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6110521 No.6110521 [Reply] [Original]

ITT: Post dishes from your country/state and we try to guess where you're from.

I'll start on easy mode.

>> No.6110523

>>6110521
Britain?

>> No.6110525

>>6110523
lolno

>> No.6110527

>>6110523
Lame bait

>> No.6110528

>>6110521
LA

>> No.6110534

>>6110528
/thread

Name something you cannot get in the United States.

inb4
>hurrdurrkinderegg

>> No.6110542
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>>6110534

>> No.6110545

>>6110534
Khash or kale pache

>> No.6110565

>>6110542
>>6110534
Done and done.

Do you really think we cannot get everything we want?

>> No.6110573

>>6110565
i do really think that you won't find the same quality of weißwurst, bavarian pretzel or weißbier in the us as in and around munich, yes.

>> No.6110578

>>6110565
Getting something and getting a cheap imitation loaded with hfcs and preservatives is a completely different matter.

>> No.6110579

>>6110573
Thats true. The american versions are better

>> No.6110581

>>6110573
Keep trying

>> No.6110586

>>6110579
>>6110581
b8/10

feel free to come over here and try the real thing.

>> No.6110587

>>6110578
>imitation
>implying half of your shitblood and it's culture isn't over her already
Keep trying

>> No.6110592

>>6110586
>sausage
>pretzels
>beer
Wow, what a glorious food culture

>> No.6110593

>>6110586
See:
>>6110587
What's different? The water? We can buy that

>> No.6110609

>>6110592
keep on being insulting when nobody insulted your food culture. if you actually think you can get authentic niche food from all over the world in the us, you are delusional. weißbier you can get but not the best ones (because they don't get exported). pretzel's are a stretch but probably are getting made by a few people with dedication. weißwurst i just don't see, it's an extremely local dish. you'd have a hard time finding a good one outside of upper bavaria, let alone in america.

vice versa, i don't think that the amalgamation of different immigrant cultures (keyword immigrant, not foreign) is a bad thing. i think it's very interesting and i'd love to take part in it one day.

>> No.6110644

>>6110592
>Insulting German food
It is like you have never even been to a German restaurant. I have never met a person who went to a good German restaurant and didn't come back saying it was great. And I am sure it isn't nearly as great as actually going to a good restaurant in Germany. Germany is one of the good European countries anyway, why not pick on Italy or Greece or anywhere in Eastern Europe if you want an easy time flinging shit?

>> No.6110650

>>6110644
>german food better than italian food
Topkek

>> No.6110671

no pic but cow heart, onions, copious amounts of beer, poverty.
(spoiler/ albania /spoiler)

>> No.6110682

>>6110650
>italian food
The biggest joke of them all

>> No.6110686
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Noise added to fuck up reverse image searching

>> No.6110688
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>>6110521

>> No.6110700

>>6110682
I know right, "muh sauce", "muh pasta"

All they ever do is argue whose mother makes the best sauce.

>> No.6110709
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6110709

>> No.6110721

>>6110709
Shitcago

>> No.6110735
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6110735

Rape, american style.

>> No.6110755

>>6110721
anon's got some fine food location

>> No.6110768
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6110768

>>6110735
I love rape, but I think we mean different things. ;-)

>> No.6110779

>>6110650
I didn't mention Italy's food, just the country as a whole. It doesn't take a genius to know that Italy's economy is horrible, I thought mentioning it along with Greece made it obvious.

>> No.6110785

>>6110779
What does that have to do with food?

>> No.6110815
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>> No.6110830
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>>6110815
Turkey (It doesn't look thick enough to be Greek Tzatziki. It looks like Cacık)
>>6110709
Chicago
>>6110688
Louisiana/somewhere in the southern U.S.
>>6110686
France?
>>6110542
Germany (obviously)
>>6110521
India/southern Asia?

>> No.6110835

>>6110830
>India/southern Asia

>> No.6110842

>>6110830
>Hey guis, I made a sandwich out of a shitty plantain

Let's guess Colombia

>> No.6110849

>>6110815
That's some lovely tarator you've got there, Ottoman scum. I dunno which former Ottoman country you're from, though. It's eaten all over.

>> No.6110858
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6110858

>> No.6110934

Objectively the best soup in western culture

>> No.6110935

>>6110858
Jew York

>> No.6110938
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>>6110934
oops

>> No.6110943

>>6110938
I'd say wedding soup is the best.

>> No.6110962
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>> No.6111028
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6111028

No cheating.

>> No.6111043

>>6110842
>>6110830
Humboldt Park, Chicago.

>> No.6111045

>>6110935
Yup, you got me

>> No.6111051

>>6110938
taxachusetts

>> No.6111054

>>6111028
venezuela?

got something that looked like them, split and filled with cheese.

>> No.6111055
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6111055

Shit is almost better than sex

>> No.6111056

>>6111028
Connecticunt? Those look like johnny cakes

>> No.6111062

>>6111056
>>6111054
Nah guys, they begin with "P" and are from a small country, so not the USA nor Venezuela.

>> No.6111068

>>6111062
Easy as fuck its pupusas fuck sedotes

>> No.6111069

>>6111028
El Salvador

>> No.6111071

>>6111069
>>6111068
That's it m80s

>> No.6111072
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>>6110521

>> No.6111074

>>6111072
Chicharon? Fried pork skins am i right

>> No.6111082

>>6111074
Yup, from Colombia

>> No.6111083
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6111083

No cheating!

>> No.6111085
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6111085

NO BEANS, NO POTATOES

>> No.6111089

>>6110686
sweden?

>> No.6111092

>>6111085
Hungary

>> No.6111100

>>6111055
that place full of mexicans...
spain

>> No.6111102

>>6111083
blighty

>> No.6111105

>>6111083
india? looks like chickpeas on naan

>> No.6111108

>>6111083
Looks like diarea and vomit

>> No.6111109

>>6111083
DOUBLES
i didn't think of would ever see trini food of ck

>> No.6111116

>>6111109
Ding ding ding

>> No.6111124

Someone got the sex
>>6111111

>> No.6111153
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6111153

no cheating please

>> No.6111177

>>6111153
greece?

>> No.6111183

>>6111177
nope

>> No.6111212

>>6111153
Di dove sei?

>> No.6111216

>>6111212
cesenate

>> No.6111232

>>6110849
Bulgaria!
Good guess.

>> No.6111258

>>6111232
So basically the Ottoman Empire, then.

>> No.6111268

>>6111153
Holland?

>> No.6111274
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6111274

Guess

>> No.6111275

>>6111268
see >>6111212 and >>6111216

>> No.6111278

>>6111258
Yes, I was telling you that you did well.

>> No.6111283

>>6111153
italy
>>6111085
texas
>>6111083
india
>>6111072
someplace in the south...
>>6111055
Mexico
>>6111028
New Hampshire
>>6110962
UK
>>6110938
Massachusetts
>>6110858
NYC

>> No.6111284

>>6111274
Haven't a clue but I'd like to be there, wherever it is. I'm going to guess Missouri just for shits and giggles.

>>6111278
I'm the one that said "former Ottoman country" in >>6110849. I don't know what >>6111258 aims to do.

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6111289

mmmm

>> No.6111313

>>6111289
>coconut shavings
>on green balls of some sort
I can only guess this is some Desi/Deshi dessert. Bengali?

>> No.6111326

>>6111289
albania

>> No.6111337

>>6111313
If it was Indian, it would be coconut shavings on faeces.

>> No.6111343
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6111343

Absolutely disgusting that this is all we have

>> No.6111348
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6111348

>>6111343
canada

>> No.6111357

>>6111348
Washington. Close enough

>> No.6111376

>>6110671

What do they do with the rest of the cow?

>> No.6111383

>>6111376
They bugger the asshole as a dead bull is more attractive than their wives.

>> No.6111404
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>> No.6111406

>>6111404
It looks almost radioactive, must be Ukrainian.

>> No.6111415

>>6111404
your from Bears: The Country

>> No.6111425

>>6111404
Looks cold. Gonna guess Lithuania.

>> No.6112160

>>6111089
yes, picture is kroppkakor

>> No.6112162

>>6111404
Voodo and sauce?
portland?

>> No.6112175

>>6111404
Borscht? Dat be ukraine. I'm from the UK, we had some at xmas. I wuv it.

>> No.6112186
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Guuuueeesssss

>> No.6112208

>>6112186
>filename
Sauerbraten?

>> No.6112214

>>6110523
>>6110830
how can one not recognize gumbo

>> No.6112236
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6112236

Guess

>> No.6112240
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6112240

>>6110521
Had this for lunch yesterday.

>> No.6112245

>>6112236
spaetzl?
Holy shit you Germans have maybe 5 dishes?

>> No.6112256

>>6112240
ploughmans...why is that apple a tomato?

>> No.6112259

>>6112240
British.

>> No.6112273
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6112273

>> No.6112278

>>6112273
cream flange puffamuffs?

>> No.6112280

>>6112278
Wat?

>> No.6112288

>>6112280
cum hat cream poofs?

>> No.6112293

>>6110830
Denmark

>> No.6112297

>>6112236
Germany, Austria, Hungary... whatever.

>> No.6112304
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6112304

Nobody will guess this.

>> No.6112339
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6112339

>>6112256
Yes and regional variations.

>>6112259
English to be exact.

>> No.6112373 [DELETED] 

>>6112304

america. that's impossible cheeseburger pie.

>> No.6112376

>>6112304
Looks Maltese.

>>6112175
Do Ukrainians serve it cold? I thought only Lithuanians did that.

>> No.6112388

>>6112304
Either Greece or Bulgaria

>> No.6112455
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6112455

That one's a bit hard I guess, but you might figure it out

>> No.6112459

>>6112339
>that made up fictional "meal"

You are a tool of the marketers.

>> No.6112481

>>6112455
Mudbugs? Louisiana.

>> No.6112485 [DELETED] 

>>6112339
Why do the english lose their shit over this? It is literally an overpriced, bourgeois lunchable for adults. You guys go on and on about how your food scene is so much better than everyone says it is, and yet, you hype up an adult lunchable...the only conclusion I can come to is that you lot just aren't that bright.

>> No.6112489

>>6112485
There isn't a hint of curry anywhere. I'd be stoked too

>> No.6112492

>>6112481
Nah. The filename is just random, not from Louisiana or the US whatsoever

>> No.6112494
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6112494

>>6111085
My Texan nigga

>> No.6112508

>>6112485
It's delicious, simple and cheap. I don't know why you think it's overpriced or bourgeois.

>> No.6112511 [DELETED] 

>>6112508
>Britbong being triggered

>> No.6112514

>>6112485
>overpriced
>bourgeois

Mate, the ploughmans is pubgrub. It's cheap and delicious as fuck. Maybe in the shithole known as London it is overpriced but that's why London is a shithole.

>> No.6112520 [DELETED] 

>>6112514
>Our sole meritorious contribution to the culinary world is a glorified lunchable and I will defend it to the death!
No wonder you guys lost india to a vegetarian in a diaper that never picked up a weapon. What a bunch of poofs.

>> No.6112528
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>> No.6112536
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>>6112520

>> No.6112544

>>6112536

Oh oh! Pick me pick me pick me! Ad hominem?

>> No.6112550

>>6112528
Kimchi,Korea

>> No.6112629

It's dessert. A holiday one too. Those are raisins btw.

>> No.6112633
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6112633

>>6112629
sorry, pic related. Hating the captchas.

>> No.6112636

>>6112304
Spain. South America or maybe PR, it looks like pastelon to me. Does it have eggs?

>> No.6112641

>>6112240
Looks like a 15th century wealthy mans meal.

>> No.6112644

>>6111404
Russia.

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6112661

try this

>> No.6112665

>>6112661
Is that beef in some kind of black bean sauce? I was going to say some asian country but then >long grained rice

>> No.6112668
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6112668

>>6112633
>rice pudding

Has to be Britain again.

>> No.6112672

>>6112485
How is something that was originally eaten only by lower class farm workers bourgeois?
It's been taken to an extreme in some urban areas where they charge you 5 times the price and serve it on some wonky board. That's less common than people buying cheese, bread, an apple and some onions and eating it picnic style.

>> No.6112674

>>6112672
also forgot
>>>/int/

>> No.6112675

>>6112661
Can't tell if that's rawon (and therefore Indomuhnesian food) or Taiwanese beef soup.

>> No.6112690

>>6112675
>>6112665

Yes it's rawon (Indonesia)
Basically beef soup, using this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangium_edule)) to make it black.

>> No.6112696

>>6110521
Throw up island

>> No.6112698

>>6112696
>LOOK I MADE LE POOPY VOMIT JOKE
>teeheeeheeeee
XD

>> No.6112706

>>6112665
>what japan and korea do is representative of all of asia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasmine_rice

>> No.6112738
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6112738

>>6110521

>> No.6112780

>>6112304
poortugal

>> No.6112810
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Where's the best place in the world to get a bad tamale?
>>6112738
>filename

>> No.6112811
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>Tfw most my nation hates fish.

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>>6112810
>tamale

>> No.6112826
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6112826

It's mainly a christmas dish. Let's see.

>> No.6112832

>>6112820
I'm gonna take a guess. You think it's called a tamal?
>peoplewhodon'tspeakenglish.gif

>> No.6112834

>>6112820
Jajajaja he doesn't habla espanol! What a puto! Am I right, ese?

>> No.6112844

>>6112810
chicago, duh

>> No.6112851

>>6112186
The Netherlands?

>> No.6112855

>>6112826
Deep fried baby reindeer antlers?

North Pole?

>> No.6112860

>>6110521
Going to Louisiana for work in a few weeks, gonna get some of this. The food is the only redeeming quality of that state.

>> No.6112904

>>6112832
>english
>tamal

>>6112834

You don't have to learn the whole language. People don't seem to have any trouble with saying "saag" instead of "spinach", so what's the problem with this one word? Tamales are not a new thing if you live in north america.

>> No.6112910

>>6112851
Germany. The dish is called "Sauerbraten (the meat) mit Klößen (the round things :D)"

>> No.6112911

>>6112904
You are lost in your argument.

>> No.6112917

>>6112455
Dis one looks DE-LI-CIOUS!!!

I can't guess soooo: SPAIN!

Pls. tell me where it is from and what the name of the dish is ^^

>> No.6112918

>>6112904
>he thinks 'saag' means spinach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>laughingpunjabigirls.png

>> No.6112924

>>6110858
Nebraska

>>6110935
>>6111283
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuben_sandwich
NYC might have had a sandwich named Reuben, but they don't have solid proof what was on that thing. And "sources" remove the majority of the traditional reuben sandwich ingredients. So fuck off.

>> No.6112957

>>6112738
Ayyyyye Detroit me too

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>> No.6113102

>>6112860
The music is also good.

>> No.6113121

>>6111092
>>6112494
>>6111283
All so very wrong.
It's Brunswick stew. The real jawja kind, not that nasty Yankee Virginia shit

>> No.6113248

>>6112214
I have never seen gumbo that pretentious in my life... the little fucking mountain of rice in the middle with the frou frou nigger faggot plant topping. That shit is eaten on a bed of rice. Whoever made that plate needs to have their shit slapped and their tits boiled. My uncles would beat their wives if they handed them a plate like that.

>> No.6113257

>>6112304
That looks like your basic casserole you could find anywhere in the midwest, not sure if some fancy-fag country has a different name for it, but its a fucking casserole

>> No.6113261

>>6112492
>Dish is not from the US
>Dish involves species of animal native only to north america

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hard one.

>> No.6113274

>>6112304
Looks like minnesota hot dish shite

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>> No.6113286

>>6113266
Polish people are cool. Happy Christmas, by the way.

>> No.6113288
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6113288

locals only

>> No.6113289

>>6113266
That looks like a purse filled with cream cheese.

>> No.6113309

>>6113289
Pretty much. It's a traditional dish of the Polish vigil (Christmas Eve dinner) along with a bunch of other fish-based dishes. It's rolmops.

>> No.6113314

>>6113288
great, now I want some beignets and am nowhere near any place that makes good ones

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6113318

>>6113314
:3

>> No.6113321

>>6113314
Where're ya, then? I thought beignet to be pretty much universal. Anywhere with internet access should have beignet somewhere nearby, no?

>> No.6113329

>>6113321
MS. You'd think there'd be some restaurants around here that could make them right, being so close to LA, but nope. Not near where I live anyway

>> No.6113346

>>6113321
They're only good in LA. Hence the "locals only"

>> No.6113350

>>6113329
Wow, yeah, I /am/ surprised. Not even Chinese or Viet-style beignet?
In live in the northeast and damned near every Chinese corner take out joint sells them here.

>> No.6113355

>>6113350
>Chinese or Viet-style
that's...not a beignet then

>> No.6113357
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6113357

Those are not honeycomb pieces.

>> No.6113359

>>6113357
trypophobia

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Uploading from my phone. Hope the filename doesn't fuck up!

>> No.6113375

>>6113355
Honestly, there's not too much a difference other than the shape and the sort of sugar used. It's still choux pastry. It's still deep-fried. But beignet are little square pillows and the Chinese ones are either circular, like a typical doughnut, or stick shaped, like a churro. And Chinese ones use table sugar.
If you can't get the proper stuff, the Chinese might be a decent substitute?
Trying to help a fellow lover of fried deliciousness.

>> No.6113386

>>6112240
Why do all British plates look like someone just assembled the ingredients of a meal and said "Fuck it, I'm spent."?

>> No.6113391

>>6112494
NC here, texas barbecue a shit.

>> No.6113403

>>6113359
Tripeophobia

>> No.6113407

>>6113361
Netherland?

>> No.6113408

>>6113403
>Tripeophobia
Tripe is shite, m8. The only people who like that are tryhards.

>> No.6113410

>>6113375
Chinese restaurants here are limited to buffets, which are terrible, and I've never seen anything resembling beignets there. The Vietnamese population is more prominent, though, but it never even crossed my mind to look for beignets at any of their restaurants/stores. If anything, I know how to make them, I just don't have the ingredients right now. Thanks, though

>> No.6113426

>>6113408
Indeed, all those poor tryhards

>> No.6113428

>>6113283
Is that some spekkoek?

>> No.6113437

>>6113426
If poor people are eating tripe, it sure isn't because they like it.....

>> No.6113519
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>> No.6113547

>>6113519
i do this all the time.

>> No.6113548

>>6113519

Easy. Finland.

>> No.6113555

>>6113407
Bingo! Hutspot.. I don't like it one bit though..

>> No.6113586

>>6111289
Green tea mochi ball with coconut? So maybe Japan or somewhere close?

>> No.6113621

>>6113357
Tripe? No idea where.

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6113647

guess

>> No.6113650

>>6112917
alright. It is "Leipziger Allerlei" from Saxony, Germany. Nowadays you will get a bastardized version of this, but that's the orginal recipe.

>> No.6113653

>>6110534
Haggis :v

Poor devil! see him owre his trash,
As feckles as wither'd rash,
His spindle shank, a guid whip-lash;
His nieve a nit;
Thro' blody flood or field to dash,
O how unfit!

But mark the Rustic, haggis-fed,
The trembling earth resounds his tread.
Clap in his walie nieve a blade,
He'll mak it whissle;
An' legs an' arms, an' hands will sned,
Like taps o' trissle.

>> No.6113800

>>6113026
That a Hot Brown!?