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What are some cheap, easy to make Medieval styled dishes, /ck/?

>> No.5058072

I'd also like to know.

>> No.5058070

>>5058051
*Medieval Fantasy styled I meant

>> No.5058073

go make some mead you neckbeard hipster, while you gush on about the shit-tier trash known as game of thrones

>> No.5058076

Roast the flesh of a beast over an open flame.

>> No.5058089

>Please help me craft a menu for a medieval fantasy themed party, because I lack the imaginative intelligence to do so myself

>> No.5058105

This should give you an idea, even if it's largely free of offal.

http://tudorhistory.org/topics/food/menu.html

>> No.5058112
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>> No.5058122

Potatoes m8.

Boil 'em, mash 'em, put 'em in a stew.

>> No.5058139
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Recipe for a pie with live birds that fly out when cut open

"Make the coffin of a great pie or pastry, in the bottome thereof make a hole as big as your fist, or bigger if you will, let the sides of the coffin bee somewhat higher then ordinary pies, which done put it full of flower and bake it, and being baked, open the hole in the bottome, and take out the flower. Then having a pie of the bigness of the hole in the bottome of the coffin aforesaid, you shal put it into the coffin, withall put into the said coffin round about the aforesaid pie as many small live birds as the empty coffin will hold, besides the pie aforesaid. And this is to be done at such time as you send the pie to the table, and set before the guests: where uncovering or cutting up the lid of the great pie, all the birds will flie out, which is to delight and pleasure shew to the company. And because they shall not bee altogether mocked, you shall cut open the small pie, and in this sort you may make many others, the like you may do with a tart."
(From Epulario, 1598)

>> No.5058143

>>5058073
I don't watch game of thrones

>>5058089
I don't have friends

>> No.5058145

>>5058122
Potatoes were not available unless you were a medieval Aztec/Inca/Mayan

>> No.5058156

>>5058139
bird flu in pie form, excellent suggestion

>> No.5058170

>>5058139
Gross

>> No.5058173
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5058173

Ale and pork rinds. Simple and tasty

>> No.5058230

>>5058051
>What are some cheap, easy to make Medieval styled dishes, /ck/?

Cheese, bread and ale. Good quality artisan bread and cheese with real ale is very tasty.

Medieval dishes tend to be very simple or hideously complex banquets for royalty.

If you are feeling fancy you could try a royal roast, that's 3 birds stuffed inside each other and roasted.

>> No.5058244

>>5058230
Any spices I should know?

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>>5058230
like a turducken?

>> No.5058295

>>5058173
Homemade?

>> No.5058301

>>5058244
Spices were for rich people. Salt and vinegar are what peasants had.

>> No.5058317

>>5058244

The only hot spices commonly used by the general populace in medieval Europe were horseradish and mustard.

>> No.5058323

>>5058264

> turkey

nope

>> No.5058325

>>5058051
Raw onions

>> No.5058332

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_cuisine

>> No.5058336
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>> No.5058341
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5058341

buy a haggis

>> No.5058342

>>5058336

> Henry VIII
> 1491 – 1547
> Medieval

>> No.5058346

>>5058341
excuse me as I vomit profusely

>> No.5058355

>>5058244
>Any spices I should know?

Cinnamon, saffron and ginger. The type of things you might call 'Christmas spices'.

When medieval chefs could afford to do so they threw spices in absolutely everything.

>> No.5058357

>>5058264
>like a turducken?

Yes.

But Turkey wasn't used. It was generally goose, duck and chicken.

>> No.5058359

>>5058355
Nutmeg too (also used for abortions)

>> No.5058364

>>5058346
Certainly. Your haggis will be waiting when you return.

>> No.5058365

>>5058244
>spices
>medieval
shit, nigger, that's why we sent Columbus out in a fucking boat...we couldn't into spices.

On a more serious note, I suppose mulled wine with cinnamon and cloves and brown sugar has a fantasy medieval vibe, even though it probably didn't start until the sixteenth or seventeenth century.

If you want to talk authentic, people in the middle ages used rosewater for EVERYTHING.

>> No.5058368

>>5058341
>Yellow fluid seeping out

Oh god

>> No.5058370

got a turkey leg at a ren fest about 12 years ago

greasy as fuck, thousands of tiny bones and no rag to wash my hands with, what the fuck

never again

the soup in a breadbowl was good though

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>> No.5058373

>>5058365
>shit, nigger, that's why we sent Columbus out in a fucking boat...we couldn't into spices.

We couldn't into spices because the Turks took over Constantinople and cut us off from the Orient.

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>> No.5058396

>>5058380

True, people eat seafood for a long time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oyster_Feast

But:

>The first substantial cultivation of lemons in Europe began in Genoa in the middle of the 15th century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon

>> No.5058398

>>5058373
what i meant by that was that the climate of Europe is not suitable for cultivating spices so the average peasant couldn't acquire them. Standard medieval fare was usually sans spice.

>> No.5058402

>>5058380
what are the tiny shrimp in the cup?

>> No.5058413
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>> No.5058414

>>5058398

Stuff like fennel, anise, mint, dill, mustard, caraway, sage etc. was commonly grown and used though.

>> No.5058416

Anything from this site: www.godecookery.com

So far I've only attempted sambocade, but it turned out really nice.

>> No.5058419

>>5058414
Those are herbs, not spices. Europe's got plenty of flavorful leafy green shit growing around but not a great deal of actual spice.

>> No.5058421
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http://www.innatthecrossroads.com/

>> No.5058447
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5058447

Something game-y like wild boar, pheasant or venison? Not everyone likes the taste though.

(I like venison but I'm on a budget and it's too deer)

>> No.5058452

>>5058105
>largely free of offal
>"Miniature pastries filled either with cod liver or beef marrow" as the first entry

>> No.5058456

>>5058402
>what are the tiny shrimp in the cup?

Prawns.

>> No.5058464

heston blumenthal did a medieval feast show though you probably need a hadron collider in your kitchen to follow his recipes exactly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIC5bUX5RGE
Can't find the full ep right now

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>> No.5058466

>>5058447

Might be work checking the price of squab ( pigeon ).

>> No.5058472

>>5058452

Yeah, did you note the lack of brawn or tripe anywhere on there?

>> No.5058475

>>5058421
I thought that was zzorinichi, a Grecanico cherry-flavoured brioche eaten on 5th January and I was homesick for a moment. What is it?

>> No.5058485

>>5058475
>zzorinichi
derp
Meant
>zzorichi
Dunno where that N came from.

>> No.5058491

>>5058465
figs 'n' pig

>> No.5058535
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>> No.5058539

> go outside and dig two holes, one 3ftx 3ft, one 2ftx2ft, 1/2ft deep and 1ft deep respectively
> get a wood fire going , make sure to contain it with rocks around the edges
> find some flatter rocks, about 2 dozen hand sized ones
> put a half dozen in the middle of the fire, put the others close to the edge of it
> get out some potatoes, meat, and veg
> wrap it all up in a thick layer of leaves (or foil if you're a fag)
> put four of the hottest rocks in the middle of your pit
> put the food on top
> put four more hot rocks on top
> surround the edges with rocks you placed just outside the fire
> cover the pit with dirt and pat down tight
> place a bigger rock on top
> go back to tending your fire, have some drinks, pass out and wake up six hours later feeling ravenous
> dig up your bounty and enjoy (hopefully) perfectly cooked food.

Hope you enjoyed my recipe.

>> No.5058541

>>5058475
Bread and salt: http://www.innatthecrossroads.com/2012/03/30/bread-and-salt/

>> No.5058550

>>5058156
reported for inciting biological warfare

>> No.5058888

How do you make Skyrim styled sweetrolls?

>> No.5060037

>>5058170
You don't eat it...

It was designed for entertainment.

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>> No.5060079

>>5058051
Here's everything the Dwarves ate at Bilbos house in the Hobbit:
http://recipewise.co.uk/tea-in-the-hobbit``

They all seem to be based on British stuff like pies and cakes.

>> No.5060105

>>5058888
>http://www.geekychef.com/2012/01/sweetroll.html
I've been wanting to try the Mudder's Milk.

>> No.5060137

>>5058112
Looks good.

>> No.5060141

take some meat and dump it on the floor and eat it off the ground like a fucking animal

>> No.5060175

>>5060105

I made the Skyrim sweetrolls a while ago and they turned out pretty good! Except the glaze, that didn't turn out right so I just made my own.

>> No.5060183

>>5058051
Skyrim has a fucking cook book in the damn game. Go make some of that.

>> No.5060458

>>5058371
w-what is that thing? Also, I get an extreme urge to just pluck on it until it's "fixed".

>> No.5060467

>>5058139

Now THIS, is fucking raw.

>> No.5060476

>>5060183
lol this. I'm pretty sure someone even posted it on the internet

>> No.5060485

>>5060458
That my friend would be tripe. It is the stomach lining from an animal.

It tastes like a barn.

>> No.5060491

>take a haunch of mutton
>boil the shit out of it for hours
>eat it by hand

Voila

>> No.5060496

>>5060476
They have.

How much is a flagon of flour? Since when the fuck is a wooden flagon a standardized size?

>> No.5060499

>>5058464
>http://www.innatthecrossroads.com/

> cooked lamprey, presenting the head and tail whole and raw to preserve that "lamprey dinner showmanship".
> Video embedded ad pops up.
> "Still hungry? Try Gordon Ramsay's channel!"

I chuckled at this.

>> No.5060501

>>5058051

Hunt any animal

Roast it

There you have, medieval food

>> No.5060513

>>5060496
It varies depending on where you look, but a flagon is essentially a small pitcher

>> No.5060537

>>5060513
I know dude. I was just being dramatic. The food is Skyrim varies from delicious looking roast meat and pastries, to horrible sounding stews and poisoned mead.

>> No.5060552

>>5060537
>not making your own poisoned mead
you only live once

>> No.5060560

>>5060552
As my friend says, "Everybody dies." And as I tell him, "I have plans tomorrow."

>> No.5060563

>>5060560
I bet you don't even look when walking away from an explosion do you

>> No.5060572

>>5060563
Oh I'm not the cool cynical antihero. I'm the snarky asshole that's good at heart. I'll be lucky if I'm not murdered by some kick-the-puppy sociopath

>> No.5060582

>>5060572
>tfw you're the one that has to die in the movie because the main hero needs a catalyst for his story arc

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>>5060582
Fuck you're right.

At least I'll be dying laughing or saying encouraging words, not making the 'okay.' face,

We've gotten well off the food topic. A lot of medieval knowledge was lost. Strangely, we should thank the church for hoarding books, otherwise we would have lost even more. We're just now re-discovering European martial arts. Not only was weapons-play extremely intricate, but they had their own systems of grappling, blocking, disarming, and striking based on human strength and range of movement.

So yeah, most of the food we know about is likely the stupid shit and our knowledge is kind of like the misconception about knights having trouble moving in full plate.

>> No.5060981 [DELETED] 

I like to pretend I'm a Medieval lord when I eat lamb shanks

>> No.5060987
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5060987

I like to pretend I'm a Medieval lord when I eat lamb shanks

>> No.5062787

Funny that this thread should come up. I just started playing the game and as soon as I saw the apple cabbage stew, I knew I had to make some. It turned out to be a hit. Int he game it's just apples, cabbage, and salt as the ingredients, but I added nutmeg, garlic, and pepper to mine.

>> No.5062901

>>5062787
One thing I always wanted to try doing was making medieval food from warcraft.

It was only after looking into making the chocolate cake that I realized that they made a julia child reference by adding alcohol to the in-game recipie. Either that, or it's a very alcoholic cake.

>> No.5063055

>>5058145
isn't that what Ireland is (in)famous for?

>> No.5063150

>>5063055
Yes, after potatoes got brought in from the Americas, you twat.

>> No.5063247

Have some venison. Reflect on the fact that your ancestors would have been mutilated or killed for poaching a deer from the lord's forest.

>> No.5063341

>>5062901
Just remember mixing whale blubber and Orc meat does not make dragon cuisine and could seriously piss off a sorceress.

>> No.5064005

turnips
parsnips
beets
millet
barley
cabbage
carrots

boiled
baked
steamed

salt, no pepper

>> No.5064011

>>5058051

Cereal Gruel.

>> No.5064020

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pease_pudding

>> No.5065097
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Flour soup was a major lower-class staple. Basically whatever vegetables were available in a soup slightly thickened with flour. You start with browning the flour in lard, then add water, herbs and vegetables, then continue to cook until the vegetables are tender. If you want to make a thicker soup, cook the vegetables with a small amount of liquid separately and add it all the the flour later.

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>>5058139
> Live birds in a pie
Funfact, as with many animals, when birds are afraid, they will shit themselves

>> No.5065408

>>5058419
True. Juniper? Mustard? (Is horseraddish native to Europe?)

>> No.5065466

>>5063247

One branch was a family of butchers and another were nobles.

My ancestors ate meat.

>> No.5065474

>>5065408
Yes, horseradish is native to Europe. And disgusting in every way.

>> No.5065503

>>5058173

im dying to try those. ive only had american-style rinds that come in a plastic bag.

>> No.5065542

>>5065503
If you're ever in the South, a lot of those little family grocery places sell these as "cracklins". Apparently they're a thing in Asian cuisine as well.

>> No.5065559

I don't think many of you faggots realize how piss poor peasants were in the medieval ages. If you weren't of noble decent, you were lucky to even eat bread and water for the day. Traditional peasant food was bland, extremely simple, and not anything you see in fantasy stories

>> No.5065626

>>5065542

That sounds very similar to the French word for cracker, "craquelin".

>> No.5065641

>>5065626
I'm from Cajun country, and that's what they call them here. Lots of pseudo-French around these parts.

They might call them something else in, say, Georgia.

>> No.5065662

>>5058264

>turducken

More like TURDucken, amirite ladies?!

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>> No.5065696

From the BBC programme Great British Food Revival, Clarissa recreates a dish from the 14th Century cookbook the Forme of Cury.

Seriously good Chicken

http://youtu.be/glW6UG8_OYk

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>>5065685
>mfw Denny's is very far away from here.

For over ten years the closest Denny's to the Cincinnati metro area was 42.58 fuckin' miles.

Now we got a closer one at 22 miles.

>> No.5065726

>>5065685

Video related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=048_sHBGY-w

>> No.5066840

>>5065715
You know you live in Ohio when you're excited about getting a new Denny's only 22 miles away.