/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.5267235]

anybody know what the secret ingredient (AKA natural flavor ) in sabra hummus is? i'm scared

Cooked Chickpeas [Chickpeas (Garbanzos), Water], Soybean Oil, Tahini (Ground Sesame), Spinach, Garlic, Salt, Citric Acid, NATURAL FLAVORS, Parsley, Basil, Red Bell Pepper, Potassium Sorbate Added To Maintain Freshness, Lemon Juice Concentrate, Spices.


FLAVORS?? I thought they were only allowed one secret ingredient... and it's got to be worse than potassium sorbate... and more of it than parsley or basil... and there's a lot of parsley and basil...

[Anonymous No.5267238]

>>5267235
Palestinian tears?

[Anonymous No.5267277]

>>5267238
lol

[Anonymous No.5267291]

>>5267235
Talked on the phone with sabras hummus people

FUCKING STUPID CUNT

refused to tell me what the natural ingredient is

IT'S PROPRIETARY

give this stupid shit company a piece of your mind 1-8 8 8- 9 9 5 7-2272

[Anonymous No.5267295]

>>5267235
>>5267291

make it yourself faggot it isn't hard

[Anonymous No.5267297]

>>5267295
okay, i'll grant you that

aren't you pissed off about this natural ingredient shit??

SHOULD THEY BE ALLOWED TO NOT TELL US ALL THEIR INGREDIENTS??

WHY?? WHAT IS THIS STUPID BULLSHIT!!!???

[Anonymous No.5267305]

>>5267297

no

[Anonymous No.5267325]

it's probably humans

it's not vegetarian or they would proudly display vegan all over the fucking thing

so, an animal, worse than potassium sorbate

humans

or raccoons or something...

[Anonymous No.5267426]

I would say it is some form of MSG or Liquid aminos.

[Anonymous No.5267447]

>>5267297

>aren't I entitled?!

No. If you want hummus with good ingredients, you make your own. If you want someone else to make your hummus for you, take the natural flavors with it

[Anonymous No.5267452]

>>5267426
this. this is exactly what it is. They add flavor enhancers that are based on natural chemicals, meaning they can say "natural flavors". I'm pretty certain whatever it is, it's in the glutamate family.

[Anonymous No.5267676]

natural ingredients might possibly be a beavers butthole sacks

[Anonymous No.5267700]

>>5267676
This is true, could be.

[Anonymous No.5267717]

>>5267700
watch this video, really related


youtube.com/watch?v=AftZshnP8fs

[Anonymous No.5267720]

>>5267676
It can't Sabra is supposed to be vegemuhterian and kosher. Beaver butt would be neither.

[Anonymous No.5267723]

>>5267720
where does it say that?

[Anonymous No.5267740]

>>5267723
http://sabra.com/FAQ#section-kosher
>All of our hummus and eggplant products are parivar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareve

[Anonymous No.5267759]

>>5267740
what about vegetarian?

I suppose kosher wouldn't allow the butt parts...?

[Anonymous No.5267771]

>>5267717
Agreed with everything until 2:30.
At least it's funny enough to captivate the attention of our liberal youth.

[Anonymous No.5267782]

>>5267759
'Pareve' is generally synonymous with 'entirely fucking vegan unless there's fish in it.' The 'natural flavours' could be isinglass for all I know (as unlikely as it might be for it to actually be isinglass) and it would still count as pareve.

[Anonymous No.5267830]

>>5267782
>isinglass
>hummus

[Anonymous No.5267836]

>>5267452
Msg is alrrady an ingredient.

[Anonymous No.5267878]

just dont buy it you fucking spastic idiot nigger

[Anonymous No.5267890]

>>5267782
Who cares about pareve? Do you really think that GOD will hate you if you don't eat what some rabbi tells you to and think that they're not doing it to keep up their own existance?

They're about as credible as government twats that want MJ illegal so they can charge people extra taxes.

[Anonymous No.5267891]

>>5267830
I was using it as an example of something that's pareve but not vegan. Of course there's none in hummus. That's why I said
>as unlikely as it might be

[Anonymous No.5267925]

>>5267890
>MJ illegal to charge extra taxes
wut
you're dumb
Captcha related:
Reed myspliff

[Anonymous No.5267988]

I want transparency and clarity when it comes to food ingredient labels, no more hidden unnamed "natural flavor/color" tell me exactly what the ingredient is or I am not buying your product.

this is usually the name of an ingredient that they don't want you to know about because it would be unappealing for some reason and make the customer uncomfortable. solution: don't use things like that in your product, and be honest to the customer.

[Anonymous No.5267993]

>>5267988
or just don't buy it. if people wanna eat a secret ingredient made of dog shit why not let them

[Anonymous No.5268008]

>>5267993
at least let the label say "dog poo" so that I can make the choice if I want to buy it or not.

[Anonymous No.5268014]

>>5268008
no. it could be made with gold but if youre uncomfortable taking the risk then don't buy it

what's so great about shitty hummus anyways

[Anonymous No.5268027]

>>5267988
because chemophobia would mean all kinds of useful products would be removed at the demand of whiny iPhone using humanities majors

just look at what they're doing with GMO let alone "inorganic" (lel) foods

[Anonymous No.5268053]

>>5268014
you wise donkey... we need clarity and transparency in our food products, its a bad thing when you want to buy something but don't know what countless things could fall into the category of "natural flavor/color" it could be so many nasty things, it should be on the label.

>>5268027
what do you mean?

[Anonymous No.5268059]

>>5268053
why would you want to buy something you don't know what's in it?

>what do you mean?
if people started getting afraid of the term 'sodium chloride' then the marketing divisions are going to come up with nice sounding words. and this could translate easily to more dangerous shit. calling for explicitness and punishing otherwise is a way to breed dangerous euphemisms

[Anonymous No.5268145]

>>5268059
I understand what you are saying, my point was never about the whole "people being afraid of chemicals thing" its about the ingredients being honest and clear so that people know what they are eating and can make better decisions.

I see sodium chloride in my pickles normally, and I did research to find out if it was safe and determined that for ME it was kind of ok.

I was only able to do that research because I was given the freedom to know what the real name of that ingredient was.

[Anonymous No.5268157]

>>5268145
the problem with your reasoning is that it assumes that your average liberal iphone user has the intellect and the desire to look up what sodium chloride is. we both know he's just going to go to mother jones, find it in a list of things that can cause health problems when you beat a lab rat to death with a sack of it, and reject it outright.

I don't want salt-free food. the body needs salt to live. consumers don't know what's best for them, that's why euphemisms are better for everyone.

[Anonymous No.5268304]

>>5268157
I disagree. while there are many silly people out there who have no clue what they are doing, the majority of people do know what they want and don't want in their food. I don't really agree with your assumption that everyone is some poor fool with an Iphone.

I know what is best for me and I believe in what I said in this post
>>5268145

its important that food be labeled clearly and honestly so that anyone has the freedom to do their research and learn about what they are eating, not the terrible alternative "label everything that sounds scary with some smiley face sticker that makes it seem ok"

ignorance and dishonesty is very destructive to society.

instead of lowering the standards of food labels and negatively effecting everyone by withholding information, people should always be given the opportunity to educate themselves and come to their own conclusions.

my body needs vitamins and minerals, not "natural secret additive"

the labels should be made more honest, not more dishonest in fear of someone thinking it sounds scary and continuing to be ignorant.

there will always be someone out there that is afraid of some chemical because it sounds weird, without doing any research or knowing what it actually is.

I remember when I used to not understand what hydrogenated vegetable oil was, it sounded very freaky and without too much of a good basis I could have said "I will avoid this" but instead I did research and learned more about it until I came to the conclusion that I didn't like it anyway because I believe it is unhealthy. that's my choice, and I believe everyone should have the right to information so that they can too be free to make their own choice.

>"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" -Benjamin Franklin

[Anonymous No.5268493]

>>5268157
>>5268304
>>5268145

It seems like a key issue here is a lack of consumer knowledge/education regarding the topic. I'm inclined to believe that most companies (Monsanto being a probable exception) aren't actually evil and want their customers to have a good experience with their product. Their fear towards "open" labeling is understandable when framed within the average person's reaction to seeing something on a label that looks "bad" even if it's perfectly benign. This tendency toward overreaction coupled with an apparent unwillingness to do a bit of research on something if they're truly concerned means that companies rightfully fear consumer backlash if they were to be completely transparent. Labels should be more transparent, but there's also a need for some sort of public education regarding the subject.

[Anonymous No.5269777]

>>5268493
youre building your own issue to fight against

why should people care if other people want to eat mystery meat

[Anonymous No.5270836]

>>5268493
I agree with some of your points, but people need to stop being afraid of the truth. they do need education on the subject, (not school but other forms, the school system is awful) and shouldn't fear going on the internet for 2 minutes to better understand what turmeric is or something.


Companies, however... I believe should definitely feel at least a little afraid of what the customer knows, and they are. but instead of being more honest and using a healthier alternative to whatever mystery ingredient they are afraid of making transparent to the public, they try to remain secretive and let it remain a mystery to the customer. this is just plain dishonest and messed up since it gives the wrong impression. the mystery ingredient shouldn't be made more appealing with the name "natural ingredient/flavor/color" because it give the misleading impression that since its natural, then whatever that "natural ingredient" is, must automatically be safe/healthy/acceptable to the customer. instead this mystery ingredient should be made clear, open, transparent to the public instead of that umbrella cover name, or it should be renamed to "undisclosed ingredient" so that the customer can know that they are eating "something which they do not know". this is the honest way to go. tell the truth and say exactly what it is, or call it "not telling the customer" not "happy sunshine trick term"

>>5269777
you don't get it do you? I don't care what other people eat, I care what I AM eating.

[Anonymous No.5270865]

quit being such a whiny little cunt.
"natural flavorings" is a regulated term. specifically:

the essential oil, oleoresin, essence or extractive, protein hydrolysate, distillate, or any product of roasting, heating or enzymolysis, which contains the flavoring constituents derived from a spice, fruit or fruit juice, vegetable or vegetable juice, edible yeast, herb, bark, bud, root, leaf or any other edible portions of a plant, meat, seafood, poultry, eggs, dairy products, or fermentation products thereof, whose primary function in food is flavoring rather than nutritional.

In other words, it has to be from a thing you'd recognize as food, and processed in such a way that you'd still recognize it as food.

Here's the real question: why do you think you're entitled to know every ingredient in something you eat?

[Anonymous No.5271273]

>>5270836
>you don't get it do you? I don't care what other people eat, I care what I AM eating.
then just ignore products that have ambiguous ingredients? duh? that's a choice you kno

[Anonymous No.5271479]

>>5271273

[Anonymous No.5271480]

>>5270865
because FREEDOM

[Anonymous No.5271605]

>>5267452
>5267452
Has to be declared explicitly, could be "disguised" as HVP or hydrolyzed yeast extract as well

Honestly OP its probably just some spice extract concentrated in oleoresin
Could be anything really

[Anonymous No.5271616]

>>5267447
>purchases a product
>entitled

Eat a dick. If I'm paying for something I should have the right to know what's in it. You grow your own garbanzos and sesame seeds, by any chance?

[Anonymous No.5271642]

>>5270865
>entitled to know every ingredient in something you eat
LEK
So why even bother using a menu when you go to a restaurant? Why do you feel entitled to know what the chef will be spooning onto your plate? I bet you're the same kind of faggot that doesn't ask your doctor what he's prescribing you and what for. You seem quick to accuse others of being entitled. Perhaps because you're just jealous of how other people choose to live their lives compared to some of the life decisions you've made. When did wanting to educate yourself with information about something become entitlement?

[Anonymous No.5271651]

>>5267235

Leb here

Make your own hummus, seriously. Store shit is god awful.

http://www.the-lebanese-kitchen.com/recipes/mezze/hummus/

Try this. Honestly you should try and tweak the ingredients and make it your own. The best hummus is the kind you can't find anywhere else.

[Anonymous No.5271679]

>>5271651
because I'd rather pay $2 for decent stuff rather than spending

$1 canned chickpeas
$0.20 3 garlic cloves, peeled
$??? jar 4 tablespoons tahini
$0 grow on bush juice of 2 lemons
$0 negligble 2 teaspoons sea salt
$0 neg extra virgin olive oil, for drizzling

~$5-7 for not that much difference.

[Anonymous No.5271693]

>>5271679

Are you retarded? The recipe he posted would give you lots left over. If you're too much of a poorfag to spend money on making decent hummus but you'll take time to cry about not knowing factory processed hummus ingredients, you have a bigger issue than not knowing a chemical name.

[Anonymous No.5271697]

>>5271679

>skipping the salt and olive oil

both of those are crucial you retard

[Anonymous No.5271702]

>>5271679

>skipping half the ingredients

gr8 b8 m8

[Anonymous No.5271710]

>>5271697
>>5271702

This. Everything is required unless you want mushy chickpea paste

[Anonymous No.5271722]

>>5271702
>>5271710
>>5271697
are you all retarded?
he's implying that he either has it around already or the price of such a small amount is negligible

[windjammer !5P0GlMBv5Q No.5271723]

>>5271722
>Paying a little extra for a better quality product you can take pride in as your own.

Is buying from a store worth the extra pennies?

[Anonymous No.5271732]

>>5271723
I already make my own hummus. I'm not the guy who was a tool about it. I'm just pointing out people are stupid