Stoner Food General

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Stoner Food General Anonymous Mon Feb 16 23:50:11 2015 No.6241124 [Reply] [Original]

Post food that had to have been created by a stoner.
The food doesn't necessarily have to require you to be stoned to enjoy it.
I'll start.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 16 23:54:49 2015 No.6241149 >>6241124 Stoner here. I don't care for doritos locos tacos at all. Del Taco is way better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 16 23:55:10 2015 No.6241150 >>6241124 I had this for lunch and I'm a skinny rich guy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 00:00:00 2015 No.6241163 File: 27 KB, 400x289, FoodFeeRape.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6241149 >>6241150 Again, it just has to be a food that only a stoner could have THOUGHT OF, like pineapple as a pizza topping.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 00:08:35 2015 No.6241180 File: 240 KB, 957x1488, N2olR1q.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 00:09:14 2015 No.6241182 Stoners are scum

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 00:14:40 2015 No.6241198 >>6241124 >tfw your company helped Taco Bell invent these

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 00:28:20 2015 No.6241230 >>6241149 Gotta second this one, Del Taco is prime stoner food. Any place that lets you add a handful of fries stuffed inside any taco/burrito/burger/milkshake knows what they're doing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 00:32:59 2015 No.6241243 >>6241163 I understand people who are really into Ham and Pineapple, but its still super retarded to me that someone would want that on a pizza.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 00:36:29 2015 No.6241254 >>6241230 Del Taco, fucking tasty ass food Went to CA for the first time last March and had it, fucking delicious Going to be attending college in CA starting in June, moving from a small city in FL, literally cannot wait.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 00:38:10 2015 No.6241257 >>6241182 bait.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 00:52:22 2015 No.6241293 File: 181 KB, 451x242, Speculoos.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 00:54:37 2015 No.6241301 >>6241293 dont u fucking tempt me with that

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 00:55:14 2015 No.6241305 File: 678 KB, 1030x787, jack_munchies_stacked_sourdough_g.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's certainly catered to stoners.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 01:05:10 2015 No.6241325 >>6241301 I put that shit on walnut chocolate chip pancakes today, with maple syrup.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 01:48:02 2015 No.6241418 >>6241305 Didn't this get discontinued

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 01:57:23 2015 No.6241437 >>6241163 >>6241243 Where did the "pineapple is gross on pizza" meme start? I mean I understand not liking it but I've never heard anyone ever think it was gross until I started coming here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 02:27:40 2015 No.6241507 >>6241180 lel

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 02:29:53 2015 No.6241514 >>6241418 nope. not at least in san diego i had one the other night

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 02:49:15 2015 No.6241542 ITT: Drug Addicts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 02:53:06 2015 No.6241550 File: 105 KB, 1040x746, 1412793418303.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6241542

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 02:57:46 2015 No.6241554 >>6241124 Stoners are people too. Why do you have to be mean. Poppa john did not die for you to make fun of stoners and their food choices. Please leave fazoli's alone or I will call my skinny rich friend to eat you for lunch.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 02:58:35 2015 No.6241557 File: 53 KB, 720x720, 1386372182331.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Eggs. Like 5 of them. Just cooked in a pan. Sometimes with toast.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 03:03:40 2015 No.6241572 >>6241305 guilty of getting this while high. That's about the only time I love their "tacos" as well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 03:11:10 2015 No.6241591 >>6241180 I NEED THISSSS

Anonymous Tue Feb 17 03:17:55 2015 No.6241600

>>6241572
Ayyyyy. I've gotta be twisted on drugs and booze to appreciate the subtle charms of jitb tacos, but damn are they fulfilling. I cannot eat those things sober though. Fortunately they are dirt cheap and I'm almost never sober. Fuck I wish they had delivery, I want to eat 8 right now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 03:30:17 2015 No.6241626 stoner or alkie. ther is a sonic near by and neither eat there.yet they endure. I need to climb of my high horse.sonic is probably ok. I just hate the dumbass tv ads.

Anonymous Tue Feb 17 03:39:52 2015 No.6241633

>>6241626
Don't do it man. There will be highschool jailbait qtpies bringing you your food on roller skates wearing tight shorts so low cut that her beaver hair is practically waving in the wind, and she wants you to tip her so bad she'll try to flirt and converse. Its not worth it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 10:52:00 2015 No.6242081 >>6241437 I never said it was gross. I just asked who the fuck was the first person to thing of that? Clearly it must have been a stoner. >3rd grade reading comprehension

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 18:04:07 2015 No.6243130 >>6241514 wheres your favorite mexican joint albertacos san marcos represent

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 18:07:31 2015 No.6243141 >>6241557 Three with toast is my go-to. Try mayo on the toast instead of butter.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 18:09:35 2015 No.6243149 >>6241124 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeVtGOVdy0I

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 18:18:13 2015 No.6243176 >>6241305 Even when I'm stoned, I can't eat 'Jack in the box'.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 18:55:48 2015 No.6243305 File: 108 KB, 800x1200, lt_copy.15380809_std.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Torta

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 21:37:01 2015 No.6243793 File: 9 KB, 261x173, Ayyyy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 21:52:27 2015 No.6243836 >>6241124 The one rule is that everything is stoner food.

Anonymous Tue Feb 17 22:06:44 2015 No.6243874

>>6241124
One time a friend and I were gone and were sitting around a campfire with pizza and those jumbo marshmallows.
I put a slice of pizza on a stick followed by a marshmallow and then folded the other side of the pizza onto the stick, so it made a C shape with the mallow in the middle of it. Roasted the fuck out of that thing and it was like sucking god's cock. Fucking delicious.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 22:08:17 2015 No.6243876 File: 826 KB, 320x240, PFFTHAHHAHA.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6243874 >it was like sucking god's cock.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 22:10:59 2015 No.6243882 File: 15 KB, 225x225, download (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The only thing this combo is missing is the pre-packaged blunt

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 17 22:30:33 2015 No.6243931 File: 43 KB, 526x375, LutherBurger.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Where the fuck the food combos at, like the luther burger?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 18 00:03:55 2015 No.6244183 Chocolate dripped over regular tacos, come at me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 18 06:25:33 2015 No.6244725 >>6241257 He's not wrong.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 18 15:09:03 2015 No.6245704 >>6244725 This is also bait

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 18 15:15:28 2015 No.6245722 non-amerifag here I've never had tacos and while I'm sure they're nice, they look really impractical would those crunchy shells not just break into a million bits the first bite you take??

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 18 15:27:43 2015 No.6245762 >>6245722 Sometimes they crack or a piece falls off but it's not as if the whole thing shatters.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 18 15:29:09 2015 No.6245768 >>6241633 >don't go places because there are people that might talk to you

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 18 15:36:30 2015 No.6245792 >>6245722 store-bought shells crack and fall apart easiest. fast-food shells are typically covered in enough grease that they hold together pretty well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 18 21:14:22 2015 No.6246817 File: 73 KB, 288x295, NanaimoBar.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Canadians are all stoners.

Anonymous Wed Feb 18 21:29:28 2015 No.6246859

Think about all the marketing promotions that doritos has been a part of over the years.

The more likely origin story, in my mind, is that somebody's boss was on his ass to come up with new promotional things to do. The frustrated worker decided to just vomit out everything that came to mind, and the boss picked the ones that were crazy enough to work because he had passed the narcissism singularity and could not perceive the hatred and sarcasm in his employee's sales pitch. This is not a stoner's idea. this is an underpaid man's contempt for modern society.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 18 21:46:03 2015 No.6246884 File: 391 KB, 622x656, 1286058309298.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Pair it with orange juice and toothpaste icecream

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 18 22:50:00 2015 No.6247019 File: 54 KB, 561x450, 111111111111111.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6244725 >>6245704

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 18 22:53:41 2015 No.6247031 >>6246817 It's true, we are.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 18 22:54:52 2015 No.6247033 >>6241149 >>6241182 YOU SHUT YOU'RE WHORES MOUTHS!! THE DORITOS TACO IS A GOD SEND. I LITERALLY SAVED MY LIFE.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 18 23:58:33 2015 No.6247221 File: 1.61 MB, 372x201, its made out of fuckin cookiiiieeeesss.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6241293

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 19 00:00:52 2015 No.6247227 I had this idea where you crush your favorite cereal into dust then put the cereal dust into your favorite kind of milk. literally cereal flavored milk and it's fucking amazing. Did I discover something? you think it could be marketed?

Anonymous Thu Feb 19 02:15:26 2015 No.6247566

I Dice up about 4 medium potatos and a large onion. You fry the potatos in a pan and about halfway through cooking you add the onions. While cooking you have to add a shitload of salt and some Italian seasoning. It's the best thing ever I could eat 12 potatos worth of it in one sitting I'm pretty sure.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 19 03:33:11 2015 No.6247704 >>6247227 Sounds good. I'll try it. Whats a good combination?

Anonymous Thu Feb 19 03:42:33 2015 No.6247711

>>6241124
>>6247227
Once upon a time my brother got super stoned with his friend and they ended up making cake soup out of a bunch of tea cakes my sister and I had made. They put the cakes into a bowl and poured milk over them. It was probably incredible but my sister and I were pretty pissed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 19 06:24:40 2015 No.6247861 File: 188 KB, 500x375, Baked_stargazy_pie.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6241124

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 19 12:00:08 2015 No.6248432 >>6246859 >narcissism singularity hey, that's my band's name

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 19 20:19:21 2015 No.6249907 File: 58 KB, 480x720, FoodHack2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] stoners are lazy this is perfect for em

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 19 20:31:12 2015 No.6249937 >>6246884 fuck, made me gag

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 19 20:39:38 2015 No.6249966 >>6241180 its beautiful. >>6241293 thats been around in one form or another since the early 80's. >>6246884 somewhere in florida, my cousin and dad just fell over thinking about this while stoned to the gills.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 19 20:41:32 2015 No.6249976 File: 9 KB, 239x239, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw too afraid to smoke weed so I never have the munchies

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 13:20:46 2015 No.6251701 >>6249907 dat sausage so overcooked

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 13:25:25 2015 No.6251711 >>6249976 From someone who smokes every day as often as possible, don't. You're better off

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 13:34:31 2015 No.6251731 >>6249976 >too afraid Why?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 14:35:04 2015 No.6251873 File: 383 KB, 1200x900, funyuns.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 14:35:57 2015 No.6251874 i know that i'm fat and unhealthy, also i don't have money for plastic surgery any tips?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 14:37:41 2015 No.6251880 >>6251873 funyuns are best yuns see also: Munchos

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 14:37:47 2015 No.6251881 >>6251711 >having this little self control wow man. great job.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 14:38:53 2015 No.6251885 >>6251874 stop worrying joey. you'll be fine. just grab another double down and forget about it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 14:39:59 2015 No.6251888 File: 3.70 MB, 4608x3456, dsc00217-2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 14:43:44 2015 No.6251894 File: 2.83 MB, 3456x2304, img_9931.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 14:48:16 2015 No.6251903 >>6241305 How much did/does this cost? 6$ plus tax sounds reasonable.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 14:49:22 2015 No.6251905 >>6243305 I would have loved to know about the existence of a torta when I engaged in drug use. A torta with chorizo on it is godly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 14:50:39 2015 No.6251907 >>6245722 don't bother with hardshell tacos, they are for people who don't know what they are really doing with themselves in life.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 14:51:15 2015 No.6251908 >>6251885 you're right man

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 14:52:55 2015 No.6251909 >>6249976 Good, if you want to be 100x more afraid then you will smoke it.

>>	Hashman !dweBUD/Xfg Fri Feb 20 16:11:09 2015 No.6252116 >>6251909 got a weak head, brah?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 18:14:17 2015 No.6252504 File: 3.07 MB, 3072x2304, p1080417.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 18:34:44 2015 No.6252544 Pepperoni slices with Mozzarella cheese sticks Fresh baked chocolate chip cookie ice cream sandwiches Pistachios and chocolate chips Mike Sells Groovy chips with Heeluva Good French Onion Dip Jalapeño Cheddar Cheetos Apple slices and almond butter

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 18:36:43 2015 No.6252548 >>6241254 where are you going to school, cu/ck/? so cal here.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 18:39:01 2015 No.6252552 >>6252504 holy fucking shit snacks....WTF is up with dem nails bro?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 19:41:02 2015 No.6252674 File: 413 KB, 1920x1080, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just ate 2100 calories from jack in the box, ask me anything

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 22:16:47 2015 No.6253072 >>6249907 It takes to effort to pierce sausages with spag strands, easier to just out right boil straight out of the package

Anonymous Fri Feb 20 22:19:38 2015 No.6253081

>>6249976
I've tried it in my mid twenties for the first time with coworkers who have made it a habit since his. I liked it but couldn't really get into it. I just see it as another recreational activity that doesn't need to be a priority, saved me a lot of money thinking like that

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 22:29:02 2015 No.6253108 Wendy's Triple-stack cheeseburger and small Frosty, maybe 1-2 items off the value menu for the trip home.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 22:31:02 2015 No.6253112 >>6252674 Are you fat?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 22:38:59 2015 No.6253137 >>6253112 Overweight definably, not too much though. I wont be ding this again

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 22:39:55 2015 No.6253140 >>6252674 What exactly made up those 2100 calories?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 22:43:18 2015 No.6253145 >>6241198 >implying taco bell invented these >implying it wasn't Frito-Lay Frito-Lay all but owns Taco Bell. Why do you think only Pepsi products are available at the soda fountain?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 22:55:02 2015 No.6253178 >>6253140 >Classic Buttery Jack 816 >Jumbo Jack w cheese 570 >1 taco 190 >7 pc Stuffed Jalapenos (not that great) 510 >Total 2086 cals

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 22:59:39 2015 No.6253188 >>6253178 No diet coke?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 23:02:43 2015 No.6253193 one time i got horrible sweet tooth munchies after a couple bowls and made vanilla cake mix and instead of icing melted peanut butter on the top

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 23:03:30 2015 No.6253196 >>6253188 actually I brought it home and drank water,, But I did forget the ranch, so 2186 cals

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 23:20:20 2015 No.6253231 File: 54 KB, 500x375, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6241633 >he doesn't want schoolgirls to bring him shakes while begging for his tip.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 23:47:10 2015 No.6253312 >>6241305 >no hellapeño burger in the picture

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 20 23:55:21 2015 No.6253336 >>6251903 thats actually it I think, but the sandwiches are shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 13:59:39 2015 No.6254774 >>6241514 Yeah, definitely not here in Colorado. They usually have some pun about "Mile High Munchies" on their ads for munchie meals.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 18:01:05 2015 No.6255568 >>6246817 No shit, haven't you heard of our 420 celebrations? I know other places have similar deals, but we smoke up on the lawn of our fucking parliament.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 18:50:19 2015 No.6255724 >>6253137 height and weight

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 19:33:23 2015 No.6255827 >>6255724 Those dont do real justice cause Im heavier than I look, 5'10" 205

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 02:35:55 2015 No.6256926 File: 38 KB, 578x712, ShitTierTastes.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Got any foods that ONLY stoners can enjoy?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 02:39:13 2015 No.6256932 >>6256926 my roommates have usually been all wtf with my practice of dumping shit white people spice aisle curry powder in my kraft mac and cheese

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 04:33:20 2015 No.6257091 Am I the only person who doesn't get hungry when they're high? Usually it gives me the opposite effect where I can't stomach anything. Maybe I just get to high

Anonymous Sun Feb 22 04:40:39 2015 No.6257103

>>6257091
this is me too. Not that I can't stomach it, but i might only enjoy a morsel or two. Watching ppl gorge themselves with slop makes me envision Fear and Loathing scenes, then I feel sick. I absolutely love cleaning and science shit when I'm high though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 04:50:45 2015 No.6257114 >>6257091 yeh tooo high I also can't stomach food when im balls on face flying high like kite man

Anonymous Sun Feb 22 07:55:22 2015 No.6257308

>>6257091
I only get munchies when I'm hungover after binge drinking, I feel ill usually and have a mad craving for food as it's the only thing which makes me feel better.

I don't smoke weed anymore but I don't remember getting munchies, my appetite was no different to how it usually was.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 07:57:35 2015 No.6257311 Every single thing at Momofuku (much of it quite delicious)

Anonymous Sun Feb 22 07:59:45 2015 No.6257315

>be me
>be tripping on acid
>but hungry because didn't eat before trip
>assemble sandwich of turkey, sliced bananas, and hot sauce
>think i have created stoner/tripper masterpiece
>mfw the worst tasting shit ever
>still laughing over it
>inside joke with mate ("hey, want a sandwich?")

good times

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 15:22:52 2015 No.6258299 File: 17 KB, 480x360, cheech__chong_hotpocket.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 15:26:27 2015 No.6258312 >>6253145 My company assisted Frito-Lay

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 15:28:54 2015 No.6258317 File: 28 KB, 498x270, white_castle.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 15:41:41 2015 No.6258351 File: 699 KB, 2272x1704, tater-tots.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 15:49:44 2015 No.6258373 >>6241557 >stoner food Chips. Just chips

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 15:52:51 2015 No.6258381 File: 130 KB, 450x337, pop-tarts.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 16:47:20 2015 No.6258508 File: 70 KB, 590x443, 94fe78b38c7a2d6a11808d289cd0abd6.590x443x1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Sun Feb 22 17:04:41 2015 No.6258540

>>6241124
Doritos were carefully engineered.

"Dude like it tastes so good it's like it was made FOR ME, whoa but what if it was made BY me?"

Nah. It was made in a capitalist economy by a corporation that wants you to buy their product. It's that simple.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 18:14:43 2015 No.6258777 >>6247227 Did you post this on /nom/? Because I remember a thread about this last year.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 18:17:38 2015 No.6258791 File: 143 KB, 600x450, peanut-bamba.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 18:21:46 2015 No.6258803 >>6241182 I wouldn't go that far but I don't support illegal drug use at all. >>6241293 What? That's cool.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 18:23:44 2015 No.6258811 >>6258803 >I wouldn't go that far but I don't support illegal drug use at all. Yet you likely support the use of pharmaceuticals, no questions asked.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 18:24:47 2015 No.6258815 >>6252552 What, girls wear nails like that often. It's a style

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 18:25:48 2015 No.6258819 >>6258811 Those aren't illegal.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 18:28:40 2015 No.6258828 >>6258819 Yet you likely support the use of pharmaceuticals, no questions asked.

Anonymous Sun Feb 22 18:41:58 2015 No.6258857

There is a different to what is just and what is legal. The legal system will always be "catching up" to what the public deems as just. It is the exact same with the lax nature of opiate painkillers.

The overuse of opiate painkillers is certainly unjust and will eventually be more regulated, but we are not there yet.

While I do not agree with this anon, he isnt wrong in supporting painkillers while not condoning illegal drug use, purely by the point that it is not currently illegal.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 18:42:58 2015 No.6258858 >>6258857 >>6258828

Anonymous Sun Feb 22 18:53:51 2015 No.6258889

>>6258857
Anon, the two are intertwined. The feedback goes both ways as each define the other. The notion of higher justice through law is an illusion. Though it's not relevant to this conversation, in my view the only thing that comes close to true justice is that which is individualistic, arbitrary, and base. Collectivism never speaks for everyone, and it often struggles to even speak at all.

Law defines people's perception of justice just as much as it (occasionally) shifts with changing social ideas and tendencies. Ultimately it hinges on the affordances of the legal system to begin with, where change can happen will follow. The legal system is not stuck in a game of "catch up", that implies progress is slow and cautious, always reaching where it was thought it ought to be at one point. This is not the case.

This can be quantized down to one single statement. Being illegal is near meaningless, your decisions should not stem from faith in the collective or a perceived higher authority. Leads to myopic statements like the above, and the people saying them genuinely believing there isn't anything lacking in their thought process.

Anonymous Sun Feb 22 19:04:47 2015 No.6258918

>>6258889
you cant force someone to act individualistically nor should you try. That anon is not wrong in putting his faith in the system as that will always happen and that is ok. They are the ones that the system itself is designed for. We establish the systemto help and guide people because some people need guidance.

At a single moment, the justice system is catching up to changing social values. The speed and caution of which are totally dependent on the issue at hand. Why else would it ever change?

You sound like an anarchist. Justice is democratic in our social construct. In that sense, there is a higher justice as it is determined for the collective good.

Anonymous Sun Feb 22 19:15:09 2015 No.6258937

>>6258918
>That anon is not wrong in putting his faith in the system as that will always happen and that is ok.
Yes they are wrong, no it is not okay. It is ultimately highly destructive and self limiting.

>They are the ones that the system itself is designed for.
They were designed by the system more than it was tailored to suit them.

>some people need guidance
Then give them guidance. Condoning blind faith is not guidance, and nor is the information they do get.

>Justice is democratic in our social construct. In that sense, there is a higher justice as it is determined for the collective good.
Not even worth the time. Justice is defined by those with the deepest pockets or the most connections and affordances within the system. It's rigged, it is not democratically created. It is created and imposed.

Drug laws are ridiculous and wasteful of resources. They harm those who do not harm, where is the collective good in that? Who decided, who keeps it that way? Everyone wants to make a profit, and there are a lot of players. Did you know most prisons are privatized and have their ideal inmate count set at ~80+%? Hm. Wonder why...

You sound foolish anon. The bigger picture can be unsettling, but you must grow up, and you must see it. Pleasant illusions never last, the bliss of ignorance is only as everlasting as the system that supports it stays out of your life.

Anonymous Sun Feb 22 19:16:53 2015 No.6258940

>>6258857
>The overuse of opiate painkillers is certainly unjust
There is no overuse, there is underuse. Doctors and nurses seldom prescribe or administer opiates when pain relief is badly needed, and the use of diamorphine in US hospitals has been wiped out due to the stupidity of UN laws.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 19:19:35 2015 No.6258945 >>6241124 I don't wanna make a whole separate thread for it, so I'll just ask it here since the premise is getting intoxicated anyway; what's the girliest drink out there? Is it Seagram's Escapes?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 19:20:18 2015 No.6258946 >>6258945 There are no gendered drinks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 19:24:08 2015 No.6258954 >>6258945 Aqua Velva It's breddy good tho

Anonymous Sun Feb 22 19:24:10 2015 No.6258955

>>6247227

This reminds me, I saw a thread on /ck/ once about this stupid hipster cereal bar in the UK where they served American and international cereals, and I thought; what if you take that concept but don't half-ass it?

Full-blown breakfast bar, the star of which is homemade cereals in interesting combinations. Not just shit out of a box. I don't know, what do you think?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 19:25:20 2015 No.6258957 File: 16 KB, 320x371, triggered.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6258946

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 19:25:57 2015 No.6258958 >>6258955 breakfast as a business is for working people, not hipsters

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 19:27:50 2015 No.6258961 >>6258957 Hops contain phytoestrogens. Beer's not so manly now, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 19:28:03 2015 No.6258962 >>6258958 Well yeah, that's what I'm saying. Instead of a place that overcharges for shitty boxed cereal, why not go to a place that does something different? I mean, homemade cereal is pretty delicious.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 19:29:51 2015 No.6258968 File: 11 KB, 300x192, ptsd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6258961 >feminists

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 19:31:49 2015 No.6258972 >>6258945 >being so insecure you can't drink whatever you please

Anonymous Sun Feb 22 19:32:18 2015 No.6258973

>>6258937
you sound 16

Of course thinking for yourself is important and should be condoned, but there are people who will not do it.

We have to deal with that.

As to justice being defined by those with the deepest pockets. Yes, lobbying groups suck. Thankfully they are not so hidden from the public eye and will be subjected to change eventually. We have a prison state sure, but drug incarceration laws are already changing with the whole idea of reducing those incarceration rates.

You have to put more faith in the system and that does not mean blindly abide by it. In fact, by the act of voting itself, we are attempting to encourage individual thinking.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 19:33:26 2015 No.6258979 >>6258972 But he didn't mention anything about drinking or not drinking, anon. He just asked your opinion. Sounds like you're projecting.

Anonymous Sun Feb 22 19:36:06 2015 No.6258983

>>6258940
http://www.asipp.org/documents/ASIPPFactSheet101111.pdf

http://www.drugabuse.gov/about-nida/legislative-activities/testimony-to-congress/2014/americas-addiction-to-opioids-heroin-prescription-drug-abuse

It really is an issue.
Hell even for heroin addiction, we throw a depressant to treat the detox of a depressant

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>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 19:39:22 2015 No.6258990 >>6258984 nope, just fat person food, that being said I loved it

Anonymous Sun Feb 22 19:51:21 2015 No.6259021

>>6258983
What's the unjust bit other than the fact these useful drugs are prescription-only or, in some cases, completely illicit? The problems with heroin that they point out in the second link are due to the combination of its illegality and taboo status, making it an order of magnitude more dangerous than it truly is -- adulterants, variable purity, difficulty obtaining needles, etc. open the door to diseases, necrosis, and accidental overdoses. As medical-grade diamorphine it's not a problem.

>Hell even for heroin addiction, we throw a depressant to treat the detox of a depressant
The solution is heroin maintenance, tapering the dose down to nothing gradually. Currently impossible without a doctor, who will of course just throw the enquiring addict onto methadone for the rest of their life, ready for another relapse.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 19:53:35 2015 No.6259029 >>6258984 Only ever had one good DD, at a mall KFC.

Anonymous Sun Feb 22 19:59:08 2015 No.6259045

>>6259021
>Currently impossible without a doctor, who will of course just throw the enquiring addict onto methadone for the rest of their life, ready for another relapse.
They tapered off the dosing for someone I know and the person I know swore up and down they were tapering them off too fast even though the dose was barely much lower. That shit is terrible.

Anonymous Sun Feb 22 20:43:09 2015 No.6259134

>>6259021
the methadone system is fucked up and needs help

Im not talking about the issue of heroin but the issue of overprescribed opiates.

I could walk down to a "pain management" clinic and get a prescription right now. The unjust bit is doctors who have ethical faults and dont mind giving out these drugs for a little extra cash.
There are other ways to manage pain besides opiates but the spotlight is on opiates right now

Anonymous Sun Feb 22 20:53:39 2015 No.6259165

>>6259134
That's interesting, because I have several friends who are in temporary severe pain and have been cheated out of their prescriptions. A prescription can be made for a number of pills, yet when the prescription is claimed, more than half of that number gets withheld. I also have a relative with a brain tumor who projectile-vomits nearly every day from the pain, but doctors are still apprehensive to administer even codeine, instead offering useless paracetamol.

>There are other ways to manage pain besides opiates
Like ketamine.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 21:07:58 2015 No.6259195 >>6241124 >Post food that had to have been created by a stoner. jokes on you! processed foods are designed by top food scientists and chemists to light up your brain's pleasure centres yes i realize this sounds silly but it is true

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 21:09:41 2015 No.6259198 >>6243876 anon means him and his "friend" went camping and he sucked his "friend's" dick

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 21:11:26 2015 No.6259199 >>6252674 Why do you hate your body? You gotta start telling yourself that you're the best and you should treat yourself better

Anonymous Sun Feb 22 21:19:38 2015 No.6259216

>>6259165
pain is so incredibly hard to diagnose due to the subjective nature and sometimes opaque causes. So ketamine, sure whatever, but stuff as simple as stretching the muscles(yoga) or stress reduction techniques have been shown to help certain cases

I am not talking about some dude who broke his hand or your relative with a brain tumor. This is a general problem, so for every case where it is justified, there are 5 where it is not.
Plenty of doctors and pharmacists have pressure put on them to not prescribe it so much due to all of the recent press. The best thing for your friends and relative would be for the overprescription to end so that serious cases where it is needed will not be questioned.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 21:22:40 2015 No.6259226 >>6258508 god i miss those

Anonymous Sun Feb 22 21:53:44 2015 No.6259284
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>>6258973
I am 21, anon.

>Of course thinking for yourself is important and should be condoned, but there are people who will not do it.
So why support a system that actively cripples realistic thinking and exploits, if not creates that naivety. Does that not net make their lives worse? Where is the commitment to the collective good of everyone here? It ain't here, that's where. It's not about distributing benefit to the greater whole, it's about a few people profiting and other people gaining or losing as a side effect.

That's assuming some people really are intrinsically incapable of making their own decisions, which I'm apt to not buy. There are hard reasons that can be tacked down to an external basis which drive a degree of human behavior.

>We have to deal with that.
Make up your mind.

>In fact, by the act of voting itself, we are attempting to encourage individual thinking.
Voting at present is simply the illusion of choice and having any say in much of anything. Again, it's a rigged system. Faith is unjustified, it deserves none. I'm not into the idea of gradual reform, once you ask yourself where a circle begins you realize that all intervals are both a beginning and an end, and they all loop into themselves.

I hope you're right, but I doubt it. There is something broken in us, as a species, and like all species that cannot live with their ecology or even each other, we'll hit some major problems. Look back on history, how many times have we done this? We do it over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over. Yet we never learn. Sometimes it's no more than a hundred years before we end up right back where started in a different way, if not worse. You could say we're a program that can contemplate its own existence, yet remains slave to some base inability to truly change it. We lack even honesty.

Anonymous Sun Feb 22 22:29:37 2015 No.6259363
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>>6259284
you just sound way too idealistic.

Quality of life is so subjective; you cannot force your idea of life on other people. The fact is that some people will not actively think about the more abstract concepts behind laws and government, but that doesnt make them any less a part of the community. They need to be accounted for just like everyone.

Thats what we have to deal with.

Changes start on a small scale with some of the most significant changes on a statewide basis. These are largely apart from the dog and pony show.
If you really want to change the world, go to your local government. Thats where change starts. I bet you have never been to a town meeting, never saw what its actually about. I have little faith in the president and these nationwide votes, yet seeing the people who really care and push for their ideas in local government reaffirms my faith in the system.

Now, why dont you get some help for your depression friend. Life and the world isnt so bad.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 22:32:51 2015 No.6259375 >>6246884 What does 'frost' taste like exactly? Is it freezer-burnt? Is it mentholated? Is it mint? Icecream? What is it? YOU decide!

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 22:37:10 2015 No.6259383 >>6247227 oh yeah you mean "i'm out of fucking cocoa puffs and all the shitty dust fell into the bowl oh my god fuck what have i done with my life"?

Anonymous Sun Feb 22 22:42:37 2015 No.6259395

>>6259216
>pain is so incredibly hard to diagnose due to the subjective nature and sometimes opaque causes
>but stuff as simple as stretching the muscles(yoga) or stress reduction techniques have been shown to help certain cases
This, but only to an extent. Pain is hard to tack down when there aren't obvious mechanical reasons causing it. Doctors, at least in the US, are apt to dimly take a "black box" approach to figuring treatment, and will simply throw medication at you until either something points to something, or more often, something sticks and the patient is satisfied. Then that's it. Done. No more, if it's remotely difficult to figure out, you're better off on your own and I'm not even kidding. Physicians will waste your time, your money, and fuck you around putting near random shit in your body and waiting weeks to see what happens while beating around the bush. Their only value lies in their ability to be used as a tool, or a proxy, for ordering tests or potentially getting medication, if you're into that. Wish it wasn't so, but it is.

I developed nerve pain when I was 12 or so. Had trouble going outside in the heat because I didn't sweat, had episodes where my whole body felt like it was burning and my skin would turn red and feel like tough leather. Parents half acknowledged it, half called me a hypochondriac and said I couldn't possibly be ill, because I'm me and they would know (my parents aren't fools either, something about being a parent warps perspective I suppose.) Eventually developed what I thought might be an atypical form of migraine when I was 16. Got an MRI, neurologist said I had migraine and when I pointed out a few issues in their diagnosis they asked me where I did my residency, then said they didn't have time for people like me, and kicked me out.
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Anonymous Sun Feb 22 22:43:37 2015 No.6259398

>>6259395
I'd already been pouring through medical journals since I was 13 or so, so I just kept looking, tried to piece it together. It was just part of life. Things were a haze and I felt like I was failing. Thought MS for a while, focused on inflammation or demyelination of the trigeminal nerve branches. Was conflicted because I'd seen the MRI results myself, there was no sign of any sort of chronic inflammatory syndromes. Blah blah blah etc.

Point is, I eventually solved it. Type 2 trigeminal neuralgia. The burning skin, confusion, disorientation, bipolar-like mood shifts, hallucinations, paranoia, were probably natural traits greatly potentiated by chronic consumption of shit I had potent food allergies to (histamine release and systemic inflammation). My vision was all grainy, had flashes, strobing, afterimages, not because of progressive brain damage or optic nerve inflammation, but visual snow. I know I've had actual migraines, but most of what I had going on was muscle tension and mindset causing tensed jaw and facial muscle to clamp down and rub on the trigeminal nerve branches. It's unilateral though, I still haven't solved that part or gotten any diagnostics done.
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Anonymous Sun Feb 22 22:44:37 2015 No.6259401

>>6259398
Chronic pain tear you down. Ravages your body and mind, and it's even worse when you don't know why. The diagnostic procedures to pin down pain are fucked, inefficient, and outright unintelligent. Every single scrap of progress I made, everything I solved, I had to push and push and push for, and do all the work myself WHILE PAYING THEM. All they were good for is being able to order tests, for fuck's sake. The best choice I ever made was refusing to take medication the moment they wouldn't try to figure what I wanted to know, they really do just start throwing em at you. Had I gone down that road, I'd probably be on an SSRI for pain, supplemental opiates, some benzo for anxiety, nortriptyline for the fuck of it, an antiseizure medication for the migraine (and visual snow, which wouldn't have helped), ridiculous levels of unneccesary B vitamins, and who knows what else wouldn't have built up in the chain of treating side effects of the initial medication. And at the end of the day, I still wouldn't know anything. I'm not exaggerating either, I've seen this happen with other people time after time, and nothin' ever really changes. They just wither.

Dietary refinements (rather rigid ones), lifestyle changes, exercise, and pursuing answers, meaning, and my own truths about myself and my life, has been the best treatment so far. I learned quite a lot about myself and my lifelong issues are not only dragged into the conscious and known plane, but controllable. Trigeminal nerve pain is episodic and no longer cripples me and dominates my life, maybe I'll solve the core mechanical cause soon... if it's possible. It mainly comes around with muscle tension, like anon mentioned, stress, and certain mindsets.
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Anonymous Sun Feb 22 22:45:37 2015 No.6259402

>>6259401
My life was a haze, I'm surprised I didn't just let myself die a few times, and I had no one. Countless doctors, and nothin'. Waste Clutter. Nonsense. The medical system is broken in more ways then I could put into words, anyone dealing with pain here, or anything else, certainly use it as a resource but do not ever let them fuck you around. Most of them will, and they rarely meaningfully care about you beyond malpractice laws and some vague notion of base human decency. Have to take it into your own hands and be your own judge of things, you know your health, your body, and what you want life to be, much better than they do, and despite what you might think about their long years of college education, often times you're going to know better than they do. Arrogance can be quite a thing, and a certain type of person only achieves greater delusion through education.

I got where I needed to be, eventually, and I'm quite sure I'm not a novel case. Bottom line is, the whole perception of medication use needs to be redefined. It is broken.
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>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 23:16:41 2015 No.6259462 Toasted white bread. Dry.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 22 23:54:13 2015 No.6259533 >>6259398 bilateral*

Anonymous Mon Feb 23 00:09:44 2015 No.6259596

>>6259363
>you just sound way too idealistic.
Go on.

>Quality of life is so subjective; you cannot force your idea of life on other people.
Yet a government can tell people what plant they can smoke. Can fill prisons with people who simply grew their own plant to smoke with arbitrary sentences, some longer than those in for murder. Can waste resources fueling a "war on drugs". Because that serves the collective good and is definitely what we all decided needed to happen.

It's okay when a group capable of projecting superior force tells you how you're going to live. They know best, eh?

Can you show me where I've done the same? Anon, make up your mind, man. You say some people are pawns who require leadership, yet in the same breath criticize any "leadership" that pushes people towards personal empowerment or at the very least, knowledge that can afford positive change in their lives and their ecology as a whole.

It's true. You cannot create without also destroying, you cannot gain without loss, you cannot change without both. Life is dualistic. I'm only imposing my view of what life ought to be through arguing for a lack of imposition. It really doesn't make much difference, this argument eats its own damn tail.

>These are largely apart from the dog and pony show.
They are... to an extent. Unfortunately, they're their own kind of dog and pony. I have attended town meetings. You still have internal social hierarchies, feuds, a few people who get together and secure spots where they can more or less run things. You still have the majority overpowering any disagreement to the contrary. It's the same general thing at play, just slightly more open and on a different scale.

>Life and the world isnt so bad.
Very different conversation. There is duality in all frames. As much as I tend towards tangential relationships and letting things splinter off topic, it's probably more valuable to stay focused.

Anonymous Mon Feb 23 01:02:22 2015 No.6259743

>>6259596
my initial point:

Laws help establish a common definition of justice. It is always changing to fit what the majority of the society believes.

We got off on a tangent about how you believe the government to be unjust and I am saying that it changes to fit how the people want it. Leaving the door open for future changes in how the system is today.
Thought is something that is so personal, so yes, I am criticizing any government that would work to change how I thought.
however, providing the tools witch which one could change their thought pattern is great.
>As Mark Twain once said, “The difference between the almost right word and the right word is really a large matter – it’s the difference between the lightning bug and the lightning.”

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 09:02:49 2015 No.6260360 File: 611 KB, 2448x2448, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] OC ramen fried chicken. Recipe by a stoner (David chang), cooked by a stoner (me), eaten stoned

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 09:08:42 2015 No.6260372 >>6247227 Momofuku milk bar makes it. It's called "Cereal Milk" They make panna cotta and ice cream with it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 09:11:29 2015 No.6260374 >>6259743 >2001 + 14 >putting your faith in anything larger than yourself lol

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