This guy is over your house for a family dinner, he asks for a vegan meal. What do you do?

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Anonymous Sat Jan 31 22:10:08 2015 No.6194351 [Reply] [Original]

This guy is over your house for a family dinner, he asks for a vegan meal.

What do you do?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 22:11:01 2015 No.6194355 lock the doors hand him a live chicken with a knife tell him thats his dinner

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 22:11:08 2015 No.6194356 maybe give him a banana or something

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 22:11:43 2015 No.6194363 >>6194355 So epic American hero fucking vegans

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 22:12:27 2015 No.6194366 Pass him a head of lettuce

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 22:12:53 2015 No.6194368 >>6194351 tell him if he mows my lawn he can eat the clippings.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 22:13:07 2015 No.6194370 File: 360 KB, 553x737, tipsfedora23.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6194366 >head Not vegan

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 22:13:18 2015 No.6194371 >>6194351 I'm a heterosexual bachelor who lives alone, why would I have some random dude I've never met with a 1990s haircut in my dining room, and in what way is the scenario a "family dinner"?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 22:14:26 2015 No.6194374 File: 68 KB, 188x123, bye.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6194351

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 22:14:50 2015 No.6194376 File: 475 KB, 861x930, 186821376.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i crack open my days-old bag of this after it browns and tell him to enjoy

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 22:19:10 2015 No.6194391 >>6194351 Tell him to make it. It's rude not to mention these things beforehand.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 22:19:45 2015 No.6194393 >>6194371 This. Except I'm as gay as a Jimmy Choo handbag stuffed full of glitter and rainbows. Though I did have a vegan dinner tonight, coincidentally.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 22:21:04 2015 No.6194396 "The vegan option is to get the fuck out."

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 22:22:20 2015 No.6194400 >>6194351 >This guy is over your house for a family dinner, he asks for a vegan meal. He'd get one. I cook pretty much vegan at home. When I want some animal products I go out for them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 22:41:11 2015 No.6194447 >>6194351 kick him in the ovaries

Anonymous Sat Jan 31 22:52:22 2015 No.6194476

How vegan are we talking here? If I actually know him, I'd tell him my clean counters and utensils sometimes touch animal products. If he has a problem with that, like he's some turbo vegan, he should probably leave because I have pets.

Or if he doesn't care about pets and does care about meat ever being in my kitchen he can have an unopened can of whatever I find in the pantry? So, just beets right now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 22:52:53 2015 No.6194479 Whole wheat pasta with squash, mushrooms, and kale, side of salt-n-pepper chickpeas

Anonymous Sat Jan 31 22:56:59 2015 No.6194490
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Bean tostadas. Don't put cheese on top of his. Paired with a side of tortilla chips with guacamole and pico de gallo, or salsa.

Well that was fucking easy.
I have this all the time either way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 22:57:27 2015 No.6194492 >>6194476 bro i know you got some dusty cans of water chestnuts back there we all do

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:01:47 2015 No.6194502 >>6194492 I don't. Tinned, they taste like arse-nuggets. Fresh only for me, thanks, though I've never had them frozen. Don't even know if they're sold frozen at all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:03:49 2015 No.6194509 Why are Americans triggered by vegetarianism? Also, why do Americans think veganism is the same as vegetarianism?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:04:49 2015 No.6194510 >>6194509 Because vegans are self righteous assholes who think they're ethically and nutritionally superior when they're only ethically superior.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:05:41 2015 No.6194511 >>6194510 wot

Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:08:54 2015 No.6194519

>>6194509

>why do Americans think veganism is the same as vegetarianism?

Because they're supposed to mean the same thing. Historically, "vegetarian" and "vegan" were the same thing, then people wanted to be vegetarian in regards to not eating meat but didn't want to give up either fish, eggs, or dairy, so they made up sub-groups for those people and called vegans "strict vegetarians," and now there's so many non-strict vegetarians that it's easier to just refer to ovo and lacto vegetarians as vegetarians and actual vegetarians as vegans

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:10:02 2015 No.6194523 I would make some falafels if I was given advanced notice. It's one of the only vegan foods that pretty much anyone likes, even if they are hardcore meat eaters. The normal people can have their falafel pitas with tzatziki and bacon, crazy delicious

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:11:51 2015 No.6194529 >>6194523 >It's one of the only vegan foods that pretty much anyone likes, even if they are hardcore meat eaters. A friend of mine used to really like falafel until I mentioned that it's vegan. Then he decided he didn't like it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:12:26 2015 No.6194530 beans and rice works fine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:13:58 2015 No.6194539 >>6194509 People throughout the western world are triggered be vegetarianism. The British used to force or trick Hindus into eating meat.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:14:30 2015 No.6194540 If he asks in advance, I'll make him something. Probably pretty simple, like some kind of fancy salad. If he asks when we're sitting down together, I'll slowly push the salad bowl in his direction while maintaining awkward eye contact.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:15:57 2015 No.6194543 >>6194529 That's too bad. I guess it's people attaching a dislike of a lifestyle to what that lifestyle is associated with. Sometimes fair, usually not.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:16:13 2015 No.6194544 >>6194351 His only options are cereal with water, cereal with steel reserve, or my dick because hes a faggot

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:16:18 2015 No.6194545 I make him a tempeh burger with frozen vegetables and white rice. Only as we're eating do I realize I have no idea who this man is or why he's in my apartment.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:17:12 2015 No.6194549 >>6194519 >Historically, "vegetarian" and "vegan" were the same thing Do you want me to believe that the Americans on this board are historically aware and not simply doing this out of ignorance?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:17:17 2015 No.6194550 >>6194543 Same reason you can't mention kale without people thinking you're some kind of asshole

Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:19:47 2015 No.6194555

>>6194539
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_Indian_Rebellion_of_1857#The_Enfield_Rifle

The packs of gun powder or whatever used for muskets back then was greased in lard or tallow and needed to be opened by biting them, much as some people open packets of crisps/chips and other stuff nowadays. Naturally, this pissed off both Mohammedan Indians and Hindus.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:20:06 2015 No.6194556 >>6194549 >Americans >not being fat, ignorant cunts What do you think?

Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:20:24 2015 No.6194558

>>6194351
Well since I apparently invited him I presumably already have something prepared. If he's never brought it up before and didn't mention it when initially invited, I'll try to make do with plating whatever is part of the meal that would work while being mildly annoyed that he didn't mention his dietary restriction before I planned and prepared the meal.

If by some chance he's in my home uninvited asking to eat my food I suppose I call the cops.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:22:26 2015 No.6194562 >>6194555 >was greased Was BELIEVED to be greased. There was no proof of this. >look guys just make a new batch of bullets if you're that worried about it >"OH SO IT IS GREASED WITH LARD ISN'T IT?"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:23:04 2015 No.6194564 >>6194550 Kale is the most delicious leafy green vegetable imo and I have to be ashamed of liking it now ;_;

Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:23:37 2015 No.6194566
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>>6194351
Sometimes I make vegan or vegetarian meals incidentally. On the unlucky occasion that he stopped by while I had a meatloaf in the oven, I'd make him rice and beans... because I always have rice and beans in the cupboard.

Alternative option: scrap dinner and order Chinese. He can get a Buddha's delight, since he loves vegetables so much.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:27:50 2015 No.6194573 >>6194562 Here's a thought: don't give weapons to the people you're subjugating. Ever consider that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:28:15 2015 No.6194575 >>6194562 Actually it was common to grease rounds. Other wise you're more or less fucked.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:35:38 2015 No.6194601 >>6194509 Because vegans are generally insufferable. If for some reason I ever decided to adopt the vegan diet I would use the older term "strict vegetarian" just to avoid associating myself with those dickheads.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:37:57 2015 No.6194608 >>6194601 How many vegans do you know mate?

Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:39:47 2015 No.6194611

>>6194519
That's not really true, the word vegetarian covered both since the moment it was coined in English and both ovo-lacto vegetarians and strict vegetarians were amongst the members of the earliest of the philosophical and religious movements that restarted the practice in Europe after the enlightenment. Vegetarianism was always both people who chose not to eat flesh and people who followed what we would now call a vegan diet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:41:31 2015 No.6194614 >>6194564 Spinach is better anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:43:16 2015 No.6194619 >>6194614 no it's not spinach is slimy and complete garbage compared to kale

Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:45:36 2015 No.6194622

1.) Tell him meat is the natural order
2.) Tell him vegans will act as garnish on the corpses of others after the apocalypse
3.) Tell him vegans are weak and vegan body builders cheat
4.) Throw rice at him
5.) Throw sticks at him
6.) Give him a potato and turn away, run and cry
7.) Tell him you don't believe in vegans
8.) Not eating meat is blasphemy
9.) Not eating meat is anti-science
10.) Eating meat helps curve carbon footprints

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:46:19 2015 No.6194624 >>6194608 Not that poster, but I have known several dozen and only two have ever been anything other than insufferable. Most vegetarians are generally okay, but most vegans are just a challenge to be around.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:53:35 2015 No.6194640 >>6194608 I know several, most of them you have to walk on glass around to avoid get a rant. It's the same problem that arises around religious zealots and people who are overly invested in politics.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:54:45 2015 No.6194644 File: 2.84 MB, 412x184, footballcreeper.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's the point of vegans anyway? What's so bad about eating meat? Is there a health point to it or is it all humanitarianism?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:54:59 2015 No.6194645 Probably some kind of pasta with olive oil and reconstituted porcini mushrooms. Probably roast some broccoli and cauliflower as a side dish. Actually doesn't sound too bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:57:30 2015 No.6194653 >>6194351 share with him what i've made for myself

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:57:59 2015 No.6194655 >>6194644 Vegans will tell you both but the truth is that, nutritionally, a good vegan diet is no better than a good omni diet

Anonymous Sat Jan 31 23:58:51 2015 No.6194657

>>6194644

If they are doing it for health reasons I think the person is misinformed. Lean protein+ veg is the best thing in the world for you.

Most of them do it for moral reasons I think. I don't like eating from factory farms because those places are basically animal torture facilities, but killing an animal that has had a pleasant life it totally fine, it's actually a better deal than they would get anywhere if the animals were wild.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 00:00:55 2015 No.6194662 >>6194608 AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 00:01:13 2015 No.6194664 >>6194655 >>6194657 So I should just keep eating turkey and beef and ignore my niece's obnoxious boyfriend?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 00:03:13 2015 No.6194669 File: 176 KB, 800x700, peat.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6194664 Well, meat is bad when not eaten in moderation and literally every nutritional body agrees. If you're eating lots of meat, you should stop doing that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 00:06:04 2015 No.6194673 >>6194669 Not a whole lot, just a bit per meal.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 00:08:42 2015 No.6194677 >>6194624 >>6194640 Oh well. I don't actually know any vegans. I've been vegetarian for two years and never say a word about it unless asked. If I'm served meat, I eat it and enjoy it. >>6194662 English. >>6194622 tips trilby

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 00:08:45 2015 No.6194678 File: 19 KB, 491x404, 200[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6194669 >ray peat

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 00:09:57 2015 No.6194685 >>6194669 >avoid products with gums Yet tubers are alright?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 00:10:07 2015 No.6194686 >>6194657 >lean protein Like beans?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 00:11:07 2015 No.6194688 >>6194644 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30gEiweaAVQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DCjwIVJmMw

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 00:12:43 2015 No.6194689 >>6194351 feed him my asshole

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 00:12:47 2015 No.6194690 >>6194644 >still confusing vegans for vegetarians Anyway, do you have any pets, anon?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 00:12:47 2015 No.6194691 >>6194686 sure I'm actually mostly vegetarian. I just remember feeling great when I was a /fit/fag and eating my grilled chicken and broccoli all the time

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 00:14:58 2015 No.6194697 >>6194677 Yeah, vegans are terrible people, like all extremists are.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 00:16:52 2015 No.6194703 >>6194690 If everyone didn't have to be an ill-disciplined special snowflake all these subdivisions wouldn't be an issue. No pets.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 00:18:41 2015 No.6194707 >>6194669 What is this mumbo jumbo image?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 00:28:40 2015 No.6194718 hand him his choice of a canned vegetable

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 03:56:45 2015 No.6194953 serve him a vegan meal and then fuck him?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 04:02:40 2015 No.6194957 >>6194644 all i know is that meat constipates me so i have to severely limit it. i don't know about the moralfags.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 06:13:59 2015 No.6195078 ALRIGHT DANIEL HERE THINKS HE'S BETTER THAN THE REST OF US, ANY OTHER KIDS WHO DON'T WANT TO JOIN THE FAMILY DINNER? SHOULD I ORDER A PIZZA? OR MAYBE GET SOMETHING FROM MCDONALDS?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 06:18:39 2015 No.6195081 Give him a cigarette

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 06:20:16 2015 No.6195084 So he just wants the side dish?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 06:21:53 2015 No.6195086 File: 18 KB, 649x214, 73unvMK.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The only thing a vegan gets to eat from me is a BULLET

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 07:17:11 2015 No.6195147 >>6194351 I'd make pasta with tofu and tomato sauce. I'd give him a knife and plate to crumble the tofu, since he could have said he ate vegan before he showed up.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 07:19:22 2015 No.6195149 skip the dinner and just make out with him and cuddle

Anonymous Sun Feb 1 08:54:39 2015 No.6195227

You guys are fucking stupid he's already eating a salad if he needed any more I'd make him more salad but im assuming that he was eating that entire bowl and thats a pretty big bowl he's probably almost full so I wouldn't have to make alot or anything very easy problem to fix also I like his style

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 09:07:21 2015 No.6195245 If you don't like the meat, you can pick it out. Wa la

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 09:43:56 2015 No.6195288 >>6194393 >I'm as gay as a Jimmy >>6194393 >I did have a vegan dinner tonight Not as much of a coincidence as you think.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 09:46:50 2015 No.6195292 Throw him out after a good ass kicking

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 10:08:45 2015 No.6195333 >>6194351 fuck'n make him one I have enough "side dishes" I normally put with meals I make for company would not be hard to make a few of those vegan if they aren't already. I generally only serve one meat item a meal anyways.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 14:20:05 2015 No.6195885 >>6195086 >>6195078 >>6195292 triggered

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 14:23:13 2015 No.6195894 make a dish with lentils and potatoes, naan and some simple dessert offer it to everyone continue to serve original meal as normal y'all are faggots

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 14:28:06 2015 No.6195900 >>6194351 tell him to eat the side dishes The Buddha was a vegetarian but usually ate whatever he was served to be a good guest. Vegans don't have to be assholes, they choose to I suppose.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 14:39:40 2015 No.6195929 >>6195900 >vegetarians >vegans

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 14:42:46 2015 No.6195937 >>6195900 No he wasn't. His last meal was fucking pork for shit's sake. And the Dalai Lama isn't vegetarian, either. Why do white people Buddhist wannabes spread this misinformation so readily?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 14:44:02 2015 No.6195942 >>6194351 Serve him everything else and just add his serving of meat to mine.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 14:44:17 2015 No.6195943 File: 25 KB, 528x396, ursasenke.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6195937 >but usually ate whatever he was served to be a good guest. Why do white people hate other white people so much?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 14:48:43 2015 No.6195953 >>6195943 Except nowhere in his teachings did the Buddha prohibit meat consumption, ever, and he himself had a strong fondness for pork, chicken and various fish.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 14:50:22 2015 No.6195960 >>6195953 >americlap so triggered by vegetarianism that he has to start policing buddhism really sad, lad

Meat Minimalist !!QlEfxPKY65n Sun Feb 1 14:55:11 2015 No.6195978
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>what? food that isn't deep fried pink slime on top of a heap of deep fried tubers? VEGANISM! PETA! B12!

Picky eaters whining about vegetarians are like picky eaters freaking out about gluten. To them it's an enormous relief that they've found a label that seems to make their disorder socially acceptable.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 14:58:57 2015 No.6195987 >>6195960 Nope. I'm vegetarian myself and not an American, either. The Buddha never prohibited meat. He barely even suggested people to be vegetarian. He said something like "it'd be nice if people were vegetarian," but that's about it.

Anonymous Sun Feb 1 14:59:54 2015 No.6195988

>>6194669
Pretty much anything not eaten in moderation is going to be bad for you, nutritionally. Too much broccoli and kale is bad for your thyroid. Brazil nuts can give you selenium poisoning. Quinoa can by very irritating to your gut and cause a high inflammatory response. Too much citrus leads to increased pH and causes ulcers in your stomach. And large amounts of white rice, as in asians, is linked to increased risk of type 2 diabetes.

Everything in moderation. Variety of diet. And stay away from too much sugar. The fucking end. Any other notes is just up to the individual variances.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 15:01:15 2015 No.6195990 >>6194351 Make a black bean burrito with pico and guac. Also put extra hot sauce in it so he chokes cause hes most likely a huge pussy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 16:18:47 2015 No.6196162 >>6194476 >just beets right now. Feed him some bread, too. Then mention that he's feasting on the corpses of millions of yeasts.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 16:22:22 2015 No.6196173 >>6194351 tell him even the leaf spinach isn't vegan safe since I use chicken crap for fertilizer

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 16:22:24 2015 No.6196174 i would make an all vegetable dish and secretly ad lard and chicken broth and other animal products that the vegan would not notice eating. at the end of dinner I expose my plan and tell him he's been DUPED

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 16:43:27 2015 No.6196231 Beans on toast

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 17:09:45 2015 No.6196308 >>6196174 here is your reply

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 17:12:15 2015 No.6196311 >>6196174 nonsexual things teenaged boys fantasize about: the post

Anonymous Sun Feb 1 17:31:52 2015 No.6196352

I always tell people what I"m preparing beforehand so I wouldn't have this issue. If they were too stupid to pay attention then that's their fault, and they can eat whatever sides I have that are vegan, if there are any. Otherwise they'd just get the response of "dude I told you what I was making..."

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 19:15:39 2015 No.6196544 >>6194566 That's not Buddha. Buddha is never depicted as fat. >the more you learn

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 19:33:28 2015 No.6196567 >>6196544 >Buddha is never depicted as fat. - just because a quote came from the internet, it does not have to be true. Abraham Lincoln

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 19:39:32 2015 No.6196579 >>6194351 point him to the door and wish him well

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 19:46:02 2015 No.6196587 >>6196567 That's my favorite Lincoln quote, the man was a visionary

Anonymous Sun Feb 1 19:54:43 2015 No.6196602

>>6196567

That anon is right, Buddha is not depicted as fat. The confusion comes because there is Guatama Buddha who is the original buddha and there are other individuals who are also called Buddhas. The fat Buddha in the picture I believe was a Chinese Buddha.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 19:56:45 2015 No.6196607 >>6194351 Mow the grass and put it on a plate.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 20:01:01 2015 No.6196617 Can we agree that veganism is a mental illness?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 20:04:30 2015 No.6196623 Give him a glass of water

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 20:07:43 2015 No.6196632 Given I am a vegetarian and a lot of what I cook is vegan by more or less accident, I probably wouldn't give two fucks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 20:08:58 2015 No.6196635 >>6194391 This is the right response. If you have special requirements for your diet and you show up with no forewarning; fix the meal yourself or bring something to eat. People shouldn't have to accommodate your special needs with no notice.

Anonymous Sun Feb 1 20:26:24 2015 No.6196679

>>6196617
Why don't we formalize the general /ck/ sentiments as a series of commandments? For easy reference:
- Avoidance or minimization of consumption of meat, dairy, or eggs is a mental illness and deserves nothing less than murder
- Tastiness of meat is inversely proportional to the welfare of that animal while it was alive
- MSG is deadly poisonous
- Putting condiments on steak deserves nothing less than murder
- Cooking steak to any doneness other than rare makes you a subhuman
- Any criticism of the abuse of the "intellectual property" system by companies involved in GM research is unacceptable
- Gin & tonic is a drink for women
- Vegetarianism is veganism, and "pescetarian" is a word made up in 2014 for the specialest of snowflakes
- Wine is pretentious
- All food allergies are just the person being a pussy
- Drinking any beer other than the topmost mass produced ones may be an indicator of homosexuality and trend-following
- It's impossible to not like scotch
- Green shit doesn't belong on pizza
- I can't abide what put on a hotdog
- Most foods just aren't appropriate for an adult to eat
- If I haven't heard of it, it's an emerging fad

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 20:28:17 2015 No.6196682 >>6196679 >- I can't abide what put on a hotdog - I can't abide what others put on a hotdog

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 20:30:32 2015 No.6196689 Scream at him to get out of my house, he's not my family, what is he doing here?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 20:31:33 2015 No.6196690 >>6196567 Hey mike birbigglebug

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 20:33:38 2015 No.6196698 >>6196679 I want to murder /ck/

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 20:38:57 2015 No.6196709 File: 2.09 MB, 1283x777, aaeerwer.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6196679 Pretty much nailed it, we can all stop posting forever

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 20:45:10 2015 No.6196730 >>6196679 /ck/ - Full of shitty opinions since forever

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 20:55:36 2015 No.6196764 >>6196602 It's not even the Chinese Buddha, it's Budai, an entirely different character who only happens to have a similar name. The relation between him and Buddha is about like the one between Jesus and Thor. >>6196567 Moron.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 21:02:15 2015 No.6196782 >>6196679 dude, the people who don't eat meat are the same ones who think MSG is poison

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 21:02:31 2015 No.6196785 >>6196764 no it's buddha, it's a title given to those who've become enlightened, generally speaking when you say just buddha it's assumed you mean sidartha, but there are many buddhas

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 21:32:41 2015 No.6196854 >>6196782 my experience indicates otherwise

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 21:37:23 2015 No.6196867 Pull out Thug Kitchen and make something from it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 22:02:09 2015 No.6196924 Make some Indian food, something without ghee.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 22:07:53 2015 No.6196936 >>6194601 The ones who will actually tell you about it, you mean. Which indicates something about the personalities of the individuals. Other vegans stay home and grow food or go to the farmer's market or whatnot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 22:13:07 2015 No.6196946 >>6194669 Why does it recommend regular table salt specifically?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 22:14:14 2015 No.6196948 >>6194673 I think that qualifies as a lot.

Anonymous Sun Feb 1 22:14:27 2015 No.6196950

>>6196936
>Other vegans stay home and grow food or go to the farmer's market or whatnot.

Yeah I know a few of those. They're the exception, I have absolutely no problem with the sort of vegan who isn't pushy about it. I mean if we're talking about food or going out to eat its find to tell me about it, as long as you aren't making an active attempt to convince me to change.

For all I know these could be the majority of vegans, but if so they aren't even bringing it up in relevant contexts because of the bad name they're given by the loud mouths.

Anonymous Sun Feb 1 22:20:36 2015 No.6196964

If he were from my family he'd know you eat what you're given, not just be a massive bitch. If you have faggy dietary concerns you bring what you need unless you're sleeping with one of the cooks. In the hypothetical instance he's at my family meal and not actually family he'd best fill up on the salad and potentially soup course. And duel forks with me for my aunt's fruit salad for after meal fare.

Anonymous Sun Feb 1 22:22:59 2015 No.6196971

>>6196936
There are no "other vegans." The behaviours you claim these "other vegans" exhibit imply introversion. By the very nature of being vegan or vegetarian, they can't be introverts.

Introverts, by definition, don't draw attention to themselves. The whole point of veganism and vegetarianism is to use diet as a podium from which to speak down to others; to be the focus of attention. Whether the desire for this focus is to ultimately sway opinion against the consumption of animal products or simply for the attention itself, the whole vegan/vegetarian movement is based on seeking attention.

This is not something introverts do. There are no introverted vegans and there never can be. There's more evidence for David Icke's batshit theories than there is for the existence of the ever-elusive vegan introvert.

Anonymous Sun Feb 1 22:23:38 2015 No.6196972

>>6196950
Even if the majority were loudmouths, that wouldn't necessarily turn me away from the position they take.

Those who argue against a deeply ingrained social practice are always loud and seen as loonies and nuisances. I mean that's the nature of trying to incite change.

Doesn't help matters that in the case of veganism, the vegans actually know about the treatment going on in CAFOs, whereas the average person does not. So the situation seems much more urgent to the person who knows. We have two separate issues of "should we eat animals" and "should we give even a single shit about how animals are treated"

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 22:24:13 2015 No.6196974 >>6196946 Iodine, likely.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 22:26:41 2015 No.6196980 >>6196974 That ought to be in the supplement category, then.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 22:28:42 2015 No.6196984 >>6196980 I don't think I've ever seen iodine supplements for sale. Likely because everything has iodine added nowadays.

Anonymous Sun Feb 1 22:29:12 2015 No.6196986

>>6196679
>Impossible to not like scotch
Yeah that's just what real scotch enthusiasts need, more alpha pretenders shitting up our playground

>Gin and Tonic girls drink
Might be, doesn't stop a gin and tonic, served in a large Bordeaux or burgundy style glass in the summer sun from being amazing

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 22:30:55 2015 No.6196989 >>6196971 The point of veganism is to treat animals with kindness. People using it for political or social gain doesn't change that, Bitter McButthurt.

Anonymous Sun Feb 1 22:36:28 2015 No.6197000

>>6196989
Although I will admit that the stricter you get with veganism, the more you descend down a slope of not wanting to hurt anything ever. The end of that line is, I suppose, killing yourself. So of course vegans seem insane.

Where to draw the line is subjective, but that doesn't mean I think it's not worthwhile to take a stab at it, no pun intended.

Anonymous Sun Feb 1 22:36:35 2015 No.6197001

>>6194622
I cant tell if this dude is troll or not but irregardless why are some people so butt hurt about being vegan, you are all basically falling for the stereotype that every vegan is an asshole. I have met a lot of vegans (I live in socal, what do you expect now I guess) and most of them are pretty chill. Actually, most are way more down to Earth and cool to chat with or hang out even.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 22:38:02 2015 No.6197004 >>6197001 >spreading vegan propaganda like a schill

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 22:38:17 2015 No.6197006 >>6194657 Lean protein is definitely exponentially better for you than fatty, but animal protein in general is more difficult and time consuming to digest (than say, vegetables or fruits), therefore it puts unneeded stress on the intestinal system.

Anonymous Sun Feb 1 22:39:28 2015 No.6197011

>>6196989
No it isn't. According to >>6196972 (you?), the point is
>to incite change
You don't incite change by quietly munching alfalfa sprouts and keeping to yourself. You incite change by being
>loud and seen as loonies and nuisances.
Loud people aren't introverts, Anon. They're just... not.
The very nature of the entire movement is to seek attention, regardless of whether that attention is for a cause perceived as positive (animal welfare) or negative (simple look-at-me-ism).

Anonymous Sun Feb 1 22:43:00 2015 No.6197022

>>6197006
>but animal protein in general is more difficult and time consuming to digest (than say, vegetables or fruits), therefore it puts unneeded stress on the intestinal system.

Do you know what fiber is? How masticating vegetables and fruit properly is incredibly important? That we don't absorb nutrients in some nuts and seeds if they are not broken down because they pass right through us? What are you basing your "protein is stressful" opinion on?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 22:44:22 2015 No.6197026 >>6197022 >What are you basing your "protein is stressful" opinion on? Hearsay.

Anonymous Sun Feb 1 22:48:28 2015 No.6197037

>>6197011
Vegan just means you don't eat animal products, so quietly being vegan still means you're vegan.

As for the people actively trying to get others to be vegan, yeah you're right. They have to be extroverts.

Some people might say that the best way to get others to change is to quietly, politely set an example. Sometimes that's true, since annoying people will cause them to hate you and, by extension, everything you stand for.

But if we're talking about, say, improving the living standards of farm animals, force and loudness would be the only way. It's like the cops forcing someone to stop beating their dog. The cops politely asking the guy won't do shit.

So I can see the value of being aggressive, even though some people apply it in counterproductive ways or use a movement for unrelated personal gain.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 22:52:54 2015 No.6197048 >>6197037 Nope. Find me a single example of a single vegan who isn't attention-seeking or preachy. Go ahead. Just one.

Anonymous Sun Feb 1 23:02:58 2015 No.6197072

>>6196679
>It's impossible not to like scotch

That's funny, my experience is closer to
>It's impossible to like scotch, if you pretend you do you're an 12 yr old fedora trying to appear gentlemanly

Also, you missed:
>no one likes sushi, if you pretend you do you're a pretentious tryhard
>sushi is the best shit ever, if you don't agree you're a flyover moron
>Wisconsin makes the best cheese on earth
>Wisconsin makes kraft singles exclusively
>Murrica has the best beer, belgians are fags
>Murrica only makes budweiser and pbr
>All americans are fat retarded faggots
>All non-americans are jealous retarded faggots

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 23:04:30 2015 No.6197079 File: 780 B, 200x200, 780 byte bait.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6197048 >find me something that is invisible <1KB bait

Anonymous Sun Feb 1 23:08:14 2015 No.6197087

>>6197079
All I'm seeing is you admitting that you can't. Like I said: there's more evidence for reptoids than these supposed vegan introverts.

The whole point of going vegan is to be the focus of attention and so you can justifiably have tantrums in public without being black.

Anonymous Sun Feb 1 23:20:01 2015 No.6197103

>>6197087
I am not the same guy. You are entirely insane if you think there aren't any vegans who practice their lifestyle without preaching. And even if I linked you some random site were people are innocently sharing vegan recipes etc. you'd still call it "attention seeking", because you can't win with insufferable people like you.

Anonymous Sun Feb 1 23:21:47 2015 No.6197107

>>6194351
depends.
>He's a guy I actually like and a bro who just happens to be a vegan
I'll check my fridge for anything that I could use to substitute the main meal I cook for everyone else.
>He's a random guy/a buddy that isn't close to me
He gets whatever everyone else gets but without the meat.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 23:27:39 2015 No.6197117 >>6197103 All I'm seeing are excuses, too. You're not even trying to show Anon anything.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 23:48:24 2015 No.6197151 >>6197087 There's obviously no evidence for something which, by definition, cannot give evidence of itself. Tons of people in India would (not) like a word with you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 23:52:10 2015 No.6197158 >>6194351 I figure something out. I have some vegan microwavable meals that I heat up from time to time. (They're pretty good for you, and taste okay, good for when I'm lazy)

Anonymous Sun Feb 1 23:54:31 2015 No.6197164

>>6197151
You do realise that veganism is incredibly rare in India, right? In the south, vegetarianism is more uncommon than in the north due to fish being a common source of food throughout the south and the northern vegetarians eat dairy. The whole country eats honey. Even the Jains. Vegans in India number only in the tens of thousands, which is a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the billion people in the country. There are more vegans in the US than there are in India.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 1 23:54:41 2015 No.6197165 >>6197048 >Find me someone who avoids attention Amigo, please.

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 00:00:07 2015 No.6197177

>>6197087
>the whole point of being X is for attention
You can claim this about so many -isms. You are dumb and lack reasoning ability to allow the most irritating people in a group to spoil you on the ideas.

If you don't accept the ideas behind whatever it is, okay, but don't be doin with this.

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 00:04:08 2015 No.6197183

>>6197164
I figured there would be the most vegans in India due to the various forms of Buddhism (who tend not to evangelize, also), but I believe you.

There ARE a lot of vegetarians though. Does going from vegetarian to vegan somehow make you crazy instead of just following a diet? Making that conclusion seems rather hysterical. The reasons for both choices are the same.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 00:04:19 2015 No.6197184 >>6194622 >10.) Eating meat helps curve carbon footprints lel

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 00:04:51 2015 No.6197186

>>6197177
Follow the thread. Even the other person in the argument first said "well, yeah, vegans are loudmouths because they have to be" then when the other guy said the same thing, he want all "nuh-uh! nuh-uh!"
The entire vegan ideology strives for the global abandonment of animal exploitation. You can't affect anything on a global scale without calling attention to it and, therefore, to yourself.

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 00:13:22 2015 No.6197204

>>6197183
No one said crazy. What was said was "attention seeking." And yes. Even the very, very few vegans in India are beginning to start the same batshittery as vegans elsewhere. Though making up less than a tenth of a single percent of the country by the end of 2013, vegans are demanding government stimulus monies for vegan supermarkets.

Also, Buddhists are not vegan or even vegetarian. Hindus and Sikhs in India are actually more likely to be vegetarian than Buddhists are. While not part of India, Sri Lanka is a deshi country. They are also 70% Buddhist. Vegetarianism is far, far, FAR less common in Sri Lanka (about 1% of the population) than in India (about 20% of the population). While veganism is absolutely unheard of in Sri Lanka and exceedingly rare in India.

Veganism is a western invention. It comes from the UK, actually.

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 00:15:53 2015 No.6197207

>>6197186
>The entire vegan ideology strives for the global abandonment of animal exploitation.
There's a difference between
>it would be nice if the whole world shared my view
and
>I'm dedicating my life to a crusade

Some people just want to do what they can to help, and feel better about their own life. Same with any personal moral code.

Isn't this the No True Scotsman fallacy we're dealing with?

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 00:22:40 2015 No.6197224

>>6197207
Not at all.
The vegan philosophy was born only within the last 70 years or so in Britain by Donald somethingorother, the person who coined the word 'vegan' in the first place and founded the tenets of the movement. The official mantra of the movement, and yes "veganism" is indeed a movement and has a mantra, is "Promoting ways of living free from animal products for the benefit of people, animals and the environment."
The key word here is "promoting."
You can't promote something by quietly enjoying it on your own.

This isn't a "no true Scotsman" sort of thing because the guy who coined the word, defined and started the movement has WoG rights on the subject and clearly, WoG states that the movement is meant to promote change on a global scale.

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 00:25:16 2015 No.6197231

>>6197204
Even if the association is often there, why do you think it must always be there? The motivation for avoiding most animal products is not difference from the motivation to cut out even more.

>Veganism is a western invention
Perhaps because the culture/practices of India prevent Indian vegetarians from questioning the consumption of the few animal products they do eat? If they did start questioning it and cut out more foods due to the same principles, what of it.

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 00:29:57 2015 No.6197241

>>6197224
I've never heard of that guy, so that seems to be the disagreement.

I'm saying all you have to do to be a vegan is go to church, while you're saying one is not a true vegan without being a pamphlet-toting door-knocking evangelical. Not that I hate the evangelicals, since to them it is an extremely important cause and they are attempting to help me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 00:31:14 2015 No.6197243 >>6197241 Well it does get a bit hairer when the evangelicals want to kill me in order to save my soul.

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 00:33:40 2015 No.6197248

>>6197231
It's a western invention for the same reason that bushido code is a Japanese one: some guy had too much time on his hands and his life was too easy, so he had to make up some rules to live by to feel like he's better than other people. I wish I was joking, but I'm not. The guy who started veganism basically caused a minor war with the vegetarian community, calling them savages for their consumption of milk and berating them for it.
It was preachy and belittling from its inception and today is only doing what it was designed to do from birth: belittle others for choices they don't agree with.

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 00:45:11 2015 No.6197267

>>6197248
I can see the humaneness of milk being questionable, though. Especially in the United States, holy crap. Like, not historically, but right now.

Some people are just self-righteous, about anything under the sun. Can't you separate an idea from the person who preaches it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 00:54:22 2015 No.6197291 >>6194669 >Bacon: cook in coconut oil wat literally wat

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 01:39:27 2015 No.6197383 >>6196971 What are these paranoid ramblings? You sound like you could crack at any moment. I'd nip that in the bud if I were you. I've never known a board other than /v/ that is so singularly rustled by innocuous aspects of others' lives.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 01:40:57 2015 No.6197386 >>6197072 >>6196986 Yeah that's the point.

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 01:46:43 2015 No.6197402

>>6196971
I've never even told my family I'm vegan.

I don't do it for attention and I'm as introverted as they get. There are lots of assholes that want to talk about it, but I know I'm not going to change anyone's mind so I don't bother. I know how you feel because many of them act holier than thou about it, but you are talking out of your ass.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 07:31:32 2015 No.6197792 >>6197402 >here's a paragraph telling you just how introverted i really, truly am ...

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 07:48:13 2015 No.6197804

>>6194510
>>6194601
My favorite part about this is how many people in this thread are bashing vegans, saying they'd lock them in a room and tell them to kill chickens and shit. LOL, how can they not eat bacon? Simply ebin.

>>6194351
Vegetable stir fry. Cheap, quick, and it's easy to add meat to my own plate without substantially changing anything.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 10:10:16 2015 No.6197994 >>6194351 Make him leave, never talk to him again, and feel like an idiot for making friends with a vegan.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 10:11:18 2015 No.6197999 >>6194351 nigga gets a bowl of rice with sesame seeds

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 10:33:38 2015 No.6198040 >>6194351 Shut up and eat your salad

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 10:35:10 2015 No.6198045

>>6194510

I'd argue that they arn't ethically superior.

Animals raised, albeit not always entirely humane conditions, with a constant supply of food. With a lack of predators trying to kill them, with mostly a lack of parasites. Generally to a decent age. To be killed swiftly once mature.

If vegans and vegetarians had their way these animals would never of had a life and the environment that they inhabited would be used by wild animals which mostly don't survive into adulthood, suffer from diseases, parasites and generally a slow and painful death.

Fuck their so called ethics, they don't know shit.

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 11:29:38 2015 No.6198177

>>6197204
>Also, Buddhists are not vegan or even vegetarian.

To be fair, Buddhists did inherit the ahimsa concept for the vedic religion just like the other dharmic religions did. It's just that most branches only tend to follow it strictly within the sanghas. So it's not entirely wrong to associate vegetarianism with Buddhism (though generally vegetarianism is more important in Chinese buddhism and its offshoots than Indian buddhism.)

It's just that in most cases it's more of a clerical thing, and usually in China and other Mahayana areas rather than Theravada areas like India and Sri Lanka.

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 11:36:44 2015 No.6198194

>>6197804
>My favorite part about this is how many people in this thread are bashing vegans, saying they'd lock them in a room and tell them to kill chickens and shit. LOL, how can they not eat bacon? Simply ebin.

My god people exaggerate their reactions to things on 4chan?!?! Holy fucking shit!

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 14:21:35 2015 No.6198696 >>6197994 >>6198040 triggered >>6198194 4chan isn't the only place you hear this bollocks

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 14:33:47 2015 No.6198720 >>6194351 Give it to him. My meat, I mean. I mean I'm gon' get dat ass.

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 14:58:06 2015 No.6198784

>>6198045

>Animals raised with a lack of predators trying to kill them
>Lack of parasites
>to a decent age

They're literally enslaved by their predators. They live like 1/5 of their natural lifespan at best, and it's hard to say they have an easy time and don't have to worry about being preyed on in childhood when we have veal as a product and male chicks get thrown into blenders or suffocated within hours of their birth. The only times they don't have tons of parasites is when they're fed mountains of antibiotics as part of their feed (which has created a massive public health threat due to antibiotic resistant bacteria). Their feed regularly includes the blood of their own species (used as a B12 source). Diseases of squalor and insanity from the crowded conditions are common.

If you want to beat vegetarians/vegans in an argument, stay far away from engaging in ethical arguments. When it comes to ethics and certain other arguments, they have an advantage over people who eat meat; they developed their opinion contrary to social norms and usually ended up changing their ways later in life, whereas people who eat meat were generally born and raised with the opinion that meat eating is perfectly fine in every way, making their arguments for meat eating more defensive than rational, being basically "I'll say whatever I can think of to justify my habit and won't entertain the idea of changing what I'm already used to"

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:10:17 2015 No.6198807

>>6196764
>>6196602
>>6196544
Budai or Pu-Tai[1][2] (Chinese: 布袋; pinyin: Bùdài), or 布袋(Hotei) in Japanese,[3] Bố Đại in Vietnamese, is a Chinese folkloric deity. His name means "Cloth Sack,"[3][4] and comes from the bag that he is conventionally depicted as carrying. He is usually identified with or seen as an incarnation of Maitreya, the future Buddha, so much so that the Budai image is one of the main forms in which Maitreya is depicted in East Asia.

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:10:47 2015 No.6198809
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>>6198784

>1/5 of their natural lifespans at best
yes but most of their siblings survive though, something that wouldn't happen in the wild

>predation: veal and male chicks
quick death, webm related

>antibiotic resistant bacteria
food borne bacterial pathogens that cause disease in humans are never treated with antibiotics since the disease that is developed is food poisoning, for which the treatment is rest and rehydration

If you want to argue in favour of vegetarians saying that they have the moral high ground tell me how putting a baby chick through a blender in a fraction of a second is more cruel than the attached webm

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:12:21 2015 No.6198813 >>6194669 >milk drinking cock sucker

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:15:26 2015 No.6198820

>>6198784

>feed inclused blood of own species
does that make you squeamish? there is no risk of prion diseases from blood, only from neurological tissue

>diseases of squalor and insanity
these are preventable and public opinion is swaying in favour of better conditions for animals, soon this won't be an argument

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:17:58 2015 No.6198827

>>6198809

Are you trying to boil your argument down to "because bad things also happen in the wild, every animal should die by human hand"? That'd be like saying every human should be raised in concentration camps and then euthenized at age 18 because sometimes people die in other painful ways before then if allowed freedom

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:18:30 2015 No.6198828

>>6194351
Chicken tendies, chicken tendies,
drive me round all the bendies
I want them in my stomach, I feel my mood plummet
MUMMYMUMMY GIVE ME TENDERS
OR YOUR LIFE I WILL BE ENDIN
so in the oven those tendies go
and good boy points given for me to show
pour my ketchup in my little bowl
in this the tendies will trawl
tendies tendies thrown at my wall
no tendies? I will bawl
tendy, tendy, give me tendies
The chicken taste that is so trendy
Mother, will you lend me?
MUMMY MUMMY GIVE ME TENDIES
ALL YOUR MONEY ON TENDIES YOU SHOULD BE SPENDING
TO ME YOU SHOULD BE TENDING
tendies tendies on the floor, mother won't make them anymore
She'll be sorry when I slit her throat the dirty whore

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:20:50 2015 No.6198831

>>6198827

Animals are not human, they are not afforded the same rights because we are not equals they are beneath us.

Your point is invalid because of this.

Are you trying to deny the fact that the quickest and most humane death any animal can receive is in a slaughterhouse by human hands.

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:23:23 2015 No.6198833
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What's it like to have a vegan in your family or circle of friends? Do you have to plan every meal around them or do you just cook whatever you want and they have to fend for themselves?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:24:34 2015 No.6198841 >>6198828 What is the difference between "tendies" and "tenders?"

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:25:48 2015 No.6198844

>>6198831

>Animals are not human

Yet humans are animals. This is a lazy way to ignore the contradiction in what you say you believe. If you actually believed it, you wouldn't then resort to "no, but that's different though" when applying it to humans. If you really think you're sparing the animals a lifetime of misery, why not do the same with humans? I'm not talking about equal rights as much as I'm talking about logical consistency

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:29:08 2015 No.6198855

>>6194351
Tell him if he's not going to eat what I cooked, he can find something in the cabinet. I probably have some browning bananas or something in there, and suggest that if he has dietary concerns he should voice them BEFORE dinner has been made. I then don't invite him back.

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:29:40 2015 No.6198856

>>6198833
>circle of friends
although I've never cooked for a vegan I'd welcome the opportunity. Most of the food I eat anyways is devoid of animal products and if I was cooking under this restriction I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to find a vegan recipe

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:30:05 2015 No.6198857 >>6194351 I'd probably make him one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:30:57 2015 No.6198860 >>6198844 >logical consistency humans are a subset of animals Humans are animals not all animals are human do you even set theory at all??

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:32:08 2015 No.6198863 >>6196162 what's with the persistent rumor about vegans not eating yeast? fungi aren't animals, and veganism is about animal suffering, not about fungal suffering.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:34:31 2015 No.6198873 >>6198841 You can pretty much get tenders at most fast food joints and low end family dining establishments but tendies can only be obtained with GBP and almost always need to be hand delivered by a mother figured regardless of who made them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:34:48 2015 No.6198874 >>6198844 evading the point, illogical >why not do the same with humans? because we are above animals

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:35:57 2015 No.6198879 >>6194351 If he pushed his hair out of his eyes and bothered to shave, ffs...

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:38:19 2015 No.6198887 >>6198874 protip, use the term "non-human animals" when talking to vegans, it makes your points more clear and harder for them to semantically attack. also, what makes us above non-human animals?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:38:39 2015 No.6198889 Give him bread, I dunno.

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:39:03 2015 No.6198893

>>6198860

And not all animals are cows, not all animals are chickens, not all animals are pigs. Of course they aren't humans, which are another type of animal. What I'm saying is it's not logically consistent to imply that for all the other animals you're doing them a favor by confining and killing them, but if we expand it to humans (which would include you, apparently you wouldn't like it to happen to you) you immediately understand how immoral that is. That's logical inconsistency.

It's no different than if I argued that it would be a nice gesture for me to stab you in the neck, and if you said "how would you like it?" I could say "that would be terrible, but I'm above you so it's okay if I do it to you"

This isn't rational thinking, this is just defending a habit

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:39:32 2015 No.6198896

>>6198844

when there's a giant meteor speeding towards Earth, threatening to wipe out all life on the planet, it will be humans who go out to space in the space shuttle and try to blow it up to save us all.

Not cows, not chickens. Humans.
A human can save a cow's life. Rarely will a cow or a sheep save a human's life, let alone an entire population of its own kind.

That's why a human life has more value. Because that responsibility is on us.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:40:47 2015 No.6198902 >>6198896 So if you have responsibility for other life and the ability to save it, why are you choosing to do the opposite?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:42:47 2015 No.6198910 >>6198902 inb4 >muh factory farmed animals would go extinct without factory farms

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:43:26 2015 No.6198913 >>6198902 because BACON taste guRRRRRRDDDD XDDD yeehaw! git er done!

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:44:53 2015 No.6198920 >>6194351 Give him a slice of bread and a glass of water while I eat my fettuccine and shrimp dish, cured meat and gouda, and glass of french berry soda.

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:45:03 2015 No.6198922

>>6198887

no, i'm not going to get into semantics with someone, they know exactly what i mean when i say animal

>also, what makes us above non-human animals?

inb4 you reference studies on chicken intelligence or other higher life forms.

We are above them because we can dominate them

they are given a life of ease not luxury and a swift death. how much more humane would you like to be, every cow can't be brought up in kobe getting daily massages.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:45:24 2015 No.6198925 >>6198896 What about not caring ? Is "I don't give a fuck" logically consistent ?

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:46:25 2015 No.6198931

>>6198902

That's a different matter. My point was referring to the concept of a human life being equal in worth to an animal life.

I didn't say that ending an animal life just because you are human is justified.
I am saying that humans are entitled to believe their lives have more value.

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:47:27 2015 No.6198934

>>6198893

thats not logical inconsistency when you're comparing two things that are not of equal standing.

Tell me do you cry for the billions of bacteria who die in/on your body every single day. Do you cry for plants when they're killed, how about insects?

no of course you don't yet you complain its illogical when in fact its more consistent.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:48:18 2015 No.6198937 >>6198931 I'm not arguing about what has more value to begin with. A family member has more value to me than a random human does, I wouldn't then argue that it's okay to kill people outside of my family

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:49:25 2015 No.6198940 there was a vegan over my house the other night, I made tuna I gave him a bag of potato chips I had in my cabinet

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:49:50 2015 No.6198942 >>6198937 You're making jumps again

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:50:41 2015 No.6198944

>>6198925

If you personally don't care if a meteor is going to wipe out humanity, that's understandable.
But most people will have an inclination to try and save themselves, and by extension, all other life on the planet.
If a few cows need to die during the execution of our solution to the problem, I'm sure they won't mind, since they're not in the possession of the faculties to find an alternative one

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:50:50 2015 No.6198945 >>6198942 Is that more of a jump than "other animals aren't humans, therefore mass slaughter is a nice thing to do"?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:51:06 2015 No.6198946 >>6194351 I'll give him a bag of carrots.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:52:23 2015 No.6198950 >>6198945 I enjoy eating animals. It is very unlikely that I will get harmed by eating animals. Conclusion : I eat animals. Easy, no ?

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:52:38 2015 No.6198951

>>6198893
Humans have rights, including the right to determine their own fate within the constraints of the law. Animals have no such rights.

Humans share a social construct an animal would not be able to reciprocate. They also are unable to articulate their experiences and motivations in a coherent way.

Also, from a biological point of view, altruism is only viable if the cost (or lost benefit) of said altruism is proportional to the gain for the beneficiary multiplied by how closely related the two are. This can be extrapolated to social relations in the context of human society to contain pets or species able to pass the mirror test.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:54:36 2015 No.6198956 >>6198950 >It is very unlikely that I will get harmed by eating animals. Except through heart disease, cancer, stroke, dementia, etc

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:56:16 2015 No.6198962

>>6198951
I don't put too much weight on the mirror test because the implication is the animal is interacting with the world primarily through sight. like a dog identifies things by how they smell, not how they look.
if you put on a disguise you could fool a human but your dog would still be able to tell its you unless you masked your scent

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:56:46 2015 No.6198965 >>6198951 whatever you say ayn rand

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 15:59:45 2015 No.6198972 >>6198956 Yeah if you don't eat a steroid fed cow a day that's actually part of the "very unlikely" bit.

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 16:00:25 2015 No.6198976

>>6198951

I am mostly sympathetic to your post, but this point in particular seems irrelevant:

"They also are unable to articulate their experiences and motivations in a coherent way."

Coherent to humans, in other words. They are plenty of nuances and modalities in animal communication that science has yet to make sense of, but that doesn't mean that animals don't express their motives and experiences in a way coherent to members of their own kind.
If a higher, more intelligent alien kind came down to Earth, and we were unable to understand their mode of communication, that would also mean that they were unable to convey their experiences "in a coherent way", even though that says nothing about our relative standing in terms of social complexity.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 16:00:39 2015 No.6198977 >>6194573 But who polices the natives, who outnumber 100 to 1?

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 16:01:51 2015 No.6198981

>>6198951

>Humans have rights, including the right to determine their own fate within the constraints of the law. Animals have no such rights.

That "the group we're oppressing have no rights of any kind, we're better than them, they're dumb and don't deserve life" concept has been used for thousands of years for humans as well and I don't find it to be a compelling moral belief. I'll go ahead and stop arguing though because I don't think it'll go anywhere, and it's just following what I originally pointed out, which is that most arguments in favor of meat eating, particularly ethical arguments, are more about justifying a pre-existing viewpoint rather than critically examining the system and looking at it honestly.

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 16:02:42 2015 No.6198984

>>6198945

you made a jump to killing a person expecting me to say that that is inhumane. But we're not talking about people, we're talking about animals and how we have the right to kill them. and i never said mass slaughter was nice I said it was humane.

of course you keep beleiving your own ideology

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 16:03:26 2015 No.6198985 >>6198981 Oh yeah, and here's some professional debates about the topic. Check them out if you want https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=586jSyXfOVM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCcJq56ZMJg

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 16:06:31 2015 No.6198990

>>6198981
you are humanizing animals, there is a difference between oppressing humans that have goals and desires, can think critically, and articulate their feelings of how their self relates to the environment they are in; and food items that grunt and shit all over the place

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 16:10:23 2015 No.6198996 >>6198985 >professional debates But.. Just stop. I don't care. I like eating cows and pork and I'd eat fucking dolphins if they tasted good. That's the bottom line.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 16:12:11 2015 No.6199001 >>6198720 no homo?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 16:15:08 2015 No.6199009 >>6198990 For this reason, I propose we eat the retarded, the brain dead and the autistic. Could you imagine how tender Terri Schiavo must have been after 15 years of bed rest?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 16:17:28 2015 No.6199011 File: 60 KB, 640x640, 1421849952037.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6199009 But i don't think you'd be very tasty tbh

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 16:20:04 2015 No.6199015 loud drawn out exhale "God dammit. Alright, let me see what I can throw together" storm off to kitchen and be seen pouring a drink

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 16:22:26 2015 No.6199023 >>6199015 Why be such a faggot ? You can just laugh at him, you don't even have to answer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 16:22:44 2015 No.6199024 File: 261 KB, 510x304, sofritas[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6194351 >There's a chipotle down the street. I hear their sofritas are good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 16:26:31 2015 No.6199032 >>6197001 >irregardless Stopped reading then and there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 16:28:57 2015 No.6199037 >>6199009 They should be euthanized, imho. Cannibalism without immediate necesiity is depraved though.

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 16:32:25 2015 No.6199051

>>6199009
knew that was coming, the problem is the retards belong to someone. I don't plan on eating someones pet.

if you really want me to go there, I don't believe anyone with an IQ below 80 should be entitled to the same rights as others. They are lacking the one thing that makes humans human, a brain capable of critical thought.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 16:32:35 2015 No.6199052 >>6199023 because I like the mental imagery of being a begrudging host who keeps it pent up inside then lets it boil over in private more than just being a direct asshole. It's about subtlety and character development.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 16:35:16 2015 No.6199059 File: 132 KB, 625x984, 1422081139821.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6194355 >hand him a live chicken with a knife A live chicken with a knife, what a scary thought.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 16:46:40 2015 No.6199083 >>6198833 cue three made-up anecdotes

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 16:46:44 2015 No.6199085 >>6199052 When you put it that way you're right. More room for interesting development than just the "manly chad laughing because he gives no fuck" archetype. Go on.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 16:48:29 2015 No.6199089 >>6199059 He didn't say it was a rooster.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 18:36:07 2015 No.6199392 >>6198045 The conditions are hellishly bad, it's definitely worse than living in the wild. Don't lie to yourself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 18:37:45 2015 No.6199402 >>6199392 In the industrial system, that is. Ideally, farm animals can live nice lives. If I buy meat it's always from such farmers.

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 18:40:52 2015 No.6199412

>>6198820
>public opinion is swaying in favour of better conditions for animals, soon this won't be an argument
The poor conditions are profitable, so I expect there will be more misleading advertising, like "free range", which means almost nothing.

I'm hoping for labgrown meat, honestly. Grow the muscle with a brain.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 18:41:52 2015 No.6199417 >>6199412 *without

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 18:43:16 2015 No.6199425

>>6199402

It won't matter soon enough anyway, if populations increase at the rate they currently are there'll be food shortages in most countries before the end of the century, by that point energy inefficient food sources like beef will likely be drastically reduced and if we're not eating energy efficient crops like farmed insects battery hens will be the norm.

>>6199412

Hoping for this too, first lab grown burger was last year wasn't it? Shouldn't be more than 10 until they hit the shelves.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 18:43:50 2015 No.6199429 >>6198860 This is a religious argument and you shouldn't expect everyone to agree, guy. Being more intelligent doesn't put us in a different category, because you said so.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 18:48:53 2015 No.6199448 >>6199425 >there'll be food shortages in most countries before the end of the century for some reason people give a shit about people that will live after they are dead

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 18:49:51 2015 No.6199452

>>6199429

Actually it does, higher order organisms such as monkeys, apes, porpoises and Octopus vulgaris are protected species in law because we say they are deemed intelligent enough to warrant protection.

Clearly not all creatures are born equal, we are at the top of the food chain, that puts us in a different category.

Better men than you have argued this.

>>6199448
I'm 27, i'll likely see 2070.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 18:51:44 2015 No.6199457 Toss him out onto the lawn and tell him to eat some grass. My lawn could use a trim anyhow.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 18:52:20 2015 No.6199459 >>6199448 The increases in technology over the next 75 years should be incredible, people could live to 150.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 18:54:58 2015 No.6199469 >>6199452 I don't see this as a valid excuse to treat animals below a certain line however you want. This categorization is subjective and ultimately arbitrary. If vastly superior aliens came and decided to eat you, you would demand your freedom.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 18:57:42 2015 No.6199476 >>6199469 I don't see you fighting for the rights of insects, plants, bacteria or fungi. You too are guilty of drawing lines in the sand.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 19:00:57 2015 No.6199487 >>6194351 Tell him my dick is a vegan meal.

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 19:04:34 2015 No.6199499

>>6199476
Well, I have to eat to live, so I have to kill something. But I wouldn't go around preaching that the line I have made for myself is an undeniable fact.

If we want to try to quantify this, I think it's the most moral to eat creatures who cannot feel pain, seeing as they lack nervous systems. "Lower" farm animals clearly feel pain, and emotions. So that's roughly the same category as myself. I'm not going to insist that eating them (or abusing them, since you can treat inferior animals however you want right?) is okay just because they're less intelligent than me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 19:06:27 2015 No.6199507 >>6199487 Tell him its a tofu dog

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 19:09:39 2015 No.6199514 >>6199499 And yet research suggests that plants actually do feel rudimentary pain, talk to each other and can hear. Just because you see cattle reacting immediately doesn't make it any less humane than eating plants by your definition.

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 19:17:56 2015 No.6199538

>>6199514
Well, I know what pain feels like as a creature with a brain, and I know it's bad. So if I have to make a choice (and I do if unless I anhero), I'd choose to cause the rudimentary pain, since as far as I know that's not as bad for the brain-lacking and nerve-lacking plant. Causing less pain overall is one of the only goals of a "good" person.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 19:20:37 2015 No.6199547 >>6199538 Also this is why some religious guys turn to fruititarianism. That's as close as you can get to killing nothing, since the plant "wants" you to eat its fruit after it drops to the ground.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 19:21:16 2015 No.6199550 >>6199538 >cop-out: the post

Anonymous Mon Feb 2 19:35:48 2015 No.6199591

>>6199499
>or abusing them, since you can treat inferior animals however you want right?
False, abuse for the sake of abuse is a at best a sign of sadism, a flaw of character. At worst it will change the abuser for the worse.

I feel no moral obligations whatsoever to an animal that would never come to my aid and hasn't even close to the level of self awareness I have.

The quality of my finite life would drop by an unacceptable amount if I were to stop eating meat. If I personally kill my meat by lashing it until it collapses, that would change things. I have killed and butchered my meat before and it wasn't 'fun', but it didn't really bother me either. I have seen the video's of shithole butcheries, and while the animals are treated callously, it's not done with malice. Even so, I prefer my meat to have died with the least amount of suffering possible.

Comparing the consumption of non-human animals to cannibalism to me is crass and vile. Except for minor differences, other humans ARE me. The mentally ill and retarded are still loved by other human beings. The thought of eating another human fills me with a revulsion I believe is hardwired into the normal human mind. It might not be entirely rational, but that doesn't change the fact that cannibalism would give me no pleasure whatsoever, while looking at a cow on an empty stomach awakens primal urges in me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 21:23:34 2015 No.6199980 >>6199514 if plants do in fact feel pain, and you want to reduce plant suffering, a good way to do so would be to cut the animal products out of your diet. fewer plants need to be grown and killed to feed a human than to feed a cow to feed a human.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 21:25:03 2015 No.6199987 File: 391 KB, 762x724, taquieria.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'd remind him that plants feel pain too then kick him in the dick.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 21:25:59 2015 No.6199993 >>6194351 Make him something that doesnt contain animals or their byproducts. No problem vegan bro.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 21:33:03 2015 No.6200019 >>6199987 HOLY FUCK 10/10 SAVED m8 i just dies laughing

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 21:42:34 2015 No.6200055 >What do you do? Suck him off hard and long while feeding him what ever vegan crap he eats.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 2 22:23:49 2015 No.6200193 >>6194351 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-xoXbhnFHY i'd spread em.

Anonymous Tue Feb 3 01:03:34 2015 No.6200611

>>6199476
Those groups are incapable of feeling distress, trepidation, or to even mentally process pain, except for some insects and arthropods which have endorphin and nociceptor systems.

>>6199514
Plants "talk to eachother"? Do you believe in crystal healing too? Where are plants' brains?

>>6199412
Perfectly lean meat with little or no animal suffering involved is going to be good.

I'd be interested in insect patties too, really.

>>6199392
This.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 3 01:08:12 2015 No.6200621 >>6197048 The keyboardist in my band is a vegan and he never goes on about it, ever Just saying

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 3 01:11:06 2015 No.6200625 >>6200611 >insect patties Considering the flavoring tech we use to disguise low quality meats, I'm surprised insects are not already used as filler. Soy is easier, I suppose.

Anonymous Tue Feb 3 04:53:33 2015 No.6200893
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>>6200611
>Plants "talk to eachother"? Do you believe in crystal healing too? Where are plants' brains?

They use chemical communication. They don't have brains, but they do respond to stimuli.

>They (sic) are plenty of nuances and modalities in animal communication that science has yet to make sense of, but that doesn't mean that animals don't express their motives and experiences in a way coherent to members of their own kind.

Claiming this about animals, but ignoring the same in plants is at best hypocritical.

>Perfectly lean meat with little or no animal suffering involved is going to be good.

God no!

Anonymous Tue Feb 3 05:17:42 2015 No.6200913

>>6200893
>implying two things are the same even though they have something in common
"Do carrots scream when you pull them out of the ground?" is the oldest anti-vegetarian argument in the book. Not because the person actually cares about whether plants suffer or not, but because pointing out supposed hypocrisy makes the person feel secure by deflecting any threat to their habits.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 3 05:19:29 2015 No.6200916 >>6200913 *just because they have totally wrong word choice there

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 3 05:47:15 2015 No.6200948 >>6194351 I fix a wonderful vegan meal, maybe a vegan eggplant Lasagna. Inside, I put bacon bits. Tell him afterward. He won't be back.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 3 05:53:37 2015 No.6200955 >>6194351 I always have carrots and a head of cabbage in the fridge

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 3 05:53:53 2015 No.6200956 >>6200948 >bacon bits Jokes on you, friendo

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 3 05:55:04 2015 No.6200959 >>6200956 It's not vegan, even that crap you buy at the store. But I make my own bacon bits.

Anonymous Tue Feb 3 06:11:02 2015 No.6200971

>>6200913
No. It's just that I view lifestock as little more than vegetables, compared to highly intelligent animals, pet animals or humans.

I feel no ethical obligation to cows, pigs or chickens, other than refraining from cruelty for cruelty's sake. Not because of the animals, but because of what it can do to a person.

When you say that animals can reason on a level comparable to humans, they just can't communicate in a comprehensive way, I will call you delusional and point out plants repond to stimuli and communicate too. A plant that is being eaten warns it's neighbours, who immediately start bolstering their defences. You could argue plants feel pain and fear, just not exactly the same way animals do.

You are right, I don't care about the suffering of either meat or vegetables. I know the higher-functioning an organism is, the more capable they are of consciously esperiencing pain and suffering. I don't need to feel secure, I know what I am. I know the most noble thing to do is to minimize suffering.

But I don't care enough for beings that are genetically so little like me, who are so far beneath me intellectually, who have no friends or family that love them who I can in turn relate to.

The suffering I spare those animals does not outweigh the joy I get from consuming their delicious flesh during my finite existence. I don't believe in an afterlife. I don't believe I'll be judged. This is all the time I'll ever have and I'll be damned if I'm going to spend it eating soy instead of steak!

And how fucking DARE you equate meat consumption to fucking cannibalism, you delusional fuck?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 3 06:39:13 2015 No.6200996 >>6194351 period blood soaked tofu "egg salad" sandwich.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 3 07:26:44 2015 No.6201060 >>6200971 >You are right, I don't care about the suffering of either meat or vegetables. Pigs can do multiplication so just put this into thought. you don't kill children, so why would you kill something that has the intellect of a child?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 3 07:28:32 2015 No.6201063 >>6201060 autismos can do math too, doesnt make them human

Anonymous Tue Feb 3 07:31:35 2015 No.6201066

>>6194351
What my family would probably do:

I dunno, probably tell him that we don't have a whole lot of vegan stuff to make him a meal with. We'd make something for him and if he's even slightly impolite, we'd make him aware that he's not welcome anymore. That or just be passive-aggressive assholes about it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 3 07:38:46 2015 No.6201072 Tell him to eat around the steak. He should have mentioned it before arriving.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 3 07:41:44 2015 No.6201075 I think I've got a few veggies, I'd just give him a potato an onion and a carrot and tell him I now pronounce him raw vegan.

Anonymous Tue Feb 3 08:08:55 2015 No.6201113 [DELETED]

>>6201060
Pigs fail the mirror test. They may be smart, but self-aware enough for me to care. Toddlers can pass this test, and they are HUMAN. You're conflating animals and humans again. Consumption of meat is not morally equivalent to cannibalism you delusional fuck.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 3 08:10:15 2015 No.6201116 >>6194351 I guess there's always extra side dishes if you cooked for a family... even if he ends with mash potatoes and fries, i don't think he would be unhappy What did you do?

Anonymous Tue Feb 3 08:15:24 2015 No.6201128 [DELETED]

>>6201060
Pigs fail the mirror test. They may be smart, but they're not self-aware enough for me to care about their welfare. Toddlers can pass this test, and they are HUMAN, same as me. This genetic similarity warrants altruistic behaviour, as do social relations with loved ones, be they pets or humans. This extends to the loved ones of other humans, be they retarded, comatose or otherwise 'subhuman'.

As to WHY? Because bacon tastes great, but eating a child is fucking horrifying. Consumption of animal meat is not morally equivalent to cannibalism you delusional fuck!

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 3 08:18:23 2015 No.6201135 >>6194351 Make him a vegan meal, he has a good face

Anonymous Tue Feb 3 08:32:12 2015 No.6201157

>>6201060
Pigs fail the mirror test. They may be smart, but they're not self-aware enough for me to care about their welfare. Toddlers can pass this test, and they are HUMAN, same as me. This genetic similarity warrants altruistic behaviour, as do social relations with loved ones, be they pets or humans. This extends to the loved ones of other humans, be they retarded, comatose or otherwise 'subhuman'.

As to WHY? Because bacon tastes great, but eating a child is fucking horrifying.It would give me no pleasure whatsoever eating another human being, so why would I? If eating animals is equally horrifying to vegetarians and vegans, so be it. Far be it from me to judge them. I refuse to be judged by them and will point out how I think they're full of shit when they start arguing against meat consumption, though.

Anonymous Tue Feb 3 08:37:10 2015 No.6201162

>>6201157
Also, let me repeat myself:
>The suffering I spare those animals does not outweigh the joy I get from consuming their delicious flesh during my finite existence. I don't believe in an afterlife. I don't believe I'll be judged. This is all the time I'll ever have and I'll be damned if I'm going to spend it eating soy instead of steak!

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 3 08:55:06 2015 No.6201188 >>6201162 you'll be damned?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 3 09:03:38 2015 No.6201199 >>6194351 I wouldn't mind so long as he asked in advance - I'd just make a second, smaller portion of the same thin with animal products removed or substituted.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 3 09:11:41 2015 No.6201210 >>6201188 What do you even mean?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 3 09:17:33 2015 No.6201217 >>6201188 Figure of speech.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 3 09:42:23 2015 No.6201242 nothing get's /ck/s skidmarked tighties in more of a bunch than vegans. I love it.

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