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>I'm overweight because healthy food is so expensive!
>mfw I eat healthy as fuark on a $100/month budget and am 150 pounds 6'0"

What are some excuses you see fatties use?

>> No.5298599

>healthy food just has no flavor!

>> No.5298609

>>5298594
>>5298599
My family says both of these things. They're all overweight and are shocked when I tell them how much I spend at the grocery store. Much less than them despite my diet mainly being fresh produce and fish/white meat.

Oh and they hate all the food I cook despite me loving it. I just chock it up to their palates being ruined by processed shit and sugar. Or I could be a terrible cook I guess.

>> No.5298612

>it's genetic
Gets me every time.
I live off of chicken, brown rice, and vegetables. About 100 - 150 a month. Fuck fruit.

>> No.5298610

I don't need an excuse, I like pizza and carbs and burgers, fuck off.

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>>5298612

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>>5298612
>fatty eats 3 dinners in the evening
I don't understand why I'm not losing weight, I only ate a little today.

Yeah, you ate three fucking plates of food in a four hour period AT WORK. God knows what you ate at home.

>> No.5298636

Yeah "healthy food is too expensive" is a popular line in the UK too, but I don't understand how. Maybe because pre-prepared "healthy" food is more expensive than pre-pared shit food.

You can eat very well, and healthy for cheap if you can be bothered to do a bit of cooking.

>> No.5298639

>>5298594
>bragging about being a skeleton

>> No.5298651

>"I can't eat that healthy thing, it has CARBS!"
>proceeds to eat a block of cheese or a plate of bacon

I don't know why every fat person thinks carbs make you fat, but me and every other skinny person eats a lot of carbohydrate

>> No.5298655

>>5298612
I buy spices in bulk and store them in airtight containers when I'm not using them.

I'll make a vegetable and lentil curry, serve it with brown rice and use all excess food budget on extra fruits and vegetables.

>> No.5298659

>>5298594
I honestly don't understand this. In times of extreme poverty I lose a lot of weight because my diet becomes nothing but porridge for breakfast and minestrone for dinner.

>> No.5298660

>>5298651
its marketing YEAH!! it works

>> No.5298663

>>5298651
you've obviously never had to cut, carbs do make you fat.

>> No.5298664

>>5298659
Not in murrikkka, eh?

>> No.5298684

I'm getting fat because I eat more than I burn because I'm a lazy fuck.

I hope to change that. Before I reach 200lbs.

>> No.5298686

>>5298663

>he has to "cut"

Eat carbs, be lean year-round

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8-hFJglwxo

>> No.5298692

>>5298686
My strategy. Works fine, carbs are great.
>>5298663
well, uh, no they don't.

>> No.5298696

fat genes are real, read the news

>> No.5298704

>>5298696
>implying news is unbiased ever

some people have it easier than others genetically, but the only major genetic factor is shitty vs. reasonably decent parenting.

>> No.5298721

>>5298704


that's nurture, not genetics

>> No.5298727

beer and ice cream

>> No.5298729

>>5298651
Diabetes

>> No.5298745

>>5298729

A condition where fat is blockading the muscle cells, not allowing glucose to enter and do its job, leading to a decrease in insulin sensitivity over time. It's not "ate too many carbs syndrome"

>> No.5298760

>>5298745
You idiot. I'm talking about people who have diabetes HAVE to avoid carbs, so they choose low carb foods, despite being high in fat.

>> No.5298771

>>5298760

>I'm talking about people who have diabetes HAVE to avoid carbs

Now that you're educated on what diabetes is, what is your logic for thinking that eating more of the thing that caused the problem will fix the problem, and avoiding what any human is supposed to eat forever is a good idea? It's like being in a room filled with smoke, and instead of clearing the smoke out of the room you just stop breathing instead. That's not how we do things

http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/29/8/1777.abstract

Lower the fat, raise the carbohydrate, your cells open up and your insulin sensitivity improves.

>> No.5298773

>>5298651

It's not that carbs make you fat, it's that they keep you from becoming skinny when you already are fat. They suck for weight loss.

>> No.5298776

>>5298704
>but the only major genetic factor is shitty vs. reasonably decent parenting

>"The only major genetic factor is not a genetic factor."

wut

>> No.5298795

>>5298773

The only time I've seen people struggle to lose weight while eating substantial carbs is when their "carbs" are something like pizza, cookies, potato chips, etc that also have a lot of fat. When you're just eating rice (without butter and meat) and oatmeal (without bacon on the side) and fruit, you drop weight

>> No.5298794

>>5298771
Not every diabetic is the same. Since diabetes is a progressive disease , some people can spike up 200-300 for eating white bread. Diabetics have given up bread at all cost.

Give someone that advice with a horrible diabetic condition and except them ina coma

>> No.5298802

>>5298795

So what you're saying is, people who eat carbs paired with shit that is terrible with you lose less weight than those who pair the carbs with nothing?

>> No.5298805

>>5298794

>some people can spike up 200-300 for eating white bread.
>Diabetics have given up bread at all cost.

You had two separate thoughts here. White bread and bread aren't the same product, they don't have the same effect on the body.

A problem I see with a lot of people these days is media has distorted the word "carb" to mean just refined junk food. No diabetic is going to die from eating lentils and oats.

>> No.5298807

>>5298594
Those people are retards with no self control, what they mean to say is eating healthy is too difficult*.

Difficult being defined as requiring more work than driving though a fast food joint.

They're actually doubly retarded, since fast food is hilariously more expensive than eating healthy.

>> No.5298808

>>5298795

Would you fuck me? I'd fuck me. I'd fuck me so hard.

>> No.5298811

>>5298794
White bread is equivalent to eating a bag of potato chips.

>> No.5298817

>>5298802
Not that guy, but you are wrong. The things eaten with carbs are not necessarily terrible for you.
Take fats for example, eat them without the carbs, and you'll lose weight just as well as carbs without the fat. It's certain combinations that are terrible for you. Fat + carbs is a horrible combination. Carbs + protein = good. Fat + protein = good. Fat + protein + carbs is fine if you can moderate yourself, unfortunately most of the slovenly sort cannot.

>> No.5298818

>>5298627
wait she just eats two loafs of dry bread by themselves?
and then she randomly eats 4 actual sandwiches on top?

>> No.5298826

>>5298594
>>5298171
>I feel like cooking with only the best ingridients is cheaper than tvdinners or fastfood

in that thread everybody said tvdinners and all that garbage premade food that goes in the microwave and stuff like fast food is cheaper than cooking for yourself...

...my only explain is that thy don't know how cook

wow
such edge

>> No.5298841

>>5298817

>The things eaten with carbs are not necessarily terrible for you.

For weightloss, but for general health they are

>> No.5298851

Lardasses have no excuses here where i live.
Local food (vegetables and meat, not that many fruits because north yurop) is cheap and found in every grocery store. Yet the convenience food stalls keep getting more and more shit every year.
Hell they are selling precooked mincemeat.
And it's selling well enough.
People are shit and lazy here. That's all it is.

>> No.5298858

>>5298851

Same. The grass-fed ice cream section has gotten bigger but fat fucks still buy regular unhealthy ice cream.

>> No.5298865

>>5298858
>grass-fed
i only eat grass fed chicken

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>"those healthy portions are too small for a working man!"
>can't keep pace at work because of obesity

>"those healthy portions are fake, no-one could ever keep up with so little food!"
>when talking about a normal-sized McDonalds meal

>I'm following healthy portion size but I just can't loose weight! It's muh genetics!
>portion consistency: 30% french fries or mac & cheese
>40% beef steak, pork ribs or other red meat
>20% "vegetables" steamed or boiled to oblivion and lathered with fat and dairy to hide the vegetableness
>remaining portion of "fruit" turns out to be what Americans call "ambrosia fruit salad"

Seriously, I spent two weeks on a Caribbean cruise last month, and I swear I have never seen as many people using electric carts to just achieve basic levels of mobility. And oh dear, oh dear dear, the amount of gigantic greaseball "hamburgers" they stuffed in their faces at poolside grills...

>> No.5298873

150 pounds at six feet. damn you skinny ass bitch

>> No.5298878

>>5298867
>I have never seen as many people using electric carts
do they have races?
this would be a great spin off for the fast and the furious franchise

>> No.5298879

>>5298867

>>20% "vegetables" steamed or boiled to oblivion and lathered with fat and dairy to hide the vegetableness

This. Fat people always have to put a slab of butter or bacon grease on their greens, their excuse being "need fat to absorb the vitamins," like they think all the other fat in the meal doesn't count and it has to actually be drenching the vegetables as well for your body to digest any fat with it

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>>5298878

The fat and the furious

>> No.5298887

$100 a month, what do you buy?

My food expenditure/month's around there but I eat about 3-4 dollar menu items a week and groceries include cottage cheese, frozen broccoli/spinach/mixed veggie bags, eggs, milk, water, cottage cheese, bananas, peanut butter,chicken, and feta

I'm not /ck/ and I'm getting kinda tired of this stuff, but it's cheap and I can't think of anything else that would fit the bill for me since I'm active and don't want to eat heavy before dinner

>> No.5298898

>>5298887

Buy bulk grains and legumes. I bought a 25-pound bag of brown pardina lentils for $40, and that's like 3-5 months of dinner. You can also save the broth they make and use it for soup with some barley and carrots and stuff

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>>5298883
oh you
>the fat and glutenous

>> No.5298907

>>5298867
>Seriously, I spent two weeks on a Caribbean cruise last month, and I swear I have never seen as many people using electric carts to just achieve basic levels of mobility. And oh dear, oh dear dear, the amount of gigantic greaseball "hamburgers" they stuffed in their faces at poolside grills...

Can't really make assumptions based on a cruise. I'm a healthy weight and eat pretty healthy at home, but when I go on a cruise all bets are off. I'll gorge myself on any delicious food that's available because fuck you, I'm on vacation.

>> No.5298912

>>5298907
do you use an electric cart on cruises too?

>> No.5298915

>>5298898
Damn anon I've never even heard of legumes but I've seen them before, they look delicious! And that's brilliant, lentils are pretty salty though right?

Do you goons have some black magic to neutralize that or should I blue pill with water

>> No.5298920

>>5298912

No, but I will get multiple meals at dinner since it's all included. I'll then tip the nice Filipino gentlemen very well.

>> No.5298922

>>5298915
You've never heard of beans before?

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>>5298915

What the fuck am I reading?

>> No.5298930

>>5298920
>tip the nice Filipino
does the tip give them incentive to visit you in your cabin after their shift and service you for further tips?

how much fondling does a tip bring in?

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>>5298915

>lentils are pretty salty though right?

They're as salty as you care to salt them. If you buy them in cans they probably have a lot of salt, but in dry form they're extremely cheap and the seasoning is up to you

Most of the day I'm eating very low-sodium things like unsalted oats, unseasoned baked sweet potatoes, and fruit, so when I have lentils I put a decent amount of salt on them since my daily sodium intake is still pretty low. Find whatever style you like to eat them in and make them a staple of your diet. Good for the wallet, good for the body.

>> No.5298940

>>5298936
Yeah my dad used to make lentil soup pretty often, guess he was just into sodium.

Thanks for the help dude, can't believe the last 2 years made me forget sweet potatoes existed

>> No.5298945

>>5298940

No prob, bro. And yeah, fuckin' sweet potatoes. I'm practically an Okinawan, I eat like 2 pounds of sweet potatoes a day and I'm still a skinny fuck

>> No.5299000

>>5298907
That's perfectly normal. So did I. But the sheer volume of people who were 300-pounders or worse, and required electric trolleys for basic transportation at an age of 20 to 40-something are the horror I was talking about, not the normal people kicking back and letting loose on a cruise.

The salient point in what I was saying was the sheer volume of fatlord mega-gordozoids to normal people. You just don't see that kind of abject human misery through overfeeding anywhere else than the 'states. Before I went there I was expecting to see women dressed primarily in cocktail dresses, swimsuits or leisurewear but the reality of the matter was that the most common piece of clothing was something akin to a hospital gown in the size of half-platoon tent.

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>>5298594
>150 pounds
>6'0"
Thank you hungry skeleton!

>> No.5300338

I agree with that excuse being fucking retarded OP.
Living off of cheap fresh veges and fruit, canned veges/legumes, frozen veges, cheap cuts of chicken, canned tuna and bulk whole grains is the way to go whether you're trying to lose weight or not. Good fucking luck getting fat off it, and you'll save heaps.

Broke fatty grocery haul tends to be:
>Bacon
>Shitty cereal
>Shitty muesli bars
>Shitty breakfast cereal
>Instant ramen
>White rice if you're lucky
>White bread
>Milk
>Potato chips
>Ice cream
>Ketchup
>I CANT AFFORD HEALTHIER STUFF

>> No.5300408

/fit/ pls go.

>> No.5300419

>>5300408

What does /fit/ have to do with this thread? /fit/ has no idea what healthy food is

>> No.5300429

>I "can't" (won't) exercise!
>It's genetic, there's no point in trying.
>If i do 20 minutes of LIGHT exercise every 4 days or so, i can eat all the crap i want!
>I don't want to eat oat bran and rabbit food.

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5300477

>I started eating healthy, Anon!
>I had chicken with iceberg lettuce and some grass-fed cheese!

>> No.5300500

>>5298627

Genetics plays a role, but not that much.

5'10" 165 pounds here, if I don't watch what I'm eating, I can get fat really faste (never went obese, always hit the gym and diet when I think I'm too fat)

Some people can eat shit and be slim, so yeah, genetics.

>> No.5300513

>>5300429
>tfw just got back into running
>tfw skinny as fucking fuck, very low body fat by normal standards and finding any information on dieting for people not trying to lose their gut is impossible
fucking internet. running = weight loss technique ONLY.
can /fit/ crossovers help please

I eat no junk/fast food, shit loads of veges and enjoy whole grains, oats specifically. I'd say i'm a pretty fucking healthy eater in this respect. I often eat like 1700 and burn 2900 in a day because of this though.. Want some cardio fitness and a half decent runner's amount of muscle in the long term, which won't be achieved by this.

>> No.5300515

>>5300513

Gotta eat more. Keep it healthy though, eat more fruits. If you're running a lot, you're going to want a lot of carbohydrate. Stuff in the bananas and dates

>> No.5300575

>1200 calories a day and no changes in weight
Why? Been a month.

>> No.5300586

THANK YOU HUNGRY SKELETON

>> No.5300587

>>5300575

What are you eating exactly? And how much do you alreaady weigh?

>> No.5300600

>>5298696
Yeah. one in one thousand cases.
I work in a McCafe and this afternoon a bunch of overweight women came in from across the roads public gym and ordered the explosive "health" wraps (2000kj each) and one proceeded to order even a Warm Double Chocolate cake slice with her meal just "coz I deserved it!!"
Its all this stupid thinking. I just worked out so I can have a cake slices now! They don't actually notice how much they're treating themselves by either. Just coz its a wrap doesn't mean it's not 500calories. (It literally is, go look. I'm sure its all in the bread and sauce)
well $1000 bet she's gonna say in 1 months time exercise and healthy eating didn't do anything for her and it was purely genetic.

Made a lot of Skim lattes today. The nerve of the "Caramel Latte" bitch lol

>> No.5300601

>>5298594

>hungry skeleton
>thinks people not underweight can eat as cheaply as him

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I'll admit being a tumblrfag to make this point, but a post has been going around for a while which originally explained that eating junk and general crap was far more expensive, but it gets reblogs for the comment of someone bitching about how it's not cheaper to buy healthy food, and 'omg what is salad you can't live on leaves!!111' and therefore people are 100% right to buy shit food and mcdonalds and whatever else instead of actually buying stuff that's halfway decent.
I just. What.

>> No.5300608

>>5300604

A few times on this board I've seen "being vegan is too expensive!"

I just sit there wondering how any kind of meat could possibly be more cheap than oats and beans and rice and stuff

>> No.5300609

I've been eating clean paired with 2 miles walks since November, but still have a massive as fyck appetite. All I got in the fridge now is giant filter water, half carton non reconstituted orange juice, 3 or 4 eggs some wilted celery and some broccoli plus some frozen turkey chicken and leftovers I stored away. All clean shit by scratch since i stay home a lot I just eat a lot and still have a higher than normal (but not currently overweight category) bmi. I haven't had my favorite croissants since December (f u for making me think about it tho) but I honestly can't eat what I do and feel full on it and not have the constant feeling of passing out after my usual 1 hr exercise or walk round the area

I know its been coz I've been conditioned over the years to not feel full at the usual 80%. I wish I could shrink my capacity but that that bullshit about drinking lots of water and how your body will adjust itself over the months is bogus, I still eat the same and the same weight... I'm trying to fill up on cups of tea now in between meals instead of just the water to take the persistent edge off. Im always think about that edge unless i satisfy it. Eh. Maybe I was born to be a competitive eater lol

>> No.5300612

>>5300587
Same shit everyday mostly, chicken, eggs, whole wheat english muffins/bread, deli meats, random veggies.
Been weighing my chicken to make sure I'm not overeating either.
170 at 5'7".

>> No.5300615

>>5298594
>People actually say "healthy" food ISN'T expensive

This is a fucking joke because buying greens and other good things costs more than getting a burger at a cheap place for a buck. I agree being healthy is good but come the fuck on health nuts. You have the income and the privileged to eat higher quality things. The most fat people can do is eat less and exercise but junk food is cheaper and nothing can change that since they are made with, well, shit ingredients.

Fucking health nuts I swear to God they are some insecure asshats

>> No.5300618

>>5300615
>fatty detected

>> No.5300621

>>5300608
Its the tofu part I thought
I have a friend who tried to go vegan but was only getting about $100 a week (straya) and figured it'd be the vest time to save on cheap ground beef but ended up having to spend double on soy milk, and ended up only eating bags of (surprisingly vegan friendly) Aldi noodles for 2 weeks

I think he's an idiot tho his freezer is tiny so he can't make bulk meals and store them like I do. When you go buy veges for one person its hard cos its like you got to have a whole head of broccoli you need to finish on your own, or a while kg of bananas or whatever. You can't just buy a bunch of different stuff and be economical anymore.
So he quit trying and said he'd save it for when he got more money again.

>> No.5300624

>>5300621

Tofu isn't a requirement in any way. Neither is soy milk

>> No.5300632

>>5298594
>150lbs.
>Healthy.

How about you eat some protein?

>> No.5300633

>>5300615
This. Eat less when poor, because shit nigga you can get a big bag of Doritos and a case of mountain do for painfully cheap on sale.

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>>5300615

>This is a fucking joke because buying greens and other good things costs more than getting a burger at a cheap place for a buck.

Giant bundle of organic kale - $1
1-pound bag of organic carrots - $1
Giant tub of rolled oats that will last you atleast a week or two - $5
Pound of bananas - 50 cents
10 pound bag of brown rice - $8
6 ounce bag of walnuts - $4
Any kind of bean or lentils - between 70 cents and $1.50 per pound
Sweet potatoes - 60 cents a pound
Whole wheat pasta - $3 for a pound and a half dry

Pic related, it's what $3 worth of kale looks like. You could stretch that out to last a week easily. Of course not EVERY healthy food is cheap, certain fruits and vegetables can be pricey (especially berries where I live), but there's always healthy options and they do, in the long run, cost less than junk food. The only excuse one can have is they prefer the taste of junk food and they don't want to put any effort into cooking their own meals

>> No.5300684

>>5300515
Alright, cheers. How much more?
I'm a tall dude and I think i'm still young enough for shit to be burned out of nowhere. At this stage i'm not running huge distances though, so I don't think it's essential to have big meals for specfic runs.
Should I just eat a neglible deficit/surplus so it doesn't really matter, or a bit more than that for gradual muscle without any real fat gain?
I know I said i'm skinny but that doesn't mean I want to bulk being lean into the toilet. Carbs and fruit are like entirely unlikely to have that effect but yeah.

>> No.5300700

>>5300644
Tinned and frozen stuff is always cheap. While being a bit worse than fresh, it's still vegetables. Infinitely better than living off fucking junk food.
I hate that a lot of veges are so damn expensive but I just buy in-season and work with what I have to eat healthy. I'm not rich at all and my grocery bill is loads less than what most poorfags spend. I would spend more for fresh stuff if I could afford to prioritise quality food.

I advise not buying tinned fruit though. "In syrup" removes any health benefits. Just get some cheap apples from a green grocer or something and deal with the extra $1.50.

i'm not a "health nut" either. I like to eat healthy but i'm not a dick about it to anyone.

>> No.5300703

>>5300624
yes I know that's why I said 'I thought'
the dude needs milk tho. he's already lactose intolerant and what else for milk replacement does he put in recipes?

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>>5300684

If you're eating easily digestible food like fruit and exercising, you can pretty much eat all you want, your metabolism is going to burn right through those simple sugars. You want to eat enough that your body isn't going into starvation mode and trying to store fat, which it'll try to do if you're just running and not weightlifting as well

Your best option is to slam in like 10-15 bananas a day on top of your current diet and also do some light weightlifting, otherwise you'll just look like these guys

>> No.5300713

>>5298594
Not so much that healthy food is expensive but cost+time factor together making fast cheap shit a preferable choice.
I'd rather spend half an hour making and eating shit than spend and hour/hour and a half/all day making something healthy. More free time vs longer life are probably about equal free time as far as I'm concerned. I choose to use my free time now while I'm young enough to enjoy it.

So in short laziness and apathy lead me to being perfectly happy settling with shittier food.

>> No.5300717

>>5300712
>otherwise you'll just look like these guys
I think that would still be an improvement for 90% of /ck/.

>> No.5300720

>>5300717

I don't mean it as a bad thing, I just mean if you're trying to get some extra muscle on you, cardio exercise isn't going to do that. Some kind of strength training, even body-weight like push-ups and pull-ups will get you muscle

>> No.5300723

OP leaves at his parents and his bdget is for delivery pizza.

>> No.5300727

>I'm a quadriplegic

>> No.5300733

I ate healthy as fuck for about $2.5 a day for one year. veggies, beans, pasta/cous cous and lentils man.

>> No.5300747

I had a girl in my class who blamed poor genetics and all that. She weighed about 110 kg, which is carnival attraction-mode in Scandinavia.

Then she started to work out on a daily basis, changing her diet around and now is down to a normal weight, and it finally struck her that the genetics thing is nothing but a sad excuse for lazy fat people. She came clean with it being her parents fault for stuffing her with sugar and fat since birth, and of course partly her fault for not breaking the habit earlier.

>> No.5300752

>>5300733
I know that feel anon. Feels good man. Feels good.

>> No.5300754

>>5300723
judging by the way you write, I assume so do you

>> No.5301262

>>5300575
You are lying a bout how many calories you get.