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6115917 No.6115917 [Reply] [Original]

Is it true that Guinness is much better in Ireland?

>> No.6115921

I've had it in Ireland, the UK and the US, and it tastes better in the former two and like shit in the latter. I dunno what the US does to Guiness but it's a goddamn travesty.

>> No.6115931

Yes, very much so.
If you ever get the opportunity to visit Dublin - make sure to visit the brewery.

Sure, it's a tourist trap, but it sure as fuck feels good as shit standing in the sky bar overlooking Dublin in a 360 view holding your own god damn Guinness that you poured all by yourself.

>> No.6115933

>>6115921
It probably sat in a warehouse for who knows long somewhere during its journey

>> No.6115938

>>6115931
I've gone like 4 times just for that sky bar haha

>> No.6115939

>>6115933
>journey

You realize that guinness is made localy with local water and local indigrends, right? Of course the recepie is the same but of course it tastes differently in different places.

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>>6115921
Fair enough, I was interested because the first time I tried it was in Ireland on holiday a few days ago and I absolutely loved it. Until having it I thought I didn't like any sort of beer, but Guinness is incredibly easy to drink.

>>6115931
Yeah, that's literally where I was when I had it. Pic related, the one I pulled. It tasted really good. Me and my mates ended up spending about three hours in the pub they have there, listening to Irish folk music and getting drunk, in a museum. It felt wrong but so right.

I had Kilkenny Draught there too, which was also delicious. It tasted like a pint of cream.

>> No.6115945

>>6115938
It was way too busy when I went, unfortunately. We couldn't see out of the window or anything because of all the people.

Arthur's Bar was nicer anyway.

>> No.6115950

>>6115921
The Guinness in the US comes from Canada

>> No.6115973

Are there any other good stouts that people would recommend?

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>>6115973

>> No.6116019
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>>6116014
sorry wrong pic

>> No.6116031

>>6116019
I'll have a look for it, thanks.

There's quite a few pubs near me that do a wide variety of different ales apparently so I think I might give them a go. It's weird, having Guinness for the first time made me go from literally hating beer to loving it.

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>> No.6116073

>>6116051
Are those an American thing? Literally never seen them here. Guinness is thrown in to stews and casseroles a lot though.

>> No.6116082

>>6115973
Anything. Guinness sucks.

>> No.6116084

>>6116051
I...um...OK.

>> No.6116088

>>6116082
Maybe the shitty yank version

>> No.6116089

>>6116088
All of it.

>> No.6116094

>>6116089
Shite. It's good stuff, well made, consistently drinkable, and really smooth when done right.

You literally only dislike it because it's mainstream.

>> No.6116119

>>6116051
>america

>> No.6116148

>>6116089
The foreign extra stout is ok

There are a metric fuckton of amazing craft stouts in the US though so I don't really know why you'd bother getting guiness not-shitty version over old ras/founders/whatever

>> No.6116162

>>6116148
>Assuming everyone is American

>> No.6116167

>>6116094
You just described Budweiser. I don't like the stuff because it's an overpriced foreign Budweiser disguised as a stout. I'd rather just get another cheaper macro brew. If it's free though I'll take it.

>> No.6116234

>>6116167
So basically you're saying that it's shit everywhere because the shit NA version is shit?

Stupid. Also completely wrong. Comparing it to Budweiser is like comparing instant noodles to making a stir-fry.

>> No.6116237

>>6116051
I prefer vodka chips

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>> No.6116248

>>6116019

Their oatmeal stout is also good.

>> No.6116253

>>6116248
How the fuck does oatmeal stout work?

>> No.6116306

>>6116234.
I didn't say it tasted like Budweiser, I was just agreeing with you that it's drinkable, consistently average, and widely available. Guinness isn't the worst beer ever, it's just not a good stout. I don't care where you have it. I don't know why you're getting upset about a really mediocre beer.

>> No.6116313

>>6116306
Try it in Ireland.

>> No.6116326

It's nice served between 2 and 4 Celsius.

But it's alcohol so you really shouldn't drink it, its not even red wine.

>> No.6116329

>>6116313
I will if I ever go, but I assume it'll be just like when I had Dublin Dr. Pepper in Texas.
>"oh cool Dublin Dr. Pepper!"
>it still tastes like Dr. Pepper
> :^(

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>> No.6116354
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>> No.6116361

>>6116354
Looks like a cozy meal.

>> No.6116373

>>6115917

I'm from bongtown and I've only ever tried it here and in Dublin.

I thought I hated Guinness after trying it canned and from the tap a few times here in the UK. When I went to Dublin, though, people wouldn't shut the fuck up about "ooh you must try a pint of Guiness when you're there! It's much much better!"

Gave it a try, and yeah, it was fucking loads better in Ireland. I enjoyed it a lot.

>> No.6116374

>>6116253
you mash the oats with the barley

>> No.6116379

>>6116019
Their taddy porter is really damn good, as well.

>> No.6116382

>>6116354
>Double chocolate stout

Does it actually taste like chocolate?

>>6116373
That was pretty much what I expected too, and was really pleasantly surprised. It's the cheapest drink in Dublin too. Makes for a messy night after twelve of them too.

>> No.6116390

>>6115917
I've also found that yes, it really is for some reason. The American version tastes thin and sour. The Irish one is clearly better, a lot richer and maltier and nicer, so blatantly that I'm quite certain it can't be a placebo thing.

>> No.6116402

>>6116326
newer studies put beer above red wine, npr had an article on it last week.

>> No.6116416

There used to be a bar in Pittsburgh where the owner somehow got kegs of Guinness directly from Ireland somehow and it tasted ten times better than normal Guinness.

>> No.6116420

>>6116335
I love mah Murphys

>> No.6116428

>>6116402
I was talking to someone recently who said that they had lowered iron in their blood and their doctor recommended a pint of guinness a day.

>> No.6116481

>>6116402
>>6116428
..and then ck refuted the consensus

>> No.6116483

>>6116481
U wot?

>> No.6116492

>>6116483
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/is-wine-fine-or-beer-better/

>> No.6116508

>>6115917
Beer in the UK is quite different from beer in the U.S.
They are not required to pasteurize it, so it does not have to be refrigerated. In fact many beers in the UK are called "Real Ales" because they are served "the proper way" at cellar temperature, which is usually somewhere in the 45-55 degree (Fahrenheit) range.
I am a US citizen who has lived in the U.K. for some time, and I find that both ways are pretty legitimate, but I personally prefer the U.K. way myself. You can taste more flavor from a beer that is not ice cold.

>> No.6116521

>>6116382
Not him but it does, slightly.

>> No.6116525

>>6116508
You can buy unpasteurized beer in the U.S.

>> No.6116536

>>6116525
You've got to go out of your way to get it though.
I'm saying unpasteurized beer is the norm in UK, while it's the opposite in USA.

>> No.6116550

>>6116508

can you stop posting level headed and honest opinions

it feels weird seeing that on here

>> No.6116560

>>6116508
temperature is not the definition of a real ale
http://www.camra.org.uk/about-real-ale
but youre right about pasturization

i love touring pubs in the uk looking for new ales....

>> No.6116569

>>6116536
Idk I can go to pretty much any liquor store around here and find a good couple that aren't. I also live near a major city so that helps.
I thought most craft shit wasn't pasteurized though? I've never looked into it really.

>> No.6116579

>>6116560
>AMRA's Key Campaigns
>4 To raise the profile of pub-going and increase the number of people using pubs regularly
Wow that's degenerate.

>> No.6116591

>>6116579
You clearly don't understand what it means then. It's actually the exact opposite of what you seem to think. Cheap beer from supermarkets has made people binge drinking from shop bought drinks become much bigger than it ever used to be, which in turn has led to less people going to pubs. Which has led to less responsible social drinking, more alcohol abuse, and a lot of pubs shutting down as people don't visit them as much.

Or in other words go fuck yourself as you really don't understand what CAMRA is and you're probably a Yank.

>> No.6116596

>>6116579
most pubs in uk arent murrican style city bars theyre often centres of a community in a small town or village and often struggle financially.... whats degenerate about promoting them......do you have no will power, can you not go to a bar without getting absolutely smashed
i pity you...

>> No.6116608

>>6116569
i thought all american craft beer is always pastuerised

>> No.6116614

>>6115917

As an Irishman I'll confirm that it even varies greatly from establishment to establishment here, and I've never had a top notch pint of the stuff anywhere outside this country. I had some when I was in Boston and was thoroughly offended.

>> No.6116621

>>6116579
No, you don't understand.
In UK the pubs are like Starbucks.
People go there to meet their friends and have a drink and just chill out for a bit.
They don't go there and drink till they're smashed every day.
The drinking culture is different from American drinking culture, where most of the time people are drinking to get drunk, not just to socialize.

"Pub' is literally short for "Public House" which stems from medieval times, when the Pub was a friendly meeting place for the whole community, and people would come bring their dinner, cook it on the fire, and drink some ale as they ate and talked together.

It's not about being drunk, it's about being social.

>> No.6116624

>>6116596
>whats degenerate about promoting them

Nothing.

But generally speaking, when people want to encourage others to visit drinking establishments it creates the worry of a bunch of idiots getting completely pissed and then causing a bunch of harm.

It's not about what oneself might do, it's about what others might do.

For example, I'm not from the UK. But I've heard a lot about problems with hooliganism and drunkeness in general in the UK--football hooliganism and what do you call them...Chaves or something like that? Encouraging people to visit the pub sounds like it would encourage that sort of thing.

>> No.6116632

>>6116621
>The drinking culture is different from American drinking culture

So why do I always read on the news about all sorts of drunken shenanigans in England? Or is that somehow separate from Pubs?

>> No.6116640

>>6116608
I think some is, but it's not hard to find stuff that isn't. I know a lot of Bell's shit is unpasteurized

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>>6116624
>football hooliganism
Yeah it's related to football, not to going to pubs.
Just stop dude, please, this is not even worth arguing over.
You're ignorant and you just need to do a little more research before you form a valid opinion about this subject.

>> No.6116655

>>6116641
>You're ignorant

No shit. That's why I'm ASKING, not arguing with you.

Anyway, thanks for the explanation. I didn't realize the football thing was distinct from pub culture.

>> No.6116657
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Irishfag here. The thing with Guiness is that you're either gonna get a perfect pint or a glass of complete rancid muck.
Only ever get a Guiness if it's served regularly and one of the more active taps (so pretty much auld man pubs), and at the start of the week when it's actually moving around the pipes instead of sitting in em.

Pic related is THE place to go for the black stuff. The sky bar in the Guiness Storehouse that others mentioned does a shit pint cos it has to travel so fucking far up to the taps

>> No.6116659

>>6116632
you believe the media flatly.....

why do i always read about morbidly fat americans...... are you all fat...... no i thought not

>> No.6116666

>>6116659
>you believe the media flatly.....

No, I'm asking a question. That's what the question marks are for. Seriously, I admit I know nothing about this. I am seeking an explanation.

>> No.6116669

>>6116632
>Drinking culture in america, going to a bar
-Single People looking to meet other single people
-Hookup culture
-Shots Shots Shots Shots!
-Loud Music
-It's basically a party
-Some unlucky person has to be the designated driver because everyone else is determined to get shit faced.
-Bars open until 2:00am

>UK drinking culture, going to a pub
-Have a couple beers
-Just chilling with your buds
-Business meetings take place at the local pub
-No one goes too crazy. It's just a part of everyday life.
-Pub closes at midnight or sooner

This is not to say that people in the UK don't get drunk, or that there is no hookup culture in UK. But in general it's just different.

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>>6116657
Also as far as other stouts go, O'Hara's Leann Folláin Extra Stout is the fucking biz

>> No.6116671

>>6116669
>Drinking culture in america, going to a bar
-Single People looking to meet other single people
-Hookup culture
-Shots Shots Shots Shots!
-Loud Music
-It's basically a party
-Some unlucky person has to be the designated driver because everyone else is determined to get shit faced.
-Bars open until 2:00am

This is pretty much Ireland now too

>> No.6116677

>>6116624
>Encouraging people to visit the pub sounds like it would encourage that sort of thing.

It's the exact fucking opposite you mong. If you're in a "drinking establishment" you are usually held to standards in as much as you'll get refused any more if you get too drunk. If you drink on a street with cheap supermarket alcohol you can get blind drunk with nobody to tell you otherwise.

>> No.6116696

>>6116669
Thanks for at least attempting a rational discussion. I appreciate it.

But that being said, I disagree with the first part. I've lived in the US for nearly 30 years now. And during that time I've been to a lot of bars. One thing I've learned is that there really isn't much consistency between them. There's your crazy-active young crowd bars (yay! shots again!). Hookup joints. Small-town joints that are more like a restaurant than a bar. There's sports bars. Biker bars. Other biker bars where there is guaranteed trouble for walking in with the wrong skin color and/or the wrong motorcycle. There's everything from cheap dives to upscale places where men would be out of place if not wearing a full 3-pc suit or a tux. Not every American bar is a shot-assembly-line for drunken frat boys.

>> No.6116702

>>6116666
you read about drunken shenanigens because drinking is ingrained in british culture
pubs are not separated from boozing and debauchery however, like any drinking establishment ppl get drunk in em
however i would say that city centre pubs n bars rather than your idyllic village green pub are where most of the youth binge drinking on a weekend happens, causing mayhem, which is what you read about in the papers

>> No.6116705

>>6116657
Personally, I found the pint in the Guinness Storehouse was good (doing the self-pulling), better than some of the smaller pubs that I went to.

Then again it was quite busy, so the taps had been running really regularly.

>> No.6116708

>>6116492
one I was referring to. http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/12/31/374187472/if-youre-toasting-for-health-beer-may-be-a-good-bet

>> No.6116711

>>6116677
>you are usually held to standards in as much as you'll get refused any more if you get too drunk.

Yes, but isn't that standard well past what one might consume during a casual evening with friends?

In the US they refuse alcohol to people who appear overly intoxicated too. Serving alcohol to customers who are obviously intoxicated is a serious criminal charge to the person who served the alcohol. But that doesn't stop some bar-goers from turning into drunken louts.

>> No.6116715

>>6116591
>>6116596
>>6116621
>>6116624
So basically it's degenerate plebeian trash? Like I said.

>> No.6116719

>>6116711
You clearly are wilfully not trying to listen to what people are saying about the difference in the culture around drinking so I'm not even going to bother trying to explain it to you.

Suffice it to say the place we go to for a casual evening drink with friends is THE FUCKING PUB.

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>>6116715
Just fuck off m8. And certainly never come to the British Isles.

>> No.6116726

>>6115917
guinness is shit anywhere you go, thats just a rumor to trick you into buying it more than once

>oh, it only tastes like shit because of where you drank it, buy another one and you'll see

>> No.6116735

>>6116696
That's probably quite true, but it's again where things differ. Pretty much every pub in the UK is a comfortable establishment for having a couple of pints.

>> No.6116741

>>6115917
Well, I'm born and raised in Ireland - and Guinness is the only thing I drink. So I'll give you the low down on this from the point of view of us in Ireland drinking the stuff. I've also been lucky enough to have traveled extensively, including most of the US.

Even in the the area I live, people who drink Guinness are so particular about it - we will know the exact bars that serve the best Guinness.

The simple answer is that it is an extremely temperamental drink. There are many factors which affect its taste and quality - so it is very hard to get right.

Unfortunately, one of these factors, which you'll hear Irish people say a lot, is that "Guinness does not travel well". This is true both in very small scale, and very large scale. For example, bars that serve the best Guinness, tend to traditionally house the keg as close to the tap as physically possible. When the Guinness does not have to travel down the pipe very far, its best. For optimum taste, it calls for minimum keg to tap distance.

On a large scale, Guinness that has to be exported, will be adversely effected as the Guinness is sitting in the keg for a longer than desired time frame and it is being transported.

Another factor which people in this country swear by, is how busy the Guinness is in a bar. For example, if you go into a bar that has very few Guinness drinkers - its most likely going to be shit. You'll often hear people referring to "how well the Guinness is flowing". Once a keg is tapped, that Guinness needs to flow quickly - the longer the tapped keg sits there, the more stale it becomes. A bar well known for good Guinness will have many people in there drinking it, and the keg will be flowing fast - and kegs will be changed quickly.

Continued in next post....

>> No.6116743

>>6115917
... continued...
For these reasons, I almost never drink kegs in Nightclubs - some of these clubs only open at the weekends, so your Guinness has been lying in the keg and pipes for a whole week. Disgusting.

Speaking of pipes. Another factor a good Guinness bar will pride themselves in, is maintanaince. Pipes need to be cleaned regularly. Good Guinness bars care about this, and it shows in the taste. Poor systems also don't chill the draught Guinness to the optimum standard. As well as clean pipes - a really good Guinness bar will tell you that even the Glass effects the Guinness. Even at home, I have a few glasses I use only for Guinness. The worst thing you could do to this glass is use it for milk. I am not sure how scientifically valid this is, but its what they all say.

How can you tell you have a good Guinness? A good one will be very smooth. If there is an strong burnt or bitter taste, its a poor one. The better, the less bitter, less burnt the flavour. The better it is the creamier and more 'malt' tasting it will be. Also, if there are lots of bubbles in the head of a freshly poured Guinness, its a poor one. With that being said, there is a whole art in the pouring. Never accept a Guinness in a bar that has poured it in one stage. A pint needs to be 3/4 poured, allowed to settle for 5 mins at least, then topped up.

One of the best ways to tell a good Guinness is if the head of it has stuck to the glass all the way down as its drunk, so the empty glass has this risidue covering the sides.

Hope this helps!

>> No.6116746

>>6116719
>Suffice it to say the place we go to for a casual evening drink with friends is THE FUCKING PUB.

I already got that. Thanks. I'm not disagreeing with you, you answered my first question so now we're moving on:

I am asking you a new question related to the discussion: Does the "sorry sir, you've had enough" policy work well in England? Here in the US not so much.

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>>6116726
Wrong boyo

>> No.6116755

>>6116741
>>6116743
Thanks for this, it was really interesting and gave me a different perspective on things.

Though one thing I would say is that you're going over what the Guinness people say, their marketing in the museum said that you should leave it to settle for "119.5 seconds". Either way, I'll bear all that in mind for when I next get one.

>>6116746
>Does the "sorry sir, you've had enough" policy work well in England? Here in the US not so much.

It's barely a thing as it's rare you'll see a bloke down the pub who has reached that stage. It's more of a concern for bars (which we do have) and clubs. Bars and clubs are seen as the drink-to-excess places, whereas pubs really aren't.

Either way, the once or twice I've seen it happen it hasn't been a problem, people just accept it and go home.

>> No.6116760

>>6116755
Sure, I am telling you 'what people say'. But I am also tellign you that from my vast experience - there is definitely fact in some if not all of this!

>> No.6116765

>>6116760
I'll absolutely keep it in mind then. One question I would have is why only Guinness though? Haven't you tried other things?

>> No.6116770

>>6116755
>It's more of a concern for bars (which we do have)

First off, thanks for the sane reply.

And second, I think what you just posted is the key to this whole f'in argument. A lot of people from the outside looking in see "pub" as a synoynm for "bar". Pub = Bar, Lift=Elevator, Skip = Dumpster, and so on. Explaining that even in England a "pub" and a "bar" are two different things is an important distinction to make.

>> No.6116771

>>6116754
Bloody Sunday anyone?
>is that yee Bobby Sands?
I'll pay for the kebabs, bring Gerry and Martin with you.

>> No.6116776

>>6116765

Of course. Especially the years following when I first started drinking. I just came to the conclusion that most beers are not for me. When you find your alcoholic preference, and you start to really enjoy it, eventually you don't bother with the rest. Of course I still occassionally might have a beer - like if I'm eating mexican or spicy food I like a beer. But in a bar Guinness is all I bother with. At home I drink red wine the most though. The cans of Guinness are no where near as good at all - but I get them occasionally for drinks at home too.

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>>6116776
Fair enough. I mainly ask because I have literally only just found a taste for ales and it was Guinness that made me convert. I tried a Kilkenny Draught and a Smithwicks Ale and they were both nice as well though, as was a Guinness "Dublin Porter" that I tried. I'm just trying to work out if it's all the same type of thing that I liked or if I might just finally have a taste for the stuff.

Either way, Ireland does some damn good drinks.

>> No.6116837

>>6116770

In england you call the establisments pubs/clubs/nightclubs

You don't really call the building a bar, you call the area where drinks are served the bar.

Pubs are for socialising but with drinks often alcoholic in nature provided, if you got drunk at a pub you'd be the odd one out.

Clubs/nightclubs are where people get drunk and wind up in sleazy tabloid newspapers, loud music, disgustingly dressed slags, all of that degenerate shit is found in nightclubs.

>> No.6116848

>>6116837
>if you got drunk at a pub you'd be the odd one out.

Kind of, but also not really. It's more about getting to state of cheerful drunkenness.

>> No.6116861

>>6116837

Right on; I suppose an equivalent in the US for pub would be "bar and grill". That is an establishment that does serve alcohol, but also food, and has a more social atmosphere. Nobody goes to a place like that to get hammered.

Bar/club would be fairly synonomous, except of course for the non-drinking activities. A "club" has a dance floor. A bar usually does not have a dance floor/ Bars may or may not have things like billiards tables, darts, shuffleboard, etc.

>> No.6116866

>>6116861
While we're on the topic, why do Americans need so many drinking games? Why don't you just drink for drinking's sake like every other country?

>> No.6116870

>>6116866
Not him, but drinking games can be pretty fun. Plenty of us still drink for drinking's sake too though.

>> No.6116895

>>6116870
There's no doubt they can be fun, I just don't get the obsession with them. Especially since some take so much preparation and effort like Beer pong, and you barely even get to drink much.

I did flip cup a while ago with some American tourists, and they were filling the cups up only a tiny bit. All I could think was that if this was done by British people you'd be expected to down a pint before flipping it.

>> No.6116909

>>6116866
>need so many drinking games

6116861 here. I think that's a regional or perhaps generational thing. I went to college in the late 90's/early 2000's. Drinking games were rare. Normally it was just hang around and drink. Every once in a while you'd see a drinking game at a party but it wasn't a common thing. Nowadays I see all that "beer pong" stuff in the local supermarkets, whereas it was virtually unheard of (in my circle, anyway) a decade ago.

>> No.6116949

>>6116895
If you had to down a full pint before flipping everybody would be completely trashed after a few rounds.

>> No.6116956

>>6116949
Exactly my point.

>> No.6117044

>>6116956
I mean if you want people puking all over the place then sure do flip cup with a full pint.

>> No.6117056

>>6115950
This is true, that is why its so awful.

If you want good Guinness buy the Foreign Extra variety, thatls shipped over here and tastes like you have a fresh set of tastes buds

>> No.6117143

>>6116608
Having worked at a growler shop, let me tell you, those craft beers are nearly never pasteurized.

Had to snake a yeast growth out of the drain on more than one occasion.

>> No.6117733

>>6117044
Damn, I'm glad I don't hang out with the kind of lightweights that would be vomiting shitfaced because they had to chug a full pint during a couple matches of fucking flip cup.

>> No.6117740
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6117740

Is Boddingtons considered good or shit in UK?

>> No.6117780

>>6116837
>You don't really call the building a bar
Baa Bar

And there are places like spoons where people get routinely hammered

>> No.6117997

>>6116669
there's a difference between neighborhood bars, nightclubs, and dive bars

Granted, we don't have nearly the density of neighborhood bars that you do, but they exist.
It's just that people here tend to do that at restaurants that have full bars here instead.
I blame prohibition, mostly.

>> No.6118046

>>6117733
Generally people playing flip cup at a party are already drunk. If they go and chug 4-5 full pints in like a 15-20 minute span, I'm pretty sure somebody is gonna puke.

>> No.6118430

>>6117780
Spoons is that weird inbetween. It works as both though, I'd say. On a friday or saturday you can get hammered, but you can get nicely drunk on a work night.

>> No.6118448

>>6116579
>>6116715
>degenerate
Shouldn't you be on /mu/ circlejerking over Minor Threat?

>> No.6118485

>>6116837
>disgustingly dressed slags,

You know you love the slappers

>> No.6118508

Thinking of doing a good Guinness stew. Any recommendations?

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>>6115950

I visited the US in '03 (from Aus) and was astounded by how much Fosters advertising there was - especially billboards. Saw some in a store and got a good chuckle from the "fully imported" right before "from Canada". Never tried it though.

Will say against stereotype, the one time I've had Fosters on tap? Not bad at all, there are just plenty of better local beers.

Back to when stateside, I did have some cans of Guinness with the grommet in them and it was better than any Guinness I've had here.

In closing, other than a batch of milk stout I made in my youth, pic related is my all time favourite stout. Creamy, slightly burnt, spend a night on it and expect demonshits the next day.

>> No.6118640

>>6116669
That's really only the young 20 something drinking scene (except the 2:00 AM bit).

>> No.6118707

I went to Ireland in the 80s with my mum who loves Guinness and what they had there was so much more creamy. Although I heard that EU regulations had caused that to change and now it's pretty much the same all over Europe