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5373792 No.5373792 [Reply] [Original]

Is it possible for a food to contain more calories after being cooked than it has uncooked?

>> No.5373795

>>5373792
frying

or making it easier to digest instead of passing thru

>> No.5373889

OP is a fucking idiot

>> No.5373905

yes. heat activates the calory enzyme making them multiply - tghis is why raw vegan is better

>> No.5373920

>>5373792
ice cold food has less calories than warm food, relatively. it's because the body has to invest some energy to warm it up inside the stomach first before digesting. so cold food is less energy-efficient than warm food.

>> No.5373946

>>5373889
Read the posts in the thread dicklord. There are actually some legit plausible cases.

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>>5373792
Man are you high on stupid?

>> No.5373961

yeah it's a big deal actually

cooking breaks down ingredients so your body doesn't have to

>> No.5374187

>>5373946
>posts
Look, friend. His reply was number 2, which means there could be only one post before his that would answer the topic.
Nor did he claim the above post was wrong, just pointing out that OP is a fucking idiot at that time.

>> No.5374199

>>5373920
>ice cold food has less calories than warm food
no

>> No.5374204

>>5374199
Did you read the rest of his post?

Cooking does not increase calories, unless you add something like butter/oil/etc.

>> No.5374644

No, in fact it will always be less because some of the food is always vaporized as part of the cooking process.

>> No.5374651

The total number of calories might not increase, but the number of calories available to your body after digestion will go up in some cases after cooking.

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>>5374651
this

>> No.5374700

>>5373792
No.

>> No.5374725

>>5373961

this.

a potato that's been thoroughly baked is more fattening than than a minimally-cooked, still crunchy potato.

undercooked potatoes have resistant starches that you can't digest. you'll just pass them.

a well-cooked potato = simple starches that you digestive enzymes will immediately turn into pure glucose. super fattening.

>> No.5374746

>>5374199
I wrote:
>relatively

>> No.5374959

>>5373792
I have a new fetish
>thanks Obama

>> No.5375192

>>5374725
If this is true then why did do many Irish starve?

>> No.5375197

>>5373920

the difference is so negligible it's not even worth mentioning

>>5373795

this is the answer, and the latter is also negligible but less so than cold vs hot food

>> No.5375206

>>5375192

they starved in the potato famine you mong

>> No.5375511 [DELETED] 

>>5375206
And I thank God for it every day. Can you imagine what the world would be like if all those potato niggers had lived?

>> No.5375524

>>5375197
It's actually fairly large

>> No.5375551

>>5375511
Yeah, you wouldn't be posting this from America because all your ancestors would have stayed in Ireland.

>> No.5375560

>>5375206
Then they shouldn't have been such picky eaters

>> No.5375563

>>5374725
Really? Then how come high carb vegans eat massive amounts of cooked potatoes and they're still thin?

>> No.5375563,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>5375511
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>> No.5375842

>>5375560
you're a retard, the english were taking all the other food.

>> No.5376015 [DELETED] 

>>5375842
TYPICAL LIBERAL GAY parent WHo voted for obama and is irish.

GO BACK TO EUROPOOR you fucking commie PIG! *flips over table* *pulls out gun* YOU fuckiing ungrateful SCUM! *shoots in head*

Now your GOOD! NOW! jesus loves you.

>> No.5376022

If by cook you simply mean add heat (not frying), no, though it has the potential to make things easier to digest and make its calories more easily absorbed by your body

>> No.5376024

>>5374725

>simple starches that you digestive enzymes will immediately turn into pure glucose. super fattening.

Just like white rice and all those obese asians, right? Glucose = energy for the body, extra glucose = glycogen to be stored in the muscle cells for later use. Fat = fattening.

>> No.5376032

>>5373792
yes because "Calories" arent an actual thing. A calorie is a measure of heat.

>> No.5376038

>>5376032
no, calories are a measure of energy

>> No.5376044

>>5376038
no energy creates the heat. A calorie is a measure of that heat. Google Calorite definition if you want

>> No.5376048

>>5376044
The name calorie is used for two units of energy.

The small calorie or gram calorie (symbol: cal) is the approximate amount of energy needed to raise the temperature of one gram of water by one degree Celsius.[1]
The large calorie, kilogram calorie, kilocalorie, dietary calorie, nutritionist's calorie, nutritional calorie, Calorie (capital C)[citation needed] or food calorie (symbol: Cal, equiv: kcal) is approximately the amount of energy needed to raise the temperature of one kilogram of water by one degree Celsius. The large calorie is thus equal to 1000 small calories or one kilocalorie (symbol: kcal).[1]
>1 kilocalorie =
4184 joules
it is a unit of energy, like the electron volt is a unit of energy

>> No.5376199

>>5376048
lel #rekt

>> No.5376322

>>5376044
Heat is the perception of ambient kinetic energy, tard.

>> No.5376795

>>5373792
>2014
>still believing in imaginary food points
>"BUT MUH STICK OF BUTTER MADE ME FAT"
>americans.

>> No.5376796

>>5374651
all depends on what the person ate, what they are used to eating, the enzymes present in the food and stomach of the person, it all depends on things that depend. you can't just say one thing and have it make some fake sense for everything, and account for everyone.

I am Not a doctor. Ask your doctor before doing anything.

>> No.5376801

>>5374725
sadly enough, in the nazi camps alot of jewish people only got potatoes and they were starving and skinny.

it wasn't a balanced diet, even though potatoes have lots of potassium or something, they didn't get other things they needed.

people get fat on potatoes because they fry them in lard and dip them in sugary tomato corn glue, and then eat a shake and burger next to it.

>> No.5376810

>>5373792

If you cook a potato then cool it down and eat it cold, the resistant starch content increases which means more of the starch is not being digested.

Eating a hot potato, though, you absorb more of that starch.

Even though they're both "cooked" you could therefore get more calories from a hot potato than a cold one, although technically they "contain" the same amount the amount of digestible starch changes.

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>>5376044
funny how

>WE R SCIENTITS
>O LOOK
>SNOOKERS BAR
>LITE ON FIRE NEX TO BEAKER
>CHOCOLA BAR MELT HOT WOWOW
>WATER BEAKER WARRRRRRRRRM
>IT HAS DIS MANY CALPORPIES
>AND WHEN PEPOL EET IT THEY GET DIS MUSH
>BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE FIRE IN THEIR STOMACH

I am Not a doctor. Ask your doctor before doing anything.

>> No.5376853

>>5373920
This is true.
1l ice water has about 30 kcal less than 1l water at body temperature. 30kcal the body has to invest into heating up the food.
But let's be frank, 30kcal do not matter in the slightest.

Eating hot food has the same effect, because the body has to invest energy in cooling the food down to body temperature, before it can digest it (yes, it cannot digest hot food). Per degree of temperature difference, the body has to invest more energy to cool it than it has to invest to heat it.
But still, unless you're drinking 60C warm water on a warm day by the litre, this energy expenditure is insignificant.

The most significant factor is digestibility.
A lot of foods are easier to digest when cooked. Some can only be digested when cooked. Others soak up water, and lose calorie density. Some lose calories into the cooking water (usually you prepare them differently for that reason).
But in general, cooked foods are easier to digest, so the body has to spend less energy on digestion. That effect can range from 0 to ~20% of the net calorie worth of the food.

>> No.5377440

>>5375197
>>5375524
I calc'd the energy I lose by drinking cold water in a day and it came out to, like, 120 kcals. Heat is the most effort-efficient method of expending energy.

>> No.5377453

>>5377440

i think >>5375524 was talking about the energy cost of digestion.