/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.6301880]

Why are there so few female chef's currently awarded 3 Michelin Stars? I think that only 6 women currently hold this prestige, but I could be mistaken.

I always assume everyone thinks of women (especially grandmas and moms) when they think of great cooking. But why is our reality so different from our internalized impressions? Do we love their food just because we love those women?

This is surprising to me because such a large portion of American commercial advertising is geared to reinforce the notion of feminine proficiency in the kitchen (Aunt Jemima, Betty Crocker, Cholula, Marie Calender's, Celeste, etc. etc.)

So why do women not succeed in the upper echelons of the industry? Is it sexism or a lack of skill? You don't actually have to answer any of these questions, just discuss why it is that you think women are completely underrepresented at the highest levels of professional cooking...

[Anonymous No.6301883]

there aren't that many female chefs in general.

[Anonymous No.6301887]

Running restaurants is hard work. There's more to it than being able to cook good food. Women avoid hard work.

[Anonymous No.6301892]

Same reason as women are underrepresented as CEOs. People make certain assumptions about you based on your appearance. Four people say the exact same thing:

White male: Sarcastic and witty
Black male: Angry because he's oppressed
White female: Entitled and bitchy
Black female: Playing the victim again

You know it to be true, inb4 angry angry people try to guess my race, gender, age, and possibly even sexual orientation so they can dismiss the unimpeachable manly truth that has come to you through my fingertips, also inb4 go to tumblr

[Anonymous No.6301896]

Female brains are too small to become very skilled at anything.

[Anonymous No.6301912]

>>6301892
just fuck off, I don't care where

[Anonymous No.6301915]

>>6301912

Try and make me

[Anonymous No.6301917]

The food industry is one of the biggest word-of-mouth industries in the modern era. So much about your reputation comes from being vetted by respected chefs.
The latent sexism and racism that comes into the decision making of hiring and promoting people is turned up to eleven in the food industry, so it's not suprising that most highly lauded chefs are white men

[Anonymous No.6301919]

Women usually worked at home, men usually worked at their job.

Most of the great home chefs are women. Most of the great professional chefs are men.

Not that surprising.

[Anonymous No.6301925]

Has there ever been a black female chef anywhere around the world that was awarded a Michelin star? I'm digging but I can't find any.

[Anonymous No.6301928]

>>6301892
Dumb as fuck.

[Anonymous No.6301929]

>>6301880
Because women are not as competetive nor singel-minded as men. Im sure there are more reasons, but those are the ones that popped up for me.

[Anonymous No.6301931]

>>6301880
because running a kitchen is akin to doing blue collar work.
Women don't want to do work that requires a fuckload of effort, is hot sweaty with long hours, and you get little to no recognition for.

[Anonymous No.6301932]

>>6301929
>not as competetive nor singel-minded

Men aren't the ones constantly taking pictures of their food and sending it out over social media every hour of every day.

[Anonymous No.6301934]

>>6301915
yeah, you're definitely underage

just fuck off

[Anonymous No.6301937]

Isn't Ina Garten the fat slut who refused to meet a kid dying of cancer?

[Anonymous No.6301939]

>>6301934
>the guessing begins

Actually I'm closer to your dad's age, but that's the last hint you're getting. Have fun :)

[Anonymous No.6301942]

>>6301880
that mixed berry chili looks delicious

[Anonymous No.6301945]

>>6301942

it looks delicious because it doesn't have beans and is therefore a proper chili

[Anonymous No.6301950]

>>6301880
I'd bake swift ina taylor's garten.

[Anonymous No.6301975]

>>6301932
>Men aren't the ones constantly taking pictures of their food and sending it out over social media every hour of every day.
Thats not being single-minded. Its about commting to one single art/craft/science/etc. Its like guys being very into Star Wars, Anime, cooking(like Jiro or any other top chef), and disregardding other oarts of their lives for that one thing.

While the are women who do this, its still disproportionately male.

[Anonymous No.6302007]

>>6301880
look at taytay's bit ole man hands

[Anonymous No.6302019]

>>6301975
>Its about commting to one single art/craft/science/etc.

Then explain how they aren't top tier chefs, if they are that committed to food. Tumblr whales surely learn more about different foods and their textures in a year than an average skelly manlet could hope to learn in a life time. This devotion should translate to success should it not?

[Anonymous No.6302040]

>>6301896
At yet we have a higher density of neurons allowing our brains to work faster.

Bigger = better has been debunked ages ago, hon.

[Anonymous No.6302044]

>>6301945
Also cause it's diced berries rather than minced.

[Anonymous No.6302049]

>>6302040
Listen sweetie, that's only in the posterior temporal cortex, and that's all because of >muh emotions

[Anonymous No.6302068]

I think the idea is that women are better at "home cooking" whereas men are better at "refined cooking". Since women are traditionally supposed to stay in the home while men go out and work, that probably leads to people thinking that men are better suited to restaurant cooking. This is my theory as to why cooking and baking are traditionally feminine whereas grilling is masculine: women are expected to stay inside the house.

And I do think sexism is a huge issue in the restaurant industry, as it is in every industry. People like to think that sexism is "over" or that it doesn't exist, but if you just take the time to actually look at what is said about women vs. men, you'll see there is a pretty large discrepancy. I work at a TV station, and I listen to the ads and programs all day, and they're all aimed at women (because of course, women are home during the day while men are the breadwinners). Every ad and every show is telling me that I'm too fat, too old, my hair is too curly or too straight, I should feel guilty about eating foods I enjoy, on and on and on, all day every day.

When I watch programs aimed at men, mostly the ads tell me to buy trucks.

I've kind of veered off topic here, but my point is that sexism exists, whether you like to admit it or not. And it does affect the amount of women who are recognized in the industry, and probably the amount of women who want to enter the industry as well.

[Anonymous No.6302070]

>>6302068
>my point is that sexism exists

Cue neckbeard rage in 3... 2...

[Anonymous No.6302079]

>>6302068
16% of Michelin Guide's executive committee is female. Less than 1% of restaurants led by a female has a Michelin star. How does equate to women being discriminated against? Are you saying the Michelin Guide is sexist?

http://www.michelin.com/eng/Home-Michelin/michelin-group/governance/management-team

[Anonymous No.6302082]

>>6302068
16% of Michelin Guide's executive committee is female. Less than 1% of restaurants led by a female have a Michelin star. How does simply having less of something equate to being discriminated against? Are you saying the Michelin Guide is sexist?

http://www.michelin.com/eng/Home-Michelin/michelin-group/governance/management-team

[Anonymous No.6302096]

what happened to my /ck/

[Anonymous No.6302101]

>>6302082
You apparently have a chip on your shoulder about something. What's it about?

[Anonymous No.6302104]

>>6302068
>targeted advertisement equals sexism
Opinion invalidated.

[Anonymous No.6302105]

>>6301892
Why aren't there more female ditch diggers? Appearances don't matter.

Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.6302107]

>>6302068
Literally no one believes women should be barefoot in the kitchen. Stop making that fucking narrative up. Women are expected to work a job and support the household as well. Jesus.

Maybe more women should be trying to be actual chefs instead of celebrity cooks.

[Anonymous No.6302109]

>>6302101
All tipping aside m'lady, can you actually support your weak argument in any way or is this just going to resort to ad homs?

[Anonymous No.6302112]

>>6302101
>the lack of evidence is evidence of something

Nah cunty fuck off.

[Anonymous No.6302119]

>>6302112

What do you think I'm even asking you?

>>6302109

I'm a man, I don't have any argument, and I'm only asking you to clarify your butthurt. What in god's name are you so angry about?

[Anonymous No.6302125]

>>6302096
/pol/ and /r9k/ sometimes get hungry too.

The big thing is a combination of the inherent sexism of the industry, just like any other gender dominated field. Added to which working at a restaurant is a very aggressive environment. It's not because of the hard work or fast pace, but the way workers have to build a comradery with each other that involves hurling verbal abuse, often of the sexual nature. In an all guy environment, you can talk shit about taking it up the ass and sucking cock, but throw in a girl and she's going to be a prime candidate for harassment lawsuit. Sure, more professional kitchens will be less of it but you gotta learn to move up and not many girls will stick with it long in that kind of environment. That's part of the reason why bakeries and smaller cafe/deli's have more females- different social environment.

This isn't about a girl vs guy thing either. If a guy is thrown in a room full of stressed out girls, he's going to get uncomfortable too. Now, being a center of sexual attention may seem fun, but imagine all of the women being thirty years older and fat offering to take turns fucking you in the ass if you mess up the hollandaise and it's a bit less welcoming.

[Anonymous No.6302126]

>>6302125
> imagine all of the women being thirty years older and fat offering to take turns fucking you in the ass if you mess up the hollandaise and it's a bit less welcoming.

I'm fine with this.

[Anonymous No.6302127]

>>6302096
We came and took over your shitty pop music and transformed it into something beautiful.
We came and took over your favorite little nerdy movie franchises.
We came and took over your homoerotic video games.
Now we are taking over your faggy little male inclusive website.
Deal with it neckbeards, girls will always win.

[Anonymous No.6302132]

>>6302119
Not angry about anything mr projection, just seeking to understand how an industry is sexist with concrete proof instead of theoretical generalities. Does this insult your dainty 'male' ego?

[Anonymous No.6302135]

>>6301917
So much this.

[Anonymous No.6302145]

>>6302132
>Mr Projection
>ad hom

You forgot straw man and moving the goalposts. You gonna find a way to work both of those into the same post or is it amateur hour?

[Anonymous No.6302149]

>>6301917
>the lack of evidence is evidence

No it isn't. This is a fucking joke.

[Anonymous No.6302154]

PLEASE HELP END GENDER INEQUALITY IN THE UNGROUND MINING FIELD

WE NEED MORE FEMALE MINERS TO OPERATE HEAVY DANGEROUS TOOLS WITH LOW PAY FOR EQUALITY

Oh wait that isn't a fun job so they don't want equality.

[Anonymous No.6302157]

>>6302126
Missing the point.

Which is you're being placed in a position where you have to deal with unwanted advances from people you're not attracted to. And deal with it in a way where you don't isolate yourself and not ruin the professional environment. Workers who don't 'fit' with the company are the first to boot. The restaurant industry has one of the most complex social structures because it's just a natural part of the job. You're working 70-80 hrs with the same crew in a high stress passionate environment. It's just easier to stick with the same gender to reduce unneeded tension.

It's the same deal why there are few minorities in professional kitchens as well. You don't see a lot of black guys in an all white crew. If you're white male in an all asian/black male kitchen, you're going to take the shit the entire time. It eventually wears you down even if you're not easily offended.

[Anonymous No.6302158]

The men that reach the top of any career path are good at finding something they are passionate about and devoting their lives to that art/field. The vast majority of women are completely incapable of doing this. Now most men are unable to do this as well, but not to the same extent as women.

[Anonymous No.6302162]

>white males are evil racists and that's the reason there are not more qualified womyn and people of color as chefs and not the fact that there jut aren't more of them and that's that

I wish I had the power to delete stupid threads. The absence of evidence of racism is evidence to some of you fucking idiots.


I want to see more threads about why there aren't more female semen jockeys or female butchers? Again they don't pay well so no one will be bitching. Fuck all yall.

[Anonymous No.6302166]

>>6302145
No but seriously stop deflecting. Prove to me how the industry is inherently sexist. Is it the banks that give loans? The current chefs that refuse to higher female sous chefs? The patrons? The magazines and media? Please help me understand.

[Anonymous No.6302168]

>>6302107
>Literally no one believes women should be barefoot in the kitchen.

...there are a lot of people who believe this. You do realize that there are places in the world where a woman can't even leave the house without a male escort, right?

[Anonymous No.6302170]

>>6302168
Okay, would the eradication of all Muslims make you happy then?

[Anonymous No.6302171]

>>6302166
I gave you my opinion a bit further up; it's up to you to work out which of those posts is me. As for continuing the conversation, others are doing a pretty good job of it and I have nothing further to add.

[Anonymous No.6302173]

>>6301880
Just my personal opinion but the reason I never pursued a career as a chef (and consequently could not advance to upper echelons) is because it would not fit in with my life goals. I want to have kids and be active in their lives. I can't be closing down a restaurant until 2, 3 in the morning and be back at work sometimes as early as noon the next day. I'd never get to see them or go to their school functions or anything of the sort. Holidays? Those are out. Maybe it'd be workable down the road when I can pass duties off to my trusted and talented colleagues who work with me, but there's no guarantee of that. I don't think it's a stretch to imagine other women think the same way.

[Anonymous No.6302174]

>>6302170
Holy shit, what the fuck are you talking about? Where in my post did I advocate genocide?

I'm done here. Jesus Christ, anti-feminists are a bunch of fucking children. It's impossible to have an actual conversation with you.

[Anonymous No.6302175]

>>6302174

First day on 4chan?

[Anonymous No.6302180]

>>6302174
>triggered

The places in the world that need a male escort are Islamic countries in the middle east. Why are you conflating their issues with the lack of female chefs in the West?

[Anonymous No.6302187]

>>6302175

>Not knowing that /pol/tards can't argue and just scream at you until you leave

Really must be his first day on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.6302189]

>>6302187
>his

[Anonymous No.6302190]

I think it's just that few women lack the drive to completely commit their life to 1 thing.

Men who are at the absolute top only know 1 thing and they've spent their life doing it.

[Anonymous No.6302191]

>>6302189
First day on the internet? All posts on the internet are automatically to be read in a male voice, unless explicitly called out with a phrase like "im a grill".

[Anonymous No.6302200]

>>6302174
>this is the sound of an SJW's brain (what's left of it anyway) melting when they've run out of talking points

[Anonymous No.6302204]

>>6301880
I think a lot of places have the idea that professional, high tier cooking is the realm of men only, and we have those stereotypes it often ends up a self-fulfilling prophecy (women are less likely to not only go for it, but less likely to be promoted to the level of fame necessary to be recognized as good).

I may be wrong, but I remember hearing that, for instance, Italy does not have this stereotype to such a degree and a lot of respected chefs there are women. This is just something I heard so I may be wrong on that.

[Anonymous No.6302207]

>>6301892
But white women ARE entitled and bitchy

[Anonymous No.6302215]

>>6302207
They are entitled because white men built the world. Of course their daughters are entitled to their wealth and privilege. It's not a bad thing that good always wins.

[Anonymous No.6302216]

>>6302157
Not sure where you are from but in America professional kitchens are probably the most culturally diverse work places. Tons of Mexicans blacks whites and Asians working together.

[Anonymous No.6302218]

>>6302215
>tfw daughter of incredibly successful lawyer
>his success paved the way to law school for his kids
>nepotism has created a lucrative career as a partner at his firm


So many people would be mad about that and that's fantastic

[Anonymous No.6302223]

>>6301880
It's almost like teachers. I always thought women teachers were best/most common until I got to college.

In my whole college career (graduating in May) I've had only 4 women professors. I'm required to take 36 courses to graduate.

[Anonymous No.6302226]

>>6301880
>implying taylor swift would eat cake

[Anonymous No.6302230]

Some day I dream of a world where we stop pretending men and women are equal. I don't even care if the differences are societies fault or not. When you spend a week of the month with the mental fragility of a 6 year old, its hard to accomplish anything worth accomplishing.

In other news, women don't succeed in the upper echelon of anything.

[Anonymous No.6302242]

It's a combination of things. Women don't commit to perfecting a craft because eventually it's expected that craft will be cast aside for children. America is behind all other developed countries on parental leave rights, meaning women sacrifice more to have kids than in other countries and men aren't even given the option to spend time with their newborns. So, women go into their jobs expecting to leave them; why put in the effort to excel just to abandon it ten years later?

That, plus professional kitchens have long, late hours and are high stress environments. Why bother with that when your little Tommy needs to be up to catch the bus at 6?

[Anonymous No.6302243]

>>6302127
Not really, you're just a small minority of shitposters.
Which is all you'll ever be.

[Anonymous No.6302251]

>>6302243
Not that shitposter, but as for minority consider this:

>most females consider females to be as capable if not more capable than men
>females represent approximately half the population
>only a vanishingly small minority of men are required to believe females to be as capable as men for feminism to be a majority point of view
>in fact an increasing majority of men think this way

You are the marginalized minority, Captain MRA. How does that feel? Probably not too good, yes? Whelp, time to go join ISIS and be issued your pure submissive virgin wife :^)

[Anonymous No.6302257]

>>6302251
Most retards don't think they're retards either.

[Anonymous No.6302259]

>>6301883

/thread

the percentage of men who succeed in the upper echelons of the industry is extremely low too, so of course when you take a tiny fraction of that population they are going to be less common at any level

[Anonymous No.6302262]

>>6302082

less than 1% of restaurants lead by either gender have a Michelin star

[Anonymous No.6302264]

>>6302243
We got mootles to leave didn't we? Eventually our shitposting will drive the rest of you misogynists off of this god forsaken shithole too. Have fun over at rebbit, we run this shit now.

[Anonymous No.6302283]

~.00002% of restaurants have 3 michelin stars and 6% of executive chefs are woman

no shit they're going to be in the minority of the ~120 3 star restaurants since they're the minority in ALL restaurants

[Anonymous No.6302341]

>>6302257
>the men who agree with women are really women
You've never seen a vagina have you

[Anonymous No.6302369]

I hate that we have to bicker about differences of the sexes, instead of acknowledging and celebrating those differences. It is a great crime to make unequal things equal.

Chef work is hard.. Women are soft. That's all.

[Anonymous No.6302402]

>>6302019
Are you literally illiterate?

[Anonymous No.6302433]

>>6302019
Devouring cupcakes is not the same thing as learning a craft.

[Anonymous No.6302439]

>>6302158
This.

Women drop out of practically every profession to go be mommies. That's fine if that's what they want to do, but they can't demand free Michelin stars when the only kitchen they work in is the one at home, making baby food for their own crotchfruit.

[Anonymous No.6302442]

>>6302019

Holy shit how stupid are you? I really hope you aren't being serious, because you're a fucking retard if so.

[Anonymous No.6302443]

>>6302439
Oh look, just a few posts after the one I replied to:
>>6302173
Finally, someone being honest about it.

[Anonymous No.6302460]

I donno. I leaned cooking from my mom and grandmother. My dad, god bless him could hardly boil water. steaks,hard fried egg sandwiches. and reheated pork and beans Even well. I had an uncle war 2, Korea, early Vietnam an army cook. twice wounded, bronze and silver star. when he died, they flew up a contingent from Bragg for pall bearers.

[Anonymous No.6302479]

>>6302443
Just curious, if you have kids, wouldn't it bother you that you don't get much time with your kids? Not getting to spend holidays with them or going to their functions/games/plays/etc wouldn't bother you?

Question for all the guys who aspire to devote their lives to being a chef.

[Anonymous No.6302491]

>>6302283

This.

Obviously most women are going to be less inclined to go into a profession like this where it pays like shit and you work your fucking ass off because hell, even if you work in the restaurant industry, most people would rather just make 4x as much in the FoH.

That said I'm a female sous at a fine dining restaurant in a large city in California and I think that focusing on the "sexism" limitations is asinine. I think that some of the people I worked with when I started out might have been harder on me than they were on the men because they didn't want to seem like they were being too easy on me because I was female. So what? I just kept working hard and eventually I got recognition for it. So many people complain about how "sexist" the restaurant industry is, but in my experience it really hasn't been at all. I don't know if people just want to make excuses or they just want to complain about something, but it's really fucking annoying and I'm sure that talk of this has discouraged plenty of females from going into the industry because they thought they wouldn't be able to succeed. It's bullshit.

[Anonymous No.6302577]

>>6301880

It's the same with any industry, really. Even in the fashion industry you see so many male designers vs. female ones. Kind of funny just how wrong Beyonce was.

[Anonymous No.6302579]

>>6302577
>implying gay men are counted as male in these sorts of comparisons

nope they're batting for the other side

[Anonymous No.6302587]

>>6301880
You're right, on International Woman's Day we should fight for women to have equal gongs and pay and everything else to men whether they deserve them or not but always without relinquishing the special privileges afforded to the stronger motherhood race.

[Anonymous No.6302610]

>>6302587

people should be paid for the work they do

some women do fuckall for work and we have to pay for their maternity leave

others work just as hard if not harder for men and are still paid less

why can't we just assess how competent people are and pay them accordingly?

[Anonymous No.6302632]

>>6301892
Women usually don't tend to work the long hours it takes to get there. On average they don't.

[Anonymous No.6302640]

>>6301917
>hurr sexism
>I've never been out of America
>durr muh racism
Go back to tumblr

[Anonymous No.6302645]

>>6301937
Yeah. He went to swim with the dolphins instead

[Anonymous No.6302652]

>>6302171
In that anon so in other words, you don't have anything to support you're opinion that the restaurant field is inherently sexist? You didn't show anything to provide support and therefore your opinion is only an opinion

[Anonymous No.6302656]

>>6302174
What does this have to do with anti feminists?

[Anonymous No.6302676]

>all these people getting on a soapbox when it's very clearly just a reflection of how there are few women in the industry in the first place

[Anonymous No.6302704]

this shitty thread still being here is a testament of the fact that some tumblr bitch cunt is the main mod of this awful board

[Anonymous No.6302708]

>>6302610
>why can't we just assess how competent people are and pay them accordingly?

you're not paid for being competent.
you're paid for actually getting work done.

[Anonymous No.6302715]

>>6302708

arguing semantics on /ck/, well i never

[Anonymous No.6302716]

>>6302708

>nitpicking

being a competent employee (which implies that you get shit done), is that better your majesty?

[Anonymous No.6302719]

What a gay thread

[Anonymous No.6302729]

>>6302716
>>6302715

then how could men and women ever be equally competent?
men have much higher strength, stamina and endurance - in an environment where you're expected to work long hours in a stressful environment that seems like a clear advantage, no?

[Anonymous No.6302734]

>>6302729

shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.6302762]

>>6302729

I work long hours in a kitchen and I've never had any issues lifting anything, so what's the issue here? That's only relevant if it's actually a limiting factor. We're not talking about a strongman tournament here.

[Anonymous No.6302773]

>>6302729

unless youre a gigantic pussy you should be able to deal with the lifting and stamina issues associated with working in a kitchen, and gigantic pussies of either gender don't get into the industry unless they're completely delusional

[Anonymous No.6302791]

[Anonymous No.6302825]

>>6302191
Even when it's a girl posting (supposedly) I still read it in a male voice

[noko No.6302864]

>>6302049

actually, dumbfuck, female brains are note only denser, but proportionally larger in the cortical regions (that means language not feels, assnozzle)

do you even read the journal of the american medical assoc.?

[Anonymous No.6302901]

>>6302864
>noko

Fucking kek tumblr put some effort into it, jesus christ

[Anonymous No.6302930]

>>6302864
>reading
What do you think I am? Some faggy girl? LOL

[Anonymous No.6302941]

>>6302154
Join WIM!
http://www.womeninmining.org.uk

[Anonymous No.6302953]

>>6301880
>you will never come home to tay tay cooking you a nice dinner after a long day of work

[Anonymous No.6302959]

>>6302864
>being this new

[Anonymous No.6303015]

>>6302762
i've seen women demand that men carry potato sacks up from the cellar because they're 'too heavy'
they also tend to call in sick much more than men, and many get bitchy way too fast when things don't go as planned
all good reasons to prefer men for the job

[Anonymous No.6303019]

>>6303015

Not the sort of women who actually work in commercial kitchens. Those useless cunts just go to the FoH instead to make 5x as much while doing nothing other than standing around chatting with eachother and being nice to customers, boy oh boy is that hard.

I really doubt you've seen actual female cooks or chefs complaining about having to lift heavy things because those sort of people are weeded out of the industry.

[Anonymous No.6303042]

same reason there are hardly any successful women anywhere else

[Anonymous No.6303053]

>>6303042

Because pitiful betas give them superiority complexes so they think they are too good to do any real work?

Like all the faggot NEETs on here wouldn't be just as useless if people were happy and willing to just shower them with money.

>inb4 shallow whore

I'm a sous chef and my parents are so fucking rich that I probably would never have needed to work a day in my life. Most people are useless pieces of shit, women just get away with it more easily so they take advantage of it.

[Anonymous No.6303060]

>>6303019
>I really doubt you've seen actual female cooks or chefs complaining about having to lift heavy things because those sort of people are weeded out of the industry.

partially true. i'm in germany, and all the women i've seen in the kitchen didn't make it through the apprenticeship before they dropped out.
as i said, they seem to lack the stamina/endurance required, which in my opinion boils down to shitty attitude due to being pampered and spoiled throughout their youth and adolescence.
we get plenty of guys with shitty attitudes as well. some of them drop out, some manage to get their shit together and develop a work ethic that allows them to push through. i have yet to see a girl do that.

[Anonymous No.6303068]

>>6301880
you never know that some women in this world are probably really good chef's that just aren't that well known. I don't know.

[Anonymous No.6303380]

>>6302242
That works great in other cultures. How far would that get Americans? Is agonizingly difficult to get people to work as it is without offering paid time off for people to dig themselves deeper in debt. Yeah a few conscientious people won't abuse it, but what about the other 94%?

[Anonymous No.6303511]

just wanted to say that i'd swallow taytay's steaming log of shit

[Anonymous No.6303522]

>>6303511
So would we all, man, move the fuck on.

[Anonymous No.6303534]

>>6301880
Is anyone else really bugged by those onions being there?
They're making a cake, the other shit on the table is sweet, so why the fuck are those onions there

[Anonymous No.6303687]

>>6301931
That sounds like motherhood though.

[Anonymous No.6303726]

>>6303534
Onions go in everything.

[Anonymous No.6303731]

>>6303511
>>6303522
Nah. She has a little boy body

[Anonymous No.6303766]

>>6303687
>That sounds like motherhood though.
>you get little to no recognition for.
you haven't a giggle, cunt? every woman deems that having a little shitbag crawl out of her snatch makes her the uniquest snowflake on earth.

[Anonymous No.6303777]

>>6303766
Oh yeah that's why men rule the world. Because women get so much recognition in society.

[Anonymous No.6303794]

>>6303766
I'd rather get a paycheck than an AWWWW ISNT HE PRECIOUS

[Anonymous No.6303832]

>>6303766

I know lots of women who don't want kids, edgy teenager pls go back to wizardchan or r9k

[Anonymous No.6303837]

>>6303731
Real Woman detected

[Anonymous No.6303911]

So what did everyone have for dinner tonight?

>rice and beans with a spinach leaf salad
Was cheap and delicious.

[Anonymous No.6303916]

>>6303766

u jelly?


>be male
>bigger
>stronger
>faster
>superior
>cannot, in fact, produce another human life

sucks to be a failure, doesn't it, stud?

[Anonymous No.6303925]

>>6303766
You do realize you were once a little shitbag that crawled out of your mom's snatch, right?

[Anonymous No.6303993]

>>6303925
he's right tough. He came out of his mom's snatch, you did, and also I. But guess who did also. All the thieves, murderers and rapist in the world and also hitler. All of wich doesn't mean anything.

I love my mom, but giving birth to me doesn't make her the most fabulous and special woman in the world.

She's still a poor woman that worked all her life, doesn't know shit about things, hell doesn't even know how to hold a conversation properly, or even think. And spends her free time getting drunk.

There you go, can you now say that my mom is the most special creature on earth ?

Iron willed ? Yes. She's been trough hell and back. Special ? not even a bit.

[Anonymous No.6304014]

>>6303777
Oh poor poor first world woman that gets equal pay and can walk down the street without having to worry about being murdered. Poor sad oppressed woman that gets maternity leave and lives linger than men. My heart goes out to poor first world women. Boo hoooo

[Anonymous No.6304020]

>>6303916
Neither can women on their own dumbass. Sperm is needed.
God you're so fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.6304040]

>>6304014
What point are you trying to make?

[Anonymous No.6304071]

>>6304040
MY heart goes out to the poor oppressed women that get recognized in their fields for being women. Or that they have to go through the humiliation of getting grants to enter fields and further their careers! Oh the agony that the first world woman suffers when she doesn't want to work as much as a guy and earns less in a life time. God how hard it is for women.

[Anonymous No.6304098]

>>6304071
You haven't made a point in any of this. No one said it was hard for women in first world countries, they just don't get a lot of recognition. You can pick and choose little things, but throughout human history women have been neglected almost entirely. I'm not some SJW faggot, but I'm also not some delusional angry 19 year old kid sitting on his computer all day and complaining that he doesn't have a gf.

[Anonymous No.6304119]

>>6304098
Thank you so much anon for bringing up the plight of the oppressed women of first world countries! God if it wasn't for you and your bravery on that keyboard of fate, Woman everywhere might not see a glimmer of equality! Goddess bless those women in the culinary field that don't get recognized like most others but they are oppressed because of their golden vagina, oh the humanity!

[Anonymous No.6304246]

>work as kitchenhand/bitch in Dad's bistro after school for free feed
>he has four chefs, one is female
>one day she tries to make whipped cream
>left the machine on and accidentally made butter
>gets told not to waste it and to make sure it's used in some way
>spends half of the rest of the shift crying in the office trying to eat 6L of butter

They aren't in kitchens because they are fatties who just want to eat butter all day, they also lack the strength to carry bags of potatoes.

[Anonymous No.6304357]

>>6301892
Women as a whole don't work as long or hard as men.

[Anonymous No.6304695]

>>6303837
I mean shit I would penisize her but nah shes not that hot to me

[Anonymous No.6304731]

>>6304071

Except the women who do work as hard as guys do (while yes, I agree that women are more likely to be lazy and inept because they can get away with it) also make less money.

>>6304357

They do if they are the sort of women who are willing to get into something like working in a kitchen, as a mechanic, other difficult trades that require a lot of hours/etc. Most women won't put up with that shit because they are given the privilege to not have to; why work in a kitchen when you could be a watiress or bartender for 4x the money? Why learn how to work on cars or get into carpentry when you could just pay someone to do it? Not all women are complete pieces of shit though, just like not all men are hard workers. Most people of either gender are lazy worthless assholes.

[Anonymous No.6304735]

>>6304246
>>6304357

i work with 2 women in my kitchen

1 is a fat mexican who does her job fairly well but will be lazy if given the opportunity

the other is some young girl whos by far the 2nd most attractive person in the entire place (1st is some hafu waitress who looks like a fucking model) that works harder than just about anyone else in the kitchen.

so a least there are some women who have a good work ethic. she's fairly young too so I thought she'd be useless just like every young person we get in the kitchen because they're so fucking lazy.

[Anonymous No.6304739]

>>6304735
Every woman in my family works harder than I do. They're either doctors or in IT too. I have a shitty blue collar job. All I think of is that Simpsons episode where Lisa thinks she'll become retarded due to genetics.
Wait my aunt is a teacher.

[Anonymous No.6304744]

>>6304735
sounds like me, I started working in the kitchen when I was young. granted, I was not much for getting my hands dirty at the time, but I was inventive and eager to prove my efficiency, I worked my way up to main dish washer and handled mexican independance day a man down, never really doing enough to keep the place clean but not falling behind.

young people can be hard workers, I'd love to meet this person, but I'd probably just creep on her. The main problem I have as someone with good work ethic is that people who shirk food safety at every turn irritate the shit out of me.

[Anonymous No.6304771]

>>6302479
Of course. I never claimed to be a Michelin-starred chef or CEO or biglaw partner or international supermodel, though.

Those types of supercareers require sacrifices. If mommy isn't willing to sacrifice, then the supercareer doesn't happen.

[Anonymous No.6304787]

>>6301880
Because men are bastards that only respect their mothers/granmothers.

[Anonymous No.6304792]

>>6301880
Restaurants are a business/marketing business as much as cooking, if not more so.

[Anonymous No.6304800]

>>6301880

Because running a successful 3 michelin star restaurant is more like employing a military-style hierarchy for cooking than demonstrating your individual cooking skill as a chef.

It's not about how good the head chef is at the techniques of cooking, it's about how he can train his team/staff to be at the top of the industry.

[Anonymous No.6304806]

>>6301880
Cooking is basically chemistry and physics.

What's the m/f-ratio in those sciences?
See?

[Anonymous No.6304860]

The stereotype is that women are good cooks, not good chefs. Even when it comes to things like "Grandma's recipe", it's usually thought to be something traditional or passed down, not new and innovative. In that sense, women are often cast as almost the opposite of a chef- not creating new cuisine, but expertly preparing the same old things that they've been making forever.

As others have said, being a chef takes a lot more than being a good cook. That's part of why it's such a tough business in general- a chef will generally have a large or total share of recipe development, menu planning, purchasing, staff management, and the business side of the restaurant. Men succeed in that arena for the same reasons they succeed in administrative roles in general.

...And I don't know anything about Ina Garten as a chef, admittedly, but god damn her show is terrible. She's like a culinary Mr. Rogers. I feel like the show is paced so housewives can still follow it when they're zonked out on pills during the day.

[Anonymous No.6304992]

It's pretty obvious why.

As a head chef, you wake up at 5 am and get to the restaurant at 5:30 maybe 6. You start prepping for 3 hours until doors open.

You're crammed into a hot ass kitchen with like 4 or 5 other people. Keep in mind that most of them are alcoholics or drug addicts too, and you gotta keep them in line.

You make the same shit everyday. The optimism from your youth is completely shattered. Everyday there's a table that orders your bear steak with a perfect puree well done for their infants, and send it back and complain because it tastes like shit.

You work until 10 pm with only 15 minutes for lunch in the middle.

You do this for 7 days a week, for 5 years in a row. You get paid dog shit. Some nights the waitress who gets every fucking order wrong, does t know the menu, spends her entire time texting, and is generally incompetent at her job gets tips and makes more than you.

Tell me right now there are women lining up for this job.

Go ahead I'll wait

[Anonymous No.6305009]

women are waiting for the job https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYbmnCUu6kE

[Anonymous No.6305019]

>>6301892

damn, you rustled some jimmies my friend.

+1. you can see.

[Anonymous No.6305029]

>>6304992

WELL MAYBE IF THE MAJORITY OF THE POPULATION (VERY MUCH INCLUDING WOMEN THEMSELVES) WOULDN'T CONSTANTLY CONSISTENTLY

DISOCURAGE WOMEN

BY BITCHING ENDLESSLY THAT THEY HAVE NO STRENGTH

MAYBE

JUST MAYBE

THEY COULD BEGIN TO EXIST IN AN ENVIRONMENT

THAT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE THEY ARE CONSTANTLY CONSISTENTLY BEING

TORN

THE FUCK

APART

SO THEY CAN FEEL SAFE ENOUGH TO DEVELOP THE SENSE OF CONFIDENCE NECESSARY

TO DO

THE FUCKING THINGS

HOLY SHIT.

[Anonymous No.6305033]

>>6305029

you see it's so infectious i forgot to not use the word "bitch"

scary shit

[Anonymous No.6305035]

>>6305033
You've been baited.

Have be a good day

[Anonymous No.6305042]

>>6305035

not really, it helps to rant either way

thanks i will

[Anonymous No.6305049]

>>6303534
They're pickled figs.

[Anonymous No.6305094]

>>6305029
dis fuggn mad cunt, top kek

pop some midol, take a bath, and listen to some zen music, jesus lol

[Anonymous No.6305150]

>>6305094

man like

i never understood why people think it's funny to be fucking angry

because aggression is healthy

*shrug*

[Anonymous No.6305183]

>>6304992
you forgot to mention that you don't even start out as chef. I started as a dishwasher and work my literally dick off (though it's not as hot as the line thank god) and it'll take months to even get to food prep, for a little diner

[Anonymous No.6305187]

>>6302125

You just described small unit psychology.

[Anonymous No.6305232]

Some of you ladies need to get pregnant. Hit me up on snap pchat. Noblesavage21 :) I can be. of assistance. xD

[Anonymous No.6305901]

>>6304731
In lifetime earnings. It's not a product of sexism. >>6304731

[Anonymous No.6305909]

>>6304787
And? Why should I show some random women the same respect as I show my mom or grandma? My foremothers were great people. Why is that being a bastard?

[Anonymous No.6305915]

>>6305029
Tumblr go home.

[Anonymous No.6305916]

>>6305183
Thiss

[Anonymous No.6305932]

As a rule, women tend to avoid hard jobs unless the money is exceptional.

[Anonymous No.6305975]

>>6302173

This is the main reason there aren't women at the top of a lot of professions. The age that a career can really start to take off, when people start their own restaurant (or any business, for that matter), is more or less the same as the age that professionals have children. Women still do most of the childrearing, so more women in those professions leave the workplace or scale back their commitment to something they can balance with having children. Men don't do that to the same extent, and it's next to impossible to get to the top of any career unless you're prepared to devote all of your time to it. This is why women are underrepresented in the top jobs. It has nothing to do with sexism in the workplace, and everything to do with an underlying 'sexism' in how society operates. That may not be something that can ever be changed, there's no denying that men and women have different urges and priorities when it comes to children. The only way is for men to be more involved in raising their kids, and for a better work-life balance to become the norm. Artificially making quotas for women in top positions does nothing to increase the supply of talented women, it only over rewards the few who are there already.

[Anonymous No.6305998]

>>6304992

I'm a female sous and this is entirely true. Women know they can get jobs like the waitresses have where they don't have to do shit and make way more than the cooks/chefs, so it's very rare that you find someone insane enough to prefer working on the line.

That said I think people should stop talking about how the restaurant industry is "so sexist", because it's really fucking not and saying that shit is just going to discourage women from getting into it to begin with.

[Anonymous No.6306778]

>>6301880

Inside of this single webm you will find all of the answers you seek.

[Anonymous No.6306795]

>>6306778

>waiting for stupid bitch to put it on full auto, lose control and blast the whole platoon.

stop triggering me

[Anonymous No.6306799]

>>6306778

that's funny as fuck, who's the chick?

[Anonymous No.6306802]

>>6306778
this is how the Russians fought in WW2

[Anonymous No.6306807]

>>6306778
Did her hand get caught when she worked the action to clear the chamber? Not sure why she started crying unless the round that came out scared her.

[Anonymous No.6306813]

>>6306795
simpsons did it

>also that captcha

[Anonymous No.6306816]

>>6306778

I just don't understand.

[Anonymous No.6306868]

>>6306816
once upon a time a woman was bad at <thing>. this proves that all women are always bad at <thing> and <not-things lumped together by an idiot>

That was what is called a stupid, pointless post, made by a fool.

[Anonymous No.6306874]

>>6306868

No, I meant the weebum. Why is she incapable of, you know, using the gun at least kinda alrightish? Why does she start to cry out of the blue? Why does it look like it's iJustine in some Russian bootcamp?

[Anonymous No.6306927]

Being a professional chef requires aggression, competition, and striving for the very pinnacle of flavor to help your food sell. That's more of a man thing.

Cooking at home is what you do to care for your family. It doesn't have to be the most elegant, it has to be nutritious and taste good enough, with a focus on less prep work and fewer dirty dishes. Because cooking is a necessity, not a paid profession. Women at home have no assistants except perhaps children. And yet they have been, historically, expected to have the food ready.

That's why.

[Anonymous No.6306971]

>>6302154
>evil women are forcing us into the jaws of death

People who hires miners don't want women anyway. MANual labor will always be slanted that way, even is we assumed that there were equal numbers of men and women applying to be miners.

Same with the restaurant biz, I suppose. Being a chef is demanding in a way men with their mighty testosterone are more likely to be able to handle. So that prevents any woman who COULD from ever being considered. And if she is accepted, she has to deal with a work environment that's entirely men, which can be distracting, demoralizing, or even dangerous.

[Anonymous No.6306977]

>>6306874
She's probably a reporter or a news anchor or something doing a story.

[Anonymous No.6306991]

>>6306971
Based on what? Information you pull from your circular reasoning ass? Women don't want to work long hours for shit pay and being not thanked for the work you do.
But nooo.........
>muh sexism
>WIMMINZ WILL never make it because they aren't getting the highest pay for the least work poor oppressed wimminz .
My heart really goes out to them

[Anonymous No.6307006]

>>6303015
>they also tend to call in sick much more than men, and many get bitchy way too fast when things don't go as planned
This is, partially, a self-perpetuating cycle. When people see themselves in a compromised position, they exaggerate their weakness to get free shit, because why the fuck not? It's not like they're ever gonna be on top, so manipulation is the way to go.

[Anonymous No.6307011]

>>6307006
So instead of actually busting ones ass to show your worth, just say fuck up and make a self fulfilling prophecy?
>BRILLIANT!

[Anonymous No.6307015]

>>6306991
>Based on what?
Men have more strength and endurance than women.

I'm not saying women are oppressed, I'm saying men doing manual labor doesn't necessarily represent oppression of men. It's just practical.

[Anonymous No.6307019]

>>6307011
It is kinda brilliant, if you ask me. Women are more manipulative because that way you can appear submissive while, in a way, being dominant, because people will do shit for you. But that's a compensation for a tough situation -- I wouldn't say it's actually the superior position to be in.

[Anonymous No.6307021]

Because men didn't just hunt, we also cooked and created. The "women are the cooks" thing only really came about since men started doing too much work to facilitate cooking for themselves when they had a spouse who was home and could do it for them. Otherwise it's actually ingrained in us, and any man that doesn't take up cooking is really wasting what we evolved to do.

[Anonymous No.6307031]

>>6307015
I wasn't arguing that. I was saying how it could be "dangerous " for women .

[Anonymous No.6307038]

>>6307019
I don't find it brilliant. It's just annoying and causes more cost than worth

[Anonymous No.6307047]

>>6305975
Although i agree on some points with you
>The only way is for men to be more involved in raising their kids
When divorce rates are all time high and the court system is more geared towards women instead of being neutral to gender, this will never happen.

Females fought hard for some privileges but those same privileges are the cause of women underachieving.

That's why internet-feminism/feminism in general is bullshit, women are digging their own grave trying to push the victim narrative asking for more privileges instead of asking for equality.

[Anonymous No.6307058]

>>6306874

maybe she's a celebrity doing a special tv spot or reality tv show or a pop journo or something.

[Anonymous No.6307067]

>>6307047
There are always people trying to piggy back off the latest way to gain power over others. tumblr-feminazism isn't feminism and it worries me that everybody takes it so seriously as a representation of an entire gender

I was gonna say the real strides are made quietly, but that's wrong. It's not that simple.

[Anonymous No.6307071]

>As a rule, women tend to avoid hard jobs unless the money is exceptional.
So why don't men just do this too? Sounds like you guys are a bunch of idiots mad at girls for taking the "easy way out" when you could do it too with little trouble
It's not a bad thing to value your effort and your time. Don't undersell yourselves, men, if you're the only ones strong enough to do the job, charge for it! You don't have to eat that disrespect just because that's how others set up the system

[Anonymous No.6307091]

>>6301880
So do the Michelin people have a bias or do the women need to up their game?

[Anonymous No.6307093]

>>6307071
>So why don't men just do this too
For one thing, society is still set up to encourage babies, and women are usually busy doing that. Men can't get that kind of "free pass". Some kind of work is required to live.

>if you're the only ones strong enough to do the job, charge for it
If we do, mexicorns will take our jerbs.

[Anonymous No.6307167]

>>6307067
That is feminist and feminism though. Those people are the ones being loudest and pushing what feminism is. Instead of brushing it under the rug, they should push them out and condemn them, not just go nafalt

[Anonymous No.6307212]

>>6307071
>Why don't men do this too?
Because we like to make money without having to create a union.
>a bunch of idiots mad at girls for taking the "easy way out"
Nobody's mad at them for that. When they start complaining about the $0.75 to every dollar myth is when it gets even better.
>value your effort and your time
This assumes a man with low testosterone. Men value time spent being angry and competitive for results. At the end of the day, when we see a job well done, it's all worth it.
>if you're the only ones strong enough to do the job, charge for it!
There's a ton of other dudes strong enough to do the job that will suck the dick of whoever to get it. Having a roof over my head's a bit more of a priority.

You're either naive, a child, or a woman - I'm being repetitive here. Harder work + moving up the ladder = better pay. This is elementary shit here.

[Anonymous No.6307219]

>>6301887
/thread

[Anonymous No.6307267]

>>6307212
>better pay
and that's what life is alllllllll aboooooooout isn't it, buddy? isn't it

[Anonymous No.6307277]

>>6307267
No but it helps a lot you you would be naive to think otherwise

[Anonymous No.6307282]

>>6301892
I saved your picture...

[Anonymous No.6307284]

>>6307267
Money pays for clothing, food, entertainment, travel, sex, housing, drugs, reservations, celebrations of love and/or family, land, information, electricity, and pretty much everything else.

So yeah, the current world is about money. Stop being stupid.

[Anonymous No.6308134]

>>6307212
The $0.75 per $1.00 isn't a myth, it's true.

The only thing wrong about it is that your average SJW thinks that your average woman is paid 25 cents less onaverage than a man because the big bad business owner is a sexist pig and not because your average woman not only works less hours, but does not work as many days or as hard of a job in comparison to your average man.

[Anonymous No.6308139]

>>6307267

it's about enough money to live on, yeah

[Anonymous No.6308195]

>>6308134
That's a lifetime earnings gap which is not the same as a wage gap. Those are choices not sexism. Before some tumblr snowflake says
>but society says blank blank sexism and pressure .
No they have a choice still and and choose not to have children.

[Anonymous No.6308243]

>>6302251
To bad the most recent polls show that only about 19% of the US population considers itself feminist
Try harder :^)

[Anonymous No.6308286]

>>6301880
Just because men are better cooks doesn't mean women are worse. She's just as good as any man, there's nothing biological about cooking skill.
It's probably decided by a man anyway who is threatened by womanly power, realizing they're rising up and being all that they can be. And better.

[Anonymous No.6308308]

Jesus christ this thread. Why is it that whenever there is a discrepancy of gender in a workplace it's sexism? There have been countless studies that prove that men and women have different preferences and working habits. Maybe you could argue the sexism thing back in the 70s when it was an actual issue, but when society is so anti-sexist and accommodating to women as it is now, I don't see how you can argue that. You can't just take flat numbers on the surface, you have to see the underlying reason behind things. Is it sexism preventing men from going into nursing? Obviously not. Women compared to men value downtime and time with their children more. When being a chef requires many hours of labor intensive, high stress work, I can't imagine that women would really want to.

[Anonymous No.6308390]

>>6307047

I agree, equality in the divorce courts is important. In some ways it's just a reflection of the fact that women remain the primary carer and men the breadwinner in most families, so until that ceases to be the case, men are more likely to be the ones paying child support. This is why, as well, we need paternity leave and maternity leave to be the same, so that employing a woman isn't a risk. It's also why we need employment law which makes it difficult and costly for an employer to keep you in the office for more than 40 hours a week, and tax incentives for companies which provide childcare and flexible working for both genders.

[Anonymous No.6308417]

I hate women so goddamn much

[Anonymous No.6308447]

Taylor Swift is such a smug bitch.

[Anonymous No.6308467]

It's easy. Both young women and men have a profound sense of entitlement; thinking they are entitled to all the best things with nothing but arrogance and egoism to back it up.

Get fucked, faggots. Taylor Swift looks like she has never worked hard in her life besides intentionally putting emotional strain on herself, which is exactly what she looks like: a emotional mess.

[Anonymous No.6308497]

>>6301880
I'm not reading this whole fucking thread. But I think that women are just less likely to want to cook as a profession. Women are more likely to want to cook for the people they love. All the Abuelitas in the world, "just like mother used to make", I fucking love to cook for my family, but the idea of doing it for a living sounds like fucking miserable drudgery.

[Anonymous No.6308558]

anyone got a link to op's vid?

[Anonymous No.6308565]

>>6301892
Or maybe, just maybe, the genders and races of people are better at different things, and there isn't a global conspiracy to keep everyone but white males down.

I dunno, just trying to use Occam's Razor here.

[Anonymous No.6308575]

>>6305029
Don't post this on your tumblr, it's embarrassing

[Anonymous No.6308734]

>>6308565
>acknowledging that people discriminate = a global conspiracy to eliminate all white males

amazing

[Anonymous No.6308786]

Because it's blue collar tier work with long hours and shit pay. Exactly the kind of thing 95% of women painstakingly try to avoid.

[Anonymous No.6309367]

.>>6308734
Not sure if your joking or being a douche?

[Anonymous No.6309715]

>>6302180
>>6302170
Don't forget about India.

[Anonymous No.6309991]

>>6302577
what did beyonce say?
im not into american pop stars

[syn !!5auGoPfbzhy No.6310055]

>>6301880
it's not because they lack skill or intelligence or even because they are women.

it's because m chefs and ceos are the way they are because of testosterone, and women disproportionally lack it.

you might fall backwards into one m star, but more than that requires drive.

[Anonymous No.6310094]

>>6310055

>it's not because they're women
>it's just because they're female

shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.6310875]

Swifty taking over /ck/. Can she get a cooking show pls?

[Anonymous No.6310878]

>>6310875
>creepy neckbeards spilling over from /g/

fixed for ya

it's probably wat or one of his tripfag spam gang

[Anonymous No.6310898]

>>6310878
>creepy neckbeards

Nothing wrong with posting the Aryan Queen, Fatty McChunkiechunks.

[Anonymous No.6310922]

>>6301880
does she always have to have that fucking rat face

[Anonymous No.6310935]

>>6310898
>implying I'm not fitter than you
Don't stockpile pictures of attractive people. Instead, be attractive.

[Anonymous No.6310942]

>>6310922
Millions of men want to fuck her. You are posting on a japanese food prep image board about how you find her disgusting. Sort your shit out eunuch. If you're not a male, read your post again, it will show you exactly why you don't get laid, you fatty.

[Anonymous No.6310984]

>>6310942
>implying you've ever kissed a girl
Speaking from experience? Not the guy you're arguing with. She's very pretty. But you're pathetic.

[Anonymous No.6310998]

>>6310984
Pudgy Pattie, pls go.

>muh neckbeard
>muh kissless virgin

[Anonymous No.6311001]

Taylor Swift is a butterbody

[Anonymous No.6311007]

>>6311001
Hey Lena! I'm so proud that you re waiting to get married, it's so brave of you ^_^

[Anonymous No.6311023]

>>6310998
Keep flailing, chronic masturbator kun

[Anonymous No.6311038]

>>6311023
Stay negative, planetoid kun.

[Anonymous No.6311692]

>>6306971
You know "MANual" labour comes from the Latin word for hand, "manus", not from the word man, right?

[Anonymous No.6311742]

>>6310998
See >>6310935
Get your shit together, neckbeard