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Is steak actually still a big thing? Last time I had a steak must have been over 7 years ago when my mom/stepdad would make dinner. It's not like we ever had shit steaks (or top steaks for that matter) but I don't see the appeal.

Steaks are pretty pleb if you ask me. Firstly they're typically beef. Secondly there is minimal anything done to the slab of meat.

Steak is the top pleb food

>mfw I see someone fussing over steak

>> No.5983213

Steaks are just average pub food. Good for filling a spot, tastes decent enough but nothing amazing.

>> No.5983214
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5983214

>mfw I found my old ban screenshot folder from 2013

You won't like what comes next, op

>> No.5983218

Yeah I'd prefer fast food over a steak anyday. Pure meat is just boring.

>> No.5983223

>>5983218
You don't eat steak by itself, dummy. Have it with a side of chips, mushy peas and top it with peppercorn sauce.

>> No.5983229

>>5983208
You're fusing over steak

>> No.5983232

I like steak, it's simple and nice.

>> No.5983235

>>5983208
I feel like you haven't had a decent quality steak that was cooked in a proper way.

The texture and taste of a good steak is fucking amazing, and the simplicity of beef with staple seasonings, cooked in a bit of fat is a mouthwatering idea to me.

>> No.5983248

>>5983235
Same, when it's done right steak is absolutely fantastic. The old salt + pepper route is a bit bland, but when you get creative and find an awesome marinade it's perfection. Steak does need a side of something to round it out though, like mash or garlic bread

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>>5983229
I am. I mean steak is OK at best. It's nothing to go wild over. Beef is the shittiest of all meats. Salmon steaks are better.

If we wanna get into BBQ food then I think steak is an appropriate dish. But if I were at a bbq I'd be taking ribs or chicken over the cow unless the steak was the bbq's special. No reason to think steak is special.

So many steak threads on /ck/ you'd think it's the pinnacle of all food

>> No.5983254

>>5983214
lmao I remember seeing that thread (or atleast that pic as OP). You picked a shitty pic, although I supposed I'm making as much fun of the plebs as you are

>> No.5983258

>>5983235
Probably this the majority of the time. I've had a few steaks with good flavour and amazing texture but to get that texture in the uncooked meat you end up paying with your body. it's not worth the price when you can get chicken breats which will have good texture unless you fuck up cooking them

>> No.5983260

>>5983250
Well that's good for you.

>> No.5983263

>>5983208

If steak is pleb I want to be pleb

>> No.5983270

>>5983250
I'm just giving you a hard time. More steak for me!

>> No.5983281

>>5983270
That's cool, it's 4chan.

I just think that steak is elevated WAY above where it belongs. It's not intrinsically less than (well it is but...) other cuts of meat but there is no way in hell it deserves to be as high as it is.

>> No.5983297

>>5983250
you are a faggot with shitty taste, thats the only take away from your post.

>> No.5983333
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5983333

Steak is great but over-hyped. I prefer a good burger to steak most of the time.

>> No.5983339

>prime rib
>pleb food
I this a troll thread

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>>5983333
nice quads and I agree

>> No.5983374

Steaks is amazing but a lot of people don't eat it because you have some of these nigger ass restaurants that want you to buy a $25 garbage steak that's tough like shoe leather. Steak is amazing if you cook it yourself. Fuck getting it outside.

>> No.5983384

I like a good restraint cooked quality steak screw the crap they sell butcher shop

>> No.5983434

>>5983374
Nah man, steaks are amazing when you pay enough for them. Last time I went to a steakhouse I spent $80 on a porterhouse and it was just the best cut of meat I've ever eaten. Melted in my mouth.

>> No.5983487

OP I doubt you have ever had a quality steak in your life, which is what you're basing your opinion on. If you had ever had a steak nicer than the one for $19.99 at Outback you would know how good they are.

I hate to be a dick but a great steak is just that, great. Go to a nice butcher shop and get a nice NY Strip that costs 20 bucks a pound. Go home, coat that shit in a bit of extra virigin olive oil, sprinkle with sea salt and cracked pepper. Let that shit out on your counter top for 20 minutes.

Throw that shit on your grill that has been heating to max heat for 10 minutes. 7 Minutes per side or so.

Eat that shit medium rare.

>> No.5983497

lamb steak > beef steak

>> No.5983500

>>5983208
It is important to let your home cooked steaks sit for a few minutes on a warm panel

>> No.5983508

>>5983208
Fine dining is a joke, and steak really overrated. The best meals I've ever had were tiny ethnic holes in the wall that were run by families. Usually they only seat 20 but they cook real food with good ingredients. Big portions for cheap

Yelp is surprisingly accurate

>> No.5983512

>>5983208

Maybe the problem you are having is that your country has shit meat? Or you buy poor quality meat and thus think it's nothing to write home about?

A good piece of beef is pretty much the best food there is. Just salt and pepper.

If you need any form of sauce. Anything at all, then chances are you are not eating good beef.

Protip: there is no good meat in the united states of america. The shit you consider beef there is just sponge with a packet of beef flavoring from an off-brand ramen.

And I'm not even trying to be insulting. It's just reality. If a murikan ever saw the light, they'd agree, but most won't. And that's perfectly fine by me.

>> No.5983516

>>5983487
><br><br>Eat that shit medium rare.

You could have put that in the same paragraph and it wouldn't have seemed so hilariously fedoric.

Also, canola oil for pre-cooking. EVOO will just burn.

Finally, not op, but I only ever get USDA prime dry aged, quite a bit more than $20/lb where I live considering that quality skirt costs about $19/lb and it's not dry aged or prime, and I still don't get the fapping over steak that I see around here.

It's just that portionfags and >muh munnysworth fags and people who get intimidated by words they might not have seen before are the more comfortable in a steakhouse than anywhere else when they want to have a fancy dinner out. All the wines have easy to say names like "screaming eagle" and "B.V." instead of that weird french shit like "shombol mooseenie" and "shaassan montrashay". So needless to say, the steakhouse experience gives people like this an opportunity to be fancy together, without being challenged too much.

>> No.5983540

>>5983516
>using canola oil
>ever

Canola oil will "burn" too on a 500 degree grill too. There is no cooking oil that won't burn at that temperature. You want some kind of char anyway.

Not sure where you live, but where I am you should get Prime NY Strip for as low as $18/lb. Not dry aged though, but I don't mind because I don't enjoy dry aged steaks as much.

>> No.5983553

>>5983540

Thomas Keller recommends canola oil for some recipes. Are you smarter than Thomas Keller?

Prime dry aged NY Strip is around $26-28/lb.

I generally just get skirt anyway for home cooking, I prefer the flavor. At a restaurant is a different story.

>> No.5983560

>>5983512
I think his point is that while steak is delicious and the ultimate ode to a cut of meat, is doesn't carry the same endorphin rush and fulfillment of other styles of food; that crave you feel from something like barbecue or sushi. And I agree

>> No.5983567

>>5983553
Canola Oil is overrated trash and should never be used.

>> No.5983573

>>5983567

Not that guy, but hoo boy did you ever convince me with those well-thought-out arguments of yours.

>> No.5983575

>>5983567

Overrated how? Do you see youtube chefs recommending that it be dumped in everything for its health value? Are there new brands of junk food saying "now! fried in canola oil!"? No. That's olive oil.

I mean I don't really care, use peanut or grapeseed oil if you want, but I think you're just getting butthurt over #gmo #trashfood. Which is fine, I get it, but overrated is hardly the right criticism.

>> No.5983578

>>5983560
Also I should add that I do like steak. I live next to a small, family owned cattle farm that uses minimal medicine and biotics on their cattle, and they openly graze on grains. I bought some porterhouse steaks from them a couple years back from a coe they slaughtered for personal use. I dry aged the steak for 4 days with salt and pepper, and seared on a natural chunk charcoal/hickory grill and topped with lemon juice.

Was the best steak I ever had, but I never sit around in the afternoon and get hit with a craving like "damn I wish I had a steak."

>> No.5983580

>>5983553
>Thomas Keller recommends canola oil for some recipes.

Yes. And? That doesn't change the fact that canola oil has a smoke point lower than the temperatures achieved on a grill. You can easily look it up yourself if you think we are full of it.

>> No.5983586

Only men like steak.

>> No.5983590

>>5983573
I don't care if I convince you or not. Eat whatever shit you want, I don't care. Just saying it's not quality and shouldn't be recommended to others.

>>5983575
It's overrated because it purports to be a healthy cheap alternative when it fact it is not. Overrated might not be the best word but it works.

>> No.5983593

>>5983580

Who is "we"? You and your imaginary friend?

The point is you want to be tasting caramelized steak as much as possible, not burned oil. Low smoke point oil is just bad for high temperature applications, period. Same reason you're not frying it in butter.

>> No.5983602

>>5983590
> it purports to be

I have literally never seen anyone make a health claim about canola oil in particular, except maybe a monsanto press release that I might have read for humor value.

People make health claims about high smoke point oils because that's what medical experts recommend. You will see the same claims about peanut oil, apricot kernel oil, and rice bran oil. Some of which are rather expensive.

If you don't want to support GMO, that is a whole other issue.

>> No.5983610

>>5983602
>I have literally never seen anyone make a health claim about canola oil in particular

>I haven't seen it, there for it isn't a thing!

Ok bud. Canola Oil is chemically refined disgusting bullshit. The GMO aspect is just the kicker.

>> No.5983624

>>5983610
>Canola Oil is chemically refined disgusting bullshit.

As opposed to all those other oils that just magically get shat out of the plant? Most highly refined oils involve some kind of chemical process. I can, right now, walk down to the corner store and pick up a bottle of "pure 100% greek olive oil" that is hexane refined.

Stop cherry picking just because you don't like the name. Is it an MRA thing? You're mad that it's not called rape? RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE. You happy now?

Shit I haven't even touched a bottle of canola oil in at least 5 years and now I want to go out and buy some just to spite you.

>> No.5983645

>>5983512
>Protip: there is no good meat in the united states of america.

This is a plain lie and you know it

>> No.5983653

>>5983624
But I don't buy "olive oil" I buy extra virgin olive oil, which means it's the oil yielded from the first press of olives.

Stop backpedaling you fucking douche, and just admit that canola oil sucks.

>> No.5983657

>>5983653

You use extra virgin olive oil for everything? Jesus what a retard.

>> No.5983663

Why do people get these ideas up in their heads about things being overrated or wanting something that is well known to be challenged?

Do you think its pleb because it simple and well known? That makes you a dumb idiot who follows the hype.

>> No.5983664

>>5983657
>>5983653

Also there basically no such thing as oil "from the first press", almost anything you buy commercially is going to be centrifuge extracted.

You should really learn about a subject before you try to have such strong, obnoxious opinions on it.

>> No.5983667

This thread is autistic.

>> No.5983685

>>5983508
I get that you're 18, and this is the first time you've lived in a city, but you really don't have to take it out on steak.

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>>5983487
>convincing yourself it's good because you paid more
how american are you?

>> No.5985210

>>5983508

have you no self-awareness

this is a fucking platonic shadow of a hipster douchebag post playing across a cave wall

>>5983208

when you say

>Steaks are pretty pleb if you ask me. Firstly they're typically beef. Secondly there is minimal anything done to the slab of meat.

you're suggesting that beef is 'pleb', which isn't true, and that the more you do to the piece of meat the higher it is elevated.

this goes against one of the basic tenets of fine dining - that you should take quality ingredients and treat them simply and with care.

also nothing in your post says anything about how the steak tastes. that's how you know you're missing the point of food.

>> No.5985229

>>5985210
>how the steak tastes
uninspired
bland
boring
uninteresting

>> No.5985232

>>5985229

'uninspired' is not a taste.
steaks obviously aren't bland if you cook them right.
if you're bored and uninterested by them, fine, but that doesn't really have anything to do with the quality of the food.

>> No.5985271

>>5985229

If all the steak you've eaten is bland then you can't cook and apparently neither can anyone at the restaurants you've gone to.

Also uninspired, boring, and uninteresting aren't tastes.

>> No.5985278

i sincerely enjoy steak, and it's my favorite beef preparation.

you've got the crispy crunchy seared outside, the soft and velvety inside, then a explosion of juice. all that texture contrast is amazing.

and the flavor. the sear gives that delicious malliard effect. and if the steak is aged, you've got natural-occurring MSG and an intense beef flavor.

>> No.5985588

>>5985232
>'uninspired' is not a taste
>>5985271
>Also uninspired, boring, and uninteresting aren't tastes.

are you guys retarded? do you describe food solely as "good" or "bad"?

>> No.5985617

>>5985588

no, but 'uninspired' is a reference to the lack of creativity in the work done to make the product, not the actual taste.

>> No.5985652

>>5983208
They are simple yet elegant.

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>>5983250
>BBQ
>anything but pork

>> No.5987962

>>5985617
>not the actual taste.
it can easily be both. why can't I describe something as having an uninspired taste?

>> No.5987975

>>5987962

because it's nonsensical.

>> No.5987978

>>5983223
>vegetable and mushy in same sentence