/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.6216792]

Is there any cocktail that can even compare to an old fashioned? They've been around for 200+ years and still have yet to be surpassed.

[Anonymous No.6216794]

>>6216792
no.

[Anonymous No.6216808]

Frozen lime margarita, the undisputed GOAT.

[Anonymous No.6216811]

> cocktails

[Anonymous No.6216821]

>>6216792
I used to make these all the time. I didn't have a lot of disposable income, but it was just enough to try new foods and drinks. When you're poor, eating and drinking becomes your primary source of entertainment. It did for me, anyways.

I'd get a handle of Evan Williams 1783, bottle of Sprite (sue me), Angostura bitters, bag of lemons, and a jar of maraschino cherries. It'd last me two weeks just in time to afford another batch when I got paid.

Made my evenings extremely enjoyable. I was roasting a chicken twice a week at the time. Miss those days.

[Anonymous No.6216836]

>>6216792
you see the thing is im shy.
the old fashion can be made among friends in private or ordered in a public place without feeling too girly. its also goddamn deliicous.

[Anonymous No.6216842]

>>6216792
Cocktails exist to disguise poor quality liquor. Enjoy your 3rd rate whiskey, OP-

[Anonymous No.6216862]

>>6216842

>implying

I once made one with a bottle of 21-year Balvenie. Shit was out of this world.

[Anonymous No.6216864]

>>6216821
when was "used to"? 1783 is a really really new bottling

[Anonymous No.6216867]

>>6216811
>cock
/thread

[Anonymous No.6216870]

>>6216842
Well Old-Fashioneds are fine by me.

[Anonymous No.6216874]

>>6216792
>i'll have an old fashioned

[Anonymous No.6216876]

>>6216874
pic related

[Anonymous No.6216877]

>>6216842
>seasonings are there to mask poor quality food

Thus is your retardation

[Anonymous No.6216882]

>>6216792
>cocktails

either you're are a girl, or gay

[Anonymous No.6216884]

>>6216882
ron swanson pls

[Anonymous No.6216889]

>>6216864
It was in 2008.

[Anonymous No.6216916]

>>6216877

Not all good ingredients are meant to be enjoyed on their own. All good whiskeys are.

[Anonymous No.6216918]

>>6216792

You sound like a fedora tipping faggot.

[Anonymous No.6217103]

>>6216792
Colorado Bulldog.

Dat coffee liquor.

[Anonymous No.6217200]

If I have to make a mixed drink
I'd probably have ice with a blended scotch
moscow mule
dirty gin martini
a shot of rum in a beer
but I honestly have downloaded some killer pdfs of famous cocktail books
sorry wrong computer currently so I can't be bothered to list the titles

[Anonymous No.6217217]

>>6216792

I do love a good old fashioned. Rye manhattans or sazeracs are also fine drinks.

[syn !!5auGoPfbzhy No.6217220]

>>6216792

[Anonymous No.6217294]

>>6217200
You should do /ck/ a solid and upload them to Mega or something.

[Anonymous No.6217330]

>>6216792
a well made Gin and Tonic can't be beat

[Anonymous No.6217346]

>>6216792
>Is there any cocktail that can even compare to an old fashioned?
A neat gin martini made with old tom.

[Anonymous No.6217359]

I don't drink any more but a Rusty Nail is, imo, the GOAT alcoholic beverage.

[Anonymous No.6217392]

>>6216882

[Anonymous No.6217396]

>>6217359
this
rustu nail is god tier

[Anonymous No.6217399]

>>6216882
You see this, flyovers? This is why, in the thread about american food regions, you were getting so much disrespect.

[Anonymous No.6217402]

>200 years

wat

no, it has not been around for that long.

[Anonymous No.6217406]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IBA_official_cocktails

[Anonymous No.6217409]

>>6217402

Dates back to at least 1806.

>The first documented definition of the word "cocktail" was in response to a reader's letter asking to define the word in the May 6, 1806, issue of The Balance and Columbian Repository in Hudson, New York. In the May 13, 1806, issue, the paper's editor wrote that it was a potent concoction of spirits, bitters, water, and sugar

[Anonymous No.6217412]

>>6217409
But that's the invention of the cocktail, not a traditional old fashioned.

[Anonymous No.6217416]

>>6217412
Same guy. I'm probably wrong, but fuck it. I still love the drink regardless.

[Anonymous No.6217417]

>>6217412
>traditional old fashioned

>spirits, bitters, water, and sugar

What the fuck do you think an old fashioned is?

[Anonymous No.6217418]

Stop kidding will you and make us some drinks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i415QwSj0Og

[Anonymous No.6217420]

>>6217417
I meant when it was being referred as a proper noun.

I already admitted that I'm probably wrong.

[Anonymous No.6217422]

>>6216882
>being this insecure

[Anonymous No.6217423]

>>6216882
It's a careful social balance anon. It's perfectly socially acceptable and downright manly to order conservative things like gin and tonics, whiskey sours, and old fashioneds (thanks Don).

But the second you order a multi-colored tropical beverage made with coconut rum in a sugar-rimmed glass topped with pineapple and a tiny umbrella that looks like it was literally stirred with the barkeep's cock is the second you've declared you like to take it up the butt.

[Anonymous No.6217438]

>>6217423
I don't know about you, but I don't want to fuck with a guy that's over 6 foot and looks like he can bench a car. I especially don't want to fuck with the same guy drinking a fruity cocktail.

[Anonymous No.6217445]

>>6217423
>.gif
>doesn't move

every time

[Anonymous No.6217513]

>>6216792

the manhattan is a superior cocktail

[Anonymous No.6217524]

>>6217445

[Anonymous No.6217550]

>>6217359
Would you like a little alcohol with your ice there, buddy?

[Anonymous No.6217555]

>>6217423
Your Grandpa drank this stuff when it was all new and exotic back in the Tiki days. He'd think you're the one taking it up the butt for being this uptight over fruit drinks.

[Anonymous No.6217565]

>>6217555
My grandpa on my dad's side didn't drink anything except an occasional Dos Equis dark on special occasions because his father died from drinking too much.

My other grandfather was irish and he and my grandma could empty a entire bar's worth a whisky and still keep standing. The most colorful cocktail I ever saw him drink was a cape codder.

So, nah, weird tiki grandpas can fuck right off with their pro-frufru drink propaganda. Men not named David Bowie have no leeway and should keep it simple to avoid looking queer.

[Anonymous No.6217575]

Poasting the essential selection from PIIYM

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGAuqzlZmzw

[Anonymous No.6217585]

>>6217346
>neat martini
I like how you namedrop old tom gin after revealing that you have no fucking idea what you're talking about

[Anonymous No.6217589]

>>6217575

>Hypnotiq
>Kraken Rum
>Grand "mariner'
>namasensei

>essential

[Anonymous No.6217593]

>>6217589
Kanpai

YOU BITCH

[Anonymous No.6217594]

>>6216792
I think you mean cucktails

Vodcran if you have a place that uses actual cranberry juice and not ocean spray or something

[Anonymous No.6217606]

>>6217594
>unsweetened cranberry juice with a dry spirit base

[Anonymous No.6217623]

>>6217594
>my mouth when thinking about drinking straight cranberry juice and vodka

[Anonymous No.6217628]

>>6217565
>being a man
>caring what someone thinks about you
Pick one.

[Anonymous No.6217629]

>>6217623
>>6217606
>disliking dry red wine

[Anonymous No.6217645]

>>6217628
>being a man
>not maintaining some general etiquette in public settings

The reason drinking fru-fru coktails are frowned upon by other men aside from looking like they should drunk on a tropical island full of tranny prostitutes is because they are too flashy and lack general refinement. Women can get away with drinking such things because it's sometimes good for them to be associated with 'flashy,' men generally not so much unless they are ok with possibly being branded a faerie by the rest of the bar.

It's the same rule of thumb that applies with Hawaiian shirts. Are you a big fat party animal, anon?

[Anonymous No.6217657]

>claiming to have taste
>not drinking whiskies straight

Where am I?

[Anonymous No.6217667]

>>6217657

This just in. You can not only enjoy eating raw high-quality apples, but you can also juice them or mix them in stuff to make tasty concoctions.

And you can booze that juice right up, too.

Who the fuck doesn't like whiskey sours or gin and tonics... is there anyone who actually enjoys drinking straight gin that's not a homeless bum with a pint of gordons?

[Anonymous No.6217671]

>>6217409
>>6217417

>rum, gin, or brandy, significant water, bitters, and sugar

Yeah, because an Old Fashioned is made with gin. Also, 'significant water'. The idea of the specific Old Fashioned recipe (as opposed to a cocktail made in an old fashioned way) being whiskey, sugar, and bitters comes from later in the 19th century.

[Anonymous No.6217676]

Do Decanters do anything or are they for show?

[Anonymous No.6217682]

>>6217667
>is there anyone who actually enjoys drinking straight gin

I didn't quote you, I typed that out manually to reassure myself that I wasn't having an acid flashback.

Good gin is delicious. Are you 13? Do you also hate good IPAs?

[Anonymous No.6217693]

>>6217682
>ipa
Lmao that shit suxks.

[Anonymous No.6217704]

>>6217682
IPA's are generally fine, except for some from brewers catering to drinkers whose tastebuds are completely dead by amping up the hops ratio to make them taste like pure acrid dish soap. Shit's undrinkable.

Straight gin tastes like water from the Christmas tree stand in January. I enjoy juniper, but not when its shitting pine cones down my throat.

[Anonymous No.6217707]

>>6217693
Oh, but you like gin? You hypocritical bleeding tory.

[Anonymous No.6217713]

>>6217200
>>6217294
seconded

[Anonymous No.6217718]

>>6217575
>1:17:30

[Anonymous No.6217862]

>>6217676

Depends what you're decanting. If you're dealing with a particularly old red wine or port, then decanting allows the sediments to separate and the wine to breathe. I have some '77 port which tastes like rough crap out of the bottle, and like smooth nectar after a day of being decanted. For most other things it doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.6218292]

>>6217671

>rum, gin, or brandy

When somebody in early 1800's USA refers to "spirits", they're almost certainly talking about a whiskey, because that's what was domestically produced. You'd have imported rum from the Caribbean, but that would just be called "rum" and not "spirits". Anything else from Europe would be far too expensive for any but the very rich.

[Anonymous No.6218444]

>>6217667
Whisky is the patrician gentlesir's dram. Dilution with lesser fluids is tantamount to diluting my gentleness

[Anonymous No.6218465]

>>6218444

[Anonymous No.6218524]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fine_Art_of_Mixing_Drinks

what a waste of alcohol though when you put simple syrup in
but I guess this is proof that there have always been these type of "men"
it's not a new thing is what I'm saying

[Anonymous No.6218554]

>>6216862
>Balvenie
>old fashioned
>chicken
>lamb stew
"I once made delicious lamb stew out of chicken. shit was out of this world"

>implying that making an old fashioned out of a speyside single malt is even possible.

[Anonymous No.6218678]

>>6217217
>sazeracs
This guy wins

[Anonymous No.6218843]

>>6216792
I've always found Old-Fashoneds to be too sweet. Personally, I like the classic martini and believe it to be the GOAT mixed drink.
It has a nice balance between herbal flavors and a bright citrusy aroma. Plus, I don't have to adulterate fine spirits because London dry gin is meant to be mixed.

Here's what I'm currently drinking:

3 parts London dry gin (Bombay, just regular Bombay, not Sapphire...it was on sale)
1 part dry vermouth (Noilly Prat Extra Dry)
1 dash orange bitters (Regan's)

stir in your ice-filled tin, strain into a pre-chilled glass, and garnish with a lemon peel (and be sure to peel the lemon over the glass so you can smell the lemon oils on the surface of the drink.)

What you get is icy cold and a beautiful pale straw gold color. All of the gin's Pine-Sol astringency is gone and you can enjoy the nice, herbal balance.

>inb4 oh god, too much vermouth. A thread can get derailed way too easily by arguing over which gin to use with which vermouth and at what ratios

>inb4 no olive. I don't like the olive in a martini. firstly, because the traditional garnish is a lemon peel; secondly, because gin and vermouth are kind of heavy flavors and a brine-soaked olive is also a heavy flavor, while lemon is light and contrasts the heaviness.

[Anonymous No.6218909]

>>6218843
>martini
>mixed drink

>look it up
>realize it's actually a cocktail in the US

Pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.6218943]

>>6218909
>take a glass of gin and gently whisper "vermouth" over it, then nod in the general direction of france/italy

[Anonymous No.6218950]

>>6218943
lold at gif
well played whoever made that

[Anonymous No.6218995]

>>6218909
Is the term cocktail or mixed drink? I don't know if it's a cocktail or just a mixed drink, so I took the safe route. It's definitely a mixed drink.

I've also had too many of them this early in the afternoon.

[Anonymous No.6219014]

>>6218995
mixed drink does not specifically contain alcohol.
cocktail has alcohol.
originally it was alcohol and bitters, but now bitters are not necessary.

[Anonymous No.6219321]

I generally go for whiskey sours or gin and tonics.

>>6217667
I like gin.

[Anonymous No.6219323]

Mojito > everything else

[Anonymous No.6219454]

>>6217103
I wanted to like this and it tastes decent but the idea of Cola and milk grosses me out.

[Anonymous No.6219482]

>>6217423
And yet it gets you just as drunk as the triple IPA's everyone else is choking down, but it actually tastes delicious.

>lol! Look at that faggot! He's ENJOYING his drink!

[Anonymous No.6219483]

>>6218843
This is pretty much the perfect martini, though I would personally prefer Broker's gin and Dolin vermouth.

Well done and cheers.

[Anonymous No.6219500]

>>6218943
I never understood how the standard single drop of vermouth does anything

I'm a Manhattan man myself. Brings out the best flavor of the whiskey

[Anonymous No.6219508]

>>6217565
Who are you trying so hard to impress? Who gives a shit. Obviously if youre at a beer and vodka bar/club trying to take a girl home you don't order a strawberry daiquiri with an umbrella. If youre with friends or by yourself who cares? If you only exclusively drink the sweetest non-alcohol-tasting drinks you can find people will think you can't handle alcohol, thats the only stigma. Drink a beer and then have a Zombie who cares.

[Anonymous No.6219527]

>>6219500
He was being sarcastic, hence the fedora'ing.

the "use no vermouth" thing is a joke that people forgot is a joke. Gin is much higher proof than vermouth. The less vermouth you use, the more gin you use and, thus, more alcohol you get in your drink.

Somewhere along the line people got this idea that vermouth made you an amateurish, less discerning drinker.

This, by the way, is partially how the vodka martini became popular: when using less and less vermouth, a "martini" simply became a glass of cold gin, which is not particularly pleasant when drunk straight. Vodka, however, having much less of a 'powerful' flavor, is easier to drink straight from a glass that has had a vermouth rinse.

[Anonymous No.6219542]

>>6216808
they are pretty good. gotta be fresh juice though.

[Anonymous No.6219543]

>>6219482

If you are a dude and want to drink cosmos or rainbow colored passion fruit tiki drinks at a nice bar, that's your prerogative.

Just don't pretend other people aren't going to be making mental notes about which team you play for despite your protests otherwise. It's a social setting and people are hardwired for certain associations-- there's a reason the drinks you like are always the special during ladies night.


Also, most of those drinks were invented strictly to mask the alcohol for people who hate the taste. There's a fine line between enhancing the flavor of alcohol with a cocktail and then drowning cheap, nasty flavored booze in a pineapple and sugar diabetes laced abomination.

[Anonymous No.6219545]

>>6219482
I don't talk shit about people that only drink cocktail but you're an idiot. People drink IPA's because they taste good to them. I know it might be hard for you to grasp but people have different tastes than you. Just because you think it's gross doesn't mean it is. I'd rather drink some heavily peated scotch and a double-triple-whatever IPA than have my teeth ache from some cloying mix drink.

[Anonymous No.6219560]

>>6219545
>People drink IPA's because they taste good to them.

Some do, some don't. Some like to drink the heaviest beer they can find because they think it makes them look manlier. They are easy to spot, though: before drinking their beer, they will give you a long-ass speech about whatever 18th century monastery invented this style and all the style's various interpretations.

Then they will take a sip, grimace like they just swallowed a bug, and declare the beer to be great.

[Anonymous No.6219576]

>>6219500
The Manhattan uses sweet vermouth, a martini usually uses dry. I was taught to put a full shot of vermouth in the ice, swirl it, and dump it out. The vermouth on the ice is supposed to be enough.

[Anonymous No.6219577]

>>6219508
>who are you trying to impress
>except for everyone else at the bar
>and women

I guess you answered it for me. And yes, its fine to drink fru fru drinks in the company of a few good friends-- both my grandps probably drank (or didn't) what they did out of habit.

The point here is what you'd be ok with being seen drinking at a decent sized bar. You wouldn't willingly walk into a crowded McDonalds and scarf down a happy meal in front of everyone, would you?

[Anonymous No.6219621]

>>6219545
>Mad

lol you realize that's essentially what my post was about, right? Some people like cocktails and tropical drinks, others like IPA's and bitter drinks. And there's people who don't like IPA's but choke them down because that's what's in. But really, the people that get all pissed off about a guy drinking a "girly" drink in a bar because they feel the need to uphold some manly image are ridiculous. Who gives a shit, let's all just get drunk.

[Anonymous No.6219727]

>>6219543
If you're at a tiki bar and you don't get a tiki drink, aren't YOU the weirdo?

Everyone's having a good time enjoying a Mai Tai or a Fog Cutter or whatever and you're the asshole with a scotch on the rocks calling everyone a fag for drinking a fruity drink.

Generally, it's a good rule to take a look around and realize that if everyone looks like they're having a good time and you're not, you're the one with the problem.

[Anonymous No.6219735]

>>6219621
>The people that get all pissed off about a boy playing with barbies at school because they feel the need to uphold some sort of boyish image are ridiculous.

Sorry, your ideals aren't going to suddenly change long-standing associations determined by decades of bar culture. There are girly drinks-- and people will label you for drinking them as a dude. Period.

Anyway, part of the enjoyment many people derive from drinking at a bar is to be able to get sloshed, but still keep their wits about them. It's the true rite of passage into becoming a alcoholic that people earnestly respect and secretly admire. It's something that's sadly disappearing from society because a growing number of people want to stigmatize and deny the existence of functional alcoholics-- yet these people made up a significant lump of white-collar society up until the 70s and drank more highballs at work than modern people drink cups of coffee, and were 10x more productive (and honest): http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/gene-weingarten-an-old-cuss/2015/01/23/cb3cd7f4-9fe6-11e4-903f-9f2faf7cd9fe_story.html

[Anonymous No.6219742]

>>6217667
>is there anyone who actually enjoys drinking straight gin that's not a homeless bum with a pint of gordons?
Meh, I was on the gin tonic trip for a while, then i just started using less and less tonic and better gin, now I actually enjoy pure gin on the rocks more than the cocktail.

But I still love whiskey sour just as much as pure whiskey.

But I'll never believe anybody who is not an alcoholic enjoys pure vodka. Isn't the definiton of quality vodka just ethanol and water? I like salty food, but drinking saltwater seems weird

[Anonymous No.6219750]

>>6219482
>IPAs
Not really my favorite. I don't mind hops, but they often go crazy with 'em.

[Anonymous No.6219754]

>>6219727

>If you're at a tiki bar

Of course, that would be the one exception that I didn't mention because I think it was obvious the discussion was centered on the average, mid-range bar. But honestly, where else would you even consider going to a tiki bar outside of that one time you vacationed in Hawaii. Shit's fucking corny as hell.

[Anonymous No.6219795]

>>6219742
The juniper is just overwhelming for me, even when I put it on ice. I think gin is essentially juniper flavored vodka, anyhow-- which is a direct improvement from drinking something that tastes like hairspray.

[Anonymous No.6219820]

>>6219754
>Shit's fucking corny as hell.
That's the whole point of a tiki bar. You wear a ridiculous aloha shirt, eat "Polynesian food" like crab rangoons and enjoy the fun of early 50's American kitsch.

Of course, if you're at a "beer or jack-and-coke" sports bar and you order a scorpion bowl, that's kind of silly, but I'm more likely to assume the guy's some kind of idiot rather than a fag.

You're just as likely to see a guy in a pink polo with frosted tips drinking a Bud Light or a Cosmopolitan.

[Hi everyone I'm from flyover l(...) !!V4ZVB3ex1JV No.6219829]

>>6219820
>crab rangoon
Newfangled hipster shit, I have never heard of that. I bet they serve it with avocados.

[Anonymous No.6219833]

>>6219483
technically a perfect martini is equal parts sweet and dry vermouth
what
>>6218843 made is not a martini
martini are not supposed to have bitters
I like that you used gin though
add one of those little pickled onions and you got a gibson
add one of those black olives and you got a buckeye

[Anonymous No.6219843]

>>6219833
>martini are not supposed to have bitters

[Anonymous No.6219860]

>>6218943
is that mark twain?
I can't remember
_
I honestly think the way to do is:
put the ice in your chilled mixing cup
throw some vermouth in there
mix it like a demon
strain out the vermouth
the perfect amount of vermouth will have frozen and stuck to the ice
now dump your gin in the newly accented ice and stir away
strain and add a splash of the liquid from the olive jar because you're dirty like that
_
truly, too much vermouth ruins the drink
I have found this to be my ideal ratio-somehow it doesn't taste like straight gin, but you can't taste the vermouth

[RoseBot !!EAVp3wibgC6 No.6219870]

I read about this drink in a cheesy good girl gone teen novel and I liked the descriptions of liquor soaked fruit.
Unfortunately as an adult sangria fruit is awful and now I'm afraid to waste 12 on a poop drink.

[Anonymous No.6219873]

>>6219860
is exactly the kind of guy >>6219527 is talking about. It's a little comforting to know that the old faggotries never really go away.

[Anonymous No.6219874]

>>6219576
aw I should have read the whole thread before posting>>6219860

[Anonymous No.6219882]

>>6219870
jungle juice is so nostalgic of my days in late high school when I got to go to older college friend's frat parties
specifically somewhere in San Diego where you go from house to house and everyone has their own jungle juice recipe like it's pad thai stands in Thailand

[Anonymous No.6219889]

>>6219820
>pink polo with frosted tips

Did we travel back in time to 2002 when this was a thing gay and straight people still did this and wore puka shell necklaces?

Maybe someone should invest in a late nineties/early 2000s themed bar where this is the standard attire so men can unironically order Cosmos, Zima and Mike's Hard Lemonade.

[Anonymous No.6219896]

>>6219833
Well, what >>6218843 is, in fact a martini. The use of orange bitters fell out of fashion during Prohibition because all the companies that made them went under except Angostura.

Fortunately a lot of companies are coming back to make those rarer ingredients, so a lot of the real recipes of the classics can be enjoyed again.

[Anonymous No.6219899]

Cocktails? More like CUCKtails.

Drink your booze straight up, or go look for a big buck to plow your wife like the beta male you are.

[Anonymous No.6219902]

>>6219882
not it's
they* are I meant :/

[Anonymous No.6219913]

>>6219873
I looked it up:
According to Noël Coward, "A perfect martini should be made by filling a glass with gin, then waving it in the general direction of Italy", Italy being a major producer of vermouth.[7
>>6219843
pic related

[Anonymous No.6219924]

How do you guys feel about cuba libres? With real havana club rum, of course.

[Anonymous No.6219929]

>>6219913
>quoting a noted homosexual.
you dun goofed.

[Meat Minimalist !!QlEfxPKY65n No.6219964]

>>6219924

I don't know what "cuba libres" is. Did you mean to ask about Cubas libre, the plural form of the Cuba libre?

If you're not making it with new old stock bottles of Bacardi produced in the original Santiago de Cuba factory, you might as well drink it with Puerto Rican "bacardi" [sic] mixed with warm RC cola. Havana Club? Please be joking. This would not be historically correct, not in the least bit.

[Anonymous No.6219978]

>>6219882
We always called it Yukaflux in Canada. Maybe that's the sound one makes when they spew it all back up at the end of the night. That shit gets you some kind of fucked up.

[Anonymous No.6220000]

>>6219924
>cuba libres

I know no one who refers to a rum and coke as a 'cuba libre' who isn't trying to hide the fact their drinking something that's generally only popular with 16-22 year olds or the primary drink of very picky drinkers with limited palettes.

That's not to say I don't occasionally enjoy a nice rum and coke, but it's kind of a gimme-- something you will always always be able to prepare and order at a bar anywhere in the world. Personally, I've never tasted a difference between better quality rum and captian/bacardi in one since all I usually am getting for taste is the coke and rummy goodness-- but darker rums do give it a little extra bite in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.6220011]

>>6219964
Its a faggot way off saying coke and rum

[Meat Minimalist !!QlEfxPKY65n No.6220015]

>>6220000

I award you 2 points for being superior to the other guy, 2 points for being even more superior by condescending to "occasionally enjoy" the same drink, and 5 points for that amazing get, 11/10 spectacular work

[Anonymous No.6220027]

>>6220015
except
-50 points for incorrect use of "their" while being mean

[Anonymous No.6220037]

>>6220027
It's an informal image board. No one gives a shit about punctuation, spelling or grammar-- or else you would have capitalized and punctuated your shit.

And it's not being mean, it's being upfront and honest. Grow a fucking pair and give me my god damn points back. I had to get quads for that shit.

[Anonymous No.6220050]

>>6219896
that's interesting, I didn't know that.
I've heard of an orange bitter that comes from some orange on an island where the soil was screwed up and the oranges were only good for bitters
maybe it's blue?
supposed to be highly valued I think
_
>>6219929
I'm only quoting him, because I went searching for the author of the quote, I originally thought it was Mark Twain and then looked it up-I don't agree with him
but I like Freddie Mercury you homophobe
>>6219978
This is awesome, yeah Jungle Juice got us all kinds of inebriated

[Anonymous No.6220052]

>>6220037
haha suck my balls I lost them already on another board
capitalizing is one thing
but c'mon man, their and they're is a mistake
not lazyness

[Meat Minimalist !!QlEfxPKY65n No.6220057]

>>6220052
>>6220027

How can you be sperging out this hard over "their" when he actually committed the most egregious /ck/ sin of all:

>palettes

In my book that deserves a ban, but I'm not a mod so I say let him keep his points just this once.

[Anonymous No.6220093]

>>6220050
That would be Curacao. The oranges on the island are too shitty to be eaten, so they made them into liquor instead. On its own it's colourless, but blue dye is often added for tropical drinks.

[Anonymous No.6220115]

>>6216792
Scotch. In a glass.

[Anonymous No.6220146]

>>6220115

But only if it's islay, amirite m'gentlesir?

[Anonymous No.6220185]

Wild Turkey, and a gun.

[Anonymous No.6220205]

>>6219913
you'll cowards don't even dring bitters

[Anonymous No.6220515]

>>6217645
You sound like a very boring individual. Is your entire wardrobe in grayscale?

[Anonymous No.6220542]

>>6219882
>>6219978
Are y'all talking about trash can punch?

[Anonymous No.6220549]

>>6220515

No, there is plenty of color in my wardrobe. Not that colorful grey clothes means shit because we're all boring motherfuckers content in mundane lives when you get down to it. But if you think drinking rainbow fruit cocktails shaken in a vagina is gonna put a sprig in your step and make you look like an interesting and outgoing person to others, you're sadly mistaken. Weird, yes. Interesting, not do much.

[Anonymous No.6222354]

>>6220050
Orange bitters don't really taste orangey because they're made with the peels of seville oranges, among many other ingredients.

In the old days, every cocktail got bitters (it was basically how a cocktail is defined). I've heard the broad rule as "clear spirits get orange bitters and brown spirits get aromatic bitters")

Bitters is kind of like salt in food. If used correctly, it enhances and blends the flavors in the drink. (If you use too much, it's awful)

There are dozens of different kinds available now, all sorts of obsolete things like celery bitters that have like one recipe in existence.

[Anonymous No.6222510]

Negroni

[Anonymous No.6222517]

>>6222510
Or Manhattan hold the cherry, garnish with orange peel

[Anonymous No.6222605]

>>6219742
Vodka is distilled from different things. I like Sobieski Vodka, which is distilled with rye, and also Luksusowa, which is distilled from potatoes. There's a big difference. And yes, you can taste the difference. You don't have to be an alcoholic. If you try a well crafted vodka, it tastes like grain, water, and a tiny alcohol bite.

[Anonymous No.6222653]

>>6217682
>comparing delicious beer to rubbing alcohol
die in a fire, pretentious faggot

[Anonymous No.6222659]

>>6219545
>sweet things hurt my teeth
lrn2 dental hygiene, damn britbong

[Anonymous No.6222855]

>>6222510
who the fuck actually likes these?

[Anonymous No.6222870]

H-Hemingways are manly, r-right?

[Anonymous No.6222892]

>>6222855
I-i-i do. Ah fuck it. Gimme a Bud Light.

[Anonymous No.6223016]

>>6222855
Ya the dryness and bitterness can be startling to a beginner but maybe a year after getting into drinks I went back to it and really enjoyed it.

[Anonymous No.6223022]

>>6217645
>>6220549
Are you suggesting that the only cocktails are mai tais and other ridiculous novelty drinks?

[Anonymous No.6223024]

>>6222870
>H-Hemingways are manly, r-right?
I would say so. But, if your bartender isn't squeezing some grapefruit, it'll be crap. You can be assured Hemingway wasn't in Cuba getting canned bluebird pasteurized bitter grapefruit juice. So, they have their place only in certain occasions/joints.
At home, I love a frozen limeade daiquiri, to which I might add a sweet banana. Also white rum, bleh, always use a aged rum.

[Anonymous No.6223054]

>>6219560
Stupid post, you're quite clearly angsty over an issue that is clearly non-existent to you

[Anonymous No.6223069]

I like bloody marys. Pretty much a salad, so it's ought to be good for you.

[Anonymous No.6223070]

>>6223069
God damn, they are so good. I love when it has a shit load of garnishes.

[Anonymous No.6223101]

>>6217629
>Implying these are the same thing
>Being this new

[Anonymous No.6223136]

>>6223024
>aged rum
>in a daiquiri
More expensive=\= good

You're probably one of those people who goes apeshit over foie added to random food

[Anonymous No.6223221]

>>6223101
>not thinking these plebs would dislike dry reds due to their dislike of the dry cranberry and vodka bite

hurrrrr dryness + red fruit + alcohol

[Anonymous No.6223222]

>>6223136
>I like less flavor in substitute of more flavor

There are some great aged rums for not a lot of money. Zacapa 23 is a favorite of mine in a daiquiri.

[Anonymous No.6223438]

>>6223022
I think anon was being pretty clear that he was putting down overly-complex colorful girly cocktails and tiki beverages like you mentioned. Most people I know like that are fine with classics and simple mixtures.

[Anonymous No.6223458]

>>6223221
>even trying to compare a run-of-the-mill cocktail like a cape codder with dryer red wines

>thinking the tannins in unsweetened cranberry juice, which are butt-puckering levels of tart upon the astringent qualities, are the same as the tannins found in red wine that mature from the barrel aging process

No anon, you appear to be the real pleb here. You can keep your low-tier vodka cocktails.

[Anonymous No.6223495]

>>6216792
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxRzzm-mjCE

master race.

[Anonymous No.6223511]

>>6216808
>frozen
>not on the rocks
>liking overly watered down trash

you probably drink sauza, too.

[Anonymous No.6223532]

>>6223495
If nothing else I need to buy some decent rum now to make one of those but I don't have the money.

INTO THE BOOKMARKS IT GOES.

>>6220542
Jungle juice, trash-can punch, cooler fluid, Yukaflux, it's all the same shit.

[Anonymous No.6223628]

>>6216876
>Old fashioned
>Fedora
Pick one
It's literally the simplest cocktail you can make.
Whiskey, Sugar, and Bitters. That's it.

[Anonymous No.6223632]

>>6216916
That's right.
Which is why the tasters at Scottish distilleries mix their whiskey with a touch of water. Because they're just not good whiskey.
Well, that and you're a complete retard.

[Anonymous No.6223639]

>>6217330
That requires a tonic water made without HFCS, which is just about unobtainium in America.
HFCS and gin do not play well together.

[Anonymous No.6223641]

>>6217346
>neat martini
Confirmed for tryhard with no idea

[Anonymous No.6223647]

>>6217399
Confirmed for faggot

[Anonymous No.6223658]

>>6217412
>doesn't compare the recipes
They're the fucking same.
The cocktail now called the old fashioned is older than its name.

[Anonymous No.6223665]

>>6216867
>Not cuck

[Anonymous No.6223678]

>>6217423
No
The reason guys drink beer and not fruity drinks while going out, yet the girls do, is that the beer is less alcoholic, and he'll be the one driving home.
You'd know this if you were both a) dating, and
b) able to drive,
And are thus confirmed as not an adult in modern society.

When a man isn't driving, he's free to drink whatever he wants to.

[Anonymous No.6223689]

>>6223222
>There are some great aged rums for not a lot of money

And there are some great light rums for not a lot of money. And there are some great light rums that cost something similar to Zacapa 23. And there are some light rums that have been out of production for a long time and for which I'd gladly pay more than I'd pay for Zacapa 23. But they are light rums. Light rums and aged rums are different ingredients. Like apricots vs dried apricots. Zacapa 23 is not a light rum, and it does not taste anything like a light rum. Please do not confuse aged rum for an "improved version" of light rum. This is what plebs do.

I would recommend you come up with an alternate name for your special snowflake drink. I'm sure it tastes good. As long as you know it's not an actual daiquiri, and you accept it, people won't try to correct you.

[Anonymous No.6223702]

>>6223678
>drinking at all before driving a murdercage
>adult in modern society

Pick one, murdercager.

[Anonymous No.6223890]

>>6218909
The older martini recipes used to have bitters in them, hence the cocktail designation.

The old recipes are actually pretty tasty when you can get the proper ingredients. They taste nothing like the martinis of today, but tasty nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.6223974]

>>6223689
Never said it was anything like light rum or an improved version I just prefer it. It's still a daiquiri, stay mad sperglord.

[Anonymous No.6224250]

>>6223702
>not knowing there is a level of alcoholic consumption that does not appreciably impact conduct or reflexes
Know how I know you're either an idiot or 14?
Normal people are in fact able to drink without binging on a whole bottle of vodka in a single sitting.

[Anonymous No.6224260]

>>6222855
Adults, and people who can afford liquor that isn't complete shit.

[Anonymous No.6224264]

>>6224250
>but I only had a few beers officer
Things murderers say

[Anonymous No.6224295]

>>6224264
Everybody's gotta die sometime

[Anonymous No.6224303]

>>6223628
I think what he's saying is that old fashioneds are for older people or young people who want to look sophisticated(ie fedora wearers) as it's not a common drink for the younger crowd.

[Anonymous No.6224417]

>>6217217
>>6218678

These guys have it right. These are god-tier drinks.

[Anonymous No.6224439]

>>6224303
If old fashioneds are euphedoric and Cuba libres are gb2kidkidkid, what cocktails are /ck/-approved?

[Anonymous No.6224609]

>>6223678

What fucking shithole do you come from that you can't walk home or take a taxi after a good night out? Also, you are probably one creepy fuck if you buy into the frat-fuck line of thinking.

>intentionally doesn't get drunk so he can drive hammered faggots home to take advantage of them.

also

>admitting he is a 2 beer queer who can't hold his liquor by willingly drinking nasty piss

>has no understanding of bar etiquette outside shitty college dives and sports bars

You're just as likely to get weird looks for drinking cheap piss beer in a decent bar as you are fru fru cocktails as a man.

[Anonymous No.6224635]

>>6223024
Honestly, most of the grapefruits you get at store lack in flavor while something from Tropicana tastes way better.

[Anonymous No.6224654]

>>6224439
Dunno, but anyone who knocks another person's cocktail is a dick. If you like it, drink it, and fuck the rest. No matter, I always drink gin and tonic. Simple. Crisp. Refreshing. Either that or 2 fingers of bourbon, served neat.

[Anonymous No.6224663]

>>6224439
There's nothing you can't dismiss with either "le tip man :v)" or "sissy drink for faggets." Just drink whatever you want and stop caring what children on a Laotian oekaki board say.

[Anonymous No.6224679]

>>6224439
>Cuba libres

Please stop calling rum and cokes that. It's pretentious as hell-- no one fucking calls them that. Those are only kiddy tier if it's the only thing you ever order-- otherwise it's a good cheap go-to drink where ever you go.

Anyway, old fashioneds are not fedora tier despite some anons shitposts--it's just as much a standard as a gin and tonic or a Manhattan. The problem lies with the people our age who needlessly class these beverages up because typical American drinking culture degenerated into a cesspool of pilsner beer and shitty fru fru drinks in the 70s and 80s and is now trying to find its legs again by going back to these classics. The one's leading this trend, though, are a bunch of insufferable hipster twats who think they are showing off how 'classy' they are by ordering shit they saw Don drink on Mad Men.

My general rule of thumb for choosing cocktails (and this is really just up to personal preference as you should be drinking what you enjoy the most) is that the should be relatively simple to make but difficult to perfect-- and the booze never should take a backseat or be washed away by the rest of the ingredients. Some NYC bartenders hopped aboard this trend of taking classics and replacing their ingredients with shit I can't even pronounce from third world countries I never knew existed. It's novel, but stupid expensive and I've yet to have one that made me want another because the ingredients always overshadow the booze.

[Anonymous No.6224682]

>>6224654

>gin and tonic

shit tastes like vomit, I'll never understand you limey fucks

[Anonymous No.6224691]

Captain Handsome. I haven't been to a place that had all the ingredients, so I have to make them at home.

1½ oz Plymouth gin
½ oz creme de violette
½ oz fresh lime juice
¼ oz limoncello
splash of chilled soda water

[Anonymous No.6224723]

>>6224682

Most people will say it tastes like pine needles because gin is literally made with something off a pine tree-- juniper berries.

I've never heard someone say it tasted like vomit, though. I don't even know how someone could come to that conclusion, unless their sense of smell was dead or they grew up constantly being around people that covered vomit with pine-scented sawdust...

[Anonymous No.6224741]

>>6224679
I actually never called them that before, but I love the assmad that it caused and I'm going to call them that from now on. Deal with it.

[Anonymous No.6224743]

>>6224679

If you go to a speakeasy/mixology place and ask for something boozy they're usually pretty good at letting the flavor of the liquor come through. I read the Death and Co. book and these guys are pretty good at what they're doing, despite the pretentiousness.

[Anonymous No.6224767]

bloody caesar > bloody mary
and I'm not even Canadian

[Anonymous No.6224779]

How do you learn to enjoy hard liquor? I like wine just fine. I also really enjoy spicy food, but the burn of liquors just isnt good.

[Anonymous No.6224794]

>>6224743
Most of those old-timey speakeasies and mixology bars are fine-- I'm specifically talking about the super-pretentious ones that popped up in areas like the East Village and Williamsburg that garnish your gin and tonic with fucking nutmeg and grapefruit and then cut it with some sort of vaguely Italian-sounding syrup infused with rosemary as a default... and then charge you $15 for it. These places exist and I've had the misfortune of being dragged into them by friends and coworkers.

[Anonymous No.6224843]

>>6216792
where do you actually order these things?

does every bar make them?

[Anonymous No.6224849]

>>6224779
I don't know. I don't think the burn ever bothered me except when I was drinking like shitty vodka, or something.

You drinking straight liquor, or cocktails? My first drinks were like whiskey sours and I never thought they burned.

[Anonymous No.6224855]

>>6216792
caipirinhas are pretty great, but thats maybe just because i grew up drinking them

[Anonymous No.6224876]

How close is everyone's drink preference to their parents'? I've noticed that my favorites are also my parent's favorites:
Gin and Tonic
Martini
Bloody Mary

[Anonymous No.6224890]

I have been drinking Moscow mules lately. Pretty good
Ginger beer
Vodka
Lime

[Anonymous No.6224953]

>>6224264
>one beer automatically turns you into a murderer!
Grow up kid. Better yet try talking to your mom and dad about -did they get killed by a dunk driver? Really?

Good riddance. Now they'll never know what a failure you've become.

[Anonymous No.6224970]

>>6224953
>things alcoholics say to chase the self loathing away until they can get their next fix of night train

[Anonymous No.6224971]

>>6224439
Who gives a damn. Personally I really like Mojitos and Dark n Stormies. Though I have made it a thing to try every kind of beverage from bitter, sweet, sour, etc.

[Anonymous No.6224976]

>>6224971
>mojitos
The 90s called, they said you forgot your giant cohiba cigar
>dark and stormy
The goslings corporation called, they demanded a royalty for using their name without saying "made with genuine Black Seal Rum"

[Anonymous No.6225003]

>>6224439
>vodka and koolaid
>Colt 45
>steel 211
>four Loko
>arbor mist
>Boone's farm
>thunderbird
>night train
>mad dog 20/20
>olde English
>mickey's
Basically anything that's cheap and accessible to people who are underage.

[Anonymous No.6225012]

>>6224609
>missing the point entirely.
Well done. It must take talent to be that willfully ignorant.

[Anonymous No.6225032]

>>6225012
>he basically described me to the T
>but he missed the point baww

what was the point, daterape mcdivebar?

[Anonymous No.6225040]

>>6225012

>the point

Which is... that you like to take it up the ass willingly after 2 beers?

You're going to have to enlighten me because other than you liking date rape, your lightweightedness, and your really off-base ideas of masculinity and bar culture-- I'm not really seeing one.

[Anonymous No.6225053]

>>6223024
There's also the issue of original intent.
The grapefruits popular today are not the same-either in color or flavor-as the grapefruits that were popular in Hemingway's day.
The older style of grapefruits (the common variety was the "Duncan") were white, had seeds and were noticeably sweeter in flavor from the "ruby red"-and seedless-grapefruits of today.
Thus, a 1940s-era cocktail with grapefruit juice in it will taste different than intended when used with modern red grapefruit juice vs the original white grapefruits.

[Anonymous No.6225057]

>>6223639
>which is just about unobtainium in America.
lol...also true....and also sad.

[Anonymous No.6225060]

>>6223639
>what is whole foods

A cool hipster store that doesn't sell any "normal food", apparently.

[Anonymous No.6225068]

>>6224609
It's called "the rest of the country outside of New York City", maybe you've heard of it. Although given your responses, probably not.
But rest assured, much more people live out here than in your little insular bubble.

[Anonymous No.6225074]

>>6225068

Are you just pretending to be retarded at this point? Or are you really that incompetent that you can't call a fucking cab?

[Anonymous No.6225076]

>>6225074
Calling a cab is a form of weakness. I drive better after a few beers anyway.

I bet you ask women (or as I call them, bitches) for directions when you get lost. I don't get lost. You should.

[Anonymous No.6225094]

>>6225076
Thanks for confirming you're just being retarded.

[Anonymous No.6225096]

>>6224682
The secret to a G&T that doesn't taste like complete ass is in the tonic water.

Look at the ingredients: Most tonic waters in America are sweetened with High Fructose Corn Syrup, which tastes AWFUL when mixed with gin.
Try going to a liquor store to see if you can find a tonic water that's sweetened with real sugar instead. It'll taste MUCH better with the gin, and you'll see what the fuss is about.

[Anonymous No.6225100]

>>6217103
Everything on kahlua's website sounds amazing

[Anonymous No.6225117]

>>6225096
>sweetened tonic water
pussy

[Anonymous No.6225125]

>>6225040
>Trying this hard
The only one who gives a fuck is you.

Also,
>all I can do is call other people faggots!
Projecting much?

[Anonymous No.6225134]

>>6225117
Don't blame me, blame the people who originally formulated the tonic water. They're the ones who put the sugar in the original recipes.

[Anonymous No.6225156]

>>6217103
My stomach absolutely can not handle creamy/milky cocktails or any cream liqueurs. One is fine, but any more and it isn't going to be pretty.

[noko No.6225158]

>>6216836
never in public, the chance they get it right at a non cocktail bar, is pretty low.

[Anonymous No.6225185]

>>6225156
ugh, this.

a few years ago I was drinking white Russians all night.

I wasn't hung over at all, but I sure as shit was puking my guts out

[Anonymous No.6225236]

I'm going to order a red headed slut and there's nothing you can do about it.

[Anonymous No.6225313]

>>6225236
I'd like a red-headed slut right now, too, but what's a bartender going to do about that?

[Anonymous No.6226552]

>>6222510
yeah I was going to say Niggerroni

[Squire No.6226670]

>>6224976
>Actually knows about cocktail history
>Is a cunt about it.

I'm impressed and saddened

[Anonymous No.6226936]

>>6224779
Get really drunk on cheap gin. Like so drunk you shit your pants, puke on the door, and can't remember anything at all.

Then a week later, slowly sip a dram of good scotch. Only then will you appreciate good liquor.

[Anonymous No.6226940]

>>6224890
If you're not drinking it out of copper, you're doing it wrong.

[Anonymous No.6226944]

>>6223639
Wait, what? I've never seen Tonic Water that was made WITH hfcs.

[Anonymous No.6227015]

>>6225096

this is a bunch of complete horseshit made up by food hipsters and need to be pounded from behind by Satan's cock.

HFCS means NOTHING to gin. NOTHING.

I'd bet you $100 on the spot that you couldn't tell the difference between sugar or HFCS in a gin and tonic if you didn't know which was which

[Anonymous No.6227047]

>>6217423
ordering that stuff is just fun, dude. loads of places have garish 'i have to try that' drinks, obviously you could maximise your rep conservation by ordering it for a chick/the table but still, no one's gonna judge

[Anonymous No.6227054]

>>6225096

the obsession everyone has with hfcs is so fucking dumb. it's just supposed to deliver a specific amount of sweetness without any additional flavour characteristics, there's nothing wrong with it and it's just as 'real' as 'real sugar'.

[Anonymous No.6227057]

>>6227054
>there's nothing wrong with it and it's just as 'real' as 'real sugar'.

I disagree. It's artificially expensive compared to sugar. There's absolutely no reason whatsoever to use it, aside from political bullshit.

[Anonymous No.6227118]

>>6216792

They're kind of a chick drink, but that's okay; I like chick drinks.

Read "The joy of drinking."
http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/1596913371

[Anonymous No.6227138]

>>6219964
>>6220000
>>6220011

Use dark rum, mexican coke, and a squeeze of lime.

It's worthy of having a different name than the shit-tier bacardi and HFCS swill.

[Anonymous No.6227152]

>>6216792
Bait?

I liked 'em before they were cool.

Now that they're 'cool', people forget that they were a way of softening cheaper whiskey so it'd taste better, but w/e.

>>6218943
That's a joke. Here's a similar joke:

The perfect Screwdriver is where you fill a cup with frozen vodka, then dip an orange peel in it and drink.

Kingsley Amis didn't bother with the joke; he actually did it. The man was a hero.

[Anonymous No.6227229]

>2 shots of dark spiced rum
>1 dash of bitters
>1 slice of lime

I generally just drink my rum straight, but if my taste buds are feeling weird this is what I go with.

Also you better not be drinking your old fashioned with cherry or any mixer.

[Anonymous No.6227243]

>>6224843
At a good bar, most bars will make them but 99% will make them wrong.

[Anonymous No.6227264]

Moscow mule with cucumber and mint as garnish is probably one of my favourites since quite some time.
White russian is also quite high on my list and easy to make yourself.

[Anonymous No.6227276]

If you have a juicer, try making cucumber juice and adding it to ginger ale. The resultant thing is a miracle, and a good starting point to many cocktails.

[Anonymous No.6227911]

>>6224843
>>6227243
If the bar makes them wrong, you were not specific enough.

People will be extremely specific about their coffee order, but when they go to a bar and order a drink they just say, "Manhattan".

The bartender will not get upset if you have a specific way you like your drink. Unless you order it like an asshole, of course. They know that if they make it well, they will get a bigger tip.

[Anonymous No.6227938]

>>6224794

I guess i'm failing to see the difference between pretentious mixology spots and speakeasies. PDT, Angel's Share, Death and Co. and Little Branch all seem the same level of pretentious to me. I just order waht the bartender or waiter recommends because i'm going there for the experience.

Luckily my gf is getting into cocktail making, which is the best shit ever :)

[Anonymous No.6227955]

I browse /r9k/, some generals in /vg/ and /tv/ but whenever I browse /ck/ I'm amazed by the amount of autism here. I love it.

[Anonymous No.6229308]

>>6224794
>>6227938
There is nothing wrong with places like Death & Co and Milk & Honey. There is everything wrong with third-tier restaurant bars adding overcomplicated "signature cocktails" that don't even taste good because places like Death & Co gave everyone an insecurity complex over their bartending. If you people had taste buds you'd know the difference.

[Anonymous No.6229389]

>>6217565
Your grandpas used to fuck each other.
> in da butt

[Anonymous No.6229401]

>>6226944
Come to America, then, and shop for tonic at one of our thousands of fine grocery stores.
Thanks to both sugar tariffs and sweetheart government subsidies for corn growers, HFCS is 10% cheaper than sugar here, and is used in EVERYTHING as a result.
Despite the fact that, you know, it makes everything it's in taste off-balance and shitty.

[Anonymous No.6229407]

>>6227015
Tried both, and it DOES make a difference. About the same difference it makes between a domestic coke and a Mexican coke.
The first isn't bad and is certainly familiar, but the second tastes completely right.

[Anonymous No.6229408]

>>6227054
Cornfag pls go.
Real people without a political agenda are talking here.

[Anonymous No.6229445]

>>6223069
Canadian here. I like Caesars, they are my favorite. It's like a bloody mary but instead of tomato juice we used clamato. It's more savory and spicy. It's fucking GOAT.

Also, what kind of whiskey is good for old fashioned and whiskey sour? All I have is Jack and wondering if that would be decent.

[Anonymous No.6229470]

Manhattan's usually pretty good. Unless made by a moron.

[Anonymous No.6229506]

>>6229445
It'll work just fine. Bourbon and rye whiskey are also good.
I like rye whiskey best myself, but that's me. The flavor is a little stronger and thus holds its own better in cocktails.