/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.5332648]

Why is it that Britfags always get indignant about American cheese slices and don't understand grilled cheese, when grilled cheese is just the American equivalent of beans on toast?

[Anonymous No.5332681]

>caring about what britbongs think

[Anonymous No.5332688]

>Not putting beans on your cheese toasties
>Not stirring lea and perrins into the beans

It's like your gay or something

[Anonymous No.5332833]

>implying anyone cares about this feud outside of /ck/

[Anonymous No.5332862]

>>5332648
>when grilled cheese is just the American equivalent of beans on toast?

Actually it's the American equivalent of cheese on toast.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese_on_toast

(We brits fucking love toast)

The only issue we have is with the cheese you use, it's gross. Why can't you just grate some real cheese and use that?

[Anonymous No.5332878]

>>5332862
Honestly, in some parts of the country, it can be difficult to get good cheese. I grew up in Wisconsin, and didn't have what passes for cheese in other parts of the country until I was 21.

That shit's grim... It is getting better, though. The availability of good cheese, I mean, not that bad cheese.

[Anonymous No.5332885]

>>5332688

I fucking love you. Amerifags will never understand the amazing godness of Lea and Perrins. I feel sad.

[Anonymous No.5332895]

>>5332878

Dude, European foods are the best, such an amazing diverse flavour of different foods.

>Continental sausage.
>British cheeses
>Sunday dinner
>Chorizo sausage

[Anonymous No.5332917]

>>5332895
>>5332895
We have access to all of those things here. Just because the public perception of American food is that it's a over-processed hellscape doesn't mean that's true for everyone who lives here, or in all areas.

The only thing irritating about it is that the availability of decent food took a hiatus for a few decades, so now anything of good quality is described with superlatives - it's all "heirloom, artisan, craft" etc.

[Anonymous No.5332922]

>>5332895
>implying American's don't have the most diverse selection of food in the world

[Anonymous No.5332930]

>>5332862

Which is better? Cheese on toast or a grilled cheese?

How do you make cheese on toast?

[Anonymous No.5332934]

>>5332922
>implying American's don't have the most diverse selection of food in the world

Everyone in the first world has access to a diverse selection of food.

This is another reason people find Americans annoying, their assumption that access to international food stores or ethnic restaurants is somehow exceptional instead of a basic expectation.

[Anonymous No.5332939]

>>5332934
I've talked with people in yurope and that's not the case at all.
No where near as much as we do
Most brit bongs I've talked to doesn't even know what an authentic mexican burrito looks like

[Anonymous No.5332946]

>>5332939
Or good ol' fashioned murrican food like bbq, fried chicken and shit

[Anonymous No.5332948]

>>5332885
I don't know a single American that uses worcestershire sauce that's not Lea and Perrin's. You're ignant as fuck.

[Anonymous No.5332961]

>>5332939
>>5332946
>>5332948
europoor commentating on american ignorance but is talking through his own ignorance

[Anonymous No.5332969]

I don't care how much you hate processed cheese product, if you aren't using American cheese you aren't eating a grilled cheese sandwich.

[Anonymous No.5332982]

>>5332939
>Most brit bongs I've talked to doesn't even know what an authentic mexican burrito looks like

Because British people have Indian food which is spicier and tastier.

There are hundreds of Mexican restaurants in the UK, but they are not as popular as Indian food.

[Anonymous No.5332987]

>>5332982
>we don't have mexican food because we like indian food better
>we have mexican food
ya ok buddy

[Anonymous No.5332990]

>Not putting beans inside your grilled cheese sandwiches

[Anonymous No.5333000]

>>5332917
I don't think you have access to the quality. Regardless of what you say, you can't beat local made food which is native to the country..

Just like we can't make burgers like you fat-asses do ;)

[Anonymous No.5333004]

It's so simple.

>Grill one side of the bread
>Turn bread over and butter.
>Place your desired cheese over the buttered side, sliced of course.
>Put back under grill and cook till cheese bubbles. Can flick some Lee and Perrin's on before or in mid cook.

[Anonymous No.5333016]

>>5332982
>but they are not as popular as Indian food

Because your Mexican is shit. Your Indian is semi-sweet and fake shit too, mostly cooked by Bangladeshi and Paki filth. I've had it alot in Britain because
>Oh anon, you simply MUST try a curry if you try anything in the UK

and I was disappointed. Honestly its better in Germnany

[Anonymous No.5333019]

>>5332969
I don't care how much you hate ruining steak, it's not steak unless you cook it well done and serve it with Heinz catsup.

[Anonymous No.5333034]

>>5332648
>when grilled cheese is equivalent to beans on toast
you just went full retard, OP

[Anonymous No.5333054]

>>5332648
Beans on toast? Why the fuck would they do that?

[Anonymous No.5333058]

>>5332862
We have normal cheese idiot.

[Anonymous No.5333059]

>>5333034

>cheap, incredibly simple and quick hot meal, probably fed to you a lot as a kid by busy parents and as a result eaten as something of a comfort food despite its objective mediocrity

they're not that alike from a culinary perspective but the role they fill is pretty much the same

[Anonymous No.5333064]

>>5332917
This. Where I live in America nearby there's an Indian restaurant, sushi, Korean BBQ, independent and good as fuck deli, a legit burger joint etc. And that's just in my city.

[Anonymous No.5333068]

>>5332934
Wtf are you talking about? I don't know a single person that doesn't try many different types of food.

[Anonymous No.5333066]

>>5333016

The fuck..you want a carvery not a fucking curry.

[Anonymous No.5333070]

>>5333059
ok now I get you

[Anonymous No.5333078]

>>5332878
>Wisconsin
>not the cheese capital of America
>thinking craft singles is "real" cheese

[Anonymous No.5333085]

>>5333066

Had a "proper Sunday carvery" too. Now THAT was fucking delicious. Simple, hearty, honest food. That's what Brits are good at.

[Anonymous No.5333110]

>>5333085

Good to hear Anon, we literally have thousands upon thousand of pubs which serve that kind of food. Carvery is the best food here, and the Full English Breakfast too.

[Anonymous No.5333127]

>>5332648
Besides being an obvious bait thread, we do eat Grilled Cheese in the UK too, they're called Cheese Toasties, I've never heard of anyone being indignant about them in real life. They're generally made using cheddar, and they're common enough to be a thing but not common enough to be common.

[Anonymous No.5333128]

>>5332930
grilled cheese is superior in my opinion. i would take rarebit over either; although that's a much more complex cheese/toast solution

[Anonymous No.5333133]

Obviously because the Brits will never get over being defeating twice in wars and the USA is only nation to defeat them in order to make our own nation and get over their stupid empire.

They'll always think of us as colonials, but they always need our help. Figure that shit eh? We'll always give it too, the wars are over brits, but they'll never get it.

[Anonymous No.5333148]

>>5333128

>rarebit

my nigga

[Anonymous No.5333158]

fucking hell its just cheese and bread

calm down you mongs

[Anonymous No.5333162]

Wouldn't a grilled cheese be more comparable to the fries on bread thing?

[Anonymous No.5333163]

>>5333128
How about a rarebit on a grilled cheese?
That sounds good to me.

[Anonymous No.5333186]

>>5333078
Reread my post more carefully.

I grew up on good cheese, and didn't have bad cheese until I was an adult.

How is that fucking ambiguous?

[Anonymous No.5333195]

Because there are a tiny handful of foods that Brits actually do well. These are: beer, pies, and cheese.

We get so defensive when someone does one of these things badly because we need to cling onto every last bit of superiority we can.

[Anonymous No.5333207]

>>5333195
Other than burgers What do Americans do well?

[Anonymous No.5333213]

>>5332862
>it's the american equivalent of cheese on toast
no it's not
the American equivalent of British Toast Breakfast is Bagels and their various toppings

[Anonymous No.5333215]

>>5333207
>this is what Bonglanders actually believe

Yeah, that's right mate, we do roast din-dins and full English brekkies, those Amerifatties do burgers and hawt dawgs, am I right?

And then there's the Spanish - they do paella. And Italians - pasta and pizza. French? Uhh, umm, I dunno, but it's supposed to be good, I think! Oh yeah, onion soup, that's it!

Yes, each culture has between one and three dishes that they make, and all of them can be made to total authenticity, in a typical English kitchen with electric hobs and a Teflon-coated wok.

[Anonymous No.5333220]

>>5333207

a lot of fuckin' things, but you have to be more specific, because we're a big country with a lot of distinct cultures, particularly food-wise.
Spend a week in New Orleans, and I DEFY you to find a single dish that isn't better than anything you ever had in Britain. Go to the dirtiest, most run-down piece of shit place you can find and it'll still be one of the most delicious meals you'll ever eat.

However, there's a logistical problem involved in having something that "America" does well. Because the only things that "America" as a whole shares are things that can be flash-frozen and shipped 1000 miles across the country.

[Anonymous No.5333221]

>>5332648

who gives a shit what brits think? they always think they're superior... the even think their accents don't exist.

[Anonymous No.5333223]

>>5333215
>roast din-dins
>full english brekkies
I thought you were making fun of the british, but that's actually what they refer to their food as

wow

[Anonymous No.5333238]

>>5333220
>Spend a week in New Orleans, and I DEFY you to find a single dish that isn't better than anything you ever had in Britain
except fish'n'chips maybe

[Anonymous No.5333239]

Because non-Americans are obsessed with Americans for some reason.

[Anonymous No.5333241]

>>5333238

That wasn't shitting on Britain, even. Just big-upping New Orleans.

[Anonymous No.5333249]

>>5333238

how about a Full English Breakfast?
Ohh wait....

[Anonymous No.5333257]

>>5332648
>Being surprised that people from one culture regard all other cultures as beneath them and latch on to any evidence they can find of that whilst completely ignoring anything wrong with their culture
>2014
>ISHYGDDT

[Anonymous No.5333323]

>>5332648
Who cares? They're brits.
They're about as useful as pierce morgan on cnn and well he did real well here in the USA.

[Anonymous No.5333326]

>>5333323
>well he did real well here
lol

[Anonymous No.5333345]

>>5332939
>authentic mexican burrito
that shit thing (98% fillers) and it is a shit thing wrapped is not hardly mexican and most certainly not AUTHENTIC MEXICAN
if anything its tourist shit when you find it in mexico.
AUTHENTIC MEXICAN BURRITO pic related

[Anonymous No.5333355]

>>5333239
this

[Anonymous No.5333359]

>>5332648
because you can't buy or get actual american cheese anymore. just processed crap. american cheese is what you get when you take all your bits and bobs of left over cheese and melt them together

[Anonymous No.5333367]

>>5332648
>grilled cheese is just the American equivalent of beans on toast?

No. It's not.

And maybe it's because American cheese is garbage. I use decent sharp cheddar and it's far better. And their beans on toast are great, fggt. Learned of it on a eurotrip and I still eat it at home occasionally.

[Anonymous No.5333382]

>>5333367
>No. It's not.
see
>>5333059

[Anonymous No.5333587]

"Murrican cheese" slices are bland as hell in comparison to Baked Beans. No contest here.

[Anonymous No.5333774]

>>5333587
no one eats this because it tastes good.
we eat it as kids because its cheap as fuck for a billion slices. the tiny ass refrigerators in the middle of the aisle with actual cheese is not only expensive as fuck but tiny.

[Anonymous No.5334559]

I stuck chives on some melted cheddar/toast the other day and it was really nice. Perhaps you should try it.

[Anonymous No.5334680]

>>5332648

Why does nobody address the fact that the american concept of a grilled cheese is to put it in a frying pan and NOT put it under the grill? Typical.

[Anonymous No.5334685]

>>5332688
>cheese toasties
muh niggah.
haven't had these in fuckin years but they're amazing. As a kid the usual additions were onion, ham and or tinned spaghetti bullshit but if I had one now it'd probably include Chili beans and Tuna.

[Anonymous No.5334695]

>>5333054
They're baked haricot beans in a tomato sauce. It actually goes very well. Think of the taste as similar to spaghettios.

[Anonymous No.5334696]

>>5332648
Well, beans on toast is actually beans on toast whereas a grilled cheese is more accurately described as a fried cheese.

[Anonymous No.5334699]

>>5332648
There is no more American cheese. It was a blend that is no longer produced. The closest cheese to classic American is colby. Stop your shitposting.

[Anonymous No.5334701]

>>5332862
>grate
rectangularly sliced tasty or colby cheddar mothafucka. I learned this practice from a brit too.
brits are so fucking good when it comes to unclassy food.

[Anonymous No.5334707]

>>5332885
>Lea and Perrins
Shit's everywhere in the states

[Anonymous No.5334715]

>>5332688
My gay what? Or is English your second language?

[Anonymous No.5334724]

>>5333133
>this entire post

[Anonymous No.5334729]

>>5333239
>being this delusional

There are just as many shit-on-yurop threads as there are shit-on-murica threads. Get over yourselves.

[Anonymous No.5334733]

Jesus Christ this thread. The fuck happened to you /ck/?

[Anonymous No.5334753]

>>5332648
>grilled cheese is just the American equivalent of beans on toast
But it isn't. God help you if you tried to use an American cheese slice to make cheese on toast.

[Anonymous No.5334844]

British food is overly bland but it is still superior to American, or at least the North East coast. The majority of food I tried tended to just substitute blandness with the excessive use of salt, nothing special. Didn't realise that I would have to ask with every meal if I didn't want cheese on top, even with salads.

[Anonymous No.5334846]

Also can most Americans afford to shop for fresh foods in Delhi's? I know I'm a Britpoor but the prices there seemed expensive.

[Anonymous No.5334852]

>>5333064
That's basic in every first world country. Stop being so god damn arrogant. That is what people don't like about Americans.

[Anonymous No.5334855]

>>5333054
Why would you put beans in a wrap? Fucking dildo.

[Anonymous No.5334860]

>>5333220
Do Americans put on an act or is it automatic for you to act this way?

[Anonymous No.5334862]

>>5334860
They don't even know they're doing it.

[Anonymous No.5334879]

>>5333223
Well what would you call a roast din-dins and a full English brekkie?

[Anonymous No.5334934]

>>5333345
Are you stupid?

[Anonymous No.5335277]

>>5334753
it would actually be better
processed kraft singles melt way better than legit cheese and are creamy as fuck

[Anonymous No.5335301]

>>5334862
Leave if you don't like it. Trust me you won't be missed.

[Anonymous No.5335318]

>>5335301
Ultra butthurt ensues.

I'll take his presence over yours any fucking day.

[Anonymous No.5335332]

>"american cheese" slices
>same nutritional value as beans

[Anonymous No.5335339]

>>5335318
You were the one whining shit poster. If you don't like it then leave.

[Anonymous No.5335362]

>>5335332
who the fuck ever said that?

[Anonymous No.5335367]

>>5335339
I was apart of your sobfest ITT. My only post has been: >>5335318

[THE BEAST No.5335396]

OK

one of you guys tell me what the perfect "American grilled cheese" recipe is, I want to try the real thing and then I'll make judgement.


GO!

[Anonymous No.5335398]

>>5335396
There isn't one because personal preferences exist. For me, however, good ham and Monterrey Jack cheese on hearty rye. I've never really liked cheddar for grilled cheese, I think it's not a good melting cheese.

[Anonymous No.5335399]

>>5335396
Butter, american cheese, white bread

[THE BEAST No.5335410]

>>5335399
>>5335398
And that's low and slow in a frying pan - do you fry it in butter or just butter the bread and dry-fry?

[Anonymous No.5335415]

>>5335410
Butter the bread slices. I usually cook it over medium, but never on high. As long as it's hot enough to brown the bread but low enough it'll melt the cheese without burning the bread, you should be alright.

[Anonymous No.5335418]

>>5335410
Butter the bread. medium to med high heat

[THE BEAST No.5335423]

>>5335415
>>5335418
Thanks, guys. This is why I enjoy /ck/ the most.

[Anonymous No.5335513]

>>5335396

>sourdough bread
>whatever fucking cheese you want. I like cheddar.

Cast iron on the stove-top, med-low heat
Oven on a very low setting, rack as far up as it goes.

Butter the bread, on both sides, toss it into the skillet, throw the whole fucking thing in the oven.

15 minutes later, fucking grilled cheese.

[Anonymous No.5335516]

>>5333016
Exactly, they wouldn't know the real shit if it hit them in the face, but can you really blame them for being into it? After all, their native "cuisine" is so bland as hell that anything with actual flavor is a revolution for them. It's funny that they get their nose out of joint about "American cheese", it would fit in perfectly with the garbage they regularly stuff in their gob.

[Anonymous No.5335529]

>>5335516
I'm American, and let them get their nose out joint over ameircan cheese. It's disgusting greasy trash.

[Anonymous No.5335560]

>>5335529
Yep, tasteless greasy garbage just like 99.9% of Brit food (the .01% being imported cuisine toned down for their crap palates), which is why I find it so funny. :)

[Anonymous No.5335572]

>>5335560

[Anonymous No.5335621]

>>5332969
Also, there are two types of american cheese. The individually wrapped crap (processed cheese product), and the deli style (processed cheese).

The latter doesn't have anything in it but real cheese - processing just changes the texture to make it melt perfectly instead of turning rubbery.

[Anonymous No.5335655]

>>5332982
>spiciness determines the quality of food

[Jimmy No.5335768]

>>5334846
Not many people can fly to India regularly for fresh foods.

[Anonymous No.5336215]

>>5334680

We don't call them "grills" here, and "Broiled Cheese" is a shitty name

[Anonymous No.5336219]

>>5334753

a grilled cheese and cheese on toast are totally different things

[Anonymous No.5336251]

>>5332862
How do I make cheese on toast? just grill a piece of bread with cheese on it?

[Anonymous No.5336275]

>>5335423

The most "authentic" way to make it (keeping in mind that it is 'authentic' poverty food more or less) is with butter on pre-sliced white bread with two processed American cheese singles in between.

The way I make them is to throw a piece of deli-sliced ham or two on the hot skillet beforehand, for just a few seconds to brown them a bit and warm it up, then use butter on cracked-wheat or whole-grain presliced bread (really the only presliced bread I eat, I love bread so I tend to avoid wonderbread-type stuff) with two American cheese slices, with the ham in the middle. That's about as good as it gets without pushing the boundaries of 'authenticity'. Any more complex or fancy than that (using good bakery bread, sourdough, cheddar or other nicer cheeses, etc.) and you're not really getting a proper picture of what grilled cheese generally means. Consider my version a "fast-casual"-tier grilled cheese. You're not going to a Michelin-star restaurant, you're eating "whatever I put on your plate, dammit, now shut up and eat before it gets cold". It's for poor, busy people who want a cheap, fast meal for their kids. I think there's a bit of sentimental value in taking it for what it is. I admire people who can look at the world that way.

[Anonymous No.5336298]

>>5336275
>meat
nigga that's a melt.

[Anonymous No.5336303]

>>5336298

shaddap. grilled ham and cheese. I'd call it a melt if there was more ham but we're talking like 1-2 thinly sliced pieces, not thick-cut.

[Anonymous No.5336386]

>>5332885
Fuck I even buy Lea and Perrins in Mexico

[Anonymous No.5336396]

>>5332982
mexico to the U.S is what India is to U.K, culinarily speaking

[Anonymous No.5336397]

>>5332878
>Wisconsin
>no good cheese
Bull fucking shit, you cheesehead. Wisconsin and upstate NY are the only places you can get fresh cheese curds.

[Anonymous No.5336502]

>>5336397
You read it wrong, he said he didn't have crap cheese (i.e. "what passes for cheese in the rest of the country") until age 21.

[Anonymous No.5336507]

>>5332885
Lea and Perrins worcestershire sauce is sold all over the world.

[Anonymous No.5336513]

>>5336396
No. India is a cesspool no matter how you compare it. Mexico is our neighbor and not a shithole.

They have weird druglord shit going on but it's pretty cool. They're trying.

[Anonymous No.5336525]

>>5332878

The fuck? The Wisconsin Greenbay Packer fans are called Cheese Heads. Wisconsin is cheese country. How can you not have cheese here? For fucks sake. There's plenty of cheese in the US and if you can't find it, it's easy as fuck to make.

>2012 Not making your own cheese.

[Anonymous No.5336537]

>>5333000

So all your food is muslim?

/thread

[Anonymous No.5336545]

>>5332648
Cheese toasty vs. grilled cheese.

[Lumen !iiSURE90Gg No.5336549]

>>5332862
The exact same thing is common in America; we just call it cheese bread.

[Anonymous No.5336559]

>>5336549
Stupid for me to say, but you might want to know, after a semicolon you should cap it as a new sentance.

This; That

I get hollared at a lot for that kind of stuff and it just makes me a better writer.

[Anonymous No.5336560]

>>5336275
>It's for poor, busy people who want a cheap, fast meal for their kids.
It's more like comfort food, I think.

[Anonymous No.5336562]

>>5336525
Not only are you the second person who's made that mistake, but he's even already corrected the over guy. He's savaging that growing up in Wisconsin, he didn't realize how bad cheese was in OTHER parts of the country. Read more carefully, bro.

[Anonymous No.5336576]

>>5336562
Oh wait my bad, you're the THIRD person who made that mistake. Jesus, you people.

[Anonymous No.5337516]

>>5332930
you put cheese on toast

[Anonymous No.5338007]

>>5332930
>>5336251

>perplexed americans