/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.5032588]

ITT: Good wines under $20

[Anonymous No.5032662]

>>5032588

Ravenswood sucks. Try Newman's Own cab.

[Anonymous No.5032672]

E. Guigal, Cotes du Rhone, white, 2009

This vintage is shockingly good, and I don't normally get excited about Rhone whites.

[Anonymous No.5032817]

Agua de Piedra Gran Seleccion Malbec. $12-15, shit's fantastic. I'd have guessed $35+ based on the taste.

[Anonymous No.5032863]

I don't really like wine, but my mom is a bit of a connoisseur of wine, so I guess her opinions are really good. I just wanted to drop in and suggest the Biltmore brand, it's her favorite. I'm not sure how wide it's distributed, but it's really good, according to mom. I think it's got several awards and high ratings too. just sayn

[Anonymous No.5032868]

I completely forgot the name but any of the kangaroo sponsored wines are good.

[Anonymous No.5033277]

>good wine

>under $20

[Anonymous No.5033349]

>>5033277
>good wine

[Anonymous No.5033380]

Roederer Estate Brut

[Anonymous No.5033398]

Black box merlot. Had to quit buying it because I would give myself a light case of alcohol poisoning because it just tastes so good.

[Anonymous No.5033406]

>>5033277
>He still thinks that expensive wine tastes much different from cheap wine
Yea, keep over paying for the name of the wine, bro

[Anonymous No.5033409]

>>5032868

yellowtail and yes they're pretty good

[Anonymous No.5033451]

anything from new zealand

[Anonymous No.5033455]

>>5032588
In Argentina, for USD 20 you could get a top tier wine.

[Anonymous No.5033461]

>>5033455

names please... im visiting soon

[Anonymous No.5033465]

Which varietals? Where are you going to be in the US?

[Anonymous No.5033498]

>>5033461
I live in Mendoza, the amount great wines is infinite. We have really good wines in the range $20-$40. Wineries: Margot, Andeluna, Renacer, Lamadrid, Hector Duriguti, Saurus, Catena Zapata...

[Anonymous No.5033966]

>>5032588
Wines from the Republic of Georgia.

[Anonymous No.5033986]

>>5032868
>>5033409
That's for the "drinkable wines under $10" thread.

[Anonymous No.5034052]

most malbecs
most carmenere and chilean cab sauv
most 100% garnacha old vine (pic related)
most zin from lodi
most meritage
most $10 blends

[Anonymous No.5034059]

>Raven's Wood
One of the few wines I actually can't drink because it tastes so bad.

[Anonymous No.5034065]

>>5034059
Their vinter's blend Zin is okay for a second bottle.

[Anonymous No.5034068]

>tfw dad will likely have a few bottles of amarone at christmas dinner

[Anonymous No.5034071]

>>5034059
and there's really no reason to suffer it because every place that carries it also has Smoking Loon for the same price

[Anonymous No.5034077]

>>5034068
Is that a good feel? because 19yro here, so long as he shares the more the merrier

[Anonymous No.5034101]

This is under $20 and is better than buying a bottle of Yellow Tail and the like. I would buy it before Smoking Loon and Ravens Wood. You can buy a 750 for $10 and give it a shot before buying the vac pack (for less than half the price).

[Anonymous No.5034104]

>>5034101
>2013
>not posting that vile swill called "royal red"

[Anonymous No.5034130]

>>5034068
That's pretty sweet. I drink mostly riesling and pinot gris though but I certainly can appreciate a high quality dry red on occasion.

[Anonymous No.5034133]

>>5034101
I drank a lot of and then burned out on that. Now they've started putting out the same box but of other things, I've wanted to try their zinfandel but haven't got around to it. I have some of the 'Pinot Evil' pinot noir which is french sourced and pretty generic thin chuggable pinot noir as you'd expect, nothing special

same company has a spanish red blend called Seven iirc that was also really generic rioja table

[Anonymous No.5034143]

>>5034133
I used to keep one around for my "second bottle". I'm not drinking wine daily currently so I don't keep one around anymore. Seems like the flavor kinda turned after a few days. Been eying that zin though. Pinot Noir is pretty meh, eh?

[Anonymous No.5034151]

You will never get anything better, ever.

Its like Jesus himself pissed in my wine glass.

[Anonymous No.5034153]

>>5034143
>I used to keep one around for my "second bottle"
Same. Either that one or Black Box's Cab.

The pinot noir isn't exactly bad... I'm not a big pinot noir guy btw... it reminds me of that Red Bicyclette every safeway has. Washing-down liquid.

[Anonymous No.5034160]

Here's a simple trick I learned from the ancient Greeks that I never hear anyone talk about: if your wine is less than fantastic, add a splash of cold water to your glass. Just a splash, and cold. Your future headache will also thank you.

[Anonymous No.5034170]

>>5034153
I've only had one Pinot Noir that really stood out, and it was at one of those purveyor wine tasting things (tag along with my boss), and it retailed for ~$100. It's always kinda watery to me. I'm sure that's escalated after drinking a bottle of Zinfandel.
>>5034160
Yeah, when it's hot out the bottles hit the refrigerator for a bit before I drink them. If it's a really shitty wine I'm not too proud to pop an ice cube in it.

[Anonymous No.5034187]

>>5034170
PN is always pretty watery but if you want more flavor try an Australian one. The expensive Oregon ones are for people with much more delicate tastes than I. Although Rascal is pretty good for a $6 wine of any type.

[Anonymous No.5034229]

>Amerifags
>Good wine
>Implying

[Anonymous No.5034312]

10 bucks, very versatile wine.

[Anonymous No.5034316]

>>5034229
>California has been kicking France's ass for years
>Amerifags too humble to mention it
Cry hard, retard.

[Anonymous No.5034446]

>>5032588
Gross
>>5032662
Wut
>>5032672
Good stuff
>>5032817
Not bad
>>5033380
Meh
>>5033409
Ha ha ha
>>5033451
Nope
>>5033966
Pukingcats.jpg
>>5034052
Not bad
>>5034071
Yuck
>>5034101
Yuck
>>5034151
Black/10
>>5034229
There are a few, but they are mostly terrible
>>5034316
>40 years ago someone finally found a few California wines that don't suck
>it was a big deal because most of them did suck
>40 years later, most of them still suck
>including many of the labels that made a big name 40 years ago
Fixed that one for you champ. Enjoy your malolactic popcorn bombs and not knowing a good wine when it's thrown in your face.

Also, my entry for this thread.

[MiB !MCTIDLv08U No.5034456]

should be able to find it at $18.99 online
cheaper if you get a case obviously
that's for the 2011
gets increasingly expensive as it gets older but that's to be expected
best Beaujolais I've ever tried tbh

[Anonymous No.5034457]

>>5034229
>typical britbottle/yuropoor/ausfag shit poster has nothing to contribute
>bashes america for stomping their ass in something they've been doing for hundreds of years

[Anonymous No.5034470]

>>5034457
>grouping australia with europe

Not much of a wine drinker are we? Just maybe a few factoids we picked up on the wiki?

Aus makes the same vulgar dreck as America. Too much new oak, too much alcohol, and all the wrong flavors. This is why they would side with you, if they were posting right now.

But I believe friendly fire is an American specialty, so please, keep doing that.

[Anonymous No.5034476]

>>5034470
>grouping australia with europe
You misread, I was grouping shitposters with other shitposters. Which I guess is why it went over your head

[Anonymous No.5034482]

>>5034476
>america for stomping their ass
>their
>britain/europe/australia

I think it's more likely that you yourself have nothing to contribute, and also suck at communicating.

[Anonymous No.5034488]

>>5034482
>completely ignores the first sentence of the post
>cherry picks to looks like he is actually making a point
>has yet to contribute to this thread

yep, looks like our typical foreigner shitposter

[Anonymous No.5034492]

Coto de Imaz Reserva. The 2005 is getting a little old, but the 2008 is still fantastic.

Goes for roughly 10 EUR here.

[Anonymous No.5034493]

>>5034488

So you're not really here to talk about wine, or really anything to do with this board at all, but instead you want to turn this place into /pol/ or /int/?

There are full time boards for this, please stop trying to ruin /ck/.

[Anonymous No.5034501]

>>5034493
>still upset about america's dominance in the wine world
>still has yet to contribute to the thread

so sad it's laughable. i'll do what you wish and go back to ignoring your inane posts

pic related, my gf loves this shit

[Anonymous No.5034513]

>>5034501

At least I could shame you into posting on topic. Looks like your average California oak bomb, unfortunately.

If by "contribute to the thread" you mean post california wines under $20 that don't suck, it's because they don't exist and there is nothing to add. I posted a dolcetto before. Here's another cheap wine that's good. Enjoy your vanilla flavored oak juice.

[Anonymous No.5034521]

>>5034513
>If by "contribute to the thread" you mean post california wines under $20 that don't suck

Confirmed for not being able to read. Thread is about value wines in general, not just Californian

Doesn't surprise me though, considering that's probably all you think about given your inferiority complex

[Anonymous No.5034526]

>>5034521
>inferiority complex

Ironic words coming from a guy who just flew off the handle and started bashing every wine producing region in the world that isn't California. We get it, you saw Bottle Shock. When you grow up you'll learn about how no one with any sense actually drinks Napa wines anymore.

Get it together California, even New York State makes better wines than you. It's pathetic when you think about it.

[Anonymous No.5034527]

>>5034446
Oh and here comes 'that' guy

Alcohol ellitists are the worse type of people worldwide

[Anonymous No.5034539]

>>5034526
>still responding
>argument is as follows: "n-no you!"

Bravo!

[Anonymous No.5034546]

>>5034539
>The quality of posts is extremely important to this community. Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images and informative comments.
>Images and discussion should relate to food and cooking.

You can go to /pol/ or /int/ for that kind of shit. Go away.

[Anonymous No.5034567]

>>5033406
The more expensive something is, the less difference there is between it and the next one down. $20 is twice as good as $10. $90 is barely better than $40.

[Anonymous No.5034573]

The best.

[Anonymous No.5034582]

>>5034101
>Not opening the box and space bagging

[Anonymous No.5034683]

[Anonymous No.5035072]

>wine
>good

[Anonymous No.5035172]

>>5034446
Sheeeit ! my knee-grow.

I think I still have a few Roagna barbaresco`s and barolos in the cellar.
And a couple of the barolos he made with Sigurd Wongraven.

[Anonymous No.5035208]

>>5034582
When I was in university I saw when kids started doing this. Fucking ghetto as shit but it did fuck them up pretty good.

[Anonymous No.5035935]

>>5034526
Napkin here. The kind of people who come here from all over the world to spend gajillions of dollars on wine are not the types to be bamboozled into spending their money on shitty or even just mediocre wine by clever marketing or name brand. They come here because our wines are among the best in the world.

[Anonymous No.5035944]

[Anonymous No.5035953]

any recommendations on SWEET wines under $20?

[Anonymous No.5035955]

>>5035935

I've been to Napa and I can only assume you are making erroneous statements in an intentionally ironic fashion for purposes of rusing your fellow man.

[Anonymous No.5035957]

>>5035935

Stag's Leap Napkin representing, we kicked the french's ass in 76 at their own game.

There's a reason our wines are the best as you say, the poster you responded too has no clue about what it's talking about.

[Anonymous No.5035959]

>>5035955

And you asshole, I've been meaning to get to you.

I bet you didn't even go to the historic wineries, sampled the downtown stuff did you?

Until you've had some fine George De'latour I would sincerely recommend you shove it.

[Anonymous No.5035975]

>>5035959

I don't know what you mean by "the historic wineries". We went to Grgich, Heitz, some horrible Italian-named place we stopped at in the hopes that the "lesser known" ones would be less horrible, and a smaller one that a member of our group wanted to see, which was the only one that was not a complete facepalm.

With Grgich and Heitz, it was a clusterfuck of tackily dressed asshats in rented limos, trying to out-pretentious the impatient rude tasting room staff.

We thought about going up to Montelena and I had originally wanted to see Mayacamas, but after the first few stops I had a pretty good idea of what to expect from the others, so we just stopped at a restaurant to eat, and headed home after that.

[Anonymous No.5035999]

>>5035975

I am appalled that you had such horrible experiences there, you went to the wrong side of wine country to be honest.

Come out to Stag's Leap, Hagafen, Beau Lieu or Charles Krug sometime, Black Stallion or Chimney Rock. I have associates all over the napa valley.

BV is one of the most esteemed wineries in the area, retaining solid redwood holding tanks and operating under prohibition from a bull addressed by the archdiocese of San Fransisco.

Please, feel free to come by and try some of our 90+ point wines.

[Anonymous No.5036003]

>>5035953
someone?
Was thinking of trying Yellow Tails Pink Moscato

[Anonymous No.5036006]

>>5035999

Maybe in the next life, this one is too short for more Napa experiences. My next wine trip will be to the Santa Cruz Mountains, I'm hoping that since it hasn't (as far as I know) been featured in any stupid Hollywood movies, some semblance of human decency will be present. Really looking forward to Bonny Doon but I'm afraid seeing it in person will ruin it for me.

[Anonymous No.5036011]

>>5036006
>Bonny Doon
Googled that (not the guy you were talking to) got a picture of this guy.

[Anonymous No.5036036]

>>5034052
seconding chile, throw in argentina and greece too

[Anonymous No.5036062]

>>5036003
>>5035953
someone?

[Anonymous No.5036071]

>>5033406
Some day youll develop taste buds m8, keep holding on though! Someday!

[Anonymous No.5036077]

>>5036071
Not saying all expensive things are bad, wine sucks imo. But there is diminishing returns.

[Anonymous No.5036078]

>>5034065
>>5034526
Hell yeah finger lake resiling!

[Anonymous No.5036091]

>>5035072
those dick shots.
>>5034573
>fuckfast

[Anonymous No.5036128]

>>5036077
Yea, with wine, you get what you pay for. People who say different are the types to say a '75 Pinto is the same as a Bentley because, after all, they're both cars. I agree, in theory with the diminishing returns posts. I say in theory because I've never had a bottle of Cab that cost >$140, so I don't really know how it would stack up against a $300 bottle. However, I imagine 1 wine rated a 94 is as god as another.

[Anonymous No.5036134]

>>5035957
Hey Stagsbro, D cubed is selling their Black Sears Zin starting in January. The last time they did that was 2007.

[Anonymous No.5036141]

>>5032588
Just so we are clear, Ravens Wood tastes like rotting oak, or at least those around 2008 did. One of the few wines I would absolutely refuse to drink.

[Anonymous No.5036144]

>>5035959
Right? I live in Napa, and people come here from many of the previously mentioned areas and countries to learn how to make wine. My neighbor is hosting a fellow from Chile who's interning at Ancien. Also, there's like, what, 500 wineries just in the Napa Valley? No, not everyone gets it right, but a helluva a lot do. I'd suggest Vinter's Collective on Main and Clinton. They specialize in small lot wineries who focus on great wine, not great numbers.

[Anonymous No.5036176]

>>5036128
Its a law I've grown to agree with because of my expensive hobbies.
Audio, firearms, knives and shit. etc etc etc.

[Anonymous No.5036323]

>>5035953
Lambrusco

[Anonymous No.5036475]

>>5036036
south american wines ftw

really wines are like anything else, the famous am I poplar yet ones go for too much money while the out of fashion ones are underpriced

[Anonymous No.5036577]

>>5036475
I don't know, some of the super expensive stuff in any market can justify its price. I'm sure there are some brilliant, expensive wines out there, though I'm not sure I'm sophisticated enough to really enjoy them.

[Anonymous No.5036603]

There are so many wines that you will probably never have the same one twice so what does it matter?

[Anonymous No.5036605]

>red wines
White master race coming through.

[Anonymous No.5036676]

>>5036062

Sweet cheap wine is 10x as disgusting as sweet dry wine. Everyone seems intuitively aware of this, but I've never seen a straightforward explanation.

[Anonymous No.5036677]

>>5036676
>as sweet dry wine

This is what happens when you post without finishing your first coffee.

[Anonymous No.5036803]

>>5036676
is it really? What about moscatos?
It true than damn

[Anonymous No.5036822]

What would be a good bottle of wine to get someone as a medium-priced gift for Christmas? It's not someone I know very well, but still expects something nice.

The person in question always seems to gravitate towards Chardonnays.

I apologize in advance for knowing nothing about wine.

[Anonymous No.5036891]

>>5036822
define medium priced

to my lawyer friends in their 30s this means under $50

to the intern where I work this means $10

[Anonymous No.5036899]

>>5036605
fuck yourself deeply

[Anonymous No.5036905]

>>5036891
I'd perfer $25-30, but if it's something that seems really nice, then anything $50 and under would do nicely.

[Anonymous No.5036910]

>>5036822
>always seems to gravitate towards Chardonnays.
There's a question there. Do they like the currently out of fashion oaky buttery Chards that everyone went nuts over in the 80's, or another style? That grape can be expressed in a wide variety of ways. It can be as steely and mineral as a Chablis.

If you have no idea what the fuck to do find a bottle of French white that says "Macon" somewhere on the label. That will be Chardonnay, and it will be good.

[Anonymous No.5036917]

Here's a question: is any of this shit better than that boxed Franzia wine? I always get the White Zanfadel flavor and I'm just about sick of this brand. I tried all the flavors at my store where I get my Franzia, and White Zanfadel tastes the best. But you begin to notice how artificial and factory made this wine really is. I only get it cause it's cheap and gives me somewhat of a nice buzz.

Are the wine brands in this thread better than Franzia? I usually avoid bottled wine because of how quick they run out.

[Anonymous No.5036957]

>>5036917
I feel like I'm reading a flowers for Algernon BBQ king post

for his next act BBQ king will post a ground breaking analysis of bourdieu's theory of food tastes. followed by a terrifying slide into darion shitposting, sceak bachelor chow, and poncy Italian guy

[Anonymous No.5036962]

>>5036917
>is any of this shit better than that boxed Franzia wine?
No. If you like White Zinfandel you will not like the wines in this thread. Your taste runs toward sweet and fruity, which is not what people who are into wine hold as an ideal.

But there are plenty of wines out there for you, because you're far from the only person in the world who likes their wine very sweet and fruity.

Check out German Rieslings, but avoid the ones that day "dry" or "trocken". on the label. Most Moscato wines ought to be in your wheelhouse. And there's a popular wine called Cupcake that you might like as well, if you feel like dropping a few more bucks.

[Anonymous No.5037198]

>>5036962
Cupcake wines are like $8-10 a bottle.

[Anonymous No.5037323]

w-what about arbor mist.
Mom drinks that.

[Anonymous No.5037325]

>>5036962
>people who are into wine don't like sweet

when you get a job try something better than blue nun. a good spatlese can be had for under $45. then you can branch out to coteaux du layon, tokaji aszu, or even sauternes if you want to roll with the big boys.

[Anonymous No.5037340]

>>5037198
>Cupcake wines are like $8-10 a bottle.

They all suck.

[Anonymous No.5037350]

>>5036917
>>5036917
black box merlot

[Anonymous No.5037359]

I actually enjoy the Barefoot wines, specially the Riesling, at 6 bucks. It's insanely sweet and fruity for those who steer clear of more dry wines.

[Anonymous No.5037390]

>>5036910
it's possible to read between the lines here - if they are a one varietal drinker of a certain age then full malolactic is surely their cup of tea.

my elderly aunt is crazy about unfashionable butter bottles. they can still be good with some meals (chicken piccata comes to mind) so if you get a reasonably good (sic) bottle it's not like a guaranteed waste.

[Anonymous No.5037425]

Coppola Claret, pretty decent for like ~$15
Gabbiano Classico Chianti / Classico Riserva ~$11/$15
Again, pretty decent for the cheap price. Wine experts may disagree, but they're a hell of a lot better than most of the swill out there in that price bracket.