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6254479 No.6254479 [Reply] [Original]

¿Why do people who have never been to México, let alone taken local regional cooking classes on tradicional ingredientes indigenas con Méxican chefs like I have, have such negative feelings about a high quality fast casual chain that no one in his right mind would mistake for auténtica gastronómica Méxicana?

Chipotle provides a quick, predictable, reasonably priced wholesome meal in convenient locations for business folk in high density commercial districts, can't we just agree on that? It's like getting mad that your West Coast IPA doesn't convey the subtle taste of hallertau hops - well of course it doesn't, that's not what it's about.

>> No.6254485

I've been to Mexico. Food sucks rocks

>> No.6254490

Pretty much. People need to stop getting personally offended over things they had no part in creating. Nobody's going around saying Taco Bell is authentic Mexican food for fucks sake.

>> No.6254504

>>6254479
It's because they are fedoras , hipsters, or autismos that want to hate on something because it's not from a food truck and think it's authentic because they have a really warped view of Mexican cooking and Mexican / Mexican Americans.

>> No.6254562

>>6254479
0/10
Not enough subtlety.

>> No.6254750

>>6254504
I refuse to go to Chipotle. They don't even have authentic tacos de lengua (it's tongue, you should try it. totally epic!)

>> No.6254771

>>6254479
>Chipotle provides a quick, predictable, reasonably priced wholesome meal in convenient locations for business folk in high density commercial districts, can't we just agree on that?
Nope. It's fast food masquerading as something "wholesome". If you like fast food, fine. Enjoy your fast food. Plenty of folks do. But claiming your fast food is "wholesome" just because most of the ingredients are recognizable is kidding yourself.

>> No.6254781

>>6254485
Every major international food critic would be inclined to disagree with you.

>> No.6254782

>>6254750
>being this hipster.
I've tried tongue, it's not that special.

>> No.6254783

Really it's just not super tasty and pretty expensive. I'd rather get shittier non-chain Mexican food that will give me food poisoning for the next half a week over it because at least that has some sort of flavor.

>> No.6254786

You fake viral shitposters are worse than the actual viral faggots.

>> No.6254792

>>6254479
I don't know. I live in mexican neighborhood and eat a lot at so called "authentic" mexican restaurants. They're okay, but they're mostly all the same. Kinda like how chinese restaurants are all the same. Sure they are cheaper, but most hole in the wall taco joints use the cheapest shit quality ingredients they can source. Chiptole is miles ahead in terms of quality control, and they're ingredients tend to be much higher quality. I could care less about how "authentic" food is. I just want it to taste good and chipotle tastes good and is affordable considering the size of burrito you can get for the price

>> No.6254795

>>6254771
This.
I just read an article yesterday where they compared the nutritional content of typical Chipotle orders and it was no better if not WORSE than regular fast food places or hole in the wall mexican places. Even the veggie burrito had over 1000 calories in it. And, it's not even fucking good. I'd rather eat 1000 calories from my local taco stand where I can get a lengua or birria taco or torta with fucking delicious salsas and homemade chips, or a pambazo for less cost and better flavor.

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6254801

I just make my chipotle at home like this

>> No.6254802

>>6254795
>calories are bad

Shouldn't you be campaigning against vaccines or something?

>> No.6255172

Because social justice, and "feelings".

People think that because white people are cooking brown people's food, it's racist.

>> No.6255193

>>6254801
can you explain this pls, i have no idea whats going on

>> No.6255207

I had Chipotle once, it tastes like a lot of nothing and now I know why everyone there puts Tabasco on the stuff. Does fill you up though. Then again water fills you up too, and has less calories and more flavor.

>> No.6255212

>>6254792
>>6254485
This isn't even considered good trolling anymore. Almost every chef in the world or any authority of food has been to Mexico and said its one of the best cuisines in the world.

Its on par with china with diversity and tastes.

>> No.6255225

>>6254795
There's nothing wrong with eating 1000 calories you dipshit. And the macronutrient content of those 1000 calories is pretty decent for a fast food item.

>> No.6255226

>>6254802
Nice cherrypicking, faglord. NUTRITIONAL VALUE. It's not just about calories, dumbfuck. Also, as far as vaccines are concerned (since you went there), if you don't vaccinate yourself and your kids, you should be sterilized and quarantined.

>> No.6255229

>>6255207
LOL, this.
Chipotle is shit tier, face it soccermomfags.

>> No.6255230

>>6255193
might be wrong, but I think he is comparing chipotle burritos to uncooked rice in a sock.

>> No.6255235

>>6255172
Honestly , in terms people who can cook Mexican ranges by this


1)Mexican who has owned a restaurant/stall/has had some culinary experience in mexico

2)Foreigner who knows how to cook and has extensive knowledge in Mexican gastronomy

3)Mexican who knows howt to cook

4) Mexican-american

5)some wetback who doesn't know how to cook and wants to open a shit tier restaurant for easy money

>> No.6255236

>>6254479
Taco Bell is better

>> No.6255237

>>6255172
>the average perzyn thinks about "social justice" when ze's hungry

This is what pole smokers actually believe

>> No.6255291

look at this link

http://www.mobypicture.com/user/rick_bayless/view/17856833

Tell me, how many Mexican restaurants in your neighborhood use all of these ingredients their menu? Mexican food too hard to replicate outside of the country and the items will be limited

>> No.6255317

>>6254792
>so called

This was the most important part of your post.

Also, lol @ "all chinese restaurants are the same"

>> No.6255319

>>6254479
I hate Chipotle, and have been to Mexico. I was just within 100 feet of the border this morning.

>> No.6255321

>>6254479
peggy hill what are you doing on here?

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>>6254750

>totally epic

>> No.6255353

>>6255319
Tijuana and Juarez aren't "mexico" any more than Windsor is "canada"

>> No.6255354

>>6255226
explain how a chipotle burrito will have less or equal nutritional value to a big mac meal

>> No.6255364

>>6255353
Except that Tijuana has some of the best, if not best food in Mexico. That and most of the poor southern mexicans stop at tijuana to get a shit tier job there, so Tijuana gets a great deal of food diversity from up north, south and local products such as seafood.

>> No.6255406

>>6255354
>muh calories!

>> No.6255525

>>6254479
>predictable, reasonably priced wholesome meal

lol, no. It's shit fast-food marketed to yuppies, hipsters, and 4channers too fucking stupid to know better and I wish the faggot who makes sure there's always a Chipotle thread on the board would shoot just himself in the face.

>> No.6255528

>>6255525
>avocados scare me

>> No.6255531

Chipoltaze

>> No.6255587

>>6255528
>thinks fast food is healthy because he puts Jason Mraz's over-priced avocados on them

you're the same breed of stupid who thinks Subway is magically healthy if you add avocado to their iceberg lettuce and chewy truck-ripened tomato shitfests

>> No.6255589

>>6255587
>I associate common foods with their fast food menu advertising campaigns

You flyovers are hilarious

>> No.6255593

>>6255354
A Shitpolte burrito probably has more nutritional value than a Big Mac, certainly, but that doesn't make it okay. They are both shit tier fast food, and I don't eat at either place.

>> No.6255597

>>6255593
THIS

>> No.6255602

>>6255589
>I think Los Angeles is flyover

retard

>> No.6255603

>>6254750
THIS

>> No.6255604

>>6255602
>Los Angeles trying to be relevant

I know you're technically on the coast, but you're basically the Texas of California

>> No.6255610

>>6255604
>too retarded to even think of a coherent metaphor

>> No.6255611

>>6255604
Dont' fucking insult Texas like that. If anything Sacramento is the Texas of California. It's full of opinionated Republicans with conceal and carry licences and muh freedoms. Los Angeles is like....if Brooklyn and Miami had a retarded child with ADD and narcissistic personality disorder.

>> No.6255614

>>6255610

It's an analogy, not a metaphor. Stop watching those live celebrity car chases and read a book or something.

>> No.6255616

>>6255610
>so dumb he doesn't even know the difference between a metaphor and analogy

>> No.6255621
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>> No.6255622

>>6255621

Who the fuck is this? Some kind of country music star who learned about avocados from a subway ad? No one cares, flyover (this includes you LA)

>> No.6255625

>>6255622
http://www.ecorazzi.com/2013/07/01/jason-mraz-supplies-avocados-to-chipotle-keeps-a-few-to-eat/

>> No.6255629

>>6255625
>implying I'm going to click on your blog spam

nah

>> No.6255634

chipotle fags in a nutshell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABFtbYKW-QY

>> No.6255640

>>6255625
>some fag supplies materials to a business
I guess chipotle customers think this is an interesting thing, but I'm pretty sure food places have gotten ingredients for a couple of thousand years now

>> No.6255644

>>6254479
Is that Walter White in the pic?

>> No.6255647

>>6255640
as soon as an organic free range chicken breast passes through the loading dock of chipotle, it becomes garbage that I would never eat *tips fedora*

>> No.6255651

>>6254750

>totally epic

You had me at refuse

>> No.6255652

>>6255640
not organically grown cruelty-free avocados grown by a vegan indie musician for their wholesome fast-casual (insert other bullshit catch-words Chipotle fags eat up here) restaurants

>> No.6255654

>>6254504
Sorry but people wanting to be factually correct know chipotle isn't actually mexican food. I'm not angry that people call it that like op is suggesting but it'd be like calling noodles and ketchup spaghetti. It's clearly not. I don't care but it's clearly not.

>> No.6255664

>>6254792
I guarantee what you find to be authentic isn't.

>> No.6255673

why is their marinade and salsa so inconsistent

>because they're made from fresh ingredients and fresh ingredients vary naturally you'd know this if you ate more fresh fast-casual and less prepared foods blah blah blah

so why don't they just alter the quantity of ingredients to make the taste consistent

>...because it comes half-prepared in bags and we just mix the shit according to the employee guide cards

lol

>> No.6255675

Why does anyone ever care about what's authentic or not? What is the reason to seriously give a shit. You can't put jalapenos on authentic pizza or sushi, so authentic pizza and sushi are not esdpecially valuable

>> No.6255681

>>6255604
Lmao so Los Angeles is fly over now? That is the weakest fuckin bait.

>> No.6255704

>>6255654
No one's saying chiplote is authentic dude, you even read?

>> No.6255705

>muh "chipotle is not real food, muh big mac calories, inauthentic!" people

Shouldn't you be sucking some cocks right now? Where do you guys find the time to complain? It takes a lot of semen to hit your daily organic protein needs.

>> No.6255710

>>6255675
I think the thing is make all the Americanized shit you want but don't pass it off as authentic? Like make American Chinese food but don't call it actual Chinese. idk

>> No.6255719

>>6255710
>Americanized shit

Oooh now we find the root of the issue. A mad euroscum or self-hating liberal faggot.

Get over yourself. People like it because it tastes good, stop raining on the parade, nigger.

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>>6255719
>it tastes good

>> No.6255730

>complaining about "authentic" food
kek

Anywho I don't like Mexican very much
It just all tastes the same to me so I get bored fast

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>reasonably priced
>8 dollars for rice and meat on a tortilla

>> No.6255733

>>6255212
nice try jose

its all just variations of beans / rice / corn with some sour cream or whatever.

mexican food is delicious but it lacks true variety and its ridiculously oil ridden.

anyone wonder why mexicans are right now the most obese nation in the world?

>> No.6255735

>>6255710
Fact: authentic is nothing more than a marketing term paper these days. You're being ass blasted because ethnic food is sold in America now it's "Americanized." By your own autismo logic, if Chinese immigrants move to ameriland and open a shop it's less authentic because of regional land masses?

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>>6255733
>anyone wonder why mexicans are right now the most obese nation in the world?

Because American corporations invaded and shoved their garbage down everyone's throats

>> No.6255738

>>6255710
>Chinese food
>authentic
says who?
Do the Chinese go around calling the dishes they make "authentic"?
Honestly authentic seems like a meaningless buzzword used for tourism

>> No.6255739

>>6255733
>>6255733
Because they are the world's largest consumer of soft drinks. That and the poverty. Your conception of Mexican food is way off

>> No.6255744

>>6255733
>>6255730
>a national cuisine that is, in Adrià's opinion, "one of the best in the world," although he cautions, "if you try Mexican food outside of Mexico it loses the detail."

Opinion discarded

>> No.6255745

>>6255738
It's marketing

>> No.6255747

Why is Mexican food so highly rated?
Is it cause it is next door to America and has a food culture?

>> No.6255750

>>6255744
I've had Mexican food in Mexico
It literally all tastes very similar

>> No.6255757

>>6255737
Or poor diets, but hey blame something to blame. Aren't you late for a occupy Wal street protest because your art degree didn't entitle you to a job?

>> No.6255759

>>6255757

You can trace the increase in obesity to the rise in consumption of American goods. Look it up.

> your art degree didn't entitle you to a job?

Cute, but I make more than you.

>> No.6255762

>>6255747
>>6255750

Because all the chefs in the world who has been to Mexican consider one of the best cuisines in the world

from former powerhouse Ferran adria to Redzepi

http://uk.phaidon.com/agenda/food/articles/2013/october/01/ferran-adrias-5-favourite-places-to-eat-in-the-world/

http://uk.phaidon.com/agenda/food/articles/2014/september/15/why-rene-redzepi-says-mexico-is-the-next-big-thing/

>> No.6255770

>>6255762
>Because two articles on the same site

>> No.6255773

>>6255759
Walmart = obesity? Do you even logic? No you don't. You shown that. Poor diet is a huge reason not American companies.
Monopoly money and good karma don't count as income.
So was the first thing you said after art school was" would you like fries with that?"

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6255777

>>6255738

"authentic" is a buzzword, i completely agree.
every time i go to a newly open chinese restaurant that has these logos for their dishes or w/e i cringe internally. chinese american dishes and chinese dishes (you know, from people living in china) are completely different.

cont.

>> No.6255783

>>6255773

The NAFTA effect, actually, of which Wal Mart is a symptom. What was your adjusted gross income last year?

>> No.6255789

>>6255770
http://www.clubtengohambre.com/mexico-city-offers-the-best-street-food-on-planet-earth-andrew-zimmern/

>Mexico and China have the two most complex cuisines vertically and horizontally. I could shoot whole seasons in either place


Mexico is the perfect place for a gastronomic capital.

Tradition. On par with the best
Innovation. Not only does Mexico have some of the best traditional food, but home to some of the best restaurants as well. Mexico used to be a place where the only place you can get decent food is at someone's home, but restaurants are flourishing in the major cities/destinations

Street food: Bangkok, Hong Kong, penang, etc etc are well known for their street food along with Mexico city and such

and street food

>> No.6255795

>>6255783
>I sadly try to say things I know nothing about.
Fixed that for you sport.
Also to nice b8 m8 no matter what I say you'll just one up it. I'm not stupid

>> No.6255798

I always liked Chipolata. OK with me.It's like P.F.?Chang.Again,ok.I like Mex and Tex-mex Food. I have no rub against any. I even like the Japanese steak and seafood places. Good stuff, mostly. ( i decline bay scallops, my fault, not theirs, sickest i have felt) All life has a risk. eating included.. I reside in Western NC. US. We are blessed with many people, and cultures. But it is incumbent to look out for your self. I do not mean that rudely.If you have allergies,pre existing conditions, etc you need to let someone know. I like it here. But red, yellow, black or white (jezze, telling my age) if you don't tell, people can't help you.NC is pretty forgiving, despite what you might have heard. And can be expensive. Particularly Asheville, Buncombe county.I'd like to tell you every thing is perfect. no. taxes are sky high. but still good. Moan and bitch anywhere..

>> No.6255800

>>6255795

Thought so.

>> No.6255802
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>>6255733
>its all just variations of beans / rice / corn with some sour cream or whatever.

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>>6255800
You're just posting weak b8 m8 .
You're just talking out of your ass

>> No.6255848

>>6255664
i said i don't care whether things are authentic or not. the word is totally meaningless in the context of food. cuisines are changing all the time

what would you consider "authentic american" cuisine? a sloppy joe? spam on a bun? apple pie? a 3 star meal at alinea?

"authenticity" is one of the dumbest concepts and when you actually think about it it's totally meaningless.

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>>6255848
>mfw it's a trick question because American is by definition inauthentic

That was easy, next?

>> No.6255858

>>6255664
then where does one find "authentic mexican" in america? is it even possible? I've been to dozens of mexican restaurants in my life. I live in a neighborhood where half the residents were born in Mexico, and a good portion of the other half are first or second generation immigrants. the restaurants are all staffed with mexicans and often their menus are in spanish

fuck "authenticity"
there is no such thing, it's a bogus concept

>> No.6255870

>>6255858
name me some places you visited or wher eyou currently live and i'll find you the closest thing you can find in that area

>> No.6255877

>>6255852
why?

>>6255870
pilsen, chicago

>> No.6255905

>>6255877

You live in Pilsen? For how long, a month? I can name a restaraunt in Pilsen right now that will serve you authentic mexican if you are willing to try it. The places you're eating are self-described "hole in the wall" taco joints, they arent making authentic food theyre making food they think your greasy gringo ass will love.

>> No.6255915

>>6255905
I've lived there for 3 years at 18th and damen

>> No.6255927

>>6255877

>>6255877
you live in pilsen and cant distinguish the difference between mexican and mex-american?

holy fuck nigga u live in amexican mecca>

>> No.6255933

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>> No.6255970

>>6255915
Carnitas Urupan
Pollo Express
Reyes de octolan
And the little food court in casa del pueblo

If you're wanting to drive a little more for more authentic Mexican : Cemitas Puebla in
Humboldt Park, Birrieria Zaragoza in Archer heights (best goat dish ever), and sol de mexico in cragin

Most of these places specialize in one dish, though

>> No.6256019

>>6255970
what the fuck is "authentic mexican" about pollo express?

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>>6256019
its a restaurant based on sinaloan style chicken aka grilled over charcoal and sold in open restaurants or a street stands all over Mexico. Pollo Loco was also based on this style of chicken. Any other questions?

>> No.6256335

>>6256045
So grilling chicken over charcoal is "authentic sinaloan cuisine"? I do that all the time.

Why bother caring if something is authentic or not? If it tastes good, eat it. That's my motto. There's no fedora tipping and no autistic fits to be had.

>> No.6256369

>>6256335
so making pasta is considered italian authentic cooking? I do that all the time

And I don't have a problem with food authentic or not , I do have a problem with a few things.

1) Traditional Mexican is better then Tex Mex on average.

2)Most tex mex is passed as mexican even if its not.

3) most tex mex is garbage. I would rather eat hipster innovated Mexican such as Korean tacos than hard shell ground beef tacos.

The problem for me is quality of the product and tex mex usually lacks in quality

>> No.6256391

>>6256369
Who brought tex-mex into this discussion?

Tex-mex is it's own cuisine developed by mexicans living in texas over several generations. There's also a socal mexican cuisine, developed by multiple generations of mexicans living there.

In a city like Chicago, there really haven't been multiple generations of mexican immigrants, just one or maybe two. They haven't really developed their own cuisine like other mexican immigrant populations elsewhere have.

Look, I don't mind mexican food at all. But when I go to Chipotle I can be assured that I'm not going to end up biting into some nasty piece of gristle or some little bone shard, which is something that happens far more frequently than I'd like when I go to more "mexican" restaurants.

just chill out dude and take your autism medication

>> No.6256394

>>6254479
Have you had any lengua recently, anon? :^)

>> No.6256398

>>6254792
Fun fact: Most "chinese" restaurants aren't actually Chinese mostly, but Chinese-inspired, and altered to better suit Americans' taste.

Most Japanese food is at least not harsh to Western taste, so it can come mostly unmolested.

Mexican suffers the same fate as Japanese, altered to fit Western tastebuds more than anything.

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>>6255877
>chicago


Sorry bud, not going to find any authentic cuisine in a flyover shithole like chicago

>> No.6256409

>>6256398
Koreans cook most of the Japanese food in the US.

>> No.6256415

>>6256409
>tfw you go to a sushi place and they all speak kimchi
;_;

>> No.6256440

>>6256391
I know my Mexican food history m8. Probably more than 99% of /ck/. And yes there's a so cal cuisine (carne asada fries, asian fusion, chicano style tacos, adoption of the fish taco, seafood tostadas, puffy tacos, burritos tepayac etc etc) but that's not on topic

What your problem is you're eating mexican food from wetbacks who've never had any culinary experience, never cooked in Mexico, never owned or in a restaurant/food stall/food stand in Mexico. These people will buy shit tier ingredients and shit tier preparations in order to get easy money. Once you start going to the right places you'll see that these people that have made mole in a food stall in oaxaca or sold birria in their homes will give you the superior preparation and give you better ingredients even if it will cost you more. (zaragozas's goat for example). There's a reason why Traditional Mexican has better reviews and has 4-5stars +michelin stars in the US

this could be said for any cuisine as well.

>> No.6256442

>>6256408
name 5 places m8 with better mexican. 5 pls

>> No.6256469

>>6256440
how does owning some shit little roach infested food stand in some cartel run shit hole of a town in mexico give you some kind of superiority?

do you want to know a funny thing? the world's most acclaimed chef of mexican cuisine is a white american !!! rick bayless!!!!

>> No.6256496

>>6256469
>>6256469
>>6256469
http://www.theworlds50best.com/list/1-50-winners/pujol

Rick Bayless isn't even in the top 100 restaurants in the US

0/10 trolling m8

Like I said, my knowledge of mexican food goes beyond your shitty taqueria. No one in here is going to educate me on Mexican food.

>> No.6256511

>>6256442
Do you mean excluding California, Texas, and Colorado? Because otherwise it's too easy.

>> No.6256517

>>6256511
Well Chicago has 2 Mexican restaurants with a Michelin and second in population of Mexican migrants outside of California and texan cities so I don't know where you want to go when you bring up colorado kek

>> No.6256521

The fuck is it about Mexican food that gets people here so damn riled up anyways?

>>6256517
Southern half of Colorado has Mexicans all over the place. I'd know I live there.

>> No.6256530

>As of the 2000 U.S. Census there were 786,000 residents of Mexican origin in Cook County, giving it the largest ethnic Mexican population in the United States that is not in the Southwest and the third largest ethnic Mexican population of any county after Los Angeles County, California and Harris County, Texas. As of that year the number of ethnic Mexicans in Cook County is greater than that of each of the metropolitan areas of Acapulco, Cuernavaca, Chihuahua, and Veracruz.[4]

As of the same year the City of Chicago had over 530,000 residents of Mexican descent. The Mexicans, as of 2000 and 2010, are the largest Hispanic and Latino ethnic group in Chicago

>> No.6256623

>>6256408
>busiest airport in the world
>flyover

I know you're just a troll who constantly uses the term because you think it's funny but I genuinely hope you contract and die of AIDS

>> No.6256641

>>6256623
its busy because so many people are flying over shitcago

>> No.6256684

Chipotle is right next to my condo and I have no problem shelling out $10/meal for a bowl, chips and drink. It's consistent and filling. Also quicker than any other fast food. How mad are you faggots right now?

>> No.6256694

>>6256641
That's not how an airport works.

I honestly, truly hope that you would die and spare us your shitposting. If someone were to break into your home, gouge out your eyes, urinate into the sockets and set you on fire I would send that person flowers.

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>>6256684

>> No.6256724

>>6256623

The busiest airport in the world is in Atlanta.

>> No.6256731

>>6255719
I was taking a guess at what the other guy was trying to say. I don't give a shit if stuff is authentic or not, as long as it tastes good and not chock full of msg

>> No.6256822

>>6256724
>O'Hare is the busiest airport in the world by number of takeoffs and landings—a title it reclaimed in 2014, beating out Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport (which had the title from 2005-2013).

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>>6256496
>No one in here is going to educate me on Mexican food.
Look here puto pujol is a joke!
How can anyplace that serves tacos and be considered the best without the necessary pulques that a good taco deserves?

Why can they not offer pulques at pujol??
Reminder the best mexican meal is by invite family and friends only

>> No.6257067

>>6254479
More like they provide a slow, sloppy, predictably shitty, over priced, half-assed "meal" in semi-conveient locations for people who can't be assed to make a lunch for themselves, but thing they're eating better than McDonald's.

>> No.6257082

Why is "predictable" something we value in our food anyway? Why not "interesting"?

>> No.6257098

>>6257082
Because you want something you know you will enjoy on that 30 minute lunch break instead of a disappointing meal at some place you've never tried before.

>> No.6257220

>>6254750
Screw lengua--they don't have chicharron! Nothing like a burrito filled with fried pork rinds. :D

>> No.6257246

Ay mama! Their tendies were spicy and made my mouth hurt ;_;

>> No.6257364

>>6257082
>i have never worked at any job ever

>> No.6257549

>>6256398
>Western

You seem a little confused. Mexico is a western country.

Are you the one who thought Korea was in SEA the other day?

>> No.6257567

>>6254479
Because there's a place near me that's just as cheap and like at least 20× better in terms of quality and flavor

>> No.6257618

>mfw any mexican food thread ends up with Chicago gaylords shitting up the thread with "muh mexicans and their fudz".
It's funny how proud they are of that. Wait about 10 more years, you'll see how that works out....

>> No.6257629

>>6254795
my chipotle bowls always clock in at ~600 calories, and if I make them any bigger they're good for two meals. learn some portion control if you're concerned about calorie counting.

>> No.6257631

>>6254490
taco bell is authentic mexican food.

>> No.6257633

>>6257567
well such places are incredibly rare in the nice parts of the country

>> No.6257644

>>6257629
It's funny how everyone overlooks the part about nutritional value. It's not just about calories. That selective reasoning.......

>> No.6257676

>>6257618
>see how that works out

How will it work out? They won't have to eat their god awful "italian beef" and tomato casseroles anymore? Seems like a pretty good deal for everyone involved, especially culturally deprived, gastronomically impoverished white people.

You could say it's a sort of food gentrification,fixing the food desert that is the midwest.

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>>6257644
sorry for not addressing "nutritional value;" while shitpotle's food is super sodium laden it's not nutritionally void unless you're a white rice, chicken & cheese burrito baby.

pic related: dat vitamin a, vitamin c, complete protein, fiber etc. this is the bowl I eat every other day and it's filling af

CAPTCHA: meemeed

>> No.6257686

>>6257549
Lol, look it's the chink again. Hey everyone, it's the chink that thinks Korea and Japan are the same thing, everyone laugh!

>> No.6257694

>>6257686
>damage control intensifies

>> No.6257706

>>6257694
tips fedora

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>>6257706
>burns another textbook

>> No.6257731

>>6257726
>>6257706

IF YOU KIDS DON'T SHUT UP THIS INSTANT I'M TURNING THIS CAR AROUND AND HEADING STRAIGHT TO CHIPOTLE

>> No.6257770

>>6257063
Not anymore . Maybe in the 20th century. its 2015 now and food culture is evolving. Restaurants are getting bigger in Mexico, and no longer are the days of french being the only option of fine dining in Mexico. And yes Pujol has pulque but mezcal is better.

http://www.eater.com/2013/1/11/6496319/ricardo-munoz-zurita-on-his-new-dictionary-and-the-richness-of

The purist says it all

>I'm extremely interested in it. I would be a total retrograde to say I was only interested in the past. There are chefs like Enrique Olvera, Benito Molina, Guillermo Gonzalez Beristain that are responsible for one of the richest and most beautiful periods in Mexican cooking. These guys are doing great things.

>It's wonderful to see that these chefs of the new Mexican cuisine are already inspiring even younger cooks. This wasn't the case when I started. There was a time, not too long ago, when people were either doing French with Mexican ingredients or Mexican in a French way. It didn't really work. We're in a far better place now.

>> No.6257889

>>6257770
>Pujol has pulque but mezcal is better

I hate people who say shit like this

They're completely different drinks, so unless your relationship with alcohol is just to get TOTALLY WASTED MANNN you drink what you want based on the situation, not because Drink X is fundamentally better than Drink Y

>> No.6257898

>>6257676
Along with gangs, cartels, even more crime than is already there. BUT HEY, THE FOOD IS GOOD.

>> No.6257902

>>6257889
Yeah, I hate it when other people have opinions, too, dude.

>> No.6257943

>>6257889
>>6257889
Its just my tastes m8. I would rather sip on some mezcal before eating tacos and while so instead of pulque.

>>6257770
And to get this straight, I like Pujol, but its not the best Mexican in Mexico, heck, its not even the best for its genre.

I hate this stigma that the only place to get good Mexican food has to be eaten in a wedding or a gathering or in some small fonda. This isn't the case anymore. Good Mexican food can be found everywhere in Mexico, not just your aunt's grandma's home.

The best place to find good Mexican food is from specialists who add their own flair /touch to the tradition

A good example would be Nicos in DF, ye ne nisa in oaxaca, las mercedes in guanajuato mariscos ruben in tijuana etc etc

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>>6257770
>more progressive Mexican
confirmed cocksucking blasphemous faggot

>> No.6258207

>>6255230
I like to microwave uncooked rice in a sock.

It makes for a good warm compress for soreness

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>>6255212
>on par with China

So you mean Andrew Zimmern. That's only one, pal.

>> No.6258225

>>6258203
>>6258203
There is nothing wrong with cooking Mexican food in a different setting, get with the times, tizoc

>> No.6258233

>>6255212
nope

over spiced crap compadre, is how most anyone with a palate would describe your slop

>> No.6258239

All mex restaurants that sell authentic stuff jack up the price and it's a fancy restaurant.

You won't find a place that sells authentic at normal to low prices.

It's all taquerias with burritos and tacos and nachos.

>> No.6258241

Does Chipotle even claim to be Mexican? People forget the US southwest, which has a long history of very similar foods. Burritos were an invention of people of northern mexico/the american southwest.


Also -

>being obsessed with authenticity

>2015

Stop being retarded.

>> No.6258249

>>6258233
>Mexican cuisine is one of the best in the world – without any doubt. Some people may find that surprising because if you try Mexican food outside of Mexico it loses the detail

get rekt fgt

>> No.6258251

>>6258239
Would you consider the 10-20 dollar range to be expensive?

>> No.6258258

>>6258251
The 17-20 might be expensive depending on what the dish is.

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>>6258258
pic related. This isn't even a fancy restaurant, its like your typical mexican seafood joints, except for the fact that they bring their seafood from sinaloa and its mostly fresh compared to most mexican joints

>> No.6258298

>>6258287
well there ain't none of that around here boy.

>> No.6258333

>>6258287

>mfw the menu is 90% shrimp

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>>6258333
a-atleast they have smoked marlin

>> No.6258553

>>6258225
fuck off with that promoting of non-traditionalist shit
what are a jew shill

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>>6258287
>words in english

fucking dropped

I don't even see any lengua on there, confirmed for americanized watered down garbage for soccer moms without ANY appreciation for authentic culture

>> No.6258571

>>6258564
>lengua
>in a seafood restaurant

Your shitposting is horrible.

>> No.6259244

Hi, I come to /ck/ from another dimension to remind everyone that mexican food is shit tier. Even another dimension-mex is devoid of interest.

>> No.6259256

>>6257629
Its the tortillas there, they have 300 cals alone, some people get them double wrapped too.

>> No.6259272

>>6254479
I am a Mexican and I get it when Americans tell me my people make this food that I've only tasted at gringo barbeques, that they are annoying.

It's called Texmex maybe.

>> No.6259276

> ingredientes indigenas
>auténtica gastronómica Méxicana

Adding diacritics to the words would be nice touch to emphasize the authenticity of your statement if only those words reflected grammar.

In any case I don't care if gringos like shit food like taco bell or supposedly nice food like Chipotle. If only their marketing was honest and labeled as Mexican inspired food or something. It shouldn't be called Mexican if you can't find something like it in Mexico.

It's not how the world should see us. Because it's also a bit of a letdown to see restaurant advertising as Mexican in Europe and only find chicken fajitas and chalupas. Not that I think the trend is gonna end anytime soon.

>> No.6259278

>>6254504
Fun fact: Food trucks didn't exist in Mexico until after the food trucks i US, very few have started to pop up in some major cities but they serve mostly burgers.

>> No.6259282

>>6259276
>In any case I don't care if gringos like shit food like taco bell or supposedly nice food like Chipotle. If only their marketing was honest and labeled as Mexican inspired food or something. It shouldn't be called Mexican if you can't find something like it in Mexico.
I think some countries have laws like this.

>> No.6259415

>Tfw live in houston
>Chipotle is popular even though there is an amazing Mexican restaurant that match the price of chipotle
I will never understand people, why choose chipotle's overpriced and shit tasting meat over a genuine and far better tasting mexican meal?

Name? Is that why shit like Taco bell is still in buisness?

>> No.6260531

>>6254479
It's overpriced for what it is and it lacks variety. At least in my opinion. I don't care where you like to eat though. As long as you like it it's all that matters.

>> No.6260538

>>6259415
1. Chipotle isn't run by Mexicans, so you can expect a certain level of cleanliness and hygiene. No playing shit-your-pantalones roulette (or at least your odds are better)
2. Consistency and predictability no matter where you are.
3. Tastes good enough. Not going to wow you like a traditional place will, but also not going to be terrible.

>> No.6260544

>>6259415
Consistency. People know what they will get when they go to chipotle. It's also bright, clean, and white.

>> No.6260549

>>6260538
>>6260544
These Anons sum it up. Many people are happy with mediocre food as long as it meets their expectations. This is how every chain restaurant stays in business.

>> No.6260555

>>6258287
>Shrimps 'R' Us! Come get your shrimp! Anyway you want it prepared! Order in English, Spanish, or any mix of the two! It really doesn't matter! No matter what you want, you will get some combination of shrimp, tortillas, cilantro and salsa!

>> No.6260556

>>6255759
I guess maybe Mexicans shouldn't have been so stupid and import American goods in the first place. Or maybe I'm expecting too much from third world taco benders.

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>>6255800
>you're stupid
>thought so!

>> No.6260602

>>6260555
if americans are willing to pay 20+ for Mexican food then the menu wouldn't be limited to shrimp.

>> No.6260655

>>6254479
yall niggas....

>> No.6260910

>>6259278
He was referring to u.s food trucks lol

>> No.6260915

>>6260549
>muh authentic!

>> No.6260922

>>6259282
>not understanding how the term authentic is a buzzword.

>> No.6260929

>>6254479
Holy shit, at least learn how to mix both languages.

>¿ on an english question
>Méxicana
>indigenas
>gastronómica

Fuck off.

>> No.6260994

White privilege is taking a brown person's cuisine and making it valid because you had your white paws all over it.

>> No.6261051

>>6260994
>white privilege
Go home tumblr

>> No.6261078

>Getting this buttblasted over something as shit-tier as Mexican food

>> No.6261154

>>6260915
It's more a matter of lowered expectations than being "authentic". Like this:

>As long as the place looks clean, the portions are big and the food it blandly inoffensive no one cares whether or not it's actually good.

>> No.6261157

>>6261154
Except it is good. Only fedora wearing autists like you think It isn't.

>> No.6261163

>>6261157
Shut up faggot chipoltay is trash

>> No.6261164

>>6261157
Oh, come on. It's mediocre at best.

>> No.6261173

>>6261163
>>6261164
>we're cool because we hate what the mainstream likes
The very definition of a hipster douche

>> No.6261193

>>6261173
But Chipotle really isn't anything special. It's the Subway of Mexican food, if Subway was grossly overpriced.

>> No.6261221

>>6261173
I don't hate it, I just find it mediocre.

>> No.6261224

>>6261154
>if it's not a rat infested, cartel ran, dirt shack it's not good.
Despite popular opinion you edgy autismo , people do care about taste.

>> No.6261235

>>6261173
You like bland garbage friendo

>> No.6261241

that girl on the front is such a qt

>> No.6261251

>>6261235
*tips trillby on top of fedora as he rides away on a fixie with an American spirit in his mouth with a can of pbr in his coat pocket . His scarf flutters in the wind as he rides to pick up his lengua tacos from his favorite roach coach.*

>> No.6261255

>>6254750

I always want to try that, but usually just getting a Chimichanga, instead. Pleb, I know.

But they fill it Shrimp that is literally the size of a baby's elbow.

>> No.6261262

yall gay

>> No.6261267

>>6255236
And Taco John's is superior than both.

>> No.6261271

>>6255291
>http://www.mobypicture.com/user/rick_bayless/view/17856833

That's just lettuce, you dumb fuckin' idiot.

>> No.6261281

>>6261271
is /ck/ usually this shit at trolling?

>> No.6261307

This is where I go for somewhat authentic mexican food

http://www.elrancheromex.net/menu.html

>> No.6261318

>>6261307
>thick n juicy
>tommy's tacos

wat

>> No.6261427

>>6261224
>people do care about taste
This is true, but they don't care whether or not something tastes good so much as they care about whether food tastes familiar and consistent. Budweiser doesn't taste good, nor does American cheese or breakfast cereal. But people eat these things because they're familiar and consistent. They taste OK at best. If people really gave a fuck about their food tasting good do you think boneless, skinless chicken breast would be the most popular meat in America?

No.

Like most fast food Chipotle offers a quick fix of bland mediocrity (along with lots of salt and fat) to people who don't have the option of or interest in seeking out something better. What makes Chipotle particularly nefarious is that unlike Taco Bell, which everyone knows is trash Chipotle has managed convince people it's somehow "better" than fast food.

Their business model requires their customers embracing that lie while shelling out nearly twice the price of a meal at Taco Bell for only marginally better food. If taste were the primary concern people would not eat at Chipotle.

>> No.6261458

>>6261427
>What makes Chipotle particularly nefarious is that unlike Taco Bell, which everyone knows is trash Chipotle has managed convince people it's somehow "better" than fast food.

I don't see how that's nefarious or misleading at all. The quality is quite a bit higher than most fast food. The food is cooked on-site and reasonably fresh. That alone is a huge step up from most fast food, where the food was cooked in a factory somewhere and then reheated when you order it. I'm not sure where there "lie" is exactly?

Is Chipotle authentic? Nope. Is it particularly good? Nope. Is it bland? Yeah. But I think it's pretty clear that it's certainly fresher and uses higher quality ingredients than typical fast food like subway, McD's or taco hole.

>> No.6261511

>>6261458
>The quality is quite a bit higher than most fast food
Proof or gtfo

>> No.6261527

>>6261511

Walk into one. You can see them doing all the prep in-house. The salsa doesn't come out of a jar or a bag--they actually make it the same day you eat it. You can see them doing so as the kitchen is in full view. Ditto for the beans, the meats, etc.

Their cheese is pretty craptastic though.

>> No.6261539

>>6254479
I dont eat there anymore because they're anti gun, but the food tastes good.

>> No.6261550

>>6261527
That doesn't say anything about quality.
Just because they cook in house doesn't mean it's high quality. You haven't proved anything, except your own willingness to believe what they want you to believe because it suits your own agenda.

>> No.6261557

>>6261458
>it's pretty clear that it's certainly fresher and uses higher quality ingredients than typical fast food like subway, McD's or taco hole.
This isn't true. The ingredients are more recognizable, but with the exception of a token few things they advertize about it's mostly the same low grade crap every other fast food joint uses.

Sure the option of grass fed beef at a handful of locations is nice. So are fresh avocados. Maybe the cilantro is locally grown. But what about the bulk of what they sell? It's the same garbage ingredients any other fast food chain could get, some just a little less processed.

But when the end result is still high calorie, high fat, high salt junk food what difference does it really matter?
>Is it particularly good? Nope. Is it bland? Yeah
Obviously it doesn't make much difference.

>> No.6261564

>>6261550
Your twisting words saying higher quality is high quality

>> No.6261586

People have become outrageously pretentious.

It's all the goddamn food and cooking shows these days. Every retard with olive oil and a frying pan thinks they're chef de cuisine when they're really just complete fucking idiots.

>> No.6261590

>>6254801

Oh look, it's a sock tamale.

>> No.6261605

>>6261564
And you're still not offering any credible proof that it's "higher quality".
Frankly, if you knew how food manufacturing works, you'd realize the error of your statements. Just because people are cooking defrosted meats in the building does not mean it's higher quality. Actually, there's more room for error and the possibility of contamination. Cooking the food in house, in a fast food setting, using fast food techniques, does not make it higher quality. I'm no proponent of fast food, period, but Chipotle is just fast food masquerading as something better, and appealing to people's desire to feel better about themselves.

>> No.6261609

>>6261586
Congratulations, you've realized one of more important facts of human kind. 90% of humans are idiots. And of those, a good 60% are downright morons. That leaves very little quality to work with.

>> No.6261627

>>6261586
>People have become outrageously pretentious.
If pretentious means having the gall to reject the slop you're happy to settle for then maybe.
>It's all the goddamn food and cooking shows these days
If that were the case Chipotle wouldn't be in business.

>> No.6261645

>>6261627
I don't think you understand the tone and intent behind his words.

>> No.6261653

>>6254479
>Chipotle provides a quick, predictable, reasonably priced wholesome meal in convenient locations for business folk in high density commercial districts, can't we just agree on that?

No you fucking viral marketer and here's why.

Chipotle is the part of the 'fast casual' cancer of the food industry that markets itself as being the better and healthier choice that still has all the same shitty low qualities of fast food.

It is pretentious and obnoxious to pretend that you're better than Carl's Jr or Burger King, you aren't.

>> No.6261750

>>6261605
You're a fucking moron and moving his goal posts. He wasn't saying it's not fast food. It's more about how it's a small standard you dipshit

>> No.6261784

>>6261653
>It is pretentious and obnoxious to pretend that you're better than Carl's Jr or Burger King, you aren't.
It's actually fucking brilliant. Most fast food joints are forced to sell their food cheaper and cheaper in the form of dollar/value menus. Chipotle gets people to line up to pay a little more than what they would at an average fast food joint just by selling the idea that they're better.

Their profits come from not just counting on the fact that people don't have very good taste, but also that they'll believe whatever they're told if it sounds like something they'd like to hear,

That's evil genius level stuff.

That's why I bought stock in the company, even though I think the food sucks.

>> No.6261920

>>6261527
sorry to burst your bubble, but the beans, barbacoa, carnitas, and both kinds of tomatillo salsas all come out of bags. we reheat beans and meat on the stovetop and add a little seasoning, but they're prepared in commissarys across the country. we do add some fresh chopped veggies to the green salsa, but the red stuff only gets a little Tabasco sauce added in

>>6261605
the meats aren't defrosted, though. the only thing we serve that was ever frozen is the corn.