/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.5723025]

Vegans of /ck/:

What are your favorite dishes? As someone who is neither vegetarian or vegan, but is concerned about the environment, the biggest obstacle for my transition to veganism is the seeming lack of good food. How do you live without delicious meat?

[Anonymous No.5723036]

>>5723025
>is concerned about the environment
your logic is dicks

[Anonymous No.5723061]

>>5723036
do you not understand how bad raising animals is for the environment?

[Anonymous No.5723067]

>>5723036
Concerned about the treatment of animals, I guess I should have said.

[Anonymous No.5723070]

>>5723061
You understand what I was trying to say.

[Anonymous No.5723096]

>>5723061
quite the contrary, raising animals is the only thing that can save the environment at this point.

in the past, large herds of wild animals would trample tall grass flat and cover the soil, protecting it from the sun.
now desertification is rampant, and "protected" areas where wildlife was moved or killed to prevent its spread has only exacerbated the issue.

herds of large animals no longer exist in sufficient quantities to trample enough grass, farmed animals are the only solution.

[Anonymous No.5723102]

>>5723096
You are literally fucking retarded.

[Not him No.5723106]

>>5723102
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpTHi7O66pI

[Anonymous No.5723113]

>>5723102

not that guy but I learned the exact same thing in a food culture class

[Anonymous No.5723114]

Bump

[Anonymous No.5723127]

Black beans (prepared with tomato, chili powder, lime, onion, sweet corn, etc), homemade bread, soups with barley and lentils and split peas, whole wheat pasta either eaten with just herbs or with tomato and chopped olives, oatmeal, any kind of fruit, steamed or roasted greens (brussel sprouts, broccoli, spinach, asparagus), baked sweet potatoes, chickpea tacos in corn tortillas, and as treats I have stuff like dates filled with puree'd walnuts or a banana speckled with crushed pecans and salted sesame seed powder

I take a more healthful approach, but if you're not as interested in health, you can of course add oil and sugar and whatnot wherever you want. I think most people are familiar with enough foods that are vegan or that can be easily made vegan, you just aren't used to thinking of them as "vegan food." A simple peanut butter and jelly sandwich for example, is vegan.

[Anonymous No.5723164]

>>5723025
If you're actually concerned for the environment, omnivorism is absolutely the best. Eat common, local food stuffs. Basic veggies, eggs, common meats, dairy. Anything that does not have to be flown/sailed/trucked in from around the world.

[Anonymous No.5723171]

>>5723164

What about eating local AND vegan?

[Anonymous No.5723173]

>>5723061
>implying the way we raise our meat currently in any way whatsofuckingever helps the environment
>implying we couldn't grow trees to trap CO2 and rectify the problem
>implying we have to kill and eat the animals in order to get the positive effects of their lives
>implying you know what the fuck you're talking about
This guy right here folks

[Anonymous No.5723175]

>>5723173
was for
>>5723096

[Anonymous No.5723212]

>>5723171
Enjoy your malnourishment. If you want to get all your necessary nutrients on a vegan diet you're going to be relying on a lot of varied and exotic foods.
If you live somewhere tropical you can probably do it, but for temperate regions you're shit out of luck unless you want to live on potatoes or something.

[Anonymous No.5723220]

>>5723212

>locally grown grains
>locally grown vegetables
>locally grown fruits

It's not like you need specific foods to get nutrition from. Most people throughout history have lived like this.

[Anonymous No.5723222]

>>5723220
most people throughout history have died at 40 from overwork and poor nutrition.

[Anonymous No.5723230]

>>5723220
Tropical fruits are notably better though for complete nutrition. Where you going to get your fat without things like avocados or coconuts or macadamia nuts? You can't just grow anything anywhere, unless you want to build greenhouses and shit, but then there goes your environmentally friendliness.

[Anonymous No.5723236]

>>5723230

>Where you going to get your fat without things like avocados or coconuts or macadamia nuts?

Grains/fruits/veg. Why would you need to eat particularly fatty foods to get fat?

[Anonymous No.5723257]

Get the Forks over Knives app. It has lots of good recipes.

[Anonymous No.5723320]

>>5723222
That's actually not true. Population predictions are heavily affected by infant mortality rates.

[Anonymous No.5723326]

>>5723257
>$4
ye

[Anonymous No.5723329]

>>5723257
>i won't eat animals but i will use a highly toxic, non-recyclable and non-biodegradable computer device manufactured by south-asian slave labour to plan out which grasses i chew

nice priorities, bro

[Anonymous No.5723353]

>>5723329

>I'll do both and judge you anyway

[Anonymous No.5723500]

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[Anonymous No.5723666]

I eat fried bananas errday

[Anonymous No.5723692]

>>5723113
>animal exploitation apologists

[Anonymous No.5723699]

>>5723164
Locovores are literally the worst

[Anonymous No.5723800]

>>5723025
My diet consists of a lot of bean burritos, a lot of smoothies (which contain everything from fruit to beans to greens), pasta and vegetable dishes, curry, salad, greens, oatmeal, fried tempeh, scrambled tofu, potatoes, sweet potatoes, stir fries (pasta and veg, beans and veg, veg on rice), noodle soups.

Today I kind of pigged out because I went to vegfest in Bethlehem, had a bunch of doughnuts and pizza and hotdogs.

I focus more on eating healthy and high calorie now though. I used to eat a lot of soups. Soups are great, but not as calorie dense

[Anonymous No.5723879]

>>5723025
>How do you live without delicious meat?

[Anonymous No.5723899]

>>5723879
But I do eat it raw...

[Anonymous No.5723901]

>>5723879
eat all yer veggies and grains raw and without seasoning faggot

[Anonymous No.5723915]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLqjLn0W5K0

Let this rastafarian man explain your food options

[Anonymous No.5723944]

>>5723879

>You use seasonings to make meat taste better!

>It must taste awful, then!

I could easily say the same about plant products, fag master.

[Anonymous No.5723952]

I'm not vegan because veganism is for dumbasses. Falafel happens to be vegan, though, and it is DELICIOUS.

It's best when you make it by crushing whole chickpeas yourself, and always fry it. Baked falafel never comes out as good.

[Anonymous No.5723953]

>>5723944

But you season the plants with more plants

[Anonymous No.5723960]

>>5723879
>>5723901
>>5723944

Almost all vegetables can be improved by cooking them with animal products (butter, bacon fat, cheese, etc).

[Anonymous No.5723979]

>>5723944
Their point is that the good flavors are still coming from plant matter. The stipulation that cooking the meat at all means that you don't like the taste of meat is kind of silly, though. Seared meat has a singular taste that can't be accurately replicated, with or without seasoning. There are plenty of raw meats that taste great as it is.

[Anonymous No.5723992]

>>5723960
that's what the point is?
lol
fucking collards and hocks mang

[Anonymous No.5724095]

>>5723952
>veganism is for dumbasses
This hurts my feelings anon. Please apologize.

[Anonymous No.5724171]

>>5723036
>murica

[Anonymous No.5724200]

For all the people in this thread arguing that veganism is for idiots, please explain your viewpoint.

It's so goddamn easy to do it if you know how to cook and aren't literally retarded, and there's no logical reason not to do it unless you have really demanding dietary requirements.

[Anonymous No.5724217]

>>5724200
>there's no logical reason not to do it

Yeah so ignoring opposing arguments doesn't make them not exist.

[Anonymous No.5724235]

>>5724217
Enlighten me then. What are your "logical reasons" that people shouldn't be vegan?

[Anonymous No.5724260]

>>5723320
I'm amazed people other than me are smart enough to know this

[Anonymous No.5724275]

>>5724200
>For all the people in this thread arguing that veganism is for idiots, please explain your viewpoint.

you're applying christian ethics to animals, for one

[Anonymous No.5724277]

>>5724200
There's no logical reason to do it, either.

[Anonymous No.5724322]

>>5724277
>not contributing to the destruction of our environment
>not contributing to the horrific treatment of innocent animals (and not simply the ones that are killed for meat. Being held as slaves for eggs/milk is much worse, in my opinion. I'd rather be dead)

There are a couple. Can you argue with those?

[Anonymous No.5724325]

>>5724322

It's also good for you if done properly

[Anonymous No.5724327]

>>5723329
I'm not an ethical vegan. I'm vegan-because-I'm-bored vegan.

[Anonymous No.5724358]

Are you this vegan?
>>>/p/2391091

[Anonymous No.5724362]

>>5724322
>>not contributing to the destruction of our environment

Eating meat doesn't have to destroy the environment. We could in theory, do more conservation.

It isn't as black and white as "people cut trees to farm cows"

We could just raise fewer cows and have more farm raised fish. You can raise a lot of fish in the space one cow needs.

>>not contributing to the horrific treatment of innocent animals (and not simply the ones that are killed for meat. Being held as slaves for eggs/milk is much worse, in my opinion. I'd rather be dead)

again, this isn't automatic. We could just stop having animal farms, and focus on hunting and fishing, while capping the market so the population stays healthy.

[Anonymous No.5725004]

>>5724362
>any of that ever happening with the current demand

[Anonymous No.5725188]

>>5725004

thats on people. It isn't the meat eating that is evil. Its how we go about it.

[Anonymous No.5725214]

>>5725188
That's why there are vegans.

[Anonymous No.5725383]

>>5725214
>That's why there are vegans.

Maybe, if you are an aspy.

You could hunt. You could try to do farm to the table. You could raise your own chickens if you live in a rural area. You could fish.

And no one is talking about how modern farming is almost as bad as livestock. Huge swaths of Forrest land, cut for crops. You don't think lots of birds, squirrels, deer and other small animals died so their would be space for your vegetables?

[Anonymous No.5725446]

>>5725383
Most of the crops are used as feed.

[Anonymous No.5725480]

eat what you want, drink what you will (don't forget water) nothing wrong with vegan. I have good and godly friends who are (vegan) and many vegetarian the older I get the less meat I eat. there are no "sides". don't be an IN YOUR FACE stupidorian. I'm gonna have brown rice and broccoli for supper. not 'cause I was told cause I like it tomorrow might eat a hamburger. none of your or my business. sigh.one thing to rmembrr food shelter sex, like faith hope and love.

[Anonymous No.5725487]

>>5725446
>crops that humans use a small part of, but the rest is fed to animals
>crops that are unsuitable for human consumption but are grown in land unsuitable for sustained growing of food crops

Also it's not like meat is the only thing animals are used for. Would you prefer we use plastics for glue/ 'leather', etc.?

[Anonymous No.5725492]

>>5725446
I like how Ireland is all 'feed and fuel', despite the 'feed' being fields of grass.
Would a vegan have us intensive-farm our land until it's barren?

[Anonymous No.5725497]

>>5723879
>oh yeah if meat tastes so good why don't you cook it wrong and see how good it tastes then?

[Anonymous No.5725855]

>>5725446

so asia lives off of air?

[Anonymous No.5725893]

>>5723025
Part time vegan here, as in I cook vegan at home, but when I go out all bets are off. (Works to keep my middle ages ass trim and off cholesterol meds). Some of my favorite dishes to cook and eat at home are:

sesame rice noodles with cucumber and chopped peanuts
ratatouille
Andalusian chickpeas and spinach
rajma
Black eyed peas and Swiss chard in olive oil, garlic and lemon
simple pasta pomodoro with garlic and fresh basil
red lentil soup
guacamole
chana masala
caponata