Fat Denial

[Anonymous No.6225788]

Give me the fatties in denial about why they're fat
>Muh genetics
>I don't eat that much
>Muh thyroid
>Underactive metabolism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Dj7g6vjgwo

[Anonymous No.6225984]

Oh, look, geneticists are finding hundreds of genes related to obesity:
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/feb/11/obesity-genes-help-determine-size-and-shape-studies-find

[Anonymous No.6225992]

>>6225984
>finding hundreds of genes related to obesity:
yeah... the ones that don't fit anymore

[Anonymous No.6225998]

>>6225984
>many of which appear to work by changing the way appetite is regulated in the brain, rather than altering basic metabolism
so basically, it's people who don't want to stop eating so much, rather than people who can't actually lose weight
>they find it harder to stop eating so much
yeah, okay

[Anonymous No.6226018]

now i'm not endocrinologist, but i suspect hunger hormones (leptin, ghrelin, peptide yy, etc) are largely at play. fatties just never feel full.

and weight loss really fucks with these hormones, which is why fatties always regain.

>A full year after significant weight loss, these men and women remained in what could be described as a biologically altered state. Their still-plump bodies were acting as if they were starving and were working overtime to regain the pounds they lost. For instance, a gastric hormone called ghrelin, often dubbed the “hunger hormone,” was about 20 percent higher than at the start of the study. Another hormone associated with suppressing hunger, peptide YY, was also abnormally low. Levels of leptin, a hormone that suppresses hunger and increases metabolism, also remained lower than expected. A cocktail of other hormones associated with hunger and metabolism all remained significantly changed compared to pre-dieting levels. It was almost as if weight loss had put their bodies into a unique metabolic state, a sort of post-dieting syndrome that set them apart from people who hadn’t tried to lose weight in the first place.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/01/magazine/tara-parker-pope-fat-trap.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

this hormone problem could easily be genetic.

[Anonymous No.6226025]

>>6225788
Top kek on everything about this post.

[Anonymous No.6226034]

>>6225788
>Evansville

Top kek, isn't that where the lard ass "BAR B Q KING" or whatever the fuck he usually goes by is from?

I wonder how many times his fat wife's ass has been lifted at that hospital? I bet they brought in the crane.

[Anonymous No.6226042]

>>6225788
>caring about other people
Jesus how sad are you.

[Anonymous No.6226048]

>>6225788

Good thread about cooking.

[Anonymous No.6226050]

>>6226018
the issue is gaining that much weight in the first place. They suggest that being fat has a long term effect on those hormone levels. It doesnt appear to be as genetic as much as it is history
>once we become fat, most of us, despite our best efforts, will probably stay fat.

[Anonymous No.6226062]

>>6225788
christ how disgusting.

id die laughing if the road would collapse under their repulsive fat weight.

[Anonymous No.6226064]

>>6226018
>> fatties just never feel full.

irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.6226075]

Wow, imagine if they got physical activity like that a few times a day

[Anonymous No.6226081]

>>6226042
A lack of empathy is a strong autism trait, anon.

[Anonymous No.6226082]

>>6225992
BOOOOSH

FATTIES CANT FIT INTO THEIR PANTS HEHE

[Anonymous No.6226085]

told to me when working at hospital:

"you will see a lot of fat people and a lot of old people but you wont see a lot of fat old people"

[Anonymous No.6226088]

Theyre just fat asses and theyre mad but theyre fat and slow so they cant do shit

[Anonymous No.6226091]

>>6226075
only when they get attention.

[Anonymous No.6226094]

>>6226081
caring about other people, and empathy, are not the same thing.

learn the difference before you ever try to accuse someone of being an autist (which you probably do several times every fucking day)

[Anonymous No.6226097]

>>6226094
Okay, settle down edgy autism-lord.

[Anonymous No.6226098]

>>6225788
I'm a lazy disgusting sack of shit
I like to sit around and mope about how unhappy I am with my weight and how it's such a terrible struggle and how depressed I am about it
and then I do absolutely nothing about it because as much as I want my body to change, I don't want to change my habits.
there are no excuses. It's a lack of willpower. But if I had any I wouldn't be fat in the first place. Because if youd rather worry about diabetes and having a foot cut off than seriously consider just putting down the fucking fork, you have a problem. I think I might kill myself. Because I'd rather commit suicide than stop eating pizza apparently. I obviously don't deserve a spot on the planet.

[Anonymous No.6226102]

>>6226085
nursefag here.

unfortunately thats not true.
i see a lot of fat old people, and they are ten times the work load required than a non-fat one.

as if there wasn't enough reason to hate fatties already, after this i have enough to hate all of them for ever.

fucking shits take so much unnecessary work.

i can deal with 2-3 non-fat patients in the time it takes to deal with 1 fat one.

[Anonymous No.6226104]

>>6226094
hahahaha
this guy

[Anonymous No.6226106]

>>6226097
>>learn the difference before you ever try to accuse someone of being an autist

you are either female or homo, yes?

[Anonymous No.6226107]

>>6226102
all i remember is seeing middleage fat people

but holy shit the smell. I will never forget

[Anonymous No.6226111]

>>6226104
>>6226097
>>6226081
cocksucking same-fag

[Anonymous No.6226115]

>>6226111
This guy just never stops!

[Anonymous No.6226124]

>>6226115
>>is mad cos
>>is cocksucker
>>doesn't know what autism is
>>doesnt know difference between empathy and caring
>>>>got called on and pwned on these
>>>>tremendous butthurt bleeding ensues, like a bitch

[Anonymous No.6226128]

>>6226124
what

[Anonymous No.6226131]

>>6226128
He meant faggot

[Anonymous No.6226134]

>>6226131
wrong guy breh

I just laughed at him for being so offended by someone calling him an autist, on 4chan

and you know what, it is funny. He is a faggot

[Anonymous No.6226167]

>>6226134
nobody has called anyone an autist.
l2read.

its funny how many cunts/homos/cocksuckers don't know even know what autism is.

looks like you are one of those.

[Anonymous No.6226263]

>>6226167
>>6226081
it was implied, dumbass

[Anonymous No.6226441]

>>6225998
you are highly overestimating the power of your "will". behaviour controlling genes are more powerful than anything. Your "discipline" itself is just a gene.

[Anonymous No.6226486]

>>6226106
Why homo?
Fags despise fatties more than anything.

[Anonymous No.6226648]

>>6226098
You need incentive, bruv. You need to find some reason to change your habits, otherwise even if you should manage to change them you'll just fall right back on square one given enough time. You need to expose yourself to the harm you're doing to yourself by seeing, and more importantly, feeling how different your life would be if you did things right.

When you're in a rut, making habitary changes aren't going to have any noticable impact straight away, so it's easy to give up unless you got some reason to care. Since I don't know you I don't know what incentive that would be, but we're all gonna make it bruh.

[Anonymous No.6226685]

>>6225984
>http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/feb/11/obesity-genes-help-determine-size-and-shape-studies-find

So I'm just going to believe that anyone who "read" this article only read the title. Even if you read the end it basically goes back to the most common denominator. We have more food and thus people are more prone to eat more.

Yes, people may be POTENTIALLY more susceptible to developing an eating problem. That DOESNT necessarily mean that they will.

Im not going to hate on fatties but seriously this fat movement needs to stop. I dont care ow comfortable you are. You wont be so comforable when you develop hormonal issues, metabolic disorders, heart disorders and many many others that are LINKED. Once again listen to the word LINKED. Doesnt necessarily mean that it will be the be all and end all answer because there are a billion reasons why people develop diseases Also, dont expect yourself to be the few who may be considered more at risk just because this study that we still dont have the name of says so. . Im just saying that being overweight doesnt fucking help.
Also, unless you are going to mention the study dont link to somehwere like the guardian as proof that this is what the actual study says. They dont even give us the name of the study. They just say that a study in nature and give us the prime author. This author could have written many other articles. Its almost likeas if they dont want us to look it up ourselves.

Anyway, regardless of whether you are overweight or not. Eating heathy and exercise is going to avoid problems. Overeating wil lead to problems. Being overweight can lead to problems.

[Anonymous No.6226715]

>tfw you see a fat person getting out of breath from eating

[Anonymous No.6226717]

>>6225788

I eat very healthy, exercise moderately and am fat as fuck because of alchohol.

literally an extra 1200-1500 calories a day of booze

[Anonymous No.6226721]

>>6226717
>is fat
>consumes 1200 calories in alcohol a day
>healthy

[Anonymous No.6226723]

>>6226018
You can eat all you want if you're physically active every day, and being fit is a better marker for long life than being skinny anyway.

[Anonymous No.6226729]

>>6226723
>You can eat all you want if you're physically active every day
A grain of truth, but mostly wrong
>and being fit is a better marker for long life than being skinny anyway.
Wrong

Not the guy you're replying to. Not especially skinny (about 15% BF). Just more objective than you.

[Anonymous No.6226733]

These kind of people make me sick. I used to 'be close to 300lbs. Now I'm more around 195-205 throughout the week depending how I eat.

I never once thought I was healthy or that I was ok or whatever.

These people are delusional. And no matter what you tell them, they'll never understand. They're too fat down rabbit hole.

[Anonymous No.6226736]

>>6226723
This isn't true.You can't produce an infinite amount of effort per day so there's a high cap on what you can burn. also there's another cap on how much your organs can assimilate. entering high activity + high consumption will ruin your liver pretty fast for instance.

[Anonymous No.6226745]

>>6225788
I'm fat because I eat too much and don't do enough exercise. Cutting out sugar and processed foods isn't gonna help me because I don't even eat them and taxing me is unfair because I go to the doctor once a year and am in better health than a lot of thin people.

[Anonymous No.6226752]

>>6226745
> I go to the doctor once a year and am in better health than a lot of thin people.

2/10 here is your response

[Anonymous No.6226771]

>>6226745
Nice b8 m8

[Anonymous No.6226776]

>>6226745
you're the guy in the video who eats 6 loaves of bread a day, aren't you?

[Anonymous No.6226777]

>>6226729
>>6226736
Okay, my first point was an exaggeration. As far as my second point: http://www.natap.org/2007/HIV/121307_01.htm
Weight is not all there is to being healthy.

[Anonymous No.6226804]

>>6226721

I said I EAT healthy, stupid. But I am relatively healthy despite my fat and drinking

I'm what is known as metabolically normal obese(MNO). I have blood work done every year that tests liver function, blood sugar, hormone and the rest. It's always normal, and exercise tests(VO2/max, heartrate etc) place me at an average level of fitness for my age despite the fact that I am 300 lbs at 6"1'. My BMI is around 28% using calipers

I am generally protected from most fat related illness including diabetes, stroke, and heart disease.

so yes, I am in fact, "fit but fat" and pretty healthy, thanks mostly to moderate exercise and a healthy diet with plenty of whole grains, fruits, vegetables, lean meats and minimal processing.

[Anonymous No.6226813]

>>6225788
Give me the dumbasses in denial about why they're dumb
>Muh genetics
>blahblahblah

No seriously, fuck off to /b/ or whatever you fucking retarded pile of dumb shit.

[Anonymous No.6226848]

>>6225788

[Anonymous No.6226884]

>>6226848
She must take some really fantastic shits

[Anonymous No.6226893]

>>6226884
With all the fat, imagine it's just mud.

[Anonymous No.6226910]

>>6226848
How much do genetic biscuits go for?

[Anonymous No.6227574]

MORE

[Anonymous No.6228236]

>>6226729
>15% BF
>Not especially skinny
No nigger you're not skinny in the slightest.
Skinny is 12% or less BF with low muscle mass, unless you're a woman. I'm skinny 149 6'

[Anonymous No.6228251]

>>6228236

15% looks pretty similar to 12%. We're in a thread about ham planets who are wider than they are tall. 15% might as well be auschwitz mode.

[Anonymous No.6228256]

I'm fat and I know it's because I'm a lazy piece of shit. Does that make me one of the 'better' fatties?

[Anonymous No.6228429]

>>6225984

[Anonymous No.6228532]

>>6228256
yes

[Anonymous No.6228717]

>>6225788
>brushes off legitimate reasons for a person being obese
You're either under the age of 25 or a borderline-obese neckbeard who claims that they would never fuck any woman who's less than "8/10".

Either way, fuck off to /b/

[Anonymous No.6228733]

>>6228717
Using ad hominem to argue against OP makes you an even bigger faggot than OP.

[Anonymous No.6228736]

>>6228717

not OP but none of those are legitimate reasons for being obese

Genetics effect obesity in that some people are more hungry than others, and it is more difficult to satiate them. Aside from uncommon conditions like Cushing's that's about it.

[Anonymous No.6228765]

>>6228717
deep breaths, hambone.

[Anonymous No.6228898]

>>6225788
im a fat piece of shit recovering alcoholic that eats shit food and doesnt work out. but thats why im fat. none of this hurr durr genetics bullshit.

[Anonymous No.6228926]

>>6228717
Sure, they're legitimate reasons.

Few fat people can actually lay claim to those reasons.

[Anonymous No.6228956]

>>6226082
Xtacles!
Mah nigga

[Anonymous No.6229095]

>>6226050
There's also quite a bit of research showing that if one is gestated and born in starvation conditions, that it permanently alters metabolism and hormone production to make the person fat in later life.

[Anonymous No.6229335]

Every person alive is you in different circumstances. I mean this literally. Biologically, mathematically, physically. So you can rant all you want about why things should be different, but they are as they are because they could not be otherwise. Including you.

[Anonymous No.6229346]

>>6225788

Why are there a few normal women in that crowd of landwhales?

[Anonymous No.6229351]

>>6229335
>i'll post this this thing that seems deep but is incredibly shallow
>being this much of a plebeian

[Anonymous No.6229352]

>>6225788

can someone explain why ripped/strong people are classified as obese?

this guy from the vitamin store looks like John Cena but told me that he's classified as obese. that makes zero sense to me. the dude's got incredible health, but he's "obese."

[Anonymous No.6229356]

>>6229352
They are classified by BMI rather than BF%. BMI is a retarded way to determine obesity. You can be 230lbs at 5'10" and 13% BF and be classified obese even if you are a jacked bodybuilder. Then you can be 230lbs at 5'10" and be 30% BF and be, rightly, called obese.

[Anonymous No.6229358]

>>6229356

That's fucking stupid. Why don't we classify by BF?

[Anonymous No.6229359]

>>6226804
If youre 300lb at 6'1 there is absolutely no way youre 28% body fat, bruh. Looking closer to the 40-45% range. The only people who are 28% at 300lb (who aren't freakishly tall) are professional bodybuilders.

I mean think of it. 28% bf at 300lb would imply that youre 216lb of lean body mass. No alcoholic is getting close to that level of LBM.

[Anonymous No.6229368]

>>6229358

Because its a lot easier to refer to a chart than to accurately measure body fat.

You can get some nimrod like >>6229359 explained believing that he is 28% BF at 300lb's without being some sort of walking artificial hormone factory, and calling himself "Fit" while being an obese alcoholic.

[Anonymous No.6229369]

>>6229359

I thought a lot of pro athletes were alcoholics. Is that just a stereotype?

[Anonymous No.6229370]

>>6229358
It's a lot easier to classify BMI. You don't need any equipment, you just reference a chart. TO do BF% you need calipers and some rudimentary know-how. It's also because BMI was used early, way, way back and is just a institution by now.

>>6229359
28% isn't that unbelievable but it definitely isn't alcoholic fatass believable. 28% BF at 300lb 6'1 is basically intermediate/beginning of elite powerlifter. I could see like 35% at lowest for that guy assuming he works hard and goes to the gym every once in a while.

[Anonymous No.6229375]

>>6229369
It would be extremely counter-intuitive to anyone who is a pro-athletic in any field to be an alcoholic (at least during their working season).

Such a thing could make or break your career, by severely hindering your performance.

Try exercising while drunk or even slightly hungover, its not something you will find easy.

[Anonymous No.6229382]

>>6229375

So the football-player-beer-chugger stereotype is just that?

What about other drugs?

[Anonymous No.6229390]

>>6229351
Don't know why it seems deep to you, it's pretty obvious, but pretty much universally overlooked. Your classism only makes you look cool to other classists, btw. No matter.

[Anonymous No.6229394]

>>6229382
Its impossible to classify every athlete as X or Y, especially considering the many diversified sports which contain many diversified positions, which have differing physical and mental requirements. Im sure theres plenty who like to drunk, but its no where near stereotype level.

I can say this much though, I hit the gym 6 days a week, and have engaged in conversation with those individuals who don't even look human anymore because the amount of muscle they have. A lot of them refuse to touch alcohol cus >muhcalories, but enjoy stim abuse such as cocaine and MDMA.

[Anonymous No.6229399]

>>6229394

Oh god, ecstasy nerds. I didn't know they came in /fit/ form.

[Anonymous No.6229410]

>>6229359

I had my checkup and skin fold test last summer. At that time, my dead/squat/bench was 475/365/225 for 3, I could do a handstand and 2 pullups and my VO2max was right around 35

I'm been pretty lazy this winter so i probably have lost some muscle. You're right, i'm a bowl of blubber that's gonna die soon, get me muh scooter

>>6229368
argue with my doctor, manlet. I'm fat.

but also fit.

>dealwithit.jpg

[Anonymous No.6229446]

>>6226804
>>6229370
>>6229410
Wrong man, it's pretty unbelieveable even if he wasn't drinking bear.
When Arnold, who is 6'2" and probably around 2% or less BF during competition was around 235lbs, it's hard for me to believe there's some retard on this board who drinks bear, doesn't exercise 5 times a week professionally get be 6'1" 215lbs LBM. Fat people trying to lie out their ass.
>http://www.bodybuilding.com/bodybuilders/arnold.htm

[Anonymous No.6229459]

Threads like these makes me wonder if people are delusional, retarded or trolling. I hope it's the last one, but I imagine it's the first two.

[Anonymous No.6229473]

>>6229446
>Drinking fucking bears
>Giving a fuck about anything but murdering bears and drinking them
Pick 2 m8

[Anonymous No.6229475]

>>6229446
Dude you don't know what you are talking about. There are TONS of fat 28% BF 300lb powerlifters. There are at least a dozen at my gym alone. Getting that ridiculous amount of LBM with a combination of low body fat is impressive. Also
>exercising 5 times a week

The dude is obviously talking out of his ass but if you think 215 LBM at 300lbs is so out of this world you compare it to legendary Arnold you are out of your fucking mind. Which I'm sure is the case because again
> exercise 5 times a week professionally to get to be be 6'1" 215lbs LBM

[Anonymous No.6229486]

>>6229475
How delusional are you?
Do you honestly think some hambone 300lb DYEL faggot is going to have 215lbs of LBM when that's 20lbs less than Arnold on his fucking competition time, and when he's an inch shorter?
Incase you didn't know, you'd have to exercise a considerable amount with at least an hour and a half each day on isolation exercises to get that big. You don't just consume whey and magically grow muscles faggot.
Face it, this guy downing the beers is going to be 40% BF and lazy as fuck.
>Dude you don't know what you are talking about. There are TONS of fat 28% BF 300lb powerlifters
What does that have to do with this guy? Can someone else exercise and transfer their gains to him? No. This guy is fat as fuck, face it.

[Anonymous No.6229503]

>>6229486
>What does that have to do with this guy?
Because you said
>Wrong man, it's pretty unbelieveable even if he wasn't drinking bear.
215lb LBM at 300lbs is NOT HARD AT ALL. That's like 1 year of moderate lifting for someone that size. And I know your trolling because of this gem:
>at least an hour and a half each day on isolation exercises

>Do you honestly think some hambone 300lb DYEL faggot is going to have 215lbs of LBM when that's 20lbs less than Arnold on his fucking competition time, and when he's an inch shorter?
What is your obsession with comparing him to Arnold? It makes no fucking sense. If it's too compare LBM then it doesn't make any sense because there are lots of people with more. You're saying, according to your posts, that is basically impossible to be 300 lbs at 28% BF. Obviously not this guy but you keep saying things like:
>it's pretty unbelieveable even if he wasn't drinking bear
Nothing about being 300lb with 215lbs LBM is even remotely unbelievable. Plus the fact you keep comparing it to Arnold for some unknown reason makes me think you are talking out of your ass. Also, closing with this gem:
>isolation exercises to get that big

[Anonymous No.6229538]

>>6229486
>
what this >>6229475 guy said

I'm not even that spectacular, I'm the big fat fuckin guy at the gym that lifts heavy. and you're dumb if you think that means 5 days a week/90minutess at a time

3x a week and 30 minutes to do muh lifts and I'm done. squats, deads, incline bench, power cleans, military press. that's it once a month of so i go for max just to see where I'm at. I could probably pull 500 off the floor for one rep but i'd probably also hurt myself so that's about where I'm at

I'd post a pic but this is /ck/ not /soc/

so....do you want my pulled pork recipe? great for dem gainz bruh.

[Anonymous No.6229540]

>>6229538

forgot i also take regular long walks, bike and row that's my cardio

[Anonymous No.6229547]

>>6225788
I was fat because I lived with my parents.

>eat less
>"Anon eat more it's unhealthy to not eat."
>eat more veggies and less meat
>"Anon are you anorexic?"
>ask parents to not buy soda and sweets and suggest we all eat better
>"Fuck off anon, we're entitled to buy what we want and serve what we please."
>try to explain that it's hard to control my cravings and that I had to rely on what they bought because I didn't make enough money at my job to buy my own food
>"Well that's your problem anon, not ours, here have some cake."
>point out it's unfair for them to eat unhealthy when they can at least control their cravings because their chain smoking reduces their appetite
>"WE KNOW SMOKING AND EATING UNHEALTHY IS BAD ANON, DO AS WE SAY NOT AS WE DO"
>...can we at least exercise together?
>"ANON FFS WE'RE TIRED OR WE DON'T FEEL LIKE IT"

I moved out and lost weight. They haven't changed their habits and now they're the ones gaining weight because they're forced to live around their own junk food problem.
My mom ballooned to whale size when she switched to vape instead of cigarettes because her appetite wasn't being reduced anymore. It was poetic justice.
Though, I worry about their health now.

[Anonymous No.6229578]

>>6229503
215LBM at 300lb not hard at all? If you were 7 feet tall yea. Arnold would hover around 235 during competition time in his prime (This was before Hgh was established in pro-bodybuilding) and usually, 5% BF is what people walk on stage with. 5% of 235 is 11.75 pounds.

Anon claims 28% at 300lb, so 216LBM. Arnold, who stood at 6'2, had 235-11.75 = 223.25LBM in his prime, which he admittedly used steroids to help him achieve.

You're telling me, some fat, 300lb alcoholic neckbeard, is somehow a mere 7~ pounds of LBM short from being compared to a pro-builder?

Srs?

[Anonymous No.6229609]

>>6225788
Genetics was proven, m8. their's studies out there..
Honestly though, I think it's their gut flora that's fucked, Constantly making them crave shit foods.

http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/genetic-basis-obesity-strengthened-new-studies

[Anonymous No.6229638]

>>6229540
You count walking as cardio?
Only in America.
If you're not out of breath by the time you're done, I wouldn't count it as cardio.
Rowing and biking is definitely cardio.

[Anonymous No.6229640]

>>6229503
>>6229538
See, I'm not the only one doubting this faggot.
Refer to him.>>6229578

[Anonymous No.6229648]

>>6225788
im fat because i eat too much
i'm not in denial at all, and I won't feel shame until it negatively effects my life

[Anonymous No.6229665]

>>6229638

I'm 300 pounds bruh. walking a couple miles counts as exercise. I usually summit at least one 3000+ peak a year too

[Anonymous No.6229681]

>>6229665
3000ft or 3000m? I'm going to assume since you said pounds you're American, because I don't know of many mountains in the UK. 3000ft is absolutely nothing. That's an overgrown hill.

[Anonymous No.6229701]

>>6226721

>you wanted to shit on someone so bad that you lost all ability to comprehend what you're reading

you're fucking pathetic

[Anonymous No.6229733]

>>6229648
It will negatively affect your life as you get older. It's better to tackle the problem when you're younger because it's easier to lose weight when you're younger. Just a warning, bro. Even though I'm only just turned 30, it's already a lot harder for me to lose weight than it was in my early 20s, and it's only going to get harder. You keep eating the same amount you do now, as your metabolism slows as you age, you're going to balloon up and up man. Just giving advice. Take it or leave it.

[Anonymous No.6229788]

>>6226804
>>6226717
>literally an extra 1200-1500 calories a day of booze

alcohol isn't healthy, tard

[Anonymous No.6229807]

>>6225984
There must be a gene controlling metabolism though. For example, no matter how much I eat I never gain any substantial weight. I'm 164cm tall and weigh about 55kg (20 years old). I've tried gaining weight, but its either not much or its just not worth force feeding myself.

[Anonymous No.6229815]

>>6226804
>6'1", 300 lbs
>28% body fat

Oh come on! How delusional can you get? Unless you are a power lifter with LOTS of muscle, there is NO WAY you are only at that body fat.

>place me at an average level of fitness for my age

"Average" as in the average American? Because the average American is not fit.

>plenty of whole grains and fruits
>1200 - 1500 calories of alcohol

With that abundance of carbs and sugar in your diet, you are certainly not eating healthy and you are on the fast track to diabetes. Congratulations!

[Anonymous No.6229823]

>>6229807
>never gain any substantial weight
>20 years old

There's your answer. That changes as you get older.

[Anonymous No.6229853]

>>6229815
>Oh come on! How delusional can you get? Unless you are a power lifter with LOTS of muscle, there is NO WAY you are only at that body fat.
This
>"Average" as in the average American? Because the average American is not fit.
This
>With that abundance of carbs and sugar in your diet, you are certainly not eating healthy and you are on the fast track to diabetes. Congratulations!
And this.
Multiple people blowing this guy the fuck out of the fatty water.
BEACH THE WHALE, MAN THE HARPOONS, HARVEST THE BLUBBER!

[Anonymous No.6229863]

>>6229807
Every time I hear someone say they can't gain weight no matter how much they eat, and then I see their eaten patterns, i'm never surprised.

Metabolism doesn't vary greatly over individuals of the same mass and size, 5% in most extreme conditions.

I know obese people, and they EAT like its going out of style.

>b-but I eat so much anon!!

Trust me, you don't. Sit down for a week and ACCURATELY measure out how many calories you've ingested on average per day, i bet you wont break 2000kcal/day.

[Anonymous No.6229870]

>>6229807
Slow down and adjust your habit while you can.

You might be lucky and simply have a good balance for input/expenditure of energy, or you might suddenly realize you've gained 30 pounds in 3 years with no change in diet.

[Anonymous No.6229918]

>>6229815
>Unless you are a power lifter with LOTS of muscle, there is NO WAY

I am. I posted my stats above. 1000lb club, baby.
>"Average" as in the average American?

http://www.topendsports.com/testing/norms/vo2max.htm#

Average
>>plenty of whole grains and fruits
>>1200 - 1500 calories of alcohol
>you are on the fast track to diabetes

you are functionally retarded.

[Anonymous No.6229945]

I'm overweight and 11/10 qt gave me a smile just a few hours ago.

Eat shit assclowns.

[Anonymous No.6229963]

>>6229918
>1200 - 1500 calories of alcohol, you are on the fast track to diabetes
Americans actually believe it's healthy to inject 1200-1500 liquid carbohydrate calories on top of whatever else they're ingesting to cause an insulin spike on the daily, and it will in no way cause type II diabetes later on in life.

[Anonymous No.6229965]

>>6225788

[Anonymous No.6229982]

>>6229918
Dude, consuming that much alcohol daily will lead to diabetes if you keep that up.

Also, no one's buying your claim that you're a power lifter until you post proof.

[Anonymous No.6229991]

>>6229815

>whole grains and fruits
>unhealthy/make you diabetic

Don't be retarded. The guy's definitely bullshitting though

[Anonymous No.6230000]

>>6229991
>ignoring the "plenty of" part
>ignoring that I also pointed out his high alcohol consumption in conjunction with this

Whole grains and fruit are fine as a part of a balanced diet, but should not comprise the bulk of it as the old food pyramid incorrectly indicates. Second, I was considering the "plenty of" whole grains and fruit consumption along with the abnormally high daily alcohol consumption.

Yes, all of those factors combined will lead to diabetes.

[Anonymous No.6230002]

>>6229945

>girl laughs at you
>take it as a positive thing because you got some kind of attention

[Anonymous No.6230003]

>>6229991
You realize it doesn't matter what kind of sugar it is, whether it's fructose, sucrose, or any other ose, as long as it's a spike in your immediate blood sugar and you do this a few times a day, eventually you're going to develope insulin tolerance and won't be able to digest sugars properly, commonly known as diabetes. It doesn't matter if it's 200g in soda, or 200g in bread, all the same, just ones a bit slower burning.

[Anonymous No.6230004]

>>6230000

What's wrong with eating "plenty of" whole grains and fruits? They absolutely should comprise the bulk of your calories. When it comes to diabetes, they also lower your diabetes risk. You may be confusing whole grains and fruits with refined grains and soda.

[Anonymous No.6230009]

>>6230003

>as long as it's a spike in your blood sugar

And why would you assume there's a "spike"? Half the point of eating whole grains and fruits is that they don't spike your blood sugar, they provide steady energy. Both whole grains and fruits are associated with lower risk of developing diabetes. The people who eat the most of these foods have the lowest rates of diabetes.

[Anonymous No.6230013]

>>6229963
Are you sp retarded that you can't comprehend a whole post and can only read snippets? He said he eats healthy but the calories from alcohol are making him fat. You quasi liberate piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.6230021]

>>6230013
It's the power-point generation.

[Anonymous No.6230030]

>>6230003
>>6230009
> immediate spike in blood sugar
> few times a day
> eventually diabetes


This is gotta be the stupidest most symplistic shit I've ever heard. Did you know when you eat a meal.... every meal... it spikes your blood sugar like 20-30%???

You would have been diabetic as a toddler if your theory was true.

> take shits several times a day
> soon your asshole will develop a shit tolerance
> walk around the office in diapers - only way

[Anonymous No.6230042]

>>6229965
>BRUISED APPLE
>NOTITS

0/10 WOULDNT CORE

[Anonymous No.6230048]

>>6226717
It doesn't matter how "healthy" you eat when you drink like shit.

You're like that person getting a salad and then smothering it in mayo or going to McDonalds and ordering a diet coke thinking it will balance out with the garbage they eat.

[Anonymous No.6230051]

>>6230042
>doesn't know how boobies work

Unless you have way larger than average breasts, they're going to disappear when you lay on your back. Especially at that angle. Breasts don't feel like sandbags you know?

[Anonymous No.6230058]

>>6230051
>breasts will dissappear
> not like sandbags

You don't know shit about sandbags, do you?

[Anonymous No.6230102]

>>6230004
>You may be confusing whole grains and fruits with refined grains and soda.

No, you are the one that's confused. Keep reading.

>>6230003
>>6230030
The problem with different types of sugar forming the bulk of your diet, regardless of the type of sugar, is that it can lead to diabetes as well as buildup of fat around your organs. Fruit has fructose, and carbs are broken down into glucose. Whole grain breads are better than white breads, but not by much and they really shouldn't form a bulk of your diet. They're fine in moderation, but you should be eating more healthy fats, proteins, and vegetables than fruits, whole grains, starches.

[Anonymous No.6230134]

>>6230102

>The problem with different types of sugar forming the bulk of your diet, regardless of the type of sugar, is that it can lead to diabetes as well as buildup of fat around your organs

Where did you get that idea? Can you find me any study where whole grains were shown to increase diabetes risk? Because I can bomb this thread with link after link showing whole grains are protective against diabetes. The way whole grains/fruits digest slowly increases insulin sensitivity rather than causing insulin resistance. It makes insulin work better. You're more likely to get diabetes from red meat or eggs than you are from whole grains, since saturated fat lowers insulin sensitivity.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23779232
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2628696/

[Anonymous No.6230171]

>>6230134
Not that guy but since my father developed mild diabetes(around age 55) I've been worried about my diet. Right now I eat a decent amount of whole wheat, nuts and fruits but also a decent amount of potatoes, rice and at least one sweet a day. I'm not close to fat but then apart from a little around the waist neither was my father.

Any tips of shit I should keep in mind dietwise? Are things like bananas okay? Is stuff like granola in the morning alright?

[Anonymous No.6230175]

>>6230009
>>6230013
>>6230030
Yes but PLENTY of whole grains and fruits on top of 1200-1500 calories of beer is going to cause diabetes, there's no way around this.

[Anonymous No.6230182]

>>6230175
If the alcohol is going to cause beetus it's going to. The grains and the fruits will either have no effect or a negative effect. What they are going to cause is obesity, since he's already getting all the calories he needs the alcohol is putting him way over.

[Anonymous No.6230185]

>>6230175

Being fat is a risk factor for diabetes, so he's definitely susceptible to diabetes. To imply that the whole grain and fruit is contributing to the problem rather than actively helping him avoid diabetes is where we disagree. That's just unfounded.

[Anonymous No.6230205]

>>6230171

>Any tips of shit I should keep in mind dietwise?

Legumes are some of the best foods to prevent diabetes. Eat lentils, beans, chickpeas, split peas, etc at each meal if possible, or at least daily. If that's white rice you're eating, switch to brown rice or try to substitute it from time to time with barley, and try to favor sweet potatoes over white potatoes. Bananas should be fine, but I don't think granola is very good. Most granola is heavily sweetened with a bunch of added oils.

In general, get lean and eat lean. Eat whole foods rather than refined foods. Don't be afraid of carbohydrates like some of the guys in this thread, just be mindful of what you're getting them from.

http://nutritionfacts.org/?s=diabetes

[Anonymous No.6230215]

>>6230134
Type 3 diabetes, friend.

http://www.westonaprice.org/modern-diseases/type-3-diabetes-metabolic-causes-of-alzheimers-disease/
http://healthimpactnews.com/2012/new-research-continues-to-show-alzheimers-is-a-type-3-diabetes/
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/03/31/diet-may-slow-alzheimers.aspx
http://www.boston.com/dailydose/2012/10/01/alzheimer-disease-akin-type-diabetes/ONtkkk9J3n69NQBQkX3Z3K/story.html

>saturated fat
Sure you should eat saturated fats in moderation, but some sources of saturated fat can help prevent type 2 diabetes.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2717385/Saturated-fats-actually-BEAT-diabetes-Molecules-dairy-items-including-yoghurts-cut-Type-2-risk.html
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/280645.php

[Anonymous No.6230216]

>>6230182
>>6230185
Delusional as fuck if you think carbs + carbs + liquid carbs probably totally more than 2000-2500 calories a day at his weight is not going to have an increase on risk for diabetes.
I'm starting to suspect you eat like sir land whale as well if you're going to unironically defend this diet.

[Anonymous No.6230222]

>>6230205
I'm Indian and vegetarian so I already eat a lot of what you mentioned as part of a normal diet (I think the only reason diabetes is prevalent in India is because of our insane sweet tooth.)

I like granola but you're right and I might try making my own to regulate what goes in it. I don't mind brown rice but that shit takes a week to cook. Sweet potatoes are a good recommendation though.

Thanks for the help.

[Anonymous No.6230225]

>>6230185
>whole grains...actively help him avoid diabetes

Not so fast.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080124203630.htm

[Anonymous No.6230232]

>>6230205
tl:dr stick to carbs with a low glycemic index

[Anonymous No.6230235]

>ITT: People who pretend to know stuff and talk out of their asses

>>>/fit/

Yes, they are a bunch of retarded faggots, but they're better than you guys at the subject.

[Anonymous No.6230239]

>>6229538
Fuck yeah I want your pulled pork recipe

[Anonymous No.6230242]

>>6230216
Are you implying that if he swapped out his grains calories for protein and fat keeping everything else the same he'd be at a lower risk of diabetes?

Are you sure eating bacon instead of grains reduced diabetes risk in alcoholics? You should publish these findings immediately.

[Anonymous No.6230249]

>>6230215

>the Weston A. Price Foundation
>Joseph Mercola

I'll give you the benefit and assume you don't know what these websites are or who runs them, and I'll even say sure to Alzheimer's Disease being "type 3 diabetes." This doesn't implicate whole grains or fruits causing insulin resistance or, now, Alzheimer's.
>Some types of saturated fat may protect against developing diabetes – contrary to the notion that they all increase the risk, say researchers.

This is probably true since it's true for heart disease as well, there are different saturated fatty acids and not all are necessarily harmful. What's misleading about this is the fact that all saturated fats are a combination of these fatty acids, so to say "this food contains non-harmful saturated fatty acids" doesn't necessarily mean "this food doesn't contain the other, harmful types."

[Anonymous No.6230266]

>>6230249
Did you read those sites? A diet high in carbohydrates was implicated in increased Alzheimer's risk.

Again, we aren't saying don't eat whole grains and fruit, just that a diet high in them, coupled with all the alcohol he drinks, is unhealthy.

[Anonymous No.6230275]

>>6230235
/fit/ is probably the least knowledgeable board as a whole regarding it's board topic than any other.

[Anonymous No.6230285]

>>6230266

>A diet high in carbohydrates

Is different from "a diet high in whole grains and fruits." The standard American diet is "high in carbohydrates" from refined grains and sugars, and at the same time is also high in fat, which has to take atleast part of the blame. What do you make of this video?

http://nutritionfacts.org/video/alzheimers-disease-grain-brain-or-meathead/

[Anonymous No.6230292]

Fatties that use the "slow metabolism" excuse piss me off. See, I've got a certain health condition, so I actually do have a slowed metabolism.
But guess what?
That means I don't get hungry as often as most people do and, therefore, I don't tend to eat as much as others. As a result, I'm not overweight.
My doctors have estimated that my BMR is about 75% that of comparable guys, nonetheless, because I don't eat unless I'm hungry to begin with, I don't get fat.
The bigger problem, though, is that I'm nearly always tired and have difficulty building muscle.

[Anonymous No.6230299]

>>6230275
Doesn't matter when every other board is even more retarded. As proven by this thread.

[Anonymous No.6230355]

>>6230285
I was having a discussion with one of the anti carb people on /ck/. What surprised me is most of them blame carbs for the fat they overeat. A pound of potatoes contains as many calories are 2 tbsp(and a bit) of olive oil e.i. 250-300 kcals. But most anti carb people will happily shun a pound of potatoes for a 3 tbsp of oil despite the former being nutritionally far superior.

[Anonymous No.6230390]

>>6230355

I've blown people away before by revealing that potato chips are more fat calories than they are carb calories. People will also take a baked potato and spread so much butter, cheese, or sour cream on it that the added fat has twice as many calories as the potato it's on. Therefore, potatoes make you fat, and by extension all carbs are fattening.

[Anonymous No.6230401]

Fat guy here.
I know i'm fat, but i'm working on it.
I think people would be amazed at how much weight you can lose simply by cutting out greasy fried shit and sodas from your diet.
You don't even have to exercise.
Just cut back on the coke and fried foods, and you'll lose an easy 5lbs a week simply by sitting on your ass.

[Anonymous No.6230423]

>>6230390
I love the combination of butter and potatoes. Boiled and then sauteed potatoes with a bit of lemon and cayenne are probably the best thing ever. But I know that the fat that makes it delicious is also what makes it unhealthy.

[Anonymous No.6230429]

>>6230390
Overgeneralizing is rampant in the diet and health community to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

Your point about potatoes being demonized as a carb because of the unnecessary additions to it which jack up its calories is actually the answer to why people see carbs as evil.

Carb based dishes usually contain a shit ton of unnecessary calories from additions such as oils,fats,sauces,etc.

It became easier to just claim that carbs all together were evil than to say "Well you can eat rice but.. don't eat rice with this sauce, or don't have this kind of side addition to your rice"

[Anonymous No.6230599]

>>6230242
No one said anything about bacon faggot.
Nice strawman trying to swing it from the unhealthy alcohol to the unhealthy bacon. No, he should eat and drink less in general, and look for healthier alternatives.

[Anonymous No.6230605]

>>6230285
>A diet high in carbohydrates Is different from "a diet high in whole grains and fruits

[Anonymous No.6230624]

>>6230599
>No, he should eat and drink less in general
That's the point I was trying to make. You were attempting to demonize grains using the usual >muh carbs route. The point I was making was that as long as he's consuming the calories he's consuming, grains are the best way to obtain them. Protein and fat both contain more calories than grains.

Your entire shtick has been trying to make grains look like the unhealthy option. When they are literally the best part of his diet.

>>6230605
A diet high in whole grains and fruits is high in carbohydrates but a diet high in carbohydrates is not necessarily a diet high in whole grains and fruits. It's a necessary but not sufficient condition.

[Anonymous No.6230669]

>>6229863
Well for one, because I live in catered accommodation, I know certainly that I don't eat less than others, if anything I eat more than them (judging from plates) and I also eat a lot of snacks on the side. Even then I don't seem to be gaining weight towards the average for my height and age.

>>6229870
I've been eating the same diet for the past 1 and a half years.

But one thing that might help me burn calories is that I'm very fidgety. I find it incredibly uncomfortable sitting in lecturers for hours, so I often shake or move my legs a lot. Not sure if its my body trying to burn calories because I eat too much for my body type, or whether the fidgeting is making me burn calories.

[Anonymous No.6230670]

>>6230624
That's 100% not the argument you were making.
>What so he can't eat fruits and grains?... Pfft what should he eat, b-bacon? Haha bacon isn't healthy!
God what a strawman.
>A diet high in whole grains and fruits is high in carbohydrates but a diet high in carbohydrates is not necessarily a diet high in whole grains and fruits.
Yeah except you didn't say it that way, you said.
>A diet high in carbohydrates Is different from "a diet high in whole grains and fruits
You and this obese fuck need to get the fuck out of this thread.

[Anonymous No.6230720]

>>6230670
You're conflating two posters. I just clarified that the two diets are different. I didn't make the statement. Just like a KFC diet is different to a high protein diet.

As for my bacon equivalency I clarified why I made it. As long as someone overconsuming calories grains are pretty much the best way to do so. Which is what that guys was demonizing.

[Anonymous No.6230880]

>>6230720
No you fucking moron, everyone whos harping on 300lb 40% BF fatty keeps saying the carbs aren't the fucking problem.
It's carbs from fruit, carbs from wheat, and carbs from 1200-1500 calories of alcohol on the daily that's the problem.
You have a 1st reading comprehension, don't make me demote you to preppy K.

[Anonymous No.6230898]

>>6230239

Alright!

there's two things to know- one is to trim off as much visible fat as you can before you cook, and second is to cook it in some liquid so it draw the fat out as it renders

1 cup soy sauce
1 large ginger root mashed but not minced(you remove it later
1 head garlic gloves minced
red pepper flakes to taste(I do about 2 large TBSP) or spicy flavor of choice


get a boston butt and trim it well.

pierce the roast with a meat fork a whole lot of times and put in it a bag with the marinade for >4 hours

drizzle the butt with touch of honey or a little brown sugar

roast butt + plus marinade in a covered pan at 300 for around 4-5 hours for a 2.5 lb roast. just cook it until you can pull peices off with your fingers

pour off the pan liquid (very important to get the fat out) into a tall container.

let the roast cool, and pull the meat off the bones
into a bowl. carefully separate the fat from the top of the reserved liquid and add the fat-less pot liquor back into the shredded pork until it tastes right

wa la! Asian BBQ pulled pork. awesome stirfryed with broccoli or bell peppers or in buns, dunmplings and wraps/rolls

eat with a whole grain ;)

[Anonymous No.6230921]

>>6229807
There doesn't really need to be a "gene" that does it. Epigenetics and the (de)activation of regulatory and hormonal pathways would be far more probable.

[Anonymous No.6230963]

>>6226848
How do you eat five sandwiches in one day?

[Anonymous No.6230968]

>>6230963
Sliders

[Anonymous No.6231117]

>>6229807
I had the same problem, turns out I have a genetic metabolic syndrome. Get tested, dude.

[Anonymous No.6231533]

>>6230880

> everyone whos harping on 300lb 40% BF fatty keeps saying the carbs aren't the fucking problem.
>It's carbs from fruit, carbs from wheat, and carbs from 1200-1500 calories of alcohol on the daily that's the problem.

It looks like people are saying "too many carbs" causes diabetes, which is of course wrong. That's been the entire argument so far. People worrying about "a diet high in carbs" as if that hasn't traditionally been the diet least associated with diabetes. I won't fight you saying that 1200-1500 calories of alcohol (which is its own calorie source separate from carbohydrate) is bad, but what you're not getting is that eating "plenty of" whole grains and fruits does not contribute to diabetes despite containing carbohydrates, and if anything makes you less likely to become diabetic. Diabetes isn't a problem of eating too many carbs, it's a problem of insulin resistance. Some carb sources can contribute to insulin resistance, other carb improve insulin sensitivity. Other factors can also contribute to insulin resistance, such as excess body fat, which the guy has. If he manages to develop diabetes some day, it'd probably be from being overweight, not from eating whole wheat and fruits, which are otherwise known to be beneficial in preventing diabetes. And why lump those foods in with beer?

[Anonymous No.6231562]

>>6231533
>It looks like people are saying "too many carbs" causes diabetes
I don't care what the fuck you're interpreting this as, stop shit posting.
Consuming presumeably 2000+ calories in carbs (that's on the conservative range considering he said PLENTY of fruits and grains on top of the 1200-1500 calories in beer), on top of whatever else he's eating, meats, etc.
Yeah, that's gonna give him type II eventually.
Don't give me that "well that's not entirely true" bullshit. You and every other tumblrina need a reality check.
Stop shitposting faggot.

[Anonymous No.6231738]

>>6231562

I don't see how what I'm reading and what you're saying are different. My position is still that eating 2000+ calories worth of carbs does not necessarily mean diabetes, and if you believe it does, you're not welcome to discuss nutrition on this board anymore.

[Anonymous No.6231917]

>>6229807
>no matter how much I eat I never gain any substantial weight.

Here we go again...

Try keeping a food diary and counting your calorie intake idiot. Keep track of physical activity and get a rough estimate for calories lost as well.

People who always make the 'I never gain weight no matter how much I eat/I never lose weight no matter how little I eat' always overestimate/underestimate how much they eat.

[Anonymous No.6231927]

>>6226018
>fatties just never feel full.

The reason for their obesity is in the easy availability of food stuffs of high calorie content.

Many of these hormones work on feedback loops and otherwise can end up desensitized if overstimulated - which brings us to a cause/effect question. Were these pigs with a altered hormonal balance before or after their crappy diet they had during their upbringing.

[Anonymous No.6231932]

>>6226042

Yeah, we care when it has a pretty big knock on effect for society as our healthcare systems struggle to cope. As rates of obesity and related health disorders sky rocket. As money is wasted on 'pig out but stay slim' 'cures' as well as the physically revolting sight of fatties out and about in the world.

[Anonymous No.6232121]

>>6225788
[EARTHQUAKE INTENSIFY]

[Anonymous No.6232260]

>>6231562

Hey, it's me- 300lb 6'1" fit fat guy here. I usually eat around 40-30-30 carbs/protein/fat, and budget 2200 kcal per day(not counting the booze) so that's about 1000kcal per day of carbs and will normally include a serving(or 2 teehee) of oatmeal, a sandwich or toast of whole grain bread, several apples, oranges, carrots, a salad and veggies with dinner as well as brown rice(Texas basmati usually), potatoes, or whole grain rolls I bake for the famliy

My blood sugar is aggressively normal at all times and I'm not at risk for any of the metabolic disorders associated with obesity because I am metabolically normal obese(MNO-look it up)

i don't waddle, smell or restrict my activity and engage in a generally normal lifestyle, have hobbies and a career.

Does that make you mad?

Can you tell me how mad I make you?

Does it hurt inside? Do you sometimes cry at night knowing I'm a real person? Do you want to...talk about it?

[Anonymous No.6232288]

>>6226441
so you're saying that people who are genetically predisposed to have no self control should be accepted as viable human beings?

[Anonymous No.6232326]

>>6226717
>tfw the calories are the only thing keeping me from being drunk every single day

I used to get drunk every day for a couple of months but I put on weight so I stopped.

[Anonymous No.6232362]

>>6232260
I doubt you're the original 300lb hamplanet who posted earlier, but its kind of ironic you know, this being a thread about fat denial, and then some fat ass derails the thread because hes in denial.

[Anonymous No.6232389]

>>6231562
I assume what you mean by eating too many carbs gives you diabetes is insulin resistance. Insulin resistance doesn't develop in everybody, and that is only one part of diabetes.

[Anonymous No.6232402]

>>6230292
So, because you don't get hungry as much, that means other people with hypothyroidism don't get hungry as much? That's some shit logic you have there. But maybe that slow metabolism of yours has slowed your thinking.

[Anonymous No.6232408]

>>6230299
/fit/ pls fuck off. You have a severe case of unwarranted self importance.

[Anonymous No.6232418]

>>6231738
If you think carbs are the only thing that cause an insulin response, you're wrong. IIRC, ground beef has the highest insulin response. Compound that shit with 2k in carbs, + the fact that alcohol needs to be handled by the liver separately, and this guy is going to need a liver transplant no time flat.
>>6232260
>40-30-30 carbs/protein/fat
>I eat a diet RICH in fruits and grains + 1200-1500 calories in alcohol
>Not knowing that means you would be eating over 2k in carbs minimum
>Not knowing that means you eat over 5k calories daily
>MFW we all know why you're 300lbs now
>MFW yeah that sounds about right for a guy at 300lbs
Enjoy that fucked up liver anon.

[Anonymous No.6232447]

Is it easier for fat to collect or whatever where you previously had muscle mass or whatever? And what does the average 140-160 kilogram overweight/obese person look like anyway?

[Anonymous No.6232460]

>>6232447
I just went on wikipedia and pulled this image.
The guy in this thread claims to be 300lbs and 6'1".
We now know from what he said earlier he eats roughly 5000 calories total a day, with 2000 of those being carbs.
Here's an image of a 5'10" 321lb man, which is about 177cm 146kg
Unless the faggot proves otherwise, this is what you can assume he looks like.

[Anonymous No.6232475]

>>6232460
I was more asking for myself, last time i weighed myself, it was at 138kg, and that was around 6 months ago.

The thing is i don't look like that at all, and i am just wondering how i wiegh that much when i don't really look like that pic, although i think it is because most of my wieght is in my lower body.

I don't exercise and eat poorly, so i am stumped more than anything, because even though i use to do sports in my early teenage years i have since stopped for about 10 years

[Anonymous No.6232484]

>>6232475
>The thing is i don't look like that at all, and i am just wondering how i wiegh that much when i don't really look like that pic
Prove it. No pics no proof. If you weigh 300lbs at 6'1", you most likely look like this sack of shit.

[Anonymous No.6232499]

>>6230292
Atleast you'll live to 100 (if you don't fuck yourself up in other ways), good trade of I guess.

[Anonymous No.6232508]

>>6232484
I would if i honestly could take a picture, and i know it may sound i am just trying to lie throught it all, but i really have no means to take a photo of myself. Is there any other method that you would believe?

I should probably weigh myself again though, due to the fact i have been working in a physical job for about 3 months.

[Anonymous No.6232509]

>>6232484

/Soc/ is thataway, thirsty boy >>>>>>>

Go beg for chubby hotties elsewhere

[Anonymous No.6232529]

>>6232509
>Chubby
>hotties
Pick one
>>6232508
No, fullbody with your fupa covering your dong fatboy, no one wants to see it anyways on a SFW board.
Then a timestamp with your scale from with both arms in the shot to prove you're not pushing up on something to make yourself lighter.

[Anonymous No.6232531]

>>6232418
Alchohol is not metabolized in the same way as food sugars and is not a factor in diabetes onset or insulin respobse

[Anonymous No.6232534]

>>6232529

>oh he thirsty asf

Anything else you like to see in a spank shot, baby?

[Anonymous No.6232544]

>>6232531
Yes, which is why it puts even more stress on the liver because it's having to metabolize so many fucking things at once.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cirrhosis
Alcoholic liver disease (ALD). Alcoholic cirrhosis develops for 10–20% of individuals who drink heavily for a decade or more
-
Non-alcoholic steatohepatitis (NASH). In NASH, fat builds up in the liver and eventually causes scar tissue.
-
Cardiac cirrhosis. Due to chronic right sided heart failure which leads to liver congestion.
There are more.
>>6232534
Hard bodied women only anon.
If you can't squat
You aint much
So much damn fatty denial in this thread.

[Anonymous No.6232596]

>>6229356
>BMI is a retarded way to determine obesity.

It's good enough for your average joe and when applied across the nation because it's quick, easy to calculate, gives a roughly accurate measure and because 9/10 times the person being assessed is not some protein powder guzzling weightlifter or in that tail end of the bell curve.

That some 30+% of Americans are classified as obese by BMI is not horrendously wrong or far out at all.

[Anonymous No.6232608]

>>6232544
I'm 300lbs.

I squat 365 for fun.

You?

[Anonymous No.6232624]

>>6232544
>Hard bodied women only anon.
That is the gayest thing I've read on here for a while.

[Anonymous No.6232626]

>>6232608

[Anonymous No.6232636]

>>6232608
Bro you're a weak fatty, 300 lbs lifting 365 is a shit thing to brag about.

[Anonymous No.6232640]

>>6232626

You mad bro?

>Ohhemad.jpg

Kek

[Anonymous No.6232656]

>>6232640

Only if you have the gall not to purchase two tickets for yourself.

[Anonymous No.6232692]

>>6232402
No, they don't.

These fatties eat 2000kcal at a sitting, don't move around at all, then wonder why their waistlines are expanding.

Sure, lots of people with some form of hypothyroidism overeat and get fat, but their hypothyroidism is still no excuse. Learn to eat less. If your body needs less fuel than others, don't give it more than it can handle. It's pretty goddamned fucking simple.

>>6232499
Eh, it causes other problems beyond just low BMR. I might live a while, but I seriously doubt I'll age into the triple digits.

[Anonymous No.6232795]

>>6232640
Not even the same person as >>6232544 btw, two separate people.
Also>>6232624
What, are you telling me you date women who don't at least have a 4 pack?

[Anonymous No.6233355]

>>6232624
Americunt detected

[Anonymous No.6233376]

>>6232692
>Learn to eat less.
correct
>It's pretty goddamned fucking simple.
incorrect

Food is necessary for life, and junk food in particular is addictive. And breaking the addiction is difficult when junk food is cheap, plentiful, relentlessly advertised, and a major part of social events.

[Anonymous No.6233382]

>>6233355
Oh dear lord...

[Anonymous No.6233417]

>thinking squatting 120% of your body weight is impressive at all

I know this fatty isn't even a real person but seriously stop

[Anonymous No.6233429]

>>6233355
>Biscuit
>American

[Anonymous No.6233499]

>>6229965
DFC
F
C

[Anonymous No.6233515]

>>6233376
[sarcasm]Yes, that's right. It's always someone or something else's fault that you're a fat sack of shit.

Yup.[/sarcasm]

No.

You've succeeded only in proving that I, a person with a genuine health condition that causes abnormally low BMR, am better than fat sacks of shit who lack self control, be they with hypothyroidism or otherwise.

No matter how you cut it, their obesity is 100% their own fat fault.

[Anonymous No.6233588]

>>6225788
Worse kind of fats, no tits and ass but a giant stomach

[Anonymous No.6233805]

>>6225788
They should do that every day for an hour and they wouldn't be fat anymore

[Anonymous No.6233816]

>>6233429
>Vomit candy
>Not American

[Anonymous No.6233981]

>>6226018
Its still a self control thing. Are some people luckier than others? Sure. But you can't just pretend you're not fat and not do anything about it.

[Anonymous No.6234025]

>>6233355
>Melting nutella

please tell me this retard don't keep it in the fridge please

[Anonymous No.6234029]

>>6225788
>>>/fit/

[Anonymous No.6234043]

>>6232608
>>Not knowing that means you eat over 5k calories daily
>>MFW we all know why you're 300lbs now
>>MFW yeah that sounds about right for a guy at 300lbs

repping 1.2x bw squats isnt impressive. thats like me saying i rep 200lbs for fun.

[Anonymous No.6234193]

>>6234043

yeah but know who doesn't squat 365 and never will no matter how much they weigh?

>you

[Anonymous No.6234225]

>>6232636

Did you miss the part where i said I was fat??!??

[Anonymous No.6234227]

why isnt being a skinny little shit also looked down upon like fatasses?

[Anonymous No.6234232]

>>6234193
365 is nothing. Atm i can do 335 and i weigh 176 lbs. Just gotta wait a few weeks or so.

[Anonymous No.6234255]

>>6234227
why would it?

[Anonymous No.6234311]

>>6234227
They don't cost the american health system 526 billion annually.
They have self control
They don't smell
They can probably get up a flight of stairs without going out of breath.

[Anonymous No.6234480]

>>6234311
Lol, that shut him the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.6234591]

>>6234311
Being skinny as fuck doesn't equal healthy and skeletons can still smell like they shit their pants, numnuts

[Anonymous No.6234616]

>>6234591
Tell me once where I said healthy faggot.
>They don't cost the american health system 526 billion annually.
>They have self control
>They don't smell
>They can probably get up a flight of stairs without going out of breath.

[Anonymous No.6234643]

>>6226685
I'm a fatty and largely agree with this. While it is very difficult for a number of reasons (some of which are genetic) for obese people to lose weight and keep it off, and it would be nice if people could understand that, it doesn't make this "healthy at any size" bullshit true.

People who aren't going to respect how difficult it is aren't going to believe this idiotic propaganda. Fat acceptance fails to help fat people, and actively harms some by encouraging them to not even try to lose weight. They took a good idea "hey maybe fat people shouldn't be treated like shit" and ran it into the ground transforming it into a harmful idea "there is nothing wrong with fat people and suggesting that there is means you're a bigot."

[Anonymous No.6234668]

>>6234311
>>6234616
Enjoy wasting away from neurological diseases in your old age, and costing just as much as fatty in the end. If you think Alzheimer's babysitters and dementia-proof housing and nursing staff are cheap, you are very, very mistaken.

[Anonymous No.6234686]

>>6234668

Even if we want to say skinny people and fat people are equally unhealthy (which is untrue if only for the fact that certain cancers are closely linked to body fat), atleast skinny people consume less resources

[Anonymous No.6234723]

>>6234686
I read this fucking hilarious article earlier where a guy explained that as someone who worked in admissions for the graduate students at a school, that he wouldn't accept obese applicants because he thought they couldn't handle the self control needed to sit down and write your thesis because they didn't have the self control to put down the food.

[Anonymous No.6234783]

>>6234686
I should be fewer bothered by your poor word choice. It would make me greater happy were I to adopt a laissez faire attitude about it.

[Anonymous No.6235019]

>>6226098
http://stronglifts.com/

Happy lifting, brother

Sincerely

A former fatty

[Anonymous No.6236674]

>>6229807
You don't eat enough its physics mate. When i was fat i could put away breakfeast lunch and dinner with snacks. I could eat a large pizza with sides after eating earliar in the day and then eat fine the next day.

These days i don't snack unless ive only eaten 1/1.5 meals a day and if i get a pizza i cant finish it easily ill save some, and if i did ill be full and basically eat little the next day.

See the thing is with fat fucks compared to humans is they can just eat and eat. What you consider eating alot is just breakfeast to some hambeast. I eat just over half of what i used to and i'm more active now, what i consider "eating lots" is still less than my old norm. ( i wasn't huge either think 5'10-11 and about 200lbs) (about 160 lbs thesedays)

[Anonymous No.6236685]

>>6226098
You really should commit suicide. I don't know why the government doesn't put people like you down tbh. It's so cruel.