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Anonymous Wed Dec 17 20:36:10 2014 No.6070101 [Reply] [Original]

I want to get into Coffee. Would this be a decent starter grinder/coffee maker combo?

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001804CLY/
http://www.amazon.com/Aerobie-AeroPress-Coffee-Espresso-Maker/dp/B0047BIWSK

Also, general coffee thread.

Anonymous Wed Dec 17 20:41:56 2014 No.6070113

Yes, those are both fine to start with.

Learn how to make Aeropress coffee a few ways and find the one you enjoy.

The most important thing is the beans, a $300 grinder and $4,000 espresso machine are not going to turn your $10 jumbo sized Walmart beans into a good cup.

Find some local roasters, if you live in the middle of nowhere, there are plenty of places you can buy online from, the usually roast to order.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 17 20:44:22 2014 No.6070120 >>6070113 Awesome, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 17 23:01:36 2014 No.6070451 is this ok?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 17 23:02:38 2014 No.6070452 File: 58 KB, 500x500, 10096702.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6070451 so much for "post from URL"...

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 17 23:21:14 2014 No.6070496 Same setup I use (my grinder is the Skerton but same difference, Hario hand crank). Makes some fantastic goddamn coffee.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 17 23:24:58 2014 No.6070516 >>6070452 Have it. Makes great coffee. Hate the pot.

Anonymous Wed Dec 17 23:27:02 2014 No.6070521

>>6070101

Find a burr grinder, not a blade grinder. I like the French press... get one big enough to make US sized mugs of coffee, not some gay European micro-cup of coffee. Find someone at a farmer's market who grinds their own beans. They'll point you in the right direction. And use decent water, bottled or filtered if you live where the water is shit.

Anonymous Wed Dec 17 23:41:00 2014 No.6070557

>>6070521
Heh, clever boy. You're giving deliberately bad advice so that real coffee aficionados will get mad and offer their own correct advice.

OP the grinder will be ok but the simplified French press thing will be utterly shit. Though you gotta start somewhere I guess.

Personally I'd get a moka pot in that price range but a lot of people seem to like their French press. Make sure you know how to use it properly. Look at some youtube demonstrations. With a regular French you're supposed to alow time for the coffee to brew before plunging it. I suspect that this aeropress would be the same. Not sure though.

Also, expect to make several bad cups before you get it right. Don't give up, and good luck!

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 18 00:08:42 2014 No.6070607 I wouldn't consider that a starter, you can't get any better then a good burr grinder and aeropress.

Anonymous Thu Dec 18 00:10:56 2014 No.6070610
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>>6070557
>Heh, clever boy. You're giving deliberately bad advice so that real coffee aficionados will get mad and offer their own correct advice.
>OP the grinder will be ok but the simplified French press thing will be utterly shit. Though you gotta start somewhere I guess.

>not knowing what an aeropress is

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 18 00:15:09 2014 No.6070615 ITT: people giving coffee advice while not knowing what an aeropress is.

Anonymous Thu Dec 18 00:19:09 2014 No.6070620

Aeropress's are great so long as you take the time to learn how to use them well. There is plenty of guides online, I recommend upside down method.

Make sure you get a burr grinder.
Also get a thermometer to measure your water temp.
Try to find fresh locally roasted beans.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 18 00:20:58 2014 No.6070626 >>6070610 >>6070615 What's the difference between a french press and an aero press?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 18 00:23:18 2014 No.6070628 >>6070626 a french press is a jar with a mesh plunger an aeropress is an overgrown syringe

Anonymous Thu Dec 18 00:34:51 2014 No.6070650
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>>6070610
>>6070615
When I was looking for coffee making equipment I filtered out any results that were below a certain price range. I've never seen what poor people use and I make no apologies for that.

Anonymous Thu Dec 18 00:44:47 2014 No.6070662

Good lord... A coffee maker is a coffee maker folks. It's the beans that makes or breaks it Trust me, I've tried them all across the board. They all have their pros and cons. Until I could be bothered to buy a proper maker my stove top percolator made the best stuff around. Probably still would if it wasn't ruined by my girlfriend. Just find one that suits your needs best OP. As long as it isn't a Keurig man...

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 18 06:40:41 2014 No.6071088 If you want to make espresso (which is better that regular coffee), buy a Moka pot. I've added a link. http://www.espressodrinker.co.uk/pezzetti-italexpress-aluminium-moka-pot/

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 18 06:40:53 2014 No.6071089 >>6070451 >>6070452 So you can program it so it makes it for you before you wake up? I need it. Does it do espresso or is this a perculator?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 18 10:22:55 2014 No.6071337 just get a $20 bullet grinder and a $20 french press, you don't need anymore tools to make good coffee; however, the bean quality is the most importatnt factor, I like Sumatran Mendehling as it is dark and has an almost chocolate flavor

Anonymous Thu Dec 18 10:25:25 2014 No.6071342

>>6070650

It's likely I'm better off than you and my daily equipment consists of a $30 hario cone filter.

There is no point in fancy gear for drip coffee, it only makes things worse.. The only stuff you should spend big money on is espresso machines and grinders.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 18 10:44:13 2014 No.6071381 >>6070557 >I'd get a moka pot in that price range That's not "normal" coffee though. Moka coffee and press coffee are wildly different.

Anonymous Thu Dec 18 10:47:29 2014 No.6071384

All good suggestions so far ITT.

OP, if you want to go on the cheaper side, a French press will make exquisite coffee for under $20, assuming you have good beans.

Another thing that doesn't get mentioned as often as it should is the water. Making a cup from some tasty spring water that you enjoy will turn out much better coffee than tap water (depending on how good/bad your tap water is).

Coffee is one of the bottomless pits of cooking. No matter how much you taste and how many machines you use, you'll never in your lifetime come to close to using/tasting even a fraction of them.

Good luck.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 18 11:38:47 2014 No.6071461 >>6071337 >beans >being dark >not the roast being dark >2(1000)+2(7) >knowing this little about coffee >SHIGGY DIGGY

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 18 11:49:39 2014 No.6071491 >>6071461 I assume he was referring to the fact that those beans are normally roasted to the point of being pretty dark. No one is impressed by your ability to nitpick.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 18 12:10:47 2014 No.6071533 >>6070521 >bottled or filtered if you live where the water is shit. This. If its shit, its shit.

Anonymous Thu Dec 18 17:27:47 2014 No.6072161
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I'm thinking of getting an espresso machine. Should I consider the ones that have a built-in grinder, or buy the grinder separately? Are espresso machines like gaming headsets in this sense that when you get two instruments in one you tend to get a shitty microphone with shittier earphones?

Anonymous Thu Dec 18 23:25:32 2014 No.6073000

>>6072161
yes, unless you're spending an enormous amount of money a machine/grinder will be fucking horrid. A good espresso machine is going to start out around $400 and a good electric grinder around $160 (USD). If you don't want to spend that much then stick with manual methods like mokah, french press, or aeropress because a cheaper grinder/machine will just ruin the coffee.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 04:06:02 2014 No.6073637 >>6071088 but moka pots don't make espresso.

Anonymous Fri Dec 19 04:10:42 2014 No.6073639

>>6072161
The least amount of money I would consider spending on an espresso machine would be 600.00, I worked in a bakery/coffee shop and learning to use the machine, clean it, and understand it made me realize that it isn't something that can be duplicated on the cheap. Until I can afford a 1000.00 machine/grinder set up I'm sticking to manual methods and the occasional trip to a high end espresso bar.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 04:15:35 2014 No.6073641 Water and caffeine pills. Coffee is fucking disgusting, especially for a refined palate such as mine

Anonymous Fri Dec 19 04:31:56 2014 No.6073660

You don't have to have a burr grinder and French presses are super overrated hipster shit.

Far and away the biggest factor is the quality of the beans. Second is how fresh the beans/grounds are. The closer to brewing time the beans are ground, the better the flavor.

Spend your money on quality whole beans, keep them in an air tight container out of sunlight, grind them in a $20 grinder, and brew them in a $13 Mr Coffee, and you'll have excellent coffee.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 04:33:02 2014 No.6073664 >>6073660 Also use filtered water if you can. Water quality is important too.

Anonymous Fri Dec 19 04:37:34 2014 No.6073674

>>6073660
>buying quality beans and not getting the most out of them with a proper grinder and brewer

>$10 burr grinder
http://www.amazon.com/Manual-Ceramic-Coffee-Grinder-White/dp/B00JZC01HG/ref=sr_1_15?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1418981678&sr=1-15&keywords=burr+grinder
>$13 French press
http://www.amazon.com/French-Press-Coffee-Maker-size/dp/B0084ORV60/ref=sr_1_6?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1418981635&sr=1-6&keywords=french+press

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 04:52:07 2014 No.6073689 File: 32 KB, 466x382, Fedora.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6073674 Here, you forgot this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 14:27:15 2014 No.6074459 >>6073641 This. Not to mention the enormous amount of time you save from not needing to brew

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 14:43:15 2014 No.6074481 >>6070101 This is the exact setup that I started with when I was getting into coffee. I absolutely loved it. And still have it for when I move out. Would highly recommend! plus it is small and compact.

Anonymous Fri Dec 19 14:45:25 2014 No.6074487

>>6070101
>http://www.amazon.com/Aerobie-AeroPress-Coffee-Espresso-Maker/dp/B0047BIWSK
There is a metal filter that one of the places sells that works really good, try and find a good mesh one instead of a metal plate with tiny holes in it if you don't like dealing with the papers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:52:28 2014 No.6075021 >>6071089 Probably a drip.

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