/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.5669786]

Speaking from a pure health standpoint, is there a single reason to eat any meat other than fatty fish (sardines, salmon) 2-3 times a week?

[Anonymous No.5669792]

>>5669786
pork ribs are very tasty and have positive benefits for mental health

[Anonymous No.5669809]

protein

[Anonymous No.5670448]

Fish can have significant amounts of pollutants in them. Depends on what sea they lived in.

http://www.nrdc.org/health/effects/mercury/guide.asp

So, specifically from a pure health standpoint, eating nothing but fish for your meat could be very bad or just fine - depends entirely on what fish you eat.

[Anonymous No.5670453]

From a mental health standpoint, eating the same sort of meal often can lead to depression and irritability, so eating something other than fatty fish as your meat every now and again can stave off that sorta thing.

[Anonymous No.5672298]

>>5669786
who is this guy? I see him posted on reddit all the time, is this guy some kind of a maymay?

is he the 3chin hair maymay?

[Anonymous No.5672663]

>>5672298
>I see him posted on reddit all the time
redditor detected

[Anonymous No.5672666]

>>5670453

Why does "something other than fatty fish" also have to be meat?

[Anonymous No.5672667]

>>5670448

Or more broadly, eating meat could be bad for your health

[Anonymous No.5672692]

>>5669786

From a health standpoint no if you upped that to at least one portion a day. As much as I like eggs and meat, in theory a diet made up solely of fish, raw fruit and raw/steamed vegetables is the optimum for health (according to current research.)

Mackerel and trout are other great oily fish btw.

[Anonymous No.5672700]

>>5672298

[Anonymous No.5672702]

>>5672667

except oily fish is extremely good for you and even biased vegan think tanks have been unable to produce research suggesting otherwise. Regular fish consumption is characteristic of all the societies with the highest life expediencies.

Veganism, on the other hand, is consistently linked with a range of nutrient deficiencies.

[Anonymous No.5672704]

>>5669809
I'd like to point out that animal protein is more biologically available than plant protein making it a better source of protein than plants.

[Anonymous No.5672712]

>>5672702

>>expediencies

fucking autocorrect.

Also, on a vegetarian diet you have to really go out of your way to get enough omega 3, protein and b vitamins to meet your body's requirements

[Anonymous No.5672713]

>>5672704
eating game meats is healthier than the traditional pork and lamb crap from the shops (i really like lamb though)

[Anonymous No.5672714]

>>5672702

Fish is the best form of meat no doubt, but until a fish-heavy diet cures heart disease, we don't have much to argue here. Grains, beans, fruits, and vegetables are the cornerstone of health.

[Anonymous No.5672715]

>>5672713
So long as you eat meat.

[Anonymous No.5672719]

>>5672298
jerry messing

[Anonymous No.5672724]

>>5672712

>Also, on a vegetarian diet you have to really go out of your way to get enough omega 3, protein and b vitamins to meet your body's requirements

What do you base that on?

[Anonymous No.5672736]

>>5672704

Animal protein has been linked to cancer though, and the package the protein comes in is also important. Animal sources of protein have no fiber or phytochemicals, contain cholesterol and usually significant amounts of saturated fat, and sometimes compounds like carnitine that increase atherogenesis.

[Anonymous No.5672742]

>>5672724
Not him, but its based on actual science.

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/3/586s.short

[Anonymous No.5672753]

>>5672742

If anything that single study is saying vegans have better nutrient intakes. Nothing about omega-3, nothing about protein, the only concern was vitamin B-12. Meanwhile vegans generally get more vitamin C, potassium, fiber, folate, magnesium, etc

[Anonymous No.5672755]

>>5672702
veganism is a fuckin religion, doesn't change the that (non fish) meat is probably bad for you. That is why I take fish pills, and try to limit my meat intake to a minimum.

I eat a steak like once a week but legumes&nuts are the bulk of my (and what i considered to be a healthy) diet

[Anonymous No.5672756]

>>5672753
The only thing they eat is roughage, of course they get more. They also have calcium deficiencies that often leads to osteoporosis even among men. Being a vegan really is being malnourished.

[Anonymous No.5672771]

>>5672756

Never seen anything about vegans and osteoperosis, but I have seen plenty about animal protein and osteoperosis.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11124760

It seems animal protein, found only in animal foods, is a risk factor for osteoperosis, while

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19053869

Phytic acid, found only in plant foods, is protective of osteoperosis

[Anonymous No.5672841]

>>5672771
>animal protein, found only in animal foods
i'll need a source on this counter-intuitive statement

[Anonymous No.5672848]

>>5672714

None of those foods cure heart disease either you gormless faggot. Enjoy your early onset Alzheimer's disease.

[Anonymous No.5672856]

>>5672736
Good god enough with the fucking cancer shit. EVERYTHING is linked to cancer nowadays.

[Anonymous No.5672857]

>>5672753

>>Meanwhile vegans generally get more vitamin C, potassium, fiber, folate, magnesium

Things that it is very difficult to be deficient in and in some cases may be harmful in large doses. Also, none of these things are lacking in a varied non vegetarian diet.

[Anonymouse No.5672867]

>>5672857
worked in a crappy kitchen where we'd do garlic bread under a broiler, didn't have a working oven. They would be perfect after about 1.5 minutes, and a piece of charcoal after 2.
Oh yeah and it was a one man show so you wouldn't have the time to just baby-sit it.

[Anonymouse No.5672873]

>>5672867
ahhaha wrong thread somehow

[Anonymous No.5672880]

what fish is fish best for eat?

[Anonymous No.5672885]

>>5672857

>Things that it is very difficult to be deficient in

I know atleast fiber and potassium are. Less than 98% of Americans don't meet the RDA for potassium

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22854410

The average intake of dietary fiber barely meets half of the recommended minimum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22709768

>Also, none of these things are lacking in a varied non vegetarian diet.

As long as your "non vegetarian diet" is mostly vegetarian. The more plants you eat, the better. all the way up to entirely plant based eating.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9860369

>There was no evidence of a threshold beyond which further benefits did not accrue with increasing proportions of plant-based foods in the diet.

[Anonymous No.5672886]

>>5672771

you really couldn't find anything? Not even when searching for osteoporosis and veganism produces over half a million results?

Damn son, you are pretty fucking oblivious.

http://www.webmd.com/osteoporosis/news/20050328/more-osteoporosis-seen-with-raw-foods-diet

WebMD reports here on studies that show vegans have lower bone density and consume too little calcium and vitamin D.

http://www.yourdailyvegan.com/2013/05/14/why-osteoporosis-prevention-should-be-a-priority-even-for-vegans/

This is a vegan doctor on a vegan website warning vegans that they are at risk of osteoporosis

>The year of our lord two thousand one dozen and two.
>being this stupid

[Anonymous No.5672891]

>>5672885

>Less than 98% of Americans don't meet the RDA for potassium

Oops, meant "less than 98% of Americans meet the RDA"

[Anonymous No.5672893]

>>5670448
>tfw like mackerel and ahi tuna

[Anonymous No.5672899]

>>5672885

>all the way up to entirely plant based eating.

where you develop chronic anemia, your muscles waste, your bones crumble and you get dementia.

[Anonymous No.5672904]

>>5672885
>muh one study from 1998

i'm getting sick of you redditors scouring through ncbi and google scholar just so you can win arguments on le 4chens

this is not how science works

the researchers who devoted their time and resources toward furthering the knowledge of humanity did not do so so you could shitpost about veganism on le 4chens

you're damn right i mad

[Anonymous No.5672905]

>>5672886

Am I advocating raw foodism now? How does that apply to what I'm saying? That's a strawman argument

>This is a vegan doctor on a vegan website warning vegans that they are at risk of osteoporosis

Probably because everyone is at risk of osteoporosis. Your claim that vegans are at a heightened risk was false.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19350341

Let's stay calm and discuss things, no need to get mad and defensive about this

[Anonymous No.5672913]

>>5672904

>i'm getting sick of you redditors scouring through ncbi and google scholar just so you can win arguments on le 4chens

I'd be sick of constantly losing arguments too if I was you. Maybe you should change what you believe in the face of contrary evidence

[Anonymous No.5672914]

>>5672913
>I was just baiting after all

k

thread hidden :^)

also ur mums a slut

[Anonymous No.5672915]

>>5670448

Newer research shows that mercury content in a fish is irrelevant as long as the fish has more selenium than mercury as selenium binds with mercury, preventing it from forming the methyl mercury which causes issues in the body.

There are very few fish for which this is true. Swordfish is the only one I can remember.

[Anonymous No.5672921]

>>5672905

>everyone is at risk of osteoporosis

Not me faggot. I eat delicious french cheeses and eggs.

[Anonymous No.5672924]

>>5672921

[Anonymous No.5672945]

>>5672924

tbh, I'd rather die of a heart attack in my sixties than live my entire life as a weak, pathetic and unloved faggot.

As a vegan you will never be able to build an aesthetically pleasing physique. You will either die a kissless virgin or you will have to settle for a 3/10 max potato.

How does that make you feel vegan?

[Anonymous No.5672959]

>>5672945

Come on, doo

[Anonymous No.5673224]

>eat a healthy omnivore diet like a normal person
>work out every day
>some sickly dying vegfag tells me I'm living unhealthy
>mfw

[Anonymous No.5673293]

>>5672945
i refuse to believe people can be this ignorant

[Anonymous No.5673356]

>>5673293
Right? How can people look at the human body and think that attempting to live on nothing but plants is a good idea?

[Anonymous No.5673380]

>>5672945

unfortunately for you, skinny, lanky feminine men are attracting more women than they ever have before.

face it, we are no longer bound to the unrelenting wild. physical strength and a bulky, muscular body are not as coveted as they were in the beginning. we no longer need to hunt... we have supermarkets and cheap food readily available. you either don't get out at all or are lying to yourself if you claim to never have seen a skinny man with an attractive woman.

[Anonymous No.5673388]

>>5673380
>implying that pierced, tatted "non-conformists"
that manage to look identical are attractive.
All i see are androgynous, waif-life drones with stupid hair cuts. That goes for Portland and Willyburg, boss.

[Anonymous No.5673394]

>>5672667
Every god damned thread there is always one.

[Anonymous No.5673397]

>>5673388

you're missing the point. they're together, and they find one another attractive.

therefore vegan =/= kissless virgin.

i eat meat and even i can admit that. and i do find men/women with tattoos and interesting hair attractive, even though i have neither.

[Anonymous No.5673404]

>>5672714
Veganism does not cure heart disease. It gives you a false sense of moral superiority and bad gas. Hey kids, watch as the mal-adapted herbivore tries to claim that the putrid gasses escaping from his short, omnivore's digestive tract don't stink.

[Anonymous No.5673406]

>>5672736
[citation needed}
If it is from natural news or a blog with an agenda, don't even bother.

[Anonymous No.5673412]

>>5673397
>implying that shaving one side of your head is "interesting"...especially when ever other basic bitch in a metropolitan area does it.
>Implying that played out koi/floral sleeves are interesting
>Implying that the obligatory lip piercings/monroe/septum rings are interesting or attractive.
Do you get turned on by piles of scrap metal?

[Anonymous No.5673414]

>>5673404
Is that why vegans always smell bad? Or is it because they typically don't take showers?


What kills me is when they try really hard to simulate eating animal products like veggie burgers and soy cheese. Fucking gross.

[Anonymous No.5673417]

>>5673380
There is nothing worse than a man with no meat on him. I'd rather have chubby over skeletor any day.

[Anonymous No.5673419]

>>5673412

>implying attractive isn't subjective

not sure why you're so defensive.

[Anonymous No.5673420]

>>5673417

meh, i've been with both, i like both, whatever.

[Anonymous No.5673421]

>>5673419
Not sure why you're projecting your defensiveness on to me. I'm being offensive, champ. You're spouting inanity and I am attempting to enlighten you. If you like basic bitches, that's fine, but don't come crying to me when you get crotch rot.

[Anonymous No.5673422]

>>5673414
They also tend not to use soaps or deodorants that actually work, too.

[Anonymous No.5673424]

>>5673421

i'm spouting insanity by stating my preferences... right.

talk about projection...

[Anonymous No.5673551]

All this hate won't stop a vegetarian from living 7-10 years longer than the average person

[Anonymous No.5673583]

>>5672298

[Anonymous No.5673591]

>>5672298
Get out faggot

[Anonymous No.5673616]

>>5673551

that's because vegetarians are more likely to be more health conscious than the average person who is not vegetarian

[Anonymous No.5673626]

>>5673551
7 more years of forcing down wheat grass squeezings I'm soooooo jelly

[Anonymous No.5673657]

>>5673616
And they don't eat meat, which leads carnists to an earlier death.

10/10 of the worlds top health organizations agree meta studies and the science now clearly points to eating meat as being a dangerous activity, with no acceptable level of intake that can be deemed safe. Meat has been causatively linked with 6 of the top 10 leading causes of death in the us, including cancer, diabetes, obesity, and cardio vascular diseases.

[Anonymous No.5673849]

Scurvy. Eat some fucking fruit.

[Anonymous No.5674722]

>>5673417
>reading this on /ck/
i won' take your word for it

[Anonymous No.5674803]

>>5673397

I included the 3/10 potato option if you recall. Stay small and pathetic.

[Anonymous No.5674812]

why do both the veggie-heads and meat-eaters of /ck/ have to be so fucking retarded?