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You may have already heard that Eagles RB LeSean McCoy stiffed a server at Philly eatery PYT — home of stunt foods like the Fried Chicken & Beer Burger, the Deep-Fried Twinkie Burger, and the Lasagna-Bun Burger — by leaving only $.20 on a $61.56 bill.

Well, in a letter posted this afternoon on the PYT Facebook page, that owner says he’d like to apologize to the record-breaking running back… but he just can’t.
First off, the owner clarifies that the waiter in this incident had nothing to do with posting the receipt on Facebook.
“I take total and complete responsibility for sharing this receipt,” he writes. “It was not our server’s decision, it was mine. I am to blame.

However, he claims that McCoy and his friends quickly became “verbally abusive” to the staff, including derogatory comments about females.
The owner also says that after the group had left, he noticed the waiter was staring at the receipt left behind.
“I took the receipt out of his hand and I couldn’t believe that anyone could be so callous,” he writes. “Mr. McCoy had left a .03% tip for our staff… Twenty cents that our server has to split with the food runner and the bartender. Two dimes from an insulting multimillionaire.”

Giving McCoy the benefit of a doubt, the owner says he assumes that the football star is “usually an awesome dude” and maybe he was having a bad day. But he takes issues with claims from the player and his management that it was in response to bad service — a claim the owner labels as “a complete slanderous lie.”
“At the end of the day, I did what I felt my heart told me to do,” he explains. “And I don’t want anything from Mr McCoy, but…maybe an apology to his server who gave him excellent service would be cool.”

http://consumerist.com/2014/09/09/restaurant-owner-wont-apologize-for-shaming-lesean-mccoy-over-20-tip/

>> No.5777262

>>5777260
>professional sports star with a black sounding name
>a city I don't care about
>novelty foods for retards

Why should I care again?

>> No.5777276
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>> No.5777281

>Pay me twice for doing my job

Why are waiters so entitled?

>> No.5777303

>>5777281
20 cents is still low though even if the service was bad you should still tip at least 5-10%

>> No.5777308

>>5777260
>pro athlete
>derogatory comments about females
wow what a surprise

>> No.5777377

>>5777260

> black tips poorly

well shit, that is a rare one

>> No.5777399

>>5777260
I love how he played the "verbal abuse" and "sexist comments targeting poor defenseless women" cards in an attempt to make the customer look bad.

>> No.5777401

Blacks. Don't. Tip.

Seriously, the waiter should be happy he got any money from him.

>> No.5777402

>he’d like to apologize to the record-breaking running back… but he just can’t
In situations like this, I actually really respect it when people stick up for themselves like this. I think it's actually pretty cool.

>> No.5777406

It's pretty rare that people in the service industry get any opportunity for revenge on the people who treat them like shit (other than spitting in their food), so, this is pretty cool.

>> No.5777407

>>5777303
>even if the service was bad you should still tip at least 5-10%
Are you joking or are Americans this brainwashed? Why the ever living fuck would you reward someone, that's what a fucking tip is, for doing poorly?

>> No.5777417

>>5777407
The thing is is that wait staff are not really salaried employees. Their paid from their tips and if they're not tipped then their not paid. So americans are extremely reluctant about stiffing them (even when they deserve it) because of the guilt involved.

>> No.5777425

>>5777417
They are salaried, it's just that their salaries are usually much lower than minimum wage because business usually expect tips to consist of most of their "pay", which is why american waiters can be huge dicks about tips.

>> No.5777429

>>5777425
for most of their "pay" to consist of tips*

>> No.5777432

>>5777425
Right but the common retort to that is that if they don't bring in the tips then the restaurant mangers will fire them because they really do expect the customers to pay their salaries.

>> No.5777433

>>5777417
Yes they are. If you fail to reach minimum wage through tips+hourly earnings, your employer must compensate you enough that you reach minimum wage.

Yes, the employee will probably be immediately fired after getting his/her money, but they must be paid at least minimum

>> No.5777434

no. I refuse to believe an African American would be an undesirable customer and on top of that offer no gratuity.

things just don't work like that. server/restaurant was probably racist.

>> No.5777435

>>5777417
That's a social economic issue, and should be fixed at the source (higher minimum wage) rather than letting tipping continue. Tipping isn't helping anyone, it's especially not helping the very waiters and servers you're supposing it'll help by tipping.

>> No.5777442

>>5777435
Right. Well it's a mixed bag. I believe waitressing is the only occupation that uneducated/unskilled single mothers can do that pays them a living salary. I'm sympathetic to women in those service jobs for that very reason. If they go to a minimum wage system for wait staff then they're no better off than the walmart people who have to go on food stamps to make ends meet.

>> No.5777450
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5777450

>>5777417
>Their paid from their tips and if they're not tipped then their not paid.
Not how it works.

>> No.5777452

>>5777442
If you're so sympathetic about them, you should push for minimum wage so they can actually have a baseline standard of living, instead of living in worry whether they'll be tipped or not.

>> No.5777459

>>5777401
>blacks don't tip

correction. blacks don't tip when its their own money. I cater to big corporate events and a nigga will HOOK my white ass up when the company is flipping the tab, blacks give me lots of money. tipping 20% on a $1000 order isn't unheard of. On average its the Asians who are the bad tippers in my line of work. I can show up and set up lunch for 100 people and some of them will tip me like I simply showed up with two pizzas on a saturday night.

I get the impression tipping is not at all part of Asian culture, is this true?

>> No.5777463

>>5777459
>I get the impression tipping is not at all part of Asian culture, is this true?
i think some asian cultures view tipping like charity, or an insult. it's kind of like saying you can't get a good enough job to earn enough money, so he's a little extra.

>> No.5777475

>>5777463
they think I bring dishonah to mah famirah? the Asians are some of the most pleasant customers I deal with but they don't tip for shit.

>> No.5777491

ive had lots of low paying jobs and you never get "tips"
waiters and waitresses can fuck off thinking they deserve free money for a simple job.

>> No.5777493

>>5777260
That's terrible. He shoulda rounded up to 62 like any decent restaurant patron would do.

>> No.5777496

>>5777459
>I get the impression tipping is not at all part of Asian culture, is this true?
It is. Tipping is frowned upon in asian cultures. It's actually insulting towards the server and the establishment, like they're a charity case in the ghetto somewhere. So using the 20% example you posted, do you honestly expect to be paid 2000 tax free dollars for setting up lunch for 100 people? And what exactly does "set up lunch" entail? To me the only people who actually deserve tips are cooks and bartenders since they actually create the dish/drink.

>> No.5777511

>>5777303
>providing a gratuity to someone who has failed to do their job

>> No.5777515

>>5777260
The football star should play the race card hard on the waiter and restaurant owner.

>> No.5777518

Jesus fuck who cares.
He probably did a shit job waiting the table. If he gave me a shit time I wouldn't even tip him.

Jesus fuck. Minorities working manual labor for shit pay and don't complain.

>> No.5777528

When you eat out in America, you're paying to be the manager. :DDD

>> No.5777531

>>5777377
They should be happy one tipped at all

>> No.5777536

>>5777496
Do you honestly believe that 20% of 1000 is 2000?

>> No.5777546
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5777546

>>5777260
>LeSean McCoy leaving only $.20 on a $61.56 bill.

Shocking! I totally didn't expect this...

>> No.5777551

Just because I am richer than you does not entitle you to one single penny of my money. You are lucky you work a job where you get to feel entitled to tips at all, where you get to go online and throw a shitfit and a pity party at the same time, getting asspats and encouragment from your deadbeat friends and strangers who also know how hard it is to do a minimum wage job.

>> No.5777552

>>5777536
Maybe the dumbass is thinking each person is paying for a 100 dollar meal? He should have probably worded it like "20% of a bill for 100 people" or something which lets say if each meal is 20 bucks then that will be 2 grand and 20% of that is 400 bucks.

>> No.5777557

So the customer isn't right?

I wonder who ever said "the customer is always right" so we can prove him/her wrong.

>> No.5777559

>>5777442
That's sad, but also their own fault.
You were wrong the entire movie, Mr. White. About everything.
You should have acted professional.

>> No.5777561

>>5777551
I love it when wait staff try to threaten you with public shaming in an attempt to extort money from you.

>> No.5777562

>>5777557
I worked in repair and our saying was "the customer is always an idiot".

>> No.5777564
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5777564

>>5777260
>Rich people are expected to tip
>people are expected to tip
>Tipping is expected

I don't give a shit if Bill fucking Gates walks into a restaurant and orders $1000 dollars worth of food, expecting rich or famous people to tip more is retarded.

The guy was a dick? Who fucking cares? He was a dick and left a shit tip? Get over it.

Every restaurant could easily do away with tipping, pay their employees federal minimum wage, and would only need to raise prices fractions of a dollar. They could easily raise the prices of drinks instead and still make enough money to meet costs. Restaurants that don't meet costs every month will close just like they do already.

Tipping shouldn't be something used so people working at an establishment do you favors, it shouldn't be something you think you can control a server with, it shouldn't be some bullshit you use to show off to people you dine with. Tipping was originally used because people wanted to give servers a little something extra because they had amazing service, now it's expected of everyone and it's fucking stupid.

Yes, I'm fucking mad and I'm sick of seeing tipping threads on /ck/.

>> No.5777569

>a job that we give literal 16 year old girls who don't know a handbrake from a handjob
>people expecting it to pay well
hello, it's entry level. hire a pretty girl to give you a handbrake and fire her if she doesn't

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5777574

Somebody have the one of the girl saying "5 dollars on a so and so bill? next time you come in i'll spit in your fucking food" online, and then the follow up of a guy reporting her to chilis and her facebook post about being fired

>> No.5777577
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5777577

How much should you tip here?
The guy DID bring you a lot of expensive drinks. That's much harder than carrying a lot of water or coca cola.

>> No.5777579

>>5777564
Restaurants don't even need servers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jGYZSGTQ3c

>> No.5777584

>>5777579
>have to start carrying bits of ram to tip the machines

>> No.5777587

>>5777577
>$12 water

>> No.5777590

>>5777515
Not going to work for severeal reasons.
1. He's multimillionare.
2. Blacks are notoriuos for not tipping.
3. Tipping 0.03% rather than 0% was obviously done in spite.

If the service was really bad then there would have been no tip at all but McCoy decided he wanted to tip $0.20 with less than noble intentions.

>> No.5777591

I have a lot of friends that are servers and they bitch if they don't get that 20%......"$5 on a $40!?!? WTF!?!?".......I don't understand how someone can complain about that. How did this happen?

>> No.5777592

>>5777587

looks like a receipt from Harry's.

>> No.5777593

>>5777551
>>5777561
Are you two blind and autistic? The one who posted the reciept was the owner no the waitstaff.

>> No.5777594

>>5777591
>2014
>tipping less than 50%

>> No.5777596

I don't tip.
I pay for the meal, and my boyfriend tips. Let him deal with that headache.

>> No.5777598

>>5777260
>Two dimes
guess he cut on dime again

>> No.5777606

Do servers get offended if I stop talking when they approach? I just don't like to have people hearing things out of context.

>> No.5777610

>>5777606
unless they're some super sensitive fag, I would guess no. They probably don't give two shits about you or what you're talking about for the most part.

>> No.5777614

>>5777606
I've seen le redditeurs complain about it.

>> No.5777616

>>5777606
Tell your wife to stop talking about my hot package.

>> No.5777682

>>5777590
>1. He's multimillionare.
That has nothing to do with anything

>2. Blacks are notoriuos for not tipping.
That sounds like racial profiling you racist.

>3. Tipping 0.03% rather than 0% was obviously done in spite.
The 0.03% was to show the server that he is still a considerate human being and that the server should perform better in the future. Not tipping at all would be malicious and spiteful because you got fed yet didn't even feel the waiter was worth acknowledging.

Sounds like you're basing your assumptions on what YOU would do in the situation and it's quite obvious you're a racist, malicious and spiteful person.

>> No.5777688

>>5777682
> autism speaks

>> No.5777702

>>5777682
>Blacks are notoriuos for not tipping.
>That sounds like racial profiling you racist.
It's not. People have done the research on tipping and, after accounting for economic differences, black people tip less. Incidentally, there's an argument that tipping should be banned outright because it ends up being racist (blacks are tipped less, regardless of the race of the tipper)

>> No.5777743

>>5777702
>Incidentally, there's an argument that tipping should be banned outright because it ends up being racist (blacks are tipped less, regardless of the race of the tipper)
...

Strangely I can't remember having a black bartender or waitress, aside from one manning a stand a metal concert. Tipped her about 30%, because she was polite and fast. Wanted to get back to the show.

>> No.5777751

>>5777743
I can't either. Strange. Plenty in fast food though.

>> No.5777758

>>5777260
End of the day its his restaurant he gets to do whatever the fuck he wants. Just like that customer paying whatever the fuck he wants for an optional tip. Nothing wrong with either choice that was made.

>> No.5777778

>>5777702
>Incidentally, there's an argument that tipping should be banned outright
In my country tipping is outlawed. If you get caught tipping you are charged a hefty fine because it is considered a bribe and encouraging criminal behavior because wait staff feel pressured to give you free shit at the expense of the establishment.

>> No.5777781

>>5777303
Fuck you and every one that says that.

The real answer is to get up and fucking leave if the service is shite, no one should get any money.

>> No.5777790

>>5777511

I think tipping is stupid and that it's ludicrous that waitstaff make more than chefs most of the time, but to be fair it requires more competency and people skill to be a good waiter than the skills that are required for other entry-level minimum wage jobs.

>> No.5777792

>>5777778
There is no country that effed up except commie

>> No.5777795

>>5777260
This is why i write "on table" on the tip line and then don't add anything to the total when service is shit.

Its funny as shit to watch the idiot server looking under all the plates and shit.

Fuck them.

Plus if they post it on the net, its my word against theirs that i left a 20 and the dishonest server palmed it.

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>>5777579

What prevents someone from grabbing your dish off the slide?

I'd rather have monkeys as waitresses;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKBIHcy9s7M

>> No.5777798

>>5777790

To add, if someone is a shit waiter then I don't care if people stiff them. At least that might send a message that they should learn to do their job, although it won't because anyone who works a job that gets tips and still does a shit job is just beyond saving.

>> No.5777805

Shit.

I'm homeless and unemployed and I tip better than that fucker.

>> No.5777810

>>5777805
Then you are an idiot and should rethink your spending habits.

>> No.5777820

>>5777805
>homeless and unemployed
>posting on 4chan
Good to see that you can still leach from someone...

>> No.5777826

>>5777377
This.
>not exactly breaking news

>> No.5777830

>>5777459
You must be a shitty server. Asians almost universally give 15% in 'murrica, unless you provide terrible service. It's the rules.

>> No.5777838

>>5777830
Both of you are making baseless, blanket generalizations. Both shut up now thanks.

>> No.5777843

Whatever the tip, I think it's ultradouchey that businesses are allowed to publish people's credit card slips/receipts. Credit card transactions should be considered private information.

I wish Visa & Mastercard would just lay down privacy rules saying their merchant have to keep such data private. Or even pass a law, though that gets into all sorts of first amendment issues, and would lead to gray areas of publishing other types of signed contracts.

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5777844

>>5777260
owner doesnt care
mccoy doesnt care
i dont care

>> No.5777849

I thought this was about The Eagles for a minute but then I realized it was just a handegg player and lost interest.

>> No.5777851

>>5777577
>$9 cappuccino

The fuck? Not even a cappuccino made with Blue Mountain or Geisha beans would run that much, and using either those beans for a cappuccino would be stupid.

>> No.5777858

he definitely got some shitty service and I don't blame him. It gets your message across when you tip that low vs not even tipping at all. He got shit service, and gave them a shitty tip.

>> No.5777869

>>5777851

>this is how poor people think

lel, the rich would pay $9 for a cappuccino made with fucking folger's, just so that they wouldn't have to dine with the unwashed masses like you.

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5777874

>>5777843
>Or even pass a law

We did;

>> No.5777877

>>5777463
I'm white Irish and this is how I view being payed at all. I'll help you because I want to. Don't spit in my face handing me money after.

>> No.5777879

I went to visit my brother in Korea and all the restaurants there are IMO perfect. No tipping they work hourly, you get your own water and if you need more food or something taken away or another beer you press a button and the servers come to your table. Basically they all sit in the back and wait to be called.

Fucking perfect.

>> No.5777889

>>5777858

I wonder which came first -- terrible service or being abusive toward the servers.

>> No.5777896

>>5777879
korean restaurants in america do this as well

>> No.5777934

>>5777377
blacks tip on average 10%. whites closer to 20%

source: i'm a waiter

>> No.5777942

>>5777433
good luck finding (let alone affording) a lawyer to actually pursue a case like that

>> No.5777943

>>5777459
i used to cater for a lot of big corporate events. high end food, barely got any food. if i got even %10 on all the orders i did I would totally make bank, like several hundred dollars a day

>> No.5777955

>tfw server
>tfw i regularly up-charge customers who use a credit card and don't tip welll

nobody ever keeps their receipts, so no one notices

:)))

>> No.5777971

>working as a server in a state that doesn't require by law you be paid at least a minimum hourly wage
Get another job you fucking retards.
I'm sick of this fucking tipping thing.
I'm in California and they get paid $9/hour now and a lot of servers at the place i work STILL get pissy when they don't get tipped. What the fuck is wrong with you faggots.
Come back here and cook everything, handle the kitchen staff and inventory and then maybe think about crying over tips.
All they do is play fetch.

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>>5777260
as a brit i eill never understand this whole tipping ting you Americans have. a tip is a reward for quality service and a thank you for a good experience, it is not a mandatory obligation to tip if you were disappointed with the service of the establishment. its up to the owner to assume the responsibility of paying a fair wage to the employees and any tips they get is a bonus, not a staple of their income

>> No.5777976

>>5777955
If they didn't notice they probably didn't need it. Remind of some rich guy in China got one of his credit cards compromised the thief put tens of thousands of dollars worth of charges on it, the millionaire didn't notice for well over a year and basically shrugged when he found out.