/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.5116513]

So I went to a hibachi place for the very first time. The table was me, my wife, and 8 other strangers. Drinks get ordered, everyone orders entrees etc. Guy makes the fried rice first, bowls it out everyone.

Then he starts doing the protein. Some have fish, some chicken, steak, shrimp scallops. Using the same knife and spatula. First he's flipping the raw fish, then touching the steak, back to raw shrimp, raw scallops, back to steak, etc. Every once in awhile he set his spatula and knife directly on the griddle for a few seconds i guess to "disinfect" it.

Is that the way it's supposed to be or did the guy almost kill us?

[Anonymous No.5116515]

How chapped are your hands right now?

[Anonymous No.5116517]

>entertainment cooking

It doesn't get any worse than that. It's shit, literally.

[Anonymous No.5116519]

>>5116517
>literally

oh boy here we go

[Anonymous No.5116524]

You were eating all the food at the same time, and it was all cooked, so there's no point in using separate utensils in that situation. What would you be worried about? That germs from the steak might have gotten onto the fish? Who cares since 1) you're eating both and 2) both are cooked anyway.

Cross-contamination is risky when you get raw food into a dish that will not be cooked any further. So, for example, if the cook had used the spatula to handle raw fish, and then used it to serve you something without cooking it first.

[Anonymous No.5116526]

>>5116517
I've had the crepe experience before; it was one ffrench waiter cooking sweet crepes, then finishing them in a cointreau syrup.
Really good and the flambe added excitement.

[Anonymous No.5116527]

>>5116517
I believe you mean, "figuratively".

[Anonymous No.5116529]

>>5116526
Flambeed crepes =! a guy slapping his knife on a griddle between every step

[Anonymous No.5116552]

>>5116517

Only if you hate fun and/or go to a shit hibachi place.

The chefs that work at my favorite one are always showing new tricks and joke around plenty. When I had moved away from there they gave me all the sake I could drink and didn't even charge me for it.

[Anonymous No.5116568]

>>5116513
Hibachi's are cool but I hate how you have to sit with strangers at your table. It's always so awkward.

[Anonymous No.5116576]

>>5116517
kill your self.

[Anonymous No.5116582]

>>5116517
Okay.
You weren't invited anyway

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMOzvxQHywM

[Anonymous No.5116608]

A grill that's well over 500 degrees will sterilize things in a matter of seconds.

It's like when people worry about cleanliness in Chinese take out joints. What does it matter if the food is being cooked in a 400 degree wok?

As another poster mentioned, the real issue with cross contamination is when raw and cooked dishes come out of the same kitchen. If you're just eating cooked food you're fine.

Also hibachi joints? Holy fuck, that's as kitsch as Tiki bars!

[Anonymous No.5116612]

Hygiene isn't as much of a problem as allergies are.

People allergic to fish, and shellfish are pretty screwed.

[Anonymous No.5116640]

>>5116568
But it's just like your Japanese animes!

[Anonymous No.5116641]

>>5116513
>>5116517
>>5116568

Aspergers.

Hibachi's are a fucking hilarious to go to. There are always different groups of people, yet the same types keep popping up again and again. The young family with annoying kids, the loud minorities that have problems with their food, the couple that is on their anniversary dinner but are clearly pissed at each other.

Part of the fun of going to one of these places is to socialize with people you otherwise wouldn't have. It's not for everyone (looking at you autists), but it's a fucking good time if you learn to relax, have some cocktails, and enjoy the show.

>2014
>not catching the rice in your mouth

I miss going to those places, the only one in town currently is shit (shitty ones ARE the worst). A new one is opening soon though so there's hope.


>>5116612
Most people with allergies are aware of their situation and make it known to the server beforehand. I've seen it multiple times. The person with allergies has their protein cooked first and plated, then the others go on

[Anonymous No.5116653]

>not being able to enjoy food for being food but instead nned to have a clown dance for you along it

Kinda reminds me of when people watch the Superbowl for advertisments and the halftime show instead of the actual game.

[Anonymous No.5116665]

>>5116653
>watch the superbowl for the ads and halftime
Theres nothing wrong with that at all.
Football is fucking gay and boring as hell. People need 'something' interesting to watch.

[Anonymous No.5116671]

>>5116653
>being a miserable cunt

Not everyone wants the same exact dining experience every single time they go out. It's a fun way to celebrate with a group of friends

[Anonymous No.5116674]

>>5116640
I don't watch anime.

[Anonymous No.5116678]

>>5116665

While your description of football is accurate enough, you seem to imply that the commercials and halftime show are worth watching. Please reassess.

[Anonymous No.5116683]

>>5116665
>>5116678
Just call him an " 'murikkkunt " and get it over with.

[Anonymous No.5116690]

>>5116674
Well you should, given the little bit of your personality you've shown, you'd probably like it.

[Anonymous No.5116691]

>>5116683
Yes, please turn this into a /int/ shitposting fest.

[Anonymous No.5116693]

>>5116690
I have to draw the line somewhere.

[Anonymous No.5116711]

>>5116513
>So I went to a hibachi place for the very first time.
Never been to one, OP. Doesn't seem like my kind of fun (loud, focus on performance instead of food), but I'm glad you had a good time.

These kind of places have been a thing on the American scene since the mid-60's. If they were making people sick they wouldn't have lasted.

[Anonymous No.5116716]

>>5116678
The halftime show is entertaining because of how exponentially worse it gets every year. I'm always morbidly curious what shitty mashup or elderly band who needs to retire they'll shove in there that year.

The commercials are over the top and as 'edgy' as they dare to get in the Upright Victorian Police State of America. I like seeing what they try to get away with, and how much the feminists and tumblr people can find to bitch about.

[Anonymous No.5116747]

>>5116513

That's a teppanyaki restaurant you retard. The food is cooked on a teppan, not a hibachi, as you can clearly see in the photo you posted.

They're not a bad place to bring a first date, since you can always talk about the food if you can't think of anything else.

[Anonymous No.5116754]

>>5116716

American police have jurisdiction in the state of Victoria?

[Anonymous No.5116772]

>>5116747

[Anonymous No.5116782]

>>5116747
>They're not a bad place to bring a first date, since you can always talk about the food if you can't think of anything else.

That's pathetic.

[Anonymous No.5116890]

>>5116782
>That's pathetic.

So it calling teppanyaki "hibachi."

[Anonymous No.5116896]

>>5116513
>The table was me, my wife, and 8 other strangers.

IMPLYING THAT WAS WIFE IS A STRANGER. WAY TO GO, OP.

[Anonymous No.5116900]

>>5116772
>danny devito
wat.

[Anonymous No.5116909]

I don't see the problem. Is OP using ironic stupidity or something?

[Anonymous No.5116913]

>>5116896

Must have been an arranged marriage.

[Anonymous No.5116914]

>>5116900

Oh shit, is that not him?

[Anonymous No.5116929]

>>5116890
Except that's what they're called in english. We call foreign stuff the wrong name all the time. Get used to it.

[Anonymous No.5116955]

>>5116929

I live in an English speaking country and I've never heard it called anything other than teppanyaki. If you want to say it in English, it should be called "iron plate grilled."

[Anonymous No.5116986]

>>5116929
In America we call them hiachis. Notice the "s," which also probably shouldn't be used to pluralize Japanese loan words.
Maybe if England had the same sense as every other country to make a body to regulate their language, we wouldn't be having this argument. As it is, American has the most native English speakers so we determine what is or isn't proper through cultural domination. Maybe your country should make more export friendly media; then you can make the rules.

[Anonymous No.5116991]

>>5116914
How can you possibly think it is?

[Anonymous No.5117000]

>>5116991

I'm really bad with names I guess.

[Anonymous No.5117006]

>>5116914

[Anonymous No.5117030]

I've been to a hibachi once. I can see how retards would enjoy it.

For me, I just want to have a nice peaceful meal that I can either have good conversation with the person I'm with or if I'm by myself just have it as a moment of solace from my busy life.

I can't tell you how many times I go to restaurants by myself just to get away from people and work. I like restaurants that the waiters are attentive but minimalist. Not trying to act like they are my best friend just trying to milk a big tip out of me.

Take my order, Bring me my food, Check to see if I'm enjoying my food after 3-5 minutes, and never let my drink run empty.

[Anonymous No.5117036]

>>5116986

In this case, the Japanese determine what is proper. It doesn't matter how many ignorant people use the wrong word, it's still incorrect.

[Anonymous No.5117045]

>>5117006
MODS MODS MODS

[Anonymous No.5117053]

>>5116986
>calling main meals "entrees" even though entree clearly means starter

Preposterous.

[Anonymous No.5117076]

>>5116513
I think I've said this a hundred times already. You Americans need to fucking relax with these subjects. It's cooked meat or fish, no bacteria can survive the scorching heat

[Anonymous No.5117086]

>>5116641
I hate sharing one with strangers because then the cook splits the portions between your party and the other group. I didn't pay to have part of my meal go to them.

Also I am mildly allergic to shrimp but if someone else at the hibachi orders it I have to deal with being itchy and bloated or pop a benadryl and be tired as fuck 30 minutes later.

But hibachis are pretty great when your group gets one all to themselves.

[Anonymous No.5117149]

>>5117086
A friend of mine was on a date at a local Grill & Sushi type place sitting alone at a hibachi when two people and two seriously retarded "adults" were parked at the same grill. They honked and whistled the whole time but they were fed from a baby bottle type contraption and would spit it up like an infant on their shirt. Even the cook was freaked out and just tried to hurry up and get the stuff made with as little interaction with the potato people as he could.

[Anonymous No.5117169]

>>5117030

*tips fedora with fingerless gloves*

I shall tip my fedora again when enjoying a moment of solace in your honor my good gentlemen

*flutters cape and walks off into the distance*

[Anonymous No.5117167]

>>5116914
...how the hell did you convince yourself that was Danny Devito. Fuck staying on topic, I really want to know.

[Anonymous No.5117180]

>>5117169
>not tapping your cane to the tune of Shave and a Haircut and finishing the last two notes with two tips of your fedora
You have very little sophistication.

[Anonymous No.5117182]

>>5117169
The fedora meme has been completely broken. No one has any fucking idea when to use it anymore.

[Anonymous No.5117196]

>>5117167
How in the hell are this many people not getting the joke?

[Anonymous No.5117206]

>>5117086
When you go into the restraunt tell your hostess about your sellfish allergy, they'll accomodate you or put you in with a table that has ordered no shrimp but not been served yet

[Anonymous No.5117216]

>>5117169
>Working 40 hours a week
>going to graduate school
>Dealing with wife and kids
>lunch break at work
>go to eat at a restaurant and just want some peace and quiet for 30 fucking minutes

Apparently I wear fedoras.

[Anonymous No.5117228]

>teppanyaki
>"I paid thirty dollars for fried rice cooked in front of me!"

[Anonymous No.5117232]

>>5117216

>wife and kids yet still edgy as fuck and almost indistinguishable from the euphoric fedora kids who shitpost in this board

I shall ponder this moment in my euphoric enlightenment

[Anonymous No.5117242]

>going to a knife slapper restaurant as an adult without kids

[Anonymous No.5117260]

Honestly I like fried rice and veggies.some people ordered chicken steak shrimp and I had scallops but so did many.I got sick. hurling sick which was unfortunate. I was driving. no alcohol and usually can eat or drink anything.and the cook made 40 bucks Moral of the story-don't grill raw chicken with any thing and personally?avoid.bay scallops. The"habatachi" type "Japanese steak"houses are mostly gone. A,good thing.It was a.disgrace to Japan and Japanese culture

[Anonymous No.5117269]

>>5117228
ikr

[Anonymous No.5117520]

>>5117167

Come on anon. I mean he kind of looks like him, right?

[Anonymous No.5117572]

>>5117086
>the cook splits the portions between your party and the other group. I didn't pay to have part of my meal go to them.

You realize they base the total portions on the amount of people that ordered the item, right? How fucking retarded can you be. If there was just you there, it doesn't mean hes going to make a mountain of rice just for you. It means hes going to make rice for one person. It scales.

[Anonymous No.5117581]

>>5117520
No, it looks like one of those idiots from that adult swim travesty.

[Anonymous No.5117596]

>>5117572
>I didn't pay for part of the labor used in making my meal to go to some random.... who I also have to share a table with

this is why communism failed btw

[Anonymous No.5117603]

>>5116513

People who work in pizza parlors don't even bother washing their hands inbetween touching meats, cheeses, and vegetables . They use the same hand to gather the toppings for pizza. They don't have to wash their hands because the oven will kill any bacteria.

[Anonymous No.5117651]

>>5117603
So no need to wash after taking a shit too right? Sweet

[Anonymous No.5117654]

>>5117581

Oh man, really? I've never watched any of their shows.

[Anonymous No.5117666]

>>5117581
>I'm going to pretend I don't know who it is or what the show is called
>hopefully /ck/ will think I'm cool

[Anonymous No.5117674]

It would only be a problem if he put the cooked meat or fish onto a plate that had raw fish on it previously. It's all being cooked at a high temperature, it doesn't matter. Do you get a clean spatula to remove cooked food from a pan?

There was a post really similar to this a while ago. Anon said the guy took chicken out of a container with tongs, then served him the chicken with the same tongs. It's being cooked at a high temperature where most bacteria is going to die in a second.

[Anonymous No.5117677]

>>5117674
> Do you get a clean spatula to remove cooked food from a pan?
Yes, actually. I'm not saying it to egg you on either. I cook with one utensil, then remove the cooked food from the pot/pan with another utensil.

[Anonymous No.5117699]

>>5117677
I didn't know people actually did that. No offense, but it's completely unnecessary. Unless, say, your first spatula is leaving globs of uncooked meat on the food.

[Anonymous No.5117727]

>>5117699
I'm probably in the minority, but that's what I do. I also notice people taste what they're cooking directly from the pot with the cooking utensil, like say, a soup, stew or sauce. I keep a spoon about and scoop some of what's cooking into a saucer and taste it from there.

[Anonymous No.5117732]

>>5117727
I do that, too. Unless the spoon is clean, I'll scoop some out with the cooking utensil. You'd just keep getting your saliva into whatever you're cooking, which is gross if you're serving other people.

[Anonymous No.5117741]

>>5117520
>>5117654
Am I the only person here who can read file names and has a sense of humor? Anon, whoever you are, you have made my night.

[Anonymous No.5117794]

>>5117741

I don't know what you're talking about friend, but I'm glad you're enjoying yourself.

[Anonymous No.5117796]

This is a troll right?

[Anonymous No.5118986]

>>5117216
>Implying you have no choice other than hibachi

[Phil Ossiferz Stone !!esSirF6LRYN No.5119023]

/looks confused

I thought a hibachi was a tiny little charcoal grill that you prepared delicious bits of chicken and beef over. But according to /ck/ it's actually a synonym for Benihana Of Tokyo.

I don't get it.

[Anonymous No.5119033]

I went to hibachi seminar drunk in the middle of the afternoon at a restaurant convention and that shit was entertaining. The food was free as part of a the demonstration. I don't even know what the fuck they were selling.

[Anonymous No.5119034]

>>5119023
You're thinking of teppenyaki, otherwise known as Mongolian barbeque.

[Anonymous No.5121093]

>>5119023

It is a charcoal grill. /ck/ doesn't know anything about cooking.

[Anonymous No.5121106]

>>5116513
It wont matter if he is touching raw fish/steak/shrimp. It's only being transferred on the outside on that is getting cooked. There is no risk.

[Anonymous No.5121109]

I fucking hate you all sometimes. You goddamn cunts.

[Anonymous No.5121114]

>>5119034

No, he's actually correct. A "hibachi" is a small charcoal burning heater. It often has a grate on top for cooking, but not always. Beyond that it's just a container to put charcoal in. That is the proper use of the term.

However, like many things, the term "hibachi" has grown beyond its original use and is commonly used to refer to that style of cooking. Incorrect use of terminology? Sure, but a common one.

Teppanyaki = "teppan" + "yaki" = plate + grilled. literally "cooked on a flat metal plate". This is the correct term for the style of cooking being discussed here.

[Anonymous No.5121131]

>this thread

[Anonymous No.5121169]

>>5121131
>not titled "30 Rock guy"

ya blew it

[Anonymous No.5121223]

>>5121114
I can back this up.

>tfw lived in japan and china for 8 years

[Anonymous No.5121285]

>>5121169

[Anonymous No.5121345]

>>5121285

[Anonymous No.5121350]

>>5121285
>>5121345

[Anonymous No.5122611]

>>5116640
There is absolutely nothing like Benihanas anywhere in Japan. The closest you'll get is a a small kaiten-zushi restaurant or an overly expensive normal sushi restaurant. All the teppanyaki restaurants expect you to cook the food yourself.

[Anonymous No.5122622]

>>5122611

Perhaps now (I wouldn't know, I haven't been to Japan in 10 years now). However, the teppanyaki style of restaurant was invented in Japan--by Misono if I recall correctly. That's where the idea came from before it was spread elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.5122631]

>>5122622
I live here now, and everyone I've ever told about a Benihana style place looks at me like Im retarded, although I haven't really looked into it outside of asking people about it casually.

[Anonymous No.5122639]

>>5122631
Yeah but in japan normal restaurants are like benihana. Not the same style or layout I mean but where you sit right in front of the chef at a counter style restaurant and he cooks right on the griddle. I think it's meant to be a loose translation of that

[Anonymous No.5122644]

>>5122631

Japan might not be familar with Benihana but any Japanese should know what "teppanyaki" is.

[Anonymous No.5122647]

>>5122644
But teppanyaki restaurants expect you to cook it yourself. The okonomiyaki and monjya places get upset if you start flipping shrimp around the place