/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.5246404]

California law forces chefs and bartenders to wear gloves.

[Anonymous No.5246408]

>>5246404
Chef's should.

[Anonymous No.5246419]

>>5246404
Good

But wouldn't it be super uncomfortable and hhave gloves dripping w/ sweat

[/ck/ No.5246422]

>>5246404
it's ok California has proven it's full of nothing but health conscious weirdos in the past, this just backs it up

[Anonymous No.5246436]

>>5246422
>being health conscious is bad
Let me guess, you think reading and exercise is for elitists?

[Anonymous No.5246449]

horrible. and people won't do it anyway.

[Anonymous No.5246450]

it's beyond retarded. it makes absolutely no sense.

[Anonymous No.5246451]

>>5246436
Yes

[Anonymous No.5246453]

gloves don't magically prevent you from touching things you shouldn't and contaminating the outside of the glove.

all this does is add more cost and regulation to a state that already has too much of both for small business.

[Anonymous No.5246457]

>>5246404
>Mexicans.
Yeah, ask yourself why gloves again?

[Anonymous No.5246458]

>>5246436
its for tryhards, yes

[Anonymous No.5246460]

Once again, everyone has to follow a law created to account for Mexican/negro savagery and stupidity. If not for them, you would be able to buy an AR-15 on Wall Street, have raw milk delivered to your door in wire baskets, and do a line of cocaine every Saturday night.

Instead we have security cameras so they don't steal, gun laws so they don't kill, sanitary laws so they can't touch food, and a whole deluge of fees fines and tickets to pay for every little Juanita and Tray'qwan they pop out on the tax payers dime.

[/ck/ No.5246462]

>>5246436
It's excessive and if you have ever worked in a kitchen you know someone who is constantly in gloves washes their hands less. So when they slap on a new pair enjoy that nice layer of hand sweat that's been growing in bacteria for the entire shift.

[Anonymous No.5246465]

>>5246419
these are thin plastic gloves, so no.

[Anonymous No.5246470]

>>5246457
Fuck off back to /pol/

[Anonymous No.5246472]

>>5246460
>we have gun laws so mexicans and black people cant kill
My sides, are all Americans like this. Feels good to live in a cultured nation like Europe.

[Anonymous No.5246488]

>>5246472
>Feels good to live in a cultured nation like Europe.

>nation
>Europe

Might wanna fact check before you bait friend.

[Anonymous No.5246511]

[Anonymous No.5246519]

>>5246465
confirmed for never working a line in the middle of summer
unless moisture can wick out and fresh air can get in, California food is gonna be seasoned a little extra with salty sweat

[Anonymous No.5246520]

looks like I wont be opening a restaurant in california after all

not like it matters, they were just going to get donatello

[Anonymous No.5246532]

>>5246470

[Anonymous No.5246537]

Do American chefs not wash their hands enough?

[Anonymous No.5246545]

[Anonymous No.5246546]

>>5246537
its the mexican and korean ones you need to worry about

[Anonymous No.5246550]

>latex is a common allergy
sorry bro, time to move or find a new profession

[Anonymous No.5246553]

>>5246537
The general public are real fucking paranoid faggots about every goddamned thing and want boneless, colorless, flavorless cuts of meat prepared in a static-free cleanroom by machinery and chemicals.

It is really beginning to piss me off.

[Anonymous No.5246558]

>>5246550
There are many alternatives. In fact, I would say latex gloves are the minority these days.

[Anonymous No.5246559]

>>5246537
Fucking paranoid uneducated people don't realize washing your hands is all you need to do, they think hands are inherently dirty and gloves are inherently clean even when they handle money with their gloved hands and then touch food like assholes.

[Anonymous No.5246562]

>>5246453
>gloves don't magically prevent you from touching things you shouldn't and contaminating the outside of the glove.

This is the only sane person in this thread. Fuck all of you.

[Anonymous No.5246565]

>>5246562
Yeah, must be why people who work in labs or in healthcare never wear gloves.

[Anonymous No.5246566]

>>5246550
Latex is an allergy for guests too. Cooks usually have to use powdered vinyl which causes our hands to sweat and break out, and new gloves cannot be applied after old ones are discarded and hands are washed and well dried, so most cooks break the rules and leave them on if required to wear.

The general public really needs to fuck itself at this point. Gloves are not professional. Gloves are the sign of incompetence.

[Anonymous No.5246569]

restaurants can get exemptions from having to follow this if they follow certain guidelines

[Anonymous No.5246573]

>>5246565
They do, man. Don't act like a 6 year old.

[Anonymous No.5246574]

>>5246565
>labs and healthcare
>working on one patient at a time
>food industry
>doing up to 200 fucking covers while touching food items like produce and meat that unlike sterilized utensils, are already contaminated
Shut the fuck up you simple minded twat.

[Anonymous No.5246575]

>>5246565
they wear gloves when they're working with bodily fluids, not for every little thing they have to do.

[Anonymous No.5246577]

>>5246537

We don't wash our hands at all. We maintain a nonstick seasoning of oils on our hands that makes food prep very simple and clean. Food/dirt/whatever slides right off.

Soap would ruin it.

[Anonymous No.5246579]

>>5246565
the gloves are so they don't contaminate themselves. the patient is already contaminated

[Anonymous No.5246581]

So is there an actual issue with cooks sickening customers with unwashed hands or did California pass a law over imaginary issues YET AGAIN?

[Anonymous No.5246584]

>>5246574
>>5246575
I work in a lab and went through about 10 pairs of nitrile gloves today. It really isn't a big deal to wear gloves and change them when appropriate.

[Anonymous No.5246586]

>>5246565
You're not very bright are you? They wear gloves to protect themselves from getting sick. Idiot.

[Anonymous No.5246587]

>>5246579
>being this retarded

[Anonymous No.5246589]

Rubber gloves are a pain to put on and remove especially if your hands are sweaty.

Expect even more cases of food poisoning thanks to cross contamination.

[Anonymous No.5246594]

>>5246586
>You're not very bright are you? They wear gloves to protect themselves from getting sick. Idiot.
And to protect the patient.

[Anonymous No.5246595]

>>5246584
Nitrile gloves aren't available here for some reason. I don't know if it's another allergen or what.

Another thing is the heat. These fucking gloves will melt to your skin when your callouses can normally take the heat without a blister. I actually had one catch fire once. The vinyl ones cook and harden anywhere near the grill, griddle, or range. Fuck gloves.

Oh and regardless of the gloves, you will cut the gloves when using a knife. You know where your fingers are the the blade runs parallel to them. They fill find a wrinkle and the point of the gloves will be gone.

[Anonymous No.5246600]

>>5246587
when someone is performing surgery on an HIV patient, assuming they properly washed their hands before doing it.
who is the one at risk?
the person on the table being operated on by someone with sterile hands or the person handling aids blood?

[Anonymous No.5246602]

>>5246404
the worst place I ever worked had us wear fucking gloves when cooking. Some little SJW with a health conscience mind and zero restaurant experience made us do it.

They always bought the gloves with powder on the inside.

>chef complains about the gloves every ten minutes
>hands sweat and the powder sticks to your skin and dries it out
>hands crack from drying out
>gloves have low heat tolerance so they're always fucking half melting
>washing hands is a painful experience when you're trying to work around cracks in your skin
>eventually stop wearing gloves when the bitch is around, food isn't seasoned with hand powder sweat

Man, fuck gloves and fuck stupid regulations. I'm glad her restaurant shut down.

[Anonymous No.5246603]

>>5246586
You sound upset and retarded.

Do you actually think a surgeon wears a gown, gloves, and mask simply to protect him/herself?

Do you actually not understand the concept of nosocomial infections, especially in relation to immunocompromised patients?

[Anonymous No.5246605]

>>5246603
Are you saying that a surgeon is like a chef?

[Anonymous No.5246606]

>>5246600
That is one scenario. Also, the HIV patient may have a compromised immune system and the introduction of normal skin flora (such as C. albicans) into a wound or incision could cause a devastating opportunistic infection.

[Anonymous No.5246608]

Rubber or plastic gloves are always a pain in the ass.
>Wash hands for a good 30 seconds
>Dry Hands
>Turn off sink with towel
>Put on gloves
>Make food
>Run register
>Handle money
>Have to repeat steps again
Yeah that happens a good 50 times per shift for me

[Anonymous No.5246611]

[Anonymous No.5246612]

>>5246605
Stick to the context and stop moving the goalpost. You apparently think gloves are only to protect a healthcare professional and not the patient.

[Anonymous No.5246613]

>>5246584
you don't work in a kitchen
it's much harder on gloves
I've actually cooked gloves, while wearing them, to the point of them being brittle and frail, just getting food in and out of an oven/salamander a few times
working a grill station would be even worse
there's absolutely no good reason to create such a wasteful, disruptive policy when better policies exist, and simply need to be exercised
I can see an argument to be made for ready-to-eat foods, and that's the law here, but, even then, there are better practices

[Anonymous No.5246614]

>>5246603
I work in a building with assembly lines and the assembly workers have to wear gloves. The trick is wearing thin disposable cotton gloves under the disposable plastic ones. It feels hotter but you get less moisture.

[Anonymous No.5246617]

>>5246612
Protip: Rubber gloves themselves protect.

[Anonymous No.5246620]

>>5246404
Okay.

[Anonymous No.5246622]

>>5246584
working in a lab =/= working in a kitchen

[Anonymous No.5246624]

>>5246614
Not every kitchen can do that shit though. Try keeping gloves on with two cooks doing 300+ covers on a line that's average ambient temperate is around 110F. It is not possible. You can claim you need extra labor or a different setup, but then you come into conflict with city rules, union, corporate mandated standards, and severe pricing issues.

Gloves should not be worn by most food workers.

[Anonymous No.5246635]

>>5246624
I agree they don't need that shit. I can't stand when I have to put those things on for more than 10 minutes and the assemblers do it for 5+ hours.

It really does help with the gloves feeling sticky on the inside and it helps fill out the plastic glove so it feels less baggy

[Anonymous No.5246637]

>>5246404
I work at a fast food shithole and I'm required to wear gloves...
I don't, but I'm supposed to.

[Anonymous No.5246642]

>>5246622
You are right, I have to be far more careful and precise while ensuring I follow ISO 9001 standards.

[Anonymous No.5246645]

>>5246404
because you faggots dont know shit ill let you know

you put on cotton gloves on your hands and then cover them with you food prep gloves ezpz ... i did it in a bacon and meatpacking plant and the gloves are not a issue aside from when they tear and you need a new pair

stupid whiny fucks dont know shit

[Anonymous No.5246648]

>>5246642
Hence the reason I said

>>5246622

Also, preparing food is more difficult with gloves on.

>>5246645
>working in a meat plant is now the same as working in a kitchen where precision is required

[Anonymous No.5246653]

>>5246648
>you don't need precision in a meat plant
Hilarious.

[Anonymous No.5246658]

>>5246653
I worked in a meat plant.

You have to cut the fucking meat as fast as possible and throw it down the assembly. Poor stupid white trash were able to do it, it's not rocket science.

[Anonymous No.5246665]

>>5246645
>>5246648
>>5246653
Meatpacking is not being a chef, or a cook, or even a lowly housewife. That is not to say it requires skill, but it is a monotonous job.

I'd like to see this asshole attempt his glove nonsense in a busy kitchen that actually cooks the goddamned food as it is ordered, and not just processes shit in batches.

[Anonymous No.5246669]

>>5246453
>>5246562
Not to appear a glovefag, cause I ain't, but there's a considerable difference between the oil-rich petri dish one calls the human skin and a fresh pair of gloves.

Personally I only ever wear them to handle raw meat, then throw them away immediately.

Veggies are on a per case basis, taking into consideration species, storage conditions, and age, but I rarely use gloves for those.

[Anonymous No.5246686]

>>5246669
>Personally I only ever wear them to handle raw meat, then throw them away immediately

I can understand that, even though I only wear them to handle old meat. Fresh meat gets prepared away from veggies and cooked food in it's own separate area.

[Anonymous No.5246691]

>ban plastic bags
>pass glove law

[Anonymous No.5246692]

>>5246594
from what?

[Anonymous No.5246720]

>>5246691
how are these related at all?

[Phil Ossiferz Stone !!esSirF6LRYN No.5246723]

They didn't actually PASS this fuckass law, did they?

[Anonymous No.5246725]

>>5246665
still whining

top kek

[Anonymous No.5246727]

Sushi chefs were all pissed about it.

[Anonymous No.5246728]

>>5246723
no everyone is following it just for fun

[Anonymous No.5246731]

Why are gloves considered to be cleaner than washed hands?

[Anonymous No.5246732]

>>5246731
because gloves dont excrete bodily fluids or flake off

[Anonymous No.5246738]

>>5246732
Funny thing is, yes they do.

[Anonymous No.5246740]

>>5246738
how could they? gloves arent alive, or even have a body...

[Anonymous No.5246741]

>>5246738
are you going to post proof or are you just making a joke?

[Anonymous No.5246743]

>>5246740
They can excrete just fine once the inevitable holes appear. And they flake off more than people do because they are more temperate sensitive than a well-worked pair of cook hands.

Glove laws were pushed by fucking manchildren that couldn't stand the vegetables being near the meat or potatoes, because they wouldn't even eat the vegetables.

Sorry for any grammar errors, I'm about ready to tucker-in. It's late and fuck this earth.

[Anonymous No.5246748]

>>5246732
>gloves don't excrete bodily fluids or flake off
my hands always sweat when I get hot enough
more so when heat is trapped in by plastic
that plastic keeps sweat from evaporating, not letting it cool me down and making it pool up in the gloves
the gloves now begin to leak out sweat

all prep must now be done with gloves on
rubber sticks to knife blade
gloves and hands are cut more often since can not use fingers as a guide anymore
more blood, more sweat, more rubber/plastic contamination
awesome solution

[Phil Ossiferz Stone !!esSirF6LRYN No.5246749]

Holy mother of fuck. They actually did it.

http://www.latimes.com/food/dailydish/la-dd-chefs-gloves-law-20140111,0,6631800.story#axzz2uydmysZz

The nanny state bastards ruining the land of my birth know no decent limits. I'm leaving just in time.

[Anonymous No.5246764]

[Anonymous No.5246780]

this is some really fucking retarded shit

a few chefs dont wash properly so the majority has to wear something that directly inhibits their profession for no reason?

[Anonymous No.5246787]

>>5246780
california bro get used to it "the land of the free"

reminder the smoking law was tougher than this and now the nation follows these laws so expect the trend to continue ... get used to it

[Anonymous No.5246826]

I think the main reason people get ill from restaurants is no concept of food storage and safety. Things are just left in the walk-in forever and reheated and frozen umpteen times and end up absolutely riddled with bacteria everywhere. It doesn't matter how many pairs of gloves you wear if it's Saturday and you're serving the refried beans made last Monday. And imagine for shrimp and chicken !?!

[Anonymous No.5246834]

>>5246565
>people who work in labs

Let me guess, you don't?

Most people in labs only wear gloves when absolutely necessary, and even then the typical vinyl glove won't do much but keep out the scary chemicals for a few seconds.
Gloves are just like a safety blanket, feels like it helps but really it does nothing, you're better off learning to safely work with your materials without wearing gloves.

[Anonymous No.5246844]

>>5246834
This nigga knows what's up.
Methylene chloride will eat through surgical gloves almost INSTANTLY. Horrible shit. I used shoulder-length "dish" gloves when working with that shit.

But then again you're probably not cooking with a petroleum solvent that will literally dissolve the fat from under your skin.

[Anonymous No.5246930]

>>5246826
white people get travel sickness from even crossing the street because they are weak as fuck while not understanding that getting a flu is nothing special in fact its a healthy thing the strengthens the immune system

but try to make these sissys understand

I know I've gotten sick from fish in the northwest , menudo in south Texas, chicken in Sinaloa, soup in Guatemala, breakfast in Seattle

[Anonymous No.5246942]

>>5246472
How about those muslims

[Anonymous No.5246945]

Dunno if anyone has posted this yet or not, or if anyone cares in their rage, but this is for 'ready to eat' foods only. That is, if you make a burger, you don't have to put on gloves till you top it, pretty much. So you just have one jackass, probably the line-side Expo/Window put on a pair and toast and top. Boom. No one else needs to wear gloves. Just be sure to have raw tongs/spatulas and cooked tongs/spatulas and you're gold.

Still a stupid law. Gloves solve nothing. I work on a multi-station line and I am the only one that never wears glove, and I am the only one to never get a food borne illness complaint. Wrap your head around that shit, glovefags.

[Anonymous No.5246960]

>>5246945
This fucks over anyone that has to arrange food. Burger joints and sandwich shops are the only foodservice things in existence, you know.
>>5246669
>fresh
that's the key. Do you really expect a frantic kitchen that runs like clockwork on speed to be daintily changing out gloves every fucking dish/ingredient?

[Anonymous No.5246986]

>TFW most restaurant illnesses come from dirty servers who handle food, plates, cutlery, money and don't wash their hands between extorting 25% tips out of unsuspecting punters.

[Anonymous No.5247631]

>>5246960
I work for a poor navy that's barely scraping by, yet my team is given gloves aplenty. And as I said, we mainly use it for raw meat, and rarely veggies. So really, we're looking at about a pair per day per 25 sailors.

Of course, we have the added benefit of cooking in two big batches, instead of preparing every single course on a per request basis.

[Anonymous No.5247639]

>>5246453

this, at a certain point if you aren't changing them constantly it's no different than just using bare hands

[Anonymous No.5247644]

>>5247631
>So really, we're looking at about a pair per day per 25 sailors.
You aren't supposed to wash gloves. You should be going through dozens of gloves per sailor per day.

[Anonymous No.5247646]

>>5246960
>that's the key. Do you really expect a frantic kitchen that runs like clockwork on speed to be daintily changing out gloves every fucking dish/ingredient?
Properly washing your hands takes 10 seconds. Putting on gloves takes far less.

[Anonymous No.5247647]

>>5246537
california is just a shithole

[Anonymous No.5247650]

>>5247644
Where in my whole post do you get that I wash gloves? For every 25 people I feed, I use a pair per day. I know that because I use 4 pairs/day, for about 10 minutes each (then I chuck them as mentioned above), and I feed about 100 people.

...is this bait?

[Anonymous No.5247651]

> there's a considerable difference between the oil-rich petri dish one calls the human skin and a fresh pair of gloves.

Except the gloves won't be fresh. And the inside of a commercial kitchen is a pretty oil rich petri dish in and of itself.

Unless the restaurant is brand spanking new, you don't want to know what the kitchen looks like.

[Anonymous No.5247652]

>>5247651
>Except the gloves won't be fresh.
They will be cleaner than hands that have been haphazardly washed once an hour.

[Anonymous No.5247678]

>>5247646
>Properly washing your hands takes 10 seconds.
Properly rinsing your hands after lathering takes like a full minute according to regulations. You're making shit up.

>Putting on gloves takes far less.
You're supposed to wash before putting on gloves anyways, and inbetween changing gloves.

Point is, gloves are an uncessary and unsanitary step. You folks arguing for them do realize that most restaurants in the US have auto-dispensing anti-bacterial soap that kills the fuck out of micro-organisms (and our skin) right?

[Anonymous No.5247680]

>>5247678
>US have auto-dispensing anti-bacterial soap that kills the fuck out of micro-organisms (and our skin) right?
lol no

[Anonymous No.5247683]

>>5247678
The people who argue for them have no idea how real kitchens work.

[Anonymous No.5247687]

>>5247646
properly washing your hands takes 20 seconds.

[Anonymous No.5247691]

>>5247678
Anti-bacterial soap is not a panacea for improper hygiene and hand-washing.

Hands provide more surface area and adherence of microbes than nitrile gloves.

[Anonymous No.5247695]

ITT butthurt line cooks hate wearing gloves

[Anonymous No.5247697]

>>5247687
Okay, still longer than putting on gloves.

>>5247683
We get it, you have all of Bourdain's books lol

[Anonymous No.5247699]

>>5247680
Lol yes. All the places I have been in us electronic Ecolab soap foam dispensers. Ecolab also handles surfactants, surface sanitizers, and even our pest control.

>>5247683
Clearly. I simply break the gloves (regardless of type) during knife work. No glove can hold up to the friction where the spine of the blade touches just in front of my first joint on the index finger.

[Anonymous No.5247709]

>>5247691
>Hands provide more surface area and adherence of microbes than nitrile gloves.
Oh I see Sheldon, so you're a germaphobe and reality really holds no grounds in this discussion.

If you want a perfectly sterile dish go home and microwave a lean cuisine and enjoy your lack of bacteria and clean smooth plastic servicing tray. The kitchen is not a laboratory; the foods we serve come with bacteria. You want us to soap and boil your salad?

[Anonymous No.5247719]

>>5247651
>Unless the restaurant is brand spanking new, you don't want to know what the kitchen looks like.
Sorry mate, I've had Doctors (that's the Captain-equivalent rank of the Health Corps) come swab my kitchen at random points monthly for two years now, and I never once have been reprimanded. Oh and my kitchen is pushing 50.

If the head cook knows what xe's doing, the kitchen is clean. Is your experience from McDonald's or something?

[Anonymous No.5247726]

>>5247652
what about when the gloves are only haphazardly washed once an hour?

[Anonymous No.5247727]

>>5247709
We are not talking about aseptic technique and sterile food we are talking about reducing the transmission of pathogens. Obviously proper use of gloves trumps proper hand washing, there is no question here.

[Anonymous No.5247731]

>>5247699
>he thinks tricoslan is great
lol

[Anonymous No.5247744]

>>5247697

I used to work for a security company, setting up door contacts, motion sensors and cameras into restaurants, usually as a knee-jerk reaction to the restaurant having recently been robbed.

Restaurants are dirty, messy, filthy places. If you touch anything with your gloves that's not the contents of the fridge or the pre-rush countertop, you're basically back to square one.

[Anonymous No.5247753]

>>5247727
Proper use of gloves is no where near the fucking hot line. That shit should be kept in garde manger and pantry.

Listen closely you irritating little freak; THEY TEAR ON EQUIPMENT, KNIVES, TOOLS, DRY AND CRACK IN THE OPEN AIR- AND MELT AROUND THE BURNERS, FRYER, SALAMANDER, CHAR-BROILER, FLATTOP, OVENS, AND EVEN THE HOT LAMP. This spills wonderful sweat-soaked liquid from inside the glove into your food. They are a fucking health hazard for both the kitchen and the guest. You do not want us wearing gloves you regulation-obsesses wet-blanket.

[Anonymous No.5247759]

>>5247731
>he thinks Digiclean is the only hand-soap they carry
lol

[Anonymous No.5247760]

So does the waitstaff have to wear gloves when they grab onto my plate and carry it out to me?

[Anonymous No.5247764]

>>5247719

McDonalds is probably cleaner than a lot of the restaurants I've set up security in.

I suppose it has to be, as you can see right into the kitchen from the order counter.

[Anonymous No.5247767]

>>5247753
You should know when to remove them, retard. And your superior should know who is supposed to wear them and who isn't.

[Anonymous No.5247768]

>>5247753
>regulation-obsesses wet-blanket.
The guy is an obvious britbong or other such eurotrash.
Regulation obsession is built in his dna.

[Anonymous No.5247771]

>>5247764
>I suppose it has to be, as you can see right into the kitchen from the order counter.
Oh, my apologies, I've never set foot in one, so I was just guessing.

[Anonymous No.5247777]

>>5247753
>you regulation-obsesses wet-blanket.
Oh, so we've got an immature and inexperience Libertarian in our midst.

Tell us how health regulations and surveillance are so bad now lol

[Anonymous No.5247780]

>>5247777
>Tell us how health regulations and surveillance are so bad now lol
See? Euroslave.

[Anonymous No.5247781]

>>5247767
Yeah, when they melt onto my skin and I howl I'll note to remove them, jackass.

And my superior, aka the executive chef, should be the one to decide, not the state.

[Anonymous No.5247794]

>>5247781
Fuck's sake, I've literally never had them melt onto my skin, is it that hard to keep in mind you have gloves one and remove them before picking up the skillet, god DAMN IT FUCK ASS TITS SHIT ON TOAST?

>And my superior, aka the executive chef, should be the one to decide, not the state.
Well, of course, but the state should be the one to decide whether your superior decided correctly.

[Anonymous No.5247795]

>>5247780
Yeah I see. I kind of wish we had sided with Germany during WW2. Europe turned out all sorts of fucked up. Too many see no value in being able to make their own decisions or control their lives. They seek some sort of supreme authority to work out every detail of not only their, but everyone elses' lives. Fuck, they're a lot like our bible-thumping nutcases that want to outlaw blablabla.

[Anonymous No.5247801]

>>5247794
>but the state should be the one to decide whether your superior decided correctly.
lol
not sure if trolling or weapons grade retarded

[Anonymous No.5247803]

>>5247794
>Fuck's sake, I've literally never had them melt onto my skin, is it that hard to keep in mind you have gloves one and remove them before picking up the skillet, god DAMN IT FUCK ASS TITS SHIT ON TOAST?
I DON'T COOK ONE MEAL AT A TIME YOU INEFFECTUAL ASSHAT.

>Well, of course, but the state should be the one to decide whether your superior decided correctly.
No, no they shouldn't. The state does not cook. The state can't even handle taxes, road repair, snow removal, sewage, or other public works properly. What the flying fuck makes you think government regulation makes things better?

[Anonymous No.5247818]

>>5247803
>INEFFECTUAL
YOU'RE THE WILLIE COYOTE WHO CAN'T FUCKING HANDLE THE SIMPLE TASK OF REMOVING GLOVE, YOU FAT ANGRY FUCK.

>The state does not cook.
The state is not a person, and a cook is not an epidemiologist. The state can employ epidemiologists whose sole knowledge and duty is to come check up on you from time to time to ensure my trust in your establishment is well-founded. This is not a case of muh free market, because it's not about the quality of the product, but about the health of the populace, including people who will never even eat your food.

[Anonymous No.5247821]

>>5247780
>See? Euroslave.
Nope, just someone who has an intimate understanding with food safety and surveillance.

But enjoy being blissfully unaware of all these things as you eat our processed grains and drink your water. Just be happy there are people that are paid to keep an eye on these things on the behalf of the ignorant sheep.

>hurrrr aflatoxins? never hurd of them, but muh taxes

[Anonymous No.5247825]

>>5246453
Human hands flake with dead skin

[Anonymous No.5247827]

>>5247795
You do realize America is one of the largest and most bureaucratic governments in the world, right?

You guys just think having irresponsible firearm regulations equate to freedom and free-wheeling capitalism while ignoring the glaring evidence suggesting the contrary (massive subsidies, federal programs, corporate welfare, federal military budget, etc).

But as long as they keep you focused on poor people and guns you'll keep yourselves in line lol

[Anonymous No.5247828]

>>5246559
Reduces the chance of food poisoning in fast food environments

[Anonymous No.5247834]

>>5246453
THIS, anyone can wear gloves and scratch their butt and make your food with the dirty gloves, the people that made this law as psychopathic douche monglers.

if you wear even thin gloves for over an hour while doing some kind of work you can clearly see that its uncomfortable and can cause sweat to leak out, cause blisters etc.

enjoy all the chefs going "SCREW THIS" and getting jobs in oregon, nevada, and arizona.

politicians are horrible horrible evil nasty monsters.

[Anonymous No.5247838]

>>5247834
>enjoy all the chefs going "SCREW THIS" and getting jobs in oregon, nevada, and arizona.
lol sure bro

what's next, the Taco bell lackey's will decide to move too?

[Anonymous No.5247844]

>>5247827
But other countries they have higher taxes and higher living costs. (UK/Australia/Europe)

[Anonymous No.5247847]

>>5247803
>What the flying fuck makes you think government regulation makes things better?
Because crime is declining, leisure time is increasing, wealth is increasing, and people are healthier. At least, they were healthier until they displayed their inability to feed themselves and exercise like a normal organism (muh freedom of choice).

[Anonymous No.5247853]

ITT: Actual food industry people trying to explain why this is idiotic, and people who have never stepped a foot inside a kitchen in their entire lives arguing because they are that ignorant.

[Anonymous No.5247854]

>>5247844
>But other countries they have higher taxes and higher living costs.
America simply offsets their high social costs by increasing the burden of debt for future generations.

Other countries have higher taxes and living costs because they pay closer to the actual value of services and goods.

Yeah, visiting America and buying shit I don't need for a lot less money is nice, but that isn't how I gauge quality of living.

I'd rather pay more taxes instead of screwing over the next 10 generations with more debt.

[Anonymous No.5248066]

>>5247834
>jobs in oregon
Hah, good luck to 'em

[Anonymous No.5248087]

>>5247854
>burden of debt


You mean the debt that is non exitent and how it's more internal ?


>actual value of services and goods.

No, it's because the government imposes higher taxes for no good reason for everything


> I gauge quality of living.


You mean living in some apartment is fun?

[Anonymous No.5248103]

>>5248087
>You mean the debt that is non exitent and how it's more internal ?
Do you understand the relationship between Americans' high quality of life, low costs, and incredible national debt?

>No, it's because the government imposes higher taxes for no good reason for everything
This is an oversimplification that is a result of fear of government and anything "socialist" stemming from the selfish baby boomer generation and the cold war.

>You mean living in some apartment is fun?
I am a graduate student living on 16 acres of land. I don't know why you think everyone else lives in abject squalor or living in a mortgaged home is a hallmark of success.

[Anonymous No.5248106]

>>5246720
If you've ever needed to keep strict glove standards, you'd know it's common to go through 4-8 pairs in a day.

[Anonymous No.5248109]

>>5246731
They aren't. Skin is covered with a layer of antibiotic oils, gloves literally just pick up and breed anything they touch.

[Anonymous No.5248119]

>>5247834
>politicians are horrible horrible evil nasty monsters.
No they're just retarded and further swayed by an even more retarded public.

[Anonymous No.5248126]

>>5248109
I hope you know that your skin is absolutely covered in bacteria, fungi, and mites.

[Anonymous No.5248130]

>>5248126
So is the air. The very air you breathe, at this moment.

[Anonymous No.5248150]

>>5248130
Of course I know that, I am talking about >>5248109

[Anonymous No.5248225]

>>5248103
>Americans' high quality of life, low costs, and incredible national deb


The debt is not even incredible even then it's own by Americans


> fear of government

We are not stupid enough to impose high taxes stunting growth and development

Look how Germany lost jobs to Poland

>I am a graduate student

Really now

[Anonymous No.5248262]

>>5248119
*tips fedora*

[Anonymous No.5248298]

>>5246624
I work on a line and wear gloves... no big deal. just put on 5+layers at a time and peel them off as I need changing. simple, easy and people need to stop bitching.

btw we do 300+ covers on the reg and never have more than 3 cooks on the line.

[Anonymous No.5248302]

>>5248225
>The debt is not even incredible even then it's own by Americans
Are you serious?

[Anonymous No.5248312]

>>5246930
>white people

shitskin beaner detected ahahaha you mad

[Anonymous No.5248315]

>claim to be the land of the free
>manage to have the most ridiculous and unnecessary regulations worldwide because the government doesnt trust its citizens to be reasonable

Something is VERY wrong here.

[Anonymous No.5248327]

If you can't keep your hands clean, you're not going to keep the gloves clean either.

This is just an initiative to make hypochondriacs feel safer when they eat out.

[Anonymous No.5248329]

>>5248315
>california
>American
Pick one.

[Anonymous No.5248364]

>>5248327
this. if Jose is to lazy to wash his hands btw handling raw meat and veg, what makes you think he will change his gloves?

Also, I'll abide by this law if and only if all customers agree not to bitch when every food item takes AT LEAST one minute longer, probably more depending on how many times I have to change gloves to abide to regulations

[Anonymous No.5248397]

>>5248315

[Anonymous No.5248399]

>>5248397
Joke's on you, Tyrone, I'm not from the UK.

[Anonymous No.5248400]

>>5248397
>inb4 Russian-Chinese-Middle Eastern alliance topples 'murkkkka

[Anonymous No.5248409]

>>5248400
>Russian-Chinese-Middle Eastern alliance

what exactly, do you think a bunch of third world countries with inferior cuisine are going to do to merica?

[Anonymous No.5248419]

How common is it for Americans to use the setup in pic related for their bathrooms?

I went to visit some relatives in Iowa, and got to stay in their house. They lived in a pretty small city, and had to do this because of something that had to do with their city sewage treatment.

Essentially, you had to throw the used TP in a separate bin, and then also scoop the turds back up and put them in yet another separate bin.

I've experienced the TP thing in hotels in Cyprus, Spain and Greece, but the scoop thing came as a complete shock and I thought they were joking.

Could some American shed some light on this? How prevalent is it?

[Anonymous No.5248424]

>>5248399
I have more, don't worry

[Anonymous No.5248426]

>>5248409
Curry missiles

[Anonymous No.5248432]

>>5248419
>Could some American shed some light on this? How prevalent is it?

Not prevalent at all.

[Anonymous No.5248436]

>>5248419
100%

[Anonymous No.5248438]

[Anonymous No.5248442]

>>5248419
copypasta/10

[Anonymous No.5248447]

>>5248438

[Anonymous No.5248450]

[Anonymous No.5248451]

>>5246658
So it's dumb fucks like you that can't use a knife proper and gets bone fragments in my mince patties.

[Anonymous No.5248576]

It's harder to do knifework with gloves. It's also more dangerous. It's easier to slip; it's more difficult to grip.

[Anonymous No.5248603]

after living in asia for a year, and not once getting food poisoning, I was convinced we have absurdly unnecessary conditions for cleanliness

[Anonymous No.5248879]

>>5246834
I work in a lab. We use gloves to avoid contaminating our samples. Not all gloves are used solely to protect one's hands.

[Anonymous No.5248933]

>>5248447

[Anonymous No.5248982]

>>5246834
>Let me guess, you don't?
I do, and I wear gloves to prevent cross-contamination and when I am working with potentially hazardous microorganisms.

You seem to think all labs are chemistry labs.

[Anonymous No.5248989]

>>5248933
>everything is covered in snow, which they use to make coffee
>notice there are no birds, they've all been eaten.

[Anonymous No.5249036]

>>5248879
more like you use gloves so that the particles moving from the glove to the sample (ie the contaminants) are known (they're what the gloves are coated with) rather than unknown gunk from your hands

[Anonymous No.5249038]

>>5249036
Nope.

[Anonymous No.5249048]

>>5249038
>he thinks his gloves won't contaminate anything
>laughing_black_scientist.jpg

[Anonymous No.5249050]

>>5246764
yeah these co/ck/suckers sure can whine

[Anonymous No.5249055]

>>5249048
I'm not sure what you are going on about. I wear gloves when working in a biosafety cabinet or doing molecular work because I can change them to avoid cross-contamination and spray them regularly with ethanol or DNA-erase.

Are you saying wearing gloves when doing PCR isn't common practice or shouldn't be? What are you saying?

[Anonymous No.5249153]

>>5247828
>people wearing gloves are less likely to wash hands or re-glove to avoid cross contamination
>http://eatocracy.cnn.com/2012/07/12/oregon-dismisses-glove-requirement-for-restaurant-workers/
thank you based Oregon...now if only we could fix; everything else about you.

[Anonymous No.5249207]

>>5246577
toppest of keks

[Anonymous No.5249213]

>>5247818
Legistards aren't epidemiologists either.

[Anonymous No.5249217]

>>5249213
The state does not equal the legislative body of the state. Are you actually 12?

[Anonymous No.5249224]

>>5246404
I don't mind wearing gloves when I cook but they just can't stand up to the heat and it becomes a problem during rush hours.

[Anonymous No.5249325]

>>5249217
Yes, I am a 12 year old Libertarian who hates the government because of what my father and various partisan entertainment news outlets tell me.

[Anonymous No.5249342]

>>5249325
Well don't; a government is a useful set of mechanisms we use to effect our mega-societies.

[Anonymous No.5249349]

>>5249342

[Anonymous No.5249362]

>>5249349
Are you trying to say we can have a society like ours without a government?

[Anonymous No.5249392]

>>5249362
We can have a better society without it

[Anonymous No.5249395]

>>5246460
rip Tray'qwan

[Anonymous No.5249977]

>>5249392
Better for what purpose?

[Anonymous No.5249992]

>>5247825
You are breathing dead human skin every moment of your life.

[Anonymous No.5250002]

>>5249392
reality vs ideals

wake up

[Anonymous No.5250056]

>>5246404
BWAHAHAHA welcome to WA state!
Now prepare for a ridiculous minimum wage!

[Anonymous No.5250555]

>>5249036
I change my gloves when I finish handling one sample. Cross contamination is just not possible due to this as long as proper procedure is followed. There is no need to know the contaminants when there are none worth mentioning (eg atmospheric)

[Anonymous No.5251600]

I can't wait for the reality of restaurant life and a working life to kick in and no one changes their gloves throughout the day to the point where just hoping they washed their hands like before would have been a better guarantee to avoiding contamination.

[Anonymous No.5251681]

>>5250555
I'm not sure why he thought people wore gloves "so that the particles moving from the glove to the sample are known".

This makes no sense. The whole point is to minimize contamination, not tracing it to your gloves (?).

[Anonymous No.5252175]

>>5251681
Yeah I don't really get it either but I hope that my post will have helped him understand.