke is the only problematic one because it uses a brand name.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 03:28:10 2015 No.6482590 You guys know you don't get karma points here right ?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 03:29:04 2015 No.6482592 >>6480327 You're still an idiot that doesn't even know his own country.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 03:30:05 2015 No.6482595 File: 262 KB, 1786x1030, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The first several posts of this thread will go on to be /ck cringe. Nice one, wankers.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 03:40:49 2015 No.6482610 >>6482595 Approach the one on the far right. She's mildly intrigued.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 03:42:54 2015 No.6482612 >>6482595 Middle right looks like Nicolas Cage.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 03:45:40 2015 No.6482617 File: 1.79 MB, 384x216, OP.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6482612 And if you view the GIF, she looks like Nicolas Cage squeezing a dirty turd out in his pants then being somewhat smug about it.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 03:46:08 2015 No.6482618 >>6482612 Johnny Cage just a few heads to the left.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 04:12:55 2015 No.6482657 >>6479777 I knew there was a reason I hated that part of the country the most.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 04:20:52 2015 No.6482669 File: 14 KB, 480x360, hqdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6482612 Dude.....

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 04:46:14 2015 No.6482702 >>6482439 haggis

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 04:48:59 2015 No.6482707 >>6482595 Not enough houses have crown molding.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 04:54:06 2015 No.6482719 >>6482439 >no italy >no poland >no russia >no portugal >no france

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 05:10:17 2015 No.6482760 >>6482586 No one said soda was a problem, anon. Is there something you need to get off your chest?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 09:57:46 2015 No.6483158 >>6482719 Italy is the country that has all the combinations of flour, tomatoes, cheese, and water. France is the one with the complicated techniques that are better applied to other cuisine

>>	Anonymous Fri May 8 00:57:37 2015 No.6485304 >>6482669 Once seen.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 8 01:01:22 2015 No.6485311 >>6479774 It's ginger and it's fucking delicious.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 8 21:16:14 2015 No.6487504 bump

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