STOP just STOP

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STOP just STOP Anonymous Tue May 13 15:43:10 2014 No.5432809 [Reply] [Original]

I can't take it. Everywhere. I heard my 9 year old nephew say it the other day. My aunt say it. People all over bookface. People on here. People on reddit. Cooking shows. NO. If you aren't Japanese. STOP. SAYING. UMAMI. STOP.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 15:45:59 2014 No.5432816 File: 226 KB, 500x334, ive got your savory right here.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5432809 IT MUST END

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 15:47:02 2014 No.5432818 >Food & Cooking

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 15:49:54 2014 No.5432831 >>5432818 Nice combination! I instantly thought of umami flavors. I'd probably splash this with a little fish sauce to enhance the umami-ness. :)

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 15:52:18 2014 No.5432836 >>5432809 I used to binge on anime when I was in high school in the 90s and I don't remember umami ever coming up. Maybe you should get a passport, Australia.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:02:26 2014 No.5432850 >>5432836 The only reason people who are not Japanese or Chefs who use that word are fucking weeaboos in search of their waifu thinking they are subarashii saying it

Anonymous Tue May 13 16:03:30 2014 No.5432851

spoilers: umami has been an international thing for over thirty years.
yes, savoury has long been a concept in western thought, but traditionally it was never considered a basic taste.
it was the japanese who considered umami a basic taste and made the effort to scientifically prove it.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:05:27 2014 No.5432856 how do you call it? we germans have the wonderful word "Herzhaft" to describe the umami flavour. but i have never heard of an english word to describe it

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:05:42 2014 No.5432857 >>5432809 lets all stop talking about sweet, sour, salty, and bitter while we're at it and knock out all 5 of the basic tastes,

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:06:39 2014 No.5432859 >>5432851 oh yeah savoury i forgot that i knew that word lol

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:06:47 2014 No.5432860 http://vocaroo.com/i/s0OYuTC7j1BN http://vocaroo.com/i/s0OYuTC7j1BN http://vocaroo.com/i/s0OYuTC7j1BN http://vocaroo.com/i/s0OYuTC7j1BN http://vocaroo.com/i/s0OYuTC7j1BN

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:08:03 2014 No.5432865 >>5432809 I think it means it tastes like dirt

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:10:39 2014 No.5432874 >>5432856 savoury

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:10:52 2014 No.5432875 http://www.tofugu.com/2010/10/01/the-100-most-important-japanese-words/ may as well start learning all of this you nances

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:16:50 2014 No.5432894 >>5432875 >nances did you mean nonces? or perhaps nancies? do you also get mad at people for using, say, sauté? entrée? roux?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:17:45 2014 No.5432896 I have never once heard anyone say "umami". I don't even know what it is. Not sure what your on about m8

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:24:55 2014 No.5432909 >>5432850 that is not a sentence. read itg again. it's not a sentence. i doubt heston blumenthal is a weeaboo. >>5432874 savoury is broader than that though. >>5432896 it's the taste of msg.

Anonymous Tue May 13 16:27:25 2014 No.5432917

>>5432850
The problem with this logic is that it assumes recognizing a word from a language implies disproportional obsession with that culture.

I've been to 29 countries, including Japan. You've never traveled more than 50 miles from your birthplace.

If foreign words threaten you you're going to have a very hard time when it comes time to get a job. I suggest you work on that while you're still young and mentally malleable because this is going to become a handicap sooner than you probably recognize.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:29:07 2014 No.5432919 >>5432809 is it ok that I refer to myself as a shokunin and bow to my elders and seniors and speak Japanese as often as I can?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:29:13 2014 No.5432920 >>5432917 Oh look, it's this faggot again. Mr. "I've been to 350 different countries in the past 5 months". You're the worst.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:31:09 2014 No.5432923 >>5432909 its not specifically Monosodium glutamate things like regular glutamate, guanylate, and inosinate all contribute to umami flavors

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:32:09 2014 No.5432924 >>5432909 >savoury is broader than that though. No, it's not. Savory = umami. It's simply the Japanese word vs. the English word. They mean the exact same thing. No different than Rouge = Red, Deutschland = Germany, Juan = John, etc.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:32:47 2014 No.5432925 >>5432923 i know, but it's still the taste of monosodium glutamate. >>5432924 but that isn't true.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:34:03 2014 No.5432926 >>5432924 call someone named juan john over and over instead of their real name and see what happen, they either wont respond or get pissed

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:35:12 2014 No.5432929 >>5432925 Please enlighten me on the ancient and sacred ways of Nipponese cooking, sensai. With such complicated dishes such as rice, fish, noodles, and rice with fish, they must know more about cooking than all other countries.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:35:57 2014 No.5432933 >>5432925 thats like saying all sour flavors taste the same or all sweet flavors taste the same

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:38:05 2014 No.5432942 >>5432920 Cry those tears little baby, I haven't even left the country this year. But I'm sure next time I do it will be to a place you have ignorant opinions about, assuming you've even heard of it.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:41:54 2014 No.5432953 >>5432933 sort of, but if you wanted to explain sour as a flavour you might well say 'the taste of white vinegar'. >>5432929 where the fuck did that come from? savoury is more complex than just a significant presence of glutamic acid.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:44:59 2014 No.5432964 >>5432929 Umami is the taste weebs have in their mouth after a long day of swallowing Japanese cum and eating pocky.

Anonymous Tue May 13 16:51:55 2014 No.5432981

>>5432924
except that's wrong, you moron. All of those words don't mean the same thing.

Savory is an actual herb. It has a specific taste. It's applied more broadly to mean earthy, seasoned flavors.
Umami is the flavor of complex proteins. This mostly refers to "meatiness" but it arises in other situations, like fermented soya in soy sauce and tofu, or in mushrooms.
Poached salmon with rosemary garlic butter is savory.
Medium rare lambchops with only salt to season are not.

Also: Your mother doesn't put red on her face before she sucks 27 johns' cocks. She puts rouge on her face. Some of those johns might be named juan, if a mexican dishwasher can afford a 2 dollar blowjob.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:54:04 2014 No.5432986 >>5432981 #rekt

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:55:12 2014 No.5432991 >>5432981 in that case he was referring to the rouge (the french word for english red) not the makeup

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:58:01 2014 No.5433001 blame kikkoman for marketing

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:59:41 2014 No.5433005 File: 383 KB, 934x1044, 1391731153516.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] who mami here? u mami? cuz I certainly am mami

Anonymous Tue May 13 17:00:37 2014 No.5433010

>>5432981
>Savory is an actual herb

Sorry, I assumed you were smart enough to realize we were talking about the flavor and not the herb. When people are talking about "balls" with respect to sports do you suddenly blurt in and ask why they are discussing dancing?

Umami is the Japanese word for savory (the flavor in case your Autism strikes again--we're not talking about the herb), the same way that Rouge is the French word for "Red".

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:08:12 2014 No.5433025 >>5433010 > Japanese word for savory no it isn't. it is A savoury flavour but not THE savoury flavour.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:09:56 2014 No.5433028 >>5433025 Then what is the Japanese word for just "savory"?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:12:51 2014 No.5433035 >>5433028 kugiwagibah

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:13:06 2014 No.5433037 >>5433025 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami You fucking dumb weeb piece of shit, even wikipedia says it is savory. >A loanword from the Japanese (うま味?), umami can be translated as "pleasant savory taste".

Anonymous Tue May 13 17:14:03 2014 No.5433040

>>5432809
Is the taste of smegma "umami" too, you stupid fucking retard?

Jesus fucking christ, weeaboos these days. Just because you're fucking obsessed over shitty neo-nipponic culture or whatever anime and manga are doesn't mean normal people (read: NOT you) aren't suddenly allowed to say the word. Or do you have yourself in such a high esteem that you suddenly get to be the supreme decider of the words people are and are not allowed to say?

On the off chance you leave 4chan and not disappoint your parents for one day in your shitty miserable life, you'll find people using words from other languages a lot, so you better either get off your high horse or prepare for a whole life of butt-blastedness.

Anonymous Tue May 13 17:15:55 2014 No.5433043

>>5432924
>It's simply the Japanese word vs. the English word
>>5433010
>Umami is the Japanese word for savory the same way that Rouge is the French word for "Red".

Do you actually know any japanese? It sounds like you're talking out of your ass. In fact, I don't think you know very much about linguistics at all.

Anonymous Tue May 13 17:16:00 2014 No.5433044

>>5433037

i don't understand how i appear to be any more of a weeb than you do in this context.

it says it's a savoury flavour. even if it was the only word the japanese had to describe savouriness, it is clear that in the english language, savoury means more than that.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:17:40 2014 No.5433047 >>5433037 Translations are an approximation of the meaning, filtered through the vocabulary and conventions of the translator. semiotics, you moron.

Anonymous Tue May 13 17:18:03 2014 No.5433048

>>5433037

>can be translated

Oh, I forgot that when you're wearing internet-argument-glasses phrases like "can be" are changed to "MOST CERTAINLY DEFINITELY 100% OF THE TIME."

You could have at least quoted the entire paragraph:

>This particular writing was chosen by Professor Kikunae Ikeda from umai (うまい) "delicious" and mi (味) "taste". The kanji 旨味 are used for a more general sense of a food as delicious.

But I guess that doesn't totally support your argument. You know, the one you came up with and are looking for facts to support, instead of the other way around.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:19:12 2014 No.5433052 >>5432856 >we germans Kill yourself poser. You probably grew up in America an your grandfather is from Germany. That makes you a white boy.

Anonymous Tue May 13 17:19:47 2014 No.5433055

>>5433048
>Oh, I forgot that when you're wearing internet-argument-glasses phrases like "can be" are changed to "MOST CERTAINLY DEFINITELY 100% OF THE TIME."
You're right. We need to pay attention to all the nuances of the nip language. It's not just a savory taste, it's a very specific KIND of PLEASANT SAVORY TASTE. It's different than the less pleasant savory taste, the savory taste of Japanese semen, and the savory taste of your turds after eating sushi and pocky.

Anonymous Tue May 13 17:21:44 2014 No.5433061

>>5433055

it is a specific kind of savoury taste. the wikipedia article goes on to explain what kind of savoury taste that is.

you can have a savoury dish with relatively low quantities of umami. savoury is not limited to umami. umami does not simply mean 'savoury'. why you interpret this distinction as a fanatical endorsement of japanese culture i do not know.

Anonymous Tue May 13 17:23:58 2014 No.5433066

>>5433061
>why you interpret this distinction as a fanatical endorsement of japanese culture i do not know.

who the fuck is endorsing Japanese culture in this thread? Nobody. Fuck, it's just a foreign word for one of the basic tastes. Nothing more, nothing less.

Anonymous Tue May 13 17:24:01 2014 No.5433067

>>5433037
You trapped yourself
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savory
>Umami more restricted use
It's specifically glutamate and protein taste. I think of buttermilk biscuits as savory, and mushrooms as umami. I guess meat and fungus is umami, and breads/cheeses are savory. So the correct thing to say is that it's a sub-category. Every rose is a flower, but now every flower is a rose.

>>5433040
>Get off your high horse
Do you read what you write? I'm don't even watch anime or play JRPGs and I use the word umami.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:25:43 2014 No.5433071 >>5433067 >not every flower is a rose

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:26:49 2014 No.5433074 >>5433066 >who the fuck is endorsing Japanese culture in this thread? Nobody. i agree with you, that was my point

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:27:39 2014 No.5433076 >>5433061 apparently any japanese loanwords polluting out pure english language are the mark of weeabism or something. But that seems a skosh nuts. Dude probably lives on a futon couch in his parents basement.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:27:49 2014 No.5433078 >>5433071 every rose has a thorn.... JUST laaiiike UVVVVRUUU naiiiight has it dawwwwwwnnnnn

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:28:42 2014 No.5433082 >>5433078 erry cowboy sings a sad sad song

Anonymous Tue May 13 17:29:41 2014 No.5433086

>>5433076
what are you fucking talking about? everyone is sick of the word "umami"

ooh, mami, ooh mami.... sounds like incest to me.

you can easily say "rich, savory... beefy... NUTTY..." you can say anything, really. Nobody's listening anyway. They're just fumbling with their phone.
> i hate you all

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:30:04 2014 No.5433087 File: 20 KB, 337x300, jewish guy laughing.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >OP makes a thread to feel superior to others >constantly proves how ignorant he is with each successive post

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:31:31 2014 No.5433089 >>5433086 pretty sure there's one guy in this thread who REALLY hates it, and no one else gives a shit, or only are bothered by it the same way they're bothered by the myriad other buzzwords thrown around marketing food.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:33:37 2014 No.5433094 >>5433089 agreed

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:34:19 2014 No.5433098 >>5432923 >distinguighing MSG and glutamate You realize the you get a combination of both the second it hits your tongue, right?

Anonymous Tue May 13 17:34:50 2014 No.5433099

>>5433089
well, i guess if the choices were "not give a shit" and "give a shit", i would be in the non-giving-shit denomination.

But you're right, I hate buzzwords and hipsters. I'm still fucking pissed at you zombies for adopting the word "organic" like it's a good thing. "Oh, these are ORGAAANNICCC oranges."

maybe if you brought me some ogasmic oranges, id be down. I don't want my oranges being made out of organ meat... and your words mean nothing if you just throw them around all the time.

It's like... you ever met someone that loves everyone? "WOW, that's a cool shirt! I LOVE YOU!"

"wow, can i borrow a pencil? WOW THANKS I LOVE YOU SO MUCH"

throwing it around like that, diminishes the value. Stop calling everything organic, umami, and just stop being focused on buzzwords, labels, cliques and other shit.

I feel like Americans + The Internet = My typical Highschool experience (bunch of retards running around pretending to be people they're not)

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:36:00 2014 No.5433100 >>5433098 >combination of both thats why you distinguish between them since they are 2 seperate things. I also listed 2 others to help the point along

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:37:54 2014 No.5433107 >>5433099 yeah while some things are better organic flavor wise not everything else. to me its like generics some things are ok but somethings need to be name brand

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:37:58 2014 No.5433108 >>5433100 >thats why you distinguish between them since they are 2 seperate things Did you never take high school chemistry?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:38:10 2014 No.5433109 >>5433099 8/10. You were doing pretty good when you kept focused on umami, but you overplayed your hand.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:39:33 2014 No.5433113 >>5433099 Organic is a good thing. Organic eggs have firm dark yolks, whereas every FF egg in styrofoam cartons has had a paper thin shell, almost no coloring, and a watery albumin.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:40:15 2014 No.5433115 >>5433113 my eggs are fine and they don't cost twice as much.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:42:13 2014 No.5433118 >>5433115 I never mentioned price. The point was that they were better quality

Anonymous Tue May 13 17:45:06 2014 No.5433122

>>5433113
Okay, if suckers like you exist. What about this.

What If I were to invest in a ranch, where every chicken has their own two story mini chicken condo, right? So they get full yard priveledges, unrestricted access to a game room, but its a sober living, so we're going to keep them off drugs.

I'm going to pet each chicken and sing it lullabies in the morning, and tuck it in at night. Each chicken will have a First, Middle, and Last name and every time they lay eggs, i will mark who's egg that is.

So when you get your $12 dollar dozen of eggs, itll tell you exactly which chicken it came from.
> oh, wow! It's a batch of Chalupa Batmans! Those are my favorite.

so, how does that sound? would you pay $12 bucks a dozen for eggs? I'll even include a photo with your chicken, so you can see what your $12 dollars bought. Over 80% of the profits will go directly into a chicken owned trust fund, to ensure future generations.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:46:43 2014 No.5433126 >>5433122 Can you read?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:47:06 2014 No.5433127 >>5433122 You sound like you're 14 years old. Just some contrarian child. I'm not even the one arguing with you, but I just want you to know how absolutely fucking dumb you're making yourself out to be.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:47:43 2014 No.5433128 >>5433127 >>5433126 just having a bit of fun, lol.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:49:16 2014 No.5433135 >>5433128 >lol just pretending

Anonymous Tue May 13 17:59:47 2014 No.5433158
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>>5432917
>The problem with this logic is that it assumes recognizing a word from a language implies disproportional obsession with that culture.

So the Anglos are obsessed with French culture?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 19:03:27 2014 No.5433250 >>5432831 mmh delish!

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 19:04:39 2014 No.5433254 >>5433052 there are europeans on this board too, you know?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 19:06:30 2014 No.5433259 >>5432856 herzhaft bedeutet auch nichts anderes als savoury umami ist glaube nochmal etwas anderes

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 19:07:37 2014 No.5433263 >stop saying a word that is novel to me and is overtly foreign Only Americans think this.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 19:20:32 2014 No.5433299 >>5433108 took AP chem got a 4

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 19:41:44 2014 No.5433346 File: 256 KB, 440x650, 1358551287654.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5432809

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 19:44:33 2014 No.5433350 >>5433299 >4 What's it like being retarded?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 19:47:41 2014 No.5433356 >>5433350 4s good enough to get college credit. the max score is 5

Anonymous Tue May 13 19:54:25 2014 No.5433376
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>>5433086
>>5433082
>>5433078
Your shitposting suggests that you have no counter.

>>5433122
Chickens get a better quality egg with more movement, less grains, more proteins like crickets and such. They are noticeably different when you break them open. Free range, grazing chickens have dark orange eggs with a yolk that takes more pressure to break than a henhouse, 100% grain fed chicken. Pic related.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 19:56:21 2014 No.5433382 >>5433376 Note that by grazing I don't mean grass--I mean the bugs and seeds in the grass.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 20:04:34 2014 No.5433400 File: 2.43 MB, 266x240, Discarded Waste.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5433376 >>5433376 Holy shit what the fuck have i been eating my entire life. I thought eggs were suppose to be yellow.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 20:43:29 2014 No.5433493 >>5433259 nein umami ist nichts wirklich ein Ding, es ist ein Konzept

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 21:08:04 2014 No.5433542 >>5432991 But he's wrong.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 21:09:06 2014 No.5433546 >>5433542 he's wrong that the french equivalent of the english word red is rouge

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 21:09:41 2014 No.5433549 >>5433067 Uh bro >>5433040 was agreeing with you. He was saying OP is a weeb for thinking that because it's Japanese it MUST be animutards.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 21:11:55 2014 No.5433554 >>5433076 rekt

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 22:46:58 2014 No.5433750 >>5433549 Now I see. I didn't get good sleep last night.

OP HERE Anonymous Wed May 14 00:16:23 2014 No.5433951

>>5433087
First off. I only posted 4 replies before leaving. 9 hours ago. I originally posted this because of the following.

I work fulltime at a Univ in the middle of Missouri (note this). In the past 2 years they put in a "sushi" joint in our food court. They close over the summer. As well as the gaming center.

Today two neckbeards walked by my office complaining about how the gaming center was closed, and how they can't get any of "dat sushi so good and umami". FUCK THAT

This is why I posted what I did. Yes, if you can find the distinction between "savoury" and "umami" all the more to you. BUT NO. if some fucking neckbeards say that some cheap as shit horrible ass 2 day old sushi tastes so "UMOOOMMMY". Then fuck them.

And don't say that this is a shit post thread. There is at least 2 tacobell breakfast threads, a pink slime thread, at least 3 pizza threads, cracker barrell, and some anti-vegan bullshit going on. I imagine that the two fat cunts that pissed me off today are on here tonight complaining about something. Shouldn't you guys be on Star Trek: Online???

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 00:20:19 2014 No.5433963 >>5433951 And B T DUBS... One of the guys was wearing a fucking Patlabor shirt, and the other was wearing a V for Vendetta Shirt or some anonymoose shit. Scum.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 00:23:24 2014 No.5433977 File: 115 KB, 361x330, 421734252.769159.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5432809 >/ck/ : Blogging

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 00:33:31 2014 No.5434004 >>5433951 But they are right, sushi is umami. They were just expressing how umami the sushi was.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 00:45:32 2014 No.5434042 I can't take it. Everywhere. I heard my 9 year old nephew say it the other day. My aunt say it. People all over bookface. People on here. People on reddit. Cooking shows. NO. If you aren't French. STOP. SAYING. BAGUETTE. STOP.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 03:59:48 2014 No.5434358 >>5432874 >>5433259 It's spelled "savory" you fecking bongers.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 06:29:11 2014 No.5434525 >>5432809 no u

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 06:30:30 2014 No.5434527 >>5432809 >what are loanwords HOW FUCKING AUTISTIC CAN ONE OP BE?!

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 06:56:10 2014 No.5434542 >>5432917 you may be right, but you are also a complete faggot

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 06:57:13 2014 No.5434543 >>5432926 john john john John John John! John! JOHN! WHAAAT! You Juan-a hang out this afternoon? ;)

Anonymous Wed May 14 07:18:50 2014 No.5434567
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>>5433951
>>5433963
>I live in flyover land and we just got sushi

And you had to shitpost about it

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 07:51:39 2014 No.5434606 >>5433376 >>5433400 the colour has nothing to do with the QOL of the chicken.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 07:53:58 2014 No.5434610 >>5433951 i guess using umami as an adjective is kind of annoying.

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