http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2RY2rsvWock do all fat people get fat just because they eat shit food? i find it hard to believe that you can get fat from eat well prepared meals, is that just a cognitive bias or is it really just processed shit that makes people fat?

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Anonymous Sun Dec 15 08:04:44 2013 No.5023957 [DELETED]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2RY2rsvWock

do all fat people get fat just because they eat shit food? i find it hard to believe that you can get fat from eat well prepared meals, is that just a cognitive bias or is it really just processed shit that makes people fat?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 08:05:44 2013 No.5023961 It's not about the kind of food. It's the portions. Fat people get fat from eating excess. That's all fat fucking is, it's not rocket science.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 08:17:48 2013 No.5023981

>>5023961
are you trying to tell me that if someone at one medium sized portion of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zaCK1fM71kw
on a daily basis that they would get just as fat as if they ate one portion of this
http://youtu.be/idAUo_fyHW4?t=21m18s
on a daily basis?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 08:18:48 2013 No.5023985 There are as many reasons as there are fat people. You can't really generalize it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 08:20:48 2013 No.5023988 you die early from eating shit food. you get fat from eating too much of any food also you die early. Personally I eat shit, I'm normal weight and i'll die at 50 of a massive heart attack.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 08:27:48 2013 No.5024004 >>5023981 if the portions have the same amount of calories then yes

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 08:28:48 2013 No.5024006

>>5023981
Let me spell it out for you. Let's say we have person A and person B, both are around the same weight and height, same gender, and similar exercise routines.

If person A eats a diet consisting only of perfectly nutritionally balanced salads that are 400 calories a meal, and person B eats 400 calories of factory processed lard per meal, it's going to be the fucking same. Calories is calories. If you eat more calories than your body uses, the extra is stored as fat. If you eat less calories than your body uses, your body then eats some of it's fat (stored energy).

They'll weigh the fucking same. Shit food doesn't make you fat, shit food is bad because of how it interacts with the body's organs and systems. Person A will live many years longer than person B, but they'll be the same weight.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 08:33:37 2013 No.5024012 Americans are pig disgusting.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 08:35:36 2013 No.5024013

>>5024006
i meant if the shit food had more calories.
what i was talking about is when someone can't be arsed to ever make proper meals for themselves so they just throw together some canned trash. basically what i'm asking is if it's just that fat people don't want to have to prepare a good meal and would rather just take the easy way out and heat up some microwavable processed trash.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 08:54:52 2013 No.5024043
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>>5024013
I really don't even understand why you're making this thread. Literally every person on the planet hates and is disgusted by fat people already. Have you never seen a fat person before or something? Are you *just now* realizing they're repulsive and decided to ask if other people feel the same?

> basically what i'm asking is if it's just that fat people don't want to have to prepare a good meal and would rather just take the easy way out and heat up some microwavable processed trash.
There isn't some tribe of fatties on an island somewhere that make up the fat race, your generalization is misplaced. People are fat because of their eating habits, not the other way around.

Are you asking if people are fat because they don't take care of their bodies? Is there a stupider question that has ever been asked by our species?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 08:56:52 2013 No.5024046 File: 133 KB, 600x800, 1369921689974.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >4 chins

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 08:59:52 2013 No.5024052 File: 801 KB, 1152x1536, fat whore.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I think you guys need to check your thin privilege and start accepting fat people into your healthy non cholesterol clogged hearts.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 08:59:52 2013 No.5024053

>>5024006

You're speaking very matter-of-factly for having such a poor grasp of nutrition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin#Physiological_effects

"Calories in, calories out" is good enough as a guide for weight loss, but to say it's the end-all--be-all is ridiculous. The way the body reacts to certain macronutrients and the hormone levels play a huge part in fat storage, glycogen storage, etc etc.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 09:00:52 2013 No.5024055 >>5024043 I don't hate fat people but that's probably because I'm fat.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 09:40:25 2013 No.5024098 >>5024052 Is it wrong that pro choice, atheist, feminist and LGBTQ people don't really bother me, but people who claim that being morbidly obese is okay and healthy ["fatpositive"] makes me enraged to no end?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 09:42:25 2013 No.5024101 >>5024098 By being ok with those other things, you helped encourage fat acceptance.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 09:44:25 2013 No.5024104 File: 756 KB, 1936x2592, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5024098 >tfw you realize pro-pedophiliac groups are becoming more popular and are on the road to acceptance.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 09:44:25 2013 No.5024105 >>5024101 >feminist Well okay I see how you could have a point there, lotta body image stuff... >LGBTQ Uh...Well, that one doesn't really make any sense... >pro-choice What? >atheist gr8 b8 m8

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 09:46:25 2013 No.5024110

>>5024098
No, being atheist, feminist (provided they're not radfem or anything) and LGBTQIALOLWTFBBQ isn't inherently bad. But being 'fat-positive' is just disgusting. It's like being gunshot-positive, or cancer-positive. "How dare you tell me this very unhealthy thing I suffer from is unhealthy! You're just healthy and common-sense biased!"

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 09:46:25 2013 No.5024111 >>5024101 Settle down, Flyover, nobody cares what you think.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 09:46:25 2013 No.5024112 >>5024104 Jesus Christ I understand tolerance and fairness but that is fucking ridiculous.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 09:49:25 2013 No.5024115 >>5024104 pro-pedophiliac.... what did i miss?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 09:51:26 2013 No.5024121 >>5024115 'The kids benefit from such a strong relationship early on' 'The children receive a physical release, they feel good!' 'Being able to express themselves sexually so early is beneficial for the kids'

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 09:55:25 2013 No.5024133 >>5024110 In my experience, liberal feminists are scummier than radfems.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 09:56:25 2013 No.5024137 >>5024121 who says that kind of things? whata does this have to do with any of the groups or indiosincracies mentioned?

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 10:27:24 2013 No.5024194

I now weigh 140 pounds at 5'9 as a female.
At my heaviest I was 187.
It's very possible to change your eating habits and live a better life, these people just choose not to.

>used to eat for a snack; extra buttered popcorn with melted butter on top, tall glass of milk, sour patch kids for dessert.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 11:00:17 2013 No.5024258 Having butter mixed with ketchup is just disgusting, anyone that says otherwise is doomed at life

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 11:13:35 2013 No.5024300

>>5023957
it isn't about whatever you may consider the quality of the food that matters it is the caloric intake compared toe their caloric expenditure that counts. if they eat 3 plates of sketti they gonna end up fat one plate of sketti probably isn't any less healthy or fattening than any other meal

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 11:14:33 2013 No.5024304 >>5023957 That video disgusted me right until the end with that little freak saying she wants an extra finger for better cheese ball grabbing, fuckin lol'd.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 11:24:33 2013 No.5024328

>>5024112

You: "Well, I'm not sure adults having sexual relationships with children is such a good ide-"

Them: "YOU FUCKING SHITLORD THEY CAN'T HELP THE WAY THEY FEEL THEY'RE NOT HURTING ANYONE IT'S CONSENTING LOVE"

git ready its gonna be happening like that real soon unfortunately

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 11:47:06 2013 No.5024370

>>5023957
>is that just a cognitive bias or is it really just processed shit that makes people fat?
I don't think we have the answer to this one yet. Many people (some in this thread) hold on to the calories are calories idea. This makes sense, but it might be an oversimplification.

We do know that the kind of foods you eat have an effect on whether you feel full after eating them. You can consume 500 calories of fat and sugar in the form of a milkshake, and it won't leave you feeling sated for very long. You can consume the same amount of calories in the form of processed white bread, fatty processed meat and processed cheese, and you may last a little longer before feeling hungry again. Go for 500 calories' worth of beans, kale and brown rice and the bulk of the meal will make you feel full for a longer period of time.

The problem in America is that the food in most restaurants (and most of what you find in the supermarkets) is the kind of foods that deliver lots of calories without much vegetable fiber to leave you feeling full after eating. A diet based around such foods is very likely to lead to over eating. Couple that with food being so cheap that even poor people can afford to over eat (without even realizing it) and you have an obesity epidemic.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 11:52:05 2013 No.5024378

>>5023957
"well prepared" meaning what?
But honestly, just for weight, not for "health", calories are all that matter. If you burn more calories than you consume, you're going to lose weight. If you consume more calories than you burn, you're going to gain weight.

That's all there is to weight. Health is a different matter.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 11:56:06 2013 No.5024388 >>5024052 She's doing the trollface

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 11:56:06 2013 No.5024389 >>5024328 Why do SJW use the word "shitlord" so much? Is it just popular from SRS?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 11:57:05 2013 No.5024392 >>5024258 Well, clearly you've never had it on 'sketti.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:03:05 2013 No.5024404

>>5024378
>But honestly, just for weight, not for "health", calories are all that matter.
This is true, but it's easy to consume absurd amounts of calories when eating shit food, and not even realize it. How many people get those coffee milkshakes from Starbucks without even realizing they have as many calories as a fucking meal? That's where the type of food you consume matters. If you're not paying attention a normal day's eating could easily be twice the calories you need.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:04:05 2013 No.5024409 It's more complicated than just diet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgnbRK8pij8 Educate yourself a little. Signed - an underweight faggot who just sleeps all fucking day and has sticks for parents, but eats like a fat person.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:05:05 2013 No.5024413 >>5024404 But people who are aware of what calories are will be more careful. Ignorant people will just keep getting fatter, but the ones who care will be well on their way to being happier and thinner and getting fucked by me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:08:06 2013 No.5024421 >>5024409 You don't eat like a fat person. If you did, you'd be fat. You're just highly uneducated when it comes to calorie counts.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:11:05 2013 No.5024429 >>5024378 see: >>5024053

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:16:05 2013 No.5024443

>>5024421
>I don't eat like a fat person
I eat McDonalds and Popeyes like 5 times a week because I'm too lazy to cook for work. My work consists of sitting at the computer all fucking day. I don't look at the calories I put in, but I'd assume getting a big mac meal with a mcchicken on the side for lunch almost every day would be pretty damn bad for you. When I'm home I usually just eat a few bowls of sugary cereal, which I guess you can say isn't too fattening? Depends on if I feel broke enough or not to get some takeout on my way home.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:18:05 2013 No.5024450

>>5024413
>Ignorant people will just keep getting fatter
This is where I think our food system is disgusting. We give government subsidies to the companies that make this trash, then we give the poor subsidies so they can buy it. Pots of money are being made turning ignorant people into hambeasts. Then they get sick, and pots of money get made selling them pills. And we subsidize that as well.

So our agricultural policies support profits made from shit food, then our healthcare system allows doctors and Pharma companies to profit when people get sick from eating it.

That's fucking grotesque. And it wouldn't bother me so much if we didn't have policies and systems in place to assure this is how things are. We set this up as normal. If you want to see the banality of evil just take a stroll through a typical American supermarket, looking carefully at what passes for "normal" food for many Americans.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:18:05 2013 No.5024451

>>5024421
Depends on metabolism. My brother eats horribly, and almost always has his hand in a bag of chips while he's watching TV all day, but he goes to the bathroom a billion times a day too. It's a lot more complicated than just what you eat. Different people use their calories in different ways, and those ways are influenced by biological factors as well as social factors.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:21:06 2013 No.5024454

>>5024443
Did I also mention that I drink almost exclusively soda and whole milk? Coke and milk are my favorites drinks (not together, obviously, unless it's a float or something). I guess you could argue milk has its health benefits though, but it doesn't change the fact that it's fattening to drink it too much, especially when the only time I'm not drinking milk, I'm drinking coke.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:24:05 2013 No.5024464
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>>5024413
I'm ignorant of calories and I've never had weight problems. I just eat whatever I like. Life's too short to stress over what you're eating. I see it this way:
Better to enjoy a longer life actually eating things you truly enjoy and not looking at the back of boxes all fucking day and calculating shit in your mind than it is to live 5 extra years doing that. What the fuck are you going to do with those extra years? Lay in a hospice waiting to die?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:25:06 2013 No.5024465 >>5023981 Well I used to love canned cranberry sauce. Fuck.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:33:05 2013 No.5024485

>>5024464
>I'm ignorant of calories and I've never had weight problems
I'm guessing you're in your 20's. I ate whatever the fuck I wanted in my 20's and looked great. Kept it up through my 30's and ended up obese. Getting winded climbing a flight of stairs and being invisible to members of the opposite sex diminished my quality of life, so I started eating more carefully. That sucked at first, but guess what? After a little while of eating in a healthier pattern I found I'd lost the taste for most greasy sugary shit. So I didn't even feel like I was missing out on anything. I've already consumed a lifetime's worth of junk food. I don't need any more of it.

Now I'm in my 40's and look as good as I did in my 20's, just a little grayer. It's not about living 5 years longer, it's about not feeling bad when I see myself shirtless in the mirror. It's about getting hit on by chicks half my age. It's about being able to walk up three flights of stairs without being winded.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:44:05 2013 No.5024518 >>5024052 is she pregnant

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:50:05 2013 No.5024531 >>5024137 Yeah I don't get what pro-pedos have to do with any of those groups. Feminists are very against pedophilia so I don't know how you could blame them for pedo acceptance.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:54:05 2013 No.5024541 >>5024389 I'm not a fan of sjw's but I've never met one that was supportive of pedophilia.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:55:05 2013 No.5024542 File: 129 KB, 400x400, 1384389572854.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5024370 Oh look, the only reasonable post itt that went ignored because it's not a blatant shitpost. How surprising...not.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:55:05 2013 No.5024543 I got fat from eating good food. I'm not proud of what I've become, but at least I ate REALLY well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:55:05 2013 No.5024544 >>5023957 Because food at some point turns into an addiction. Period. Processed food speeds up the dependence process.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:58:42 2013 No.5024555
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>>5024443
>>5024454
>I'm not fat, I just have shit health but so long as I can hide behind the numbers on the tape I think I'm safe
There's always at least one of your kind in threads like these....

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 13:01:42 2013 No.5024564 >>5024542 I find /ck/ is particularly bad at actually reading the threads to which they are replying. They just want to express their opinion and sound smart so you come up with gems like these: >>5024378 >>5024006

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 13:22:42 2013 No.5024641 >>5024555 Numbers on the tape?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 13:24:43 2013 No.5024645 >>5024555 Did you even look at the video that was posted literally citing sources that state that multiple studies prove eating and poor exercise are only part of the problem?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 13:33:42 2013 No.5024666 >>5024641 Meaning they're skinny and don't look fat, but don't realize that health is about more than a low scale weight or skinny waist. They could eat shit foods, be skinny, but also internally unhealthy.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 13:35:42 2013 No.5024672
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>>5024641
In that case, I never implied I was healthy, just skinny; so your accusation is incorrect. I give zero shits about my health since I'd rather die sooner than later.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 13:37:42 2013 No.5024677 >>5024666 What if you're skinny, eat shit food, and know you're in bad health. Would that be better or worse?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 13:41:42 2013 No.5024684 >>5024672 How come?

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 13:51:42 2013 No.5024721
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>>5024684
Because I'm bitter, never had any goals in life, have no attainable dreams, and have only ever been motivated to do something productive ONCE my whole life; not only did the motivation for it die due to depression and never came back, but even if I did continue learning it, it isn't a lucrative field of study so it'd be an absolute waste and achieve absolutely nothing. I live my life without meaning, without purpose, day by day, only living for the sake of others that would grieve over me if I one day just vanished.

As far as I could remember, I never wanted to live past 25. Even as a kid, according to my journals I dug up from then, I contemplated killing myself before I reach 30. I never asked to be born, and its seems I've always hated it.

I never particularly had a "hard" life, just never enjoyed it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 13:54:42 2013 No.5024731 File: 16 KB, 500x333, 1387133667031.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5024721 Why can't I hold all this edge

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 13:56:42 2013 No.5024734 I feel like I'm fat not because of the food I eat, or the amount I eat, but rather just because I never get any exercise. One time I didn't have a car for four months and I lost twenty pounds. I was eating pizza every day.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 14:01:42 2013 No.5024748 File: 166 KB, 890x1286, 05.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5024731 I knew you'd say that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 14:06:42 2013 No.5024766 >>5024731 >Ask obviously depressed dude why he's depressed >Call him out for having a depressed rant lol 7/10

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 14:22:42 2013 No.5024819 >>5024748 Punpun is one of the best ways to understand depression IMO.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 14:23:42 2013 No.5024827 >>5024721 dude reading punpun is not going to help your depression its going to make it worse i care for a mentally ill person i know my shit

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 14:24:42 2013 No.5024830 >>5024721 >I never particularly had a "hard" life Then no one cares

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 14:28:42 2013 No.5024839

>>5024721
>Because I'm bitter, never had any goals in life, have no attainable dreams, and have only ever been motivated to do something productive ONCE my whole life; not only did the motivation for it die due to depression and never came back, but even if I did continue learning it, it isn't a lucrative field of study so it'd be an absolute waste and achieve absolutely nothing. I live my life without meaning, without purpose, day by day, only living for the sake of others that would grieve over me if I one day just vanished.
>As far as I could remember, I never wanted to live past 25. Even as a kid, according to my journals I dug up from then, I contemplated killing myself before I reach 30. I never asked to be born, and its seems I've always hated it.
>I never particularly had a "hard" life, just never enjoyed it.
daaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwww

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 14:32:36 2013 No.5024855
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>>5024827
Punpun hits way too close to home way too much for comfort. Even at his most bitter moments, I can relate to him. Already finished the series, so you're too late.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 14:36:34 2013 No.5024870

>>5023957
I think that's a large part of it. I'm fairly overweight, and got there because I got lazy and started eating out constantly (probably 5 or more nights a week on average).

I decided a couple months ago that I had had enough and was going to lose some weight, so I started cooking at home a minimum of 5 nights a week. I've lost 20 pounds in 2.5 months. I'm not even focusing all that hard on cooking healthy meals, though I do cook somewhat healthier than I usually eat out. The difference in portion size is the biggest part of it I think.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 15:12:34 2013 No.5024973
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>>5024104
>tfw you realize people who want to have sex with underage kids will be accepted long before your harem will

No, seriously, I'm a guy dating four women, all know about one another, all whom are dating one another as well. I think technically the term is polygyny but it's more fun to refer to them as my harem.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 15:43:54 2013 No.5025025

It's not a misconception, every fat person either eats in excess or has at least one disgusting eating habit. Being in college and watching people at the cafeteria, I have observed:

>Fat chick putting honey on pizza
>Two of my fat friends unfold ketchup cups to make them hold 3 times as much
>One fat friend eats the cheese and toppings off pizza but leaves the bread
>Another always gets two large helpings of fries
>Another eats hamburgers with eggs on them

And these people all tell me I'm skinny because of my genes, no it's because I eat like a human and not a pig.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 15:59:54 2013 No.5025044

I have an anecdote to share about this. I am recently going to chef school and one of my room mates (also a chef school student) is very obese. I on the other hand am skinny as fuck. Now I'm in the same group as her meaning I have every class that she has so I basically am around her all day and can see her habits. Surprisingly, she eats far less than me and a lot healthier (more fruits and vegetables) I on the other hand drink creme anglaise in my milk and cook with tones of butter... So I have come to realize how being obese is not always a matter of lifestyle choice... It has to do with metabolism

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 16:07:55 2013 No.5025053 It's how much and a complete lack of exercise. I eat like shit, but I generally eat small portions and I'm also constantly physically active. Genetics probably has something to do with it too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 16:09:54 2013 No.5025059 >>5025025 Most of these habits are "weird" at best. To call them "disgusting" is pushing it. They just sound like they need to learn what portion control is.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 16:23:12 2013 No.5025085

>>5025044

>>not always a matter of lifestyle choice... It has to do with metabolism

This is incorrect. Different people do have different metabolisms, but the difference isn't very much--certainly not enough to explain the difference between "obese" and "skinny".

check here: there are many good studies cited at the end of this article if you want to read the science behind it:
http://examine.com/faq/does-metabolism-vary-between-two-people.html

You aren't watching your roomate 24-7. You might see her a large portion of the day, but you aren't omniscient. She may well be eating much more than you, just when you aren't watching. It's also possible that she is obese from past habits, has changed those now that she's in chef's school, and is currently still fat, but is on a losing trend.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 16:51:14 2013 No.5025178

>>5024721
>I live my life without meaning, without purpose
Me, too. I find it a relief not bothering about meaning or purpose, and it allows me to really enjoy my life. Because nothing matters why not enjoy it? That seems to be the part you're missing. You just sound gloomy. I'd recommend getting a blowjob, but you've probably already alienated anyone who would be willing to do that for you. Shame, too, because you sound like you really could use one.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 16:58:14 2013 No.5025189
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>Alana “Honey Boo Boo” Thompson and her family definitely have a generous spirit. The family seen on TLC’s Here Comes Honey Boo Boo has been volunteering almost every night outside their home with a big Christmas display and a special Santa Claus display. Asking for gifts, donations and taking pictures with the fans the family has started a Christmas drive to get presents for those less fortunate in the community. While the display outside is ongoing, fans have been sending in cash and gifts too.

>On Saturday night the family announced that they have bought $3,200 worth of toys for the kids in the community.

Daily reminder that these people are better humans than you.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:01:14 2013 No.5025199

Shit food has less fiber, less fiber means you get hungry more fast and want more of that shit food.
Thus the cycle begins.
Our brains are also addicted to suger, it's like crack to them and the easier the source, the more we crave it, surprisingly enough, shit food has the sugars in the simplest forms they come so our brains get happier faster.
Then there's the lack of some nutrients, when a food you eat on regular basis is missing nutrients that your body desperately needs, it gets hungrier faster, because it wants those nutrients in as soon as possible, however what people don't realize is, that the shit food they are eating don't have those nutrients and keep eating the shit and getting more hungrier.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:02:15 2013 No.5025202

>>5023957

>do all fat people get fat just because they eat shit food? i find it hard to believe that you can get fat from eat well prepared meals,

You make it sound like well prepared meals can't also constitute as shit food. Most of /ck/ will make something involving beef and bacon and cheese and white bread, but because they arrange it in a way that looks fancy, they feel proud of what they did and pretend it's better for them than McDonalds when in reality it's as bad or worse.

If your food is actually good for you, it is very hard to get fat eating it. If you eat junk food, whether it's processed or home-made junk food, you can get fat easily. Hell, some people on this board would claim if Honey Boo Boo's mom made her own ketchup, made her own noodles, and milked her own cow and churned it into fresh butter herself, that this would suddenly make sketti a healthy meal because it's "homemade, not that processed shit"

I blame Jamie Oliver.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:03:14 2013 No.5025205 >>5025202 But that actually would make it healthier and tastier. It still wouldn't be health food but don't act like it wouldn't make a noticeable difference.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:04:14 2013 No.5025206 >>5025189 Why, because they got rich by showing off their stupidity?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:04:14 2013 No.5025207 >>5025205 >don't act like it wouldn't make a noticeable difference. It wouldn't

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:05:14 2013 No.5025209 >>5025205 Beautiful delicious homemade food =/= healthy Not remotely.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:06:14 2013 No.5025210

>>5025206
Because they used their 15 minutes of fame (i.e. being laughed at by people who are probably worse than they are) to do some good. How many people who post on 4chan would?
Also her mom put all the proceeds from the show toward a college fund for her.
They aren't shining examples of cultured Americans but they at least have a value system, something I can't say for most middle class Americans.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:07:02 2013 No.5025213 >>5025207 The lack of preservatives in the ingredients, the removal of excessive sugar from the ketchup and the absence of hormones in the cows milk would indeed make a difference.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:07:02 2013 No.5025214

>>5025210
>Because they used their 15 minutes of fame (i.e. being laughed at by people who are probably worse than they are) to do some good. How many people who post on 4chan would?

If I got a TV show to show everyone how I lived and made a lot of money out of it, sure I'd help the 'community'. If you don't the media will turn its back on you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:07:02 2013 No.5025215 I think people get fat because they eat condiments on everything.

iopq !!E0l3lwK67+/ Sun Dec 15 17:07:14 2013 No.5025212

>>5024370
this is wrong

let me rank the foods you mentioned and how full they'll make you on a calorie per calorie basis:

"fatty processed meat" > "fatty processed cheese" = beans > everything else

meat will leave you fuller for the same amount of calories than brown rice because it has more protein, protein is the most filling macro per calorie

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:09:00 2013 No.5025222 >>5025213 We're talking ketchup, pasta, and butter. The only difference between homemade and store-bought is there MIGHT be high-fructose corn syrup in the ketchup rather than sugar

>>	iopq !!E0l3lwK67+/ Sun Dec 15 17:11:01 2013 No.5025225 >>5025213 preservatives don't make you fat and who's not to say that if you made it home-made you wouldn't put the same amount of sugar in your ketchup?

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:23:46 2013 No.5025245

>>5024443
>I don't look at the calories I put in
1300-1700 calories depending on toppings and if you get soda or not. If you're a man of average weight/height in his 20s, then you need at least 2100 calories just to maintain your weight assuming you do nothing but wake up and sit back down to work. You're underestimating how a fat person eats

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:25:46 2013 No.5025248 I once saw a fat guy spooning mayonnaise onto his whopper at BK once. I almost threw up.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:27:46 2013 No.5025253

>>5024328
honestly I'm okay with this going as far as the following:
You: "Well, I'm not sure adults having sexual relationships with children is such a good idea"

Them: "We agree, but just admitting you are a pedophile and you want some help shouldn't be a social suicide, unless you actually fiddle kids (which is a fucking crime)"

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:28:46 2013 No.5025256

>>5025025
>It's not a misconception, every fat person either eats in excess or has at least one disgusting eating habit.

Except for those that have legitimate medical issues which influence how their bodies process nutrients. But go ahead, keep making ridiculous generalizations.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:29:46 2013 No.5025258 People get fat from taking in more calories than they spend.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:30:46 2013 No.5025262

>>5025025

>Two of my fat friends unfold ketchup cups to make them hold 3 times as much

They're made to do that.

>One fat friend eats the cheese and toppings off pizza but leaves the bread

S/he is consuming fewer calories and carbs.

>Another eats hamburgers with eggs on them

This is a common dish.

You sound like a dick.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:30:46 2013 No.5025265 >>5025256 Except those people are so astronomically rare we can safely rule them out. 99.9% of fat people just like to use that as an excuse so they don't look like pigs.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:32:46 2013 No.5025270 >>5024111 enjoy your forced logic-disconnect, coastie

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:33:46 2013 No.5025272 >>5025258 >I didn't read the thread at all

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:34:46 2013 No.5025275 >>5025265 >99.9% of fat people just like to use that as an excuse so they don't look like pigs. I'm sure you can prove this and everything, but it's pretty clear you just like to feel better than other people.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:36:47 2013 No.5025280 >>5025275 >but it's pretty clear you just like to feel better than other people. Not that guy, but there are many moral and pragmatic reasons to look down on obese people.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:37:47 2013 No.5025282

>>5025275
>I'm sure you can prove this and everything, but it's pretty clear you just like to feel better than other people.

>My body somehow gains weight despite me claiming to eat fewer calories than my body requires to maintain its current size. My metabolism is shit, thats why I can't lose weight!

I have no issue with fat people. I just don't like the ones that claim they can't lose weight because their body somehow metabolizes differently than the rest of humanity.

Keep projecting though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:42:46 2013 No.5025290 >>5025280 >pragmatic reasons to look down on obese people >this is what shitty people actually believe

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:45:34 2013 No.5025301

>>5025282
>I just don't like the ones that claim they can't lose weight because their body somehow metabolizes differently than the rest of humanity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothyroidism

>Hypothyroidism /ˌhaJpɵˈθaJərɔJdJzəm/ is a common endocrine disorder in which the thyroid gland produces inadequate quantities of the thyroid hormones thyroxine (T4) and triiodothyronine (T3).

>Appearance: thin, brittle fingernails; dry, itchy skin; weight gain, swollen eyelids, myxedema, hair loss,[8] thinning of the outer third of the eyebrow, dry 'puffy' facial skin, puffy face, hands and feet, enlarged tongue[7]

>common
>weight gain

Keep denying facts though. Wouldn't want to challenge your asshole-ish world view.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:48:32 2013 No.5025312

I have sympathy for fat people, especially people who are older in age.

It is easy to compare an overweight person to a drug addict, but any drug addict has the ability to quit cold turkey. A food addict has to face his addiction three times every day, at social and family events, out in public, etc. If it was possible to just quit food all together, i'm sure there would be a lot more skinny people in the world.

What I DON'T have sympathy for are landwhales.When you physically impair yourself to the point where the act of walking becomes a challenge for you, you are far gone past the warning signs given to you. It just reeks of pure gluttony and idiocy. Even worse are the fucking morons who enable this type of behavior. Makes me sick.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:50:32 2013 No.5025315

>>5025290
Obese people are a net loss to society as a result of the medical burden they represent. They eat more, which has obvious ecological implications.

In short, if every ate and acted like obese people we would need far more food, cleared land for agriculture, higher taxes, etc.

I'm not going to get into the immorality of gluttony and sloth. It's disgusting. All animals have the intuitive knowledge to take care of themselves, yet obese people do not. And their hygiene? Dear god.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:51:32 2013 No.5025318 >>5025301 Yes, because the majority of obese people are hypothyroid.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:51:32 2013 No.5025319

fat people are just skinny people with either different lifestyle or with different situations that make it harder to get exercise and healthy food

(lack of time/jobs & kids are the main reasons)

also some fat people do have metabolic issues

but don't hate either way
big girls need love too :3

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:51:32 2013 No.5025322 >>5025315 How are these pragmatic reasons to look down on someone? You do know that shaming them for being fat generally results in them becoming more fat, right?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:52:32 2013 No.5025324 >>5025318 >Backpedaling this hard That's a big jump you've made from "those people are astronomically rare" to "b-but they're not the majority!"

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:54:34 2013 No.5025328
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>>5025301

>Hurr durr I have an iodine deficiency. I have no reading comprehension but am going to keep calling you an asshole despite the fact that I'm the one being a cunt.

You do realize there is also treatment for hypothyroidism right?

I get that it makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside for white-knighting the obese but hypothyroidism does not explain why someone could look like this.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:54:34 2013 No.5025331

>>5025322
>You do know that shaming them for being fat generally results in them becoming more fat, right?
They have had the same education and have been subjected to the same public health awareness materials as everyone else.

They deserve nothing but shame. It's like people that don't take care of their children - retarded squirrels can take care of their offspring, yet some "special people" can't seem to master basic things such as how to eat properly, move around enough to keep healthy, or take care of their children.

It's pathetic. A complete disconnect with any form of reality and a complete embracing of hedonism and self-entitlement. Fuck 'em.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:54:34 2013 No.5025333

>>5025301

What you seem to be ignoring is that no medical conditon can change the laws of physics. It can adjust someone's metabolism a somewhat, but nothing on this earth can change the physics of calories in / calories out. A person with hypothyroidism has a slower metabolism which makes them more prone to weight gain. that simply means that person needs to eat less food than a person without that condition. It does not mean that said person gains weight uncontrollably. It does not change the laws of physics.

We even know this from studies. See :5025085. The vast majority of the population--including those with the "common" condition Hypothyroidism has a metabolic rate within one standard deviation of average. That's not a significant amount.

It's not an excuse either, since Hypothyroidism is easily treatable according to the very same wiki article that you linked to.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:55:34 2013 No.5025334

>>5025202
>Most of /ck/ will make something involving beef and bacon and cheese and white bread, but because they arrange it in a way that looks fancy, they feel proud of what they did and pretend it's better for them than McDonalds when in reality it's as bad or worse.
More fattening, more calories but probably less preservatives, fillers and other stray nasties.

But that's an important point: home cooking is generally healthier than restaurant cooking and convenience foods. But making a burger at home is not home cooking; it's making fast food at home. I know some here will argue that, but I stand by it. My point is people don't even know what home cooking is anymore. Making a pot of split pea soup and baking a loaf of bread is home cooking. Cooking at home is probably healthier if you're actually making home cooking dishes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:55:34 2013 No.5025335 >>5025301 And that automatically means weight gain to the level of being uncontrollably obese?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:55:34 2013 No.5025336 >>5025324 Different person. But if you are using an uncommon medical condition to explain obesity there is obviously something wrong with your ability to form logical and cohesive arguments.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:56:32 2013 No.5025338

>>5025331
>They have had the same education and have been subjected to the same public health awareness materials as everyone else.
>They deserve nothing but shame.

So just to be clear, you're denying the fact that -- as you stated earlier -- it is pragmatic to shame them?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:56:32 2013 No.5025339 >>5025322 Being fat is decision. Being fat is also unappealing and makes you less attractive. Face the fucking facts and hit the gym or stop whining.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:58:32 2013 No.5025347

>>5025336

But it is a common medical condition, as mentioned earlier. Additionally, it's only one example of multiple medical issues that cause weight gain.

At any rate, I don't have the time or desire to respond to everyone so I'm going to go do something else. Keep trying to cling to your shitty prejudices though. Wouldn't want to have to confront the fact that you're all no better than anyone else~~

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:59:32 2013 No.5025349

>>5025312
>drug addict has the ability to quit cold turkey

A person who overeats has the exact same ability.

>>A food addict has to face his addiction three times every day

A drug addict has to face their addiction constantly. In fact, a drug addtict has physical symptoms if they don't get their fix. For example, did you know that the term "cold turkey" that you used refers to an actual physical symptom of opiate addiction? A drug addict who doesn't get their fix has uncontrollable shivering and pimply skin. That's where the term "quitting cold turkey" comes from! Likewise, the term "kicking the habit"--going through the same withdrawal process causes uncontrollable leg spasms. Those terms aren't just hyperbole, that's actually what happens to a drug addict trying to quit. No fatty, no matter how large, has those kind of things to face when they don't get their cookies. A drug addict does.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 18:00:32 2013 No.5025353 >>5025349 Can we just accept they're both a shitty situation without this being a pissing contest?

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 18:00:32 2013 No.5025355

>>5025339
>Being fat is decision.
Not the Anon you're replying to, but being fat is quickly becoming the default. If you lead a "normal" life and eat "normal" food in America you will get fat. If you don't want to be fat you have to actively step outside of the norm.

That's the pathetic state of it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 18:00:32 2013 No.5025357 >>5025347 >I don't want to face the facts so I'll just leave to some hugbox where my feelings don't get hurt Okay, please stay in tumblr next time and don't come here with your stupid shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 18:01:33 2013 No.5025360 File: 150 KB, 595x631, blownthefuckout.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5025347 >Gets fucking told >Hurr I don't have time to argue with you, I'm going to leave but pretend its not because I'm fucking wrong you're all assholes.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 18:02:33 2013 No.5025363

>>5025355
Then you have to be above the status quo and pass this on to your children.

Lots of people are fat, don't read, love NASCAR and reality television, don't go outside or exercise, etc. Doesn't mean you have to be like that.

When I see these types of people I become even more motivated and think about how much better off I am.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 18:02:33 2013 No.5025364

>>5025347
>Additionally, it's only one example of multiple medical issues that cause weight gain.
It still takes tremendous lack of self discipline and eating shitton to actually become overweight or obese if you have one of these medical conditions, if you just straight up don't exercise, well no fucking shit you are going to be fat after a while.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 18:05:32 2013 No.5025370 >>5025353 Absolutely they both suck. But someone who overeats does not have to face debilitating physical symptoms when they are trying to quit. It's silly to compare the two.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 18:05:32 2013 No.5025372 >>5023957 fatties are fat because its genetics and they cant help it. genetics dictate that if you eat all day and the only exercise you ever do is to scratch your butt or stir some food then yeah you will get fat. its genetics

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 18:08:32 2013 No.5025382

>>5025372
No man you got it all wrong, it's medical condition when you can't be assed to do something instead of eating all day and there is nothing you can do and people should feel sorry for you and accept you as the beautiful fat person that you are.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 18:09:32 2013 No.5025386 File: 450 KB, 500x363, shush.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5025382 >tfw real women have curves >tfw only dogs like bones

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 18:10:32 2013 No.5025387 File: 78 KB, 479x680, 1372033089744.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5025386 CurveS, not one big curve.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 18:11:32 2013 No.5025391

>>5025349
You're a fucking moron. Do you think overweight people do not suffer withdrawal as well? When you're eating a particularly indulgent food your brain releases the same exact chemicals as it would during drug use. The "withdrawal" doesn't have to stem from the drug itself, but your body being used to something, it could be anything, which it is then cut off from.

My point about quitting cold turkey was not to trivialize the concept of losing an addiction. It was essentially to point out how somebody could physically live the rest of their lives without the drug, while a food addict requires his drug to survive. Can you imagine if a smoker or a heroin addict had to do just a tiny fraction of what they usually intake per day? Can you imagine how hard that would be?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 18:11:32 2013 No.5025393 >>5025387 >>5025387 You just can't handle REAL woman honey.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 18:19:32 2013 No.5025410

>>5025391
As someone who has beaten alcoholism and can now drink reasonably, I can say that it just takes discipline and will of iron.
And reading that quitting eating ton of food is as bad as quitting drugs or alcohol cold turkey was the most insulting thing I have read all week.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 18:24:35 2013 No.5025424

>>5025410
Get mad at science, not me. Whether you're shooting a needle or stuffing your face with salts and fats, your brain is releasing dopamine either way. An addiction is a fucking addiction.

Like I said, I am not defending these people, I am saying I am sympathizing with them. Like you, there are many people who have lost weight and can eat responsibly. I'm not saying it is impossible or that these fatties aren't doing anything wrong with their awful diets, but I can certainly see why it would be hard.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 18:28:35 2013 No.5025430

>>5025391
>>Do you think overweight people do not suffer withdrawal as well?

You seem to be colluding physical addition with mental addiction.

Yes, an overweight person suffers psychological symptoms trying to quit their addiction--as does any addiction: overeating, compulsive gambling, smoking, drugs, sex, shopping, internet, etc. All "addictions" affect the brain in a similar way, as you mentioned, and ANY addict has to face that when they are trying to quit, whether that be food or crack.

However in ADDITION to that, users of many drugs also suffer physical symptoms, like the aforementioned "cold turkey" and "kicking the habit". Go google an article on heroin withdrawal and try and tell me if a fat person has to deal with those problems when they change their diet.

>>. It was essentially to point out how somebody could physically live the rest of their lives without the drug, while a food addict requires his drug to survive

Sorry, I may have misunderstood you then, that point was not clear from your previous post. I thought you were saying that it's harder for an over-eater to control their addiction than a drug addict, which I disagree with because a drug addict has physical symptoms whereas an over-eater does not.

I get your point now, and yeah, that would be hard. Though I imagine that they might deal with it through replacement, the same way that a drug addict might. Some drug addicts quit by replacing their drug with something different. Perhaps an over-eater could swear off their food of choice and replace it with a different food? That way they are "living the rest of their lives without the drug"? In other words, if someone overeats cookies, could they not swear off cookies but eat a different food instead? The same way an alcoholic cannot touch alcohol but might drink soda water in a restaurant instead of wine or beer?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 18:30:36 2013 No.5025433 >>5025424 Yes, all addictions involve dopamine. Gambling, shopping, internet, food, drugs, alcohol, whatever. But only drug and alcohol addictions involve vomiting, seizures, "cold turkey" skin, delirium tremens, etc, etc, etc.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 18:39:36 2013 No.5025460 >>5025386 woof woof woof mother fuckin woof plus two more barks and a growl

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 18:52:21 2013 No.5025502 >>5025387 u r gay or sumthin cus u cant handl a rrel woman lik me go bakc 2 ur skinny anrexic slut u gyshitlord

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 18:59:21 2013 No.5025518 >>5025025 What's weird about burgers with eggs on them?.. and did you seriously not realize that paper ketchup cups are designed for the specific purpose of being unfolded? lol

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 19:01:21 2013 No.5025526 >>5025424 enjoying life releases dopamine. you better have a shitty life or everybody will call you an addict.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 19:06:21 2013 No.5025542 >>5025518 >>designed for the specific purpose of being unfolded? They're not. they're designed to be made from one piece of cardstock, that way there is no seam to seal.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 19:09:21 2013 No.5025550 >>5025502 fuggin crush u skin enablers gt rek3d

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 19:11:22 2013 No.5025556 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dThOlMmO4I8 why.jpg

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 19:13:21 2013 No.5025559 >>5025518 The mindset needed to decide that it would be a good idea to put an egg on a burger is something like "I am a huge fatass, and would like to be more of a huge fatass. What is the fastest way that I can achieve this?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 19:21:21 2013 No.5025592 File: 30 KB, 179x189, pleasesendhelpohmygod.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5025556 >all >of >that >butter

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 19:22:22 2013 No.5025594 >>5025559 or maybe eggs on burgers just taste good and its not a huge fucking deal because its just 1 egg? seriously, alot of ground burger meat is made with eggs in it anyways

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 19:28:21 2013 No.5025608 >>5025594 Lots of foods that are bad for you, taste good. That is how fatasses get fat. But whatever, you'll understand when you step on the scale and it breaks. Fatty.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 19:36:22 2013 No.5025616

>>5025608
eating burgers everyday is bad.

having a burger with a fried egg on it once in awhile is not the end of the world

god damn it i swear to god people like you should be burned at the no fun allowed stake. yes, let us all eat gruel everyday, for the day we eat one burger we will all balloon to gigantic proportions. choke on a dick.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 19:43:21 2013 No.5025632 >>5025616 why don't you go ahead and add a pound of bacon to your burger. you've already crossed the line you fucking fatass

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 19:54:21 2013 No.5025675

>>5025608
>Lots of foods that are bad for you, taste good.
This is so fucking stupid. Food is not bad for you. Bad patterns of eating are bad for you. If you eat a reasonable diet most of the time you can have a fucking burger with an egg on it and be fine. It only becomes unhealthy if you think it's an everyday food and not a once in a while food.

Fucking bacon isn't even unhealthy, but hurr durr I luv me sum bacon erry day probably is.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 19:58:22 2013 No.5025695 File: 1.48 MB, 230x172, 1387153372944.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5025675 I understand where you are coming from.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 20:02:21 2013 No.5025717

>>5025632
lets compare a pound of bacon calories to the calories of one single fried egg shall we?

>There are 2077 calories in 1 pound of Bacon (Cured).
>There are 74 calories in 1 large Egg (Whole).

Want to try again and say why someone is a fucking fatass if they choose to once in a while (meaning 3 weeks to a month) eat a burger with 1 egg on it.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 20:03:21 2013 No.5025724

>>5025632
Trolling cunt.

Processed foods will certainly aid weight gain better than most foods because they tend to have more fate and sugar.
I bet if you only ate canned beans instead of dried beans you would gain much more weight over time.
I have a bit of a gut from all of the food I cook and the unhealthy food I tend to eat at work. There are plenty of foods that contain higher levels of fat and sugar than processed foods, but I think the trick is that these are more obvious.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 20:10:21 2013 No.5025755

>>5025675
unhealthy food =/= being unhealthy
it is unhealthy food. It doesn't automatically mean people that consume it are unhealthy, but it's the general rule. Try exercising your common sense and rational thought, it works wonders when attempting to come down to conclusions

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 20:11:21 2013 No.5025759 >>5025724 >being this much of a retard Yeah buddy, sugar and fat are the only fattening elements of food.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 20:14:21 2013 No.5025768

>>5025755
i understand if you only eat foods that taste terrible but are 100% good for your body like kale or whatever else. However restaurants were made so people can enjoy food that tastes good, and yes it may not be healthy, but we only have so long on earth. We should (once in awhile, before you call me a fucking fatass again) exercise our taste buds and enjoy good tasting food. Just my humble opinion. Don't eat burgers everyday, dont eat lasagna everyday, but eating just kale and whatever else everyday no exceptions is gulag tier living in my opinion. But if a healthy body is that important to you, do it.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 20:14:21 2013 No.5025772

>>5025212
500 kcals in brown rice is going to be an assload of rice; all dat fiber is going to fill up yer stomach.
500 kcals in shitty Walmart tier deli meat isn't going to last very long due to most of the cals coming from fucking fat.
Also, fuck off back to fit where you can continue making no gains.
Faggot.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 20:17:13 2013 No.5025778

>>5025768
I'm not him, but it's more than evident to me you are indeed a fat ass. But I think it's cute how you try to come down to a rational explanation that's akin to a rather dull hedonist mindset of your shitty health.

Not that I care, of course about your particular habits. It's not about eating healthy food anyways, it's mostly about exercising and as you said, eating it now and again. But claiming anything that isn't your fatty way of life is gulag tier is pretty laughable.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 20:19:13 2013 No.5025781 >>5025772 >fiber fattens you up >cals come from fat Please, never pretend to know what you're talking about ever again. Just continue to eat McDonalds, ok?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 20:26:14 2013 No.5025800 >>5025759 They are the most fattening elements, almost all of the most calories dense foods are high in fat.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 20:31:13 2013 No.5025812

>>5025778
you dont know anything about me, so you think by saying that since i like eating a burger once a month i am about to die. Trolls, vegans, theyre all the same now.

But fine, enjoy your shitty bland tastless food everyday and deprive your body of any taste enjoyment it might have. even if it was just one time. What is this willy wonka's factory where you become a gigantic blueberry if you eat a french fry?

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 20:32:13 2013 No.5025814

>>5025206
Actually even before the tv shows, they would always do anything they could to help their community. Food drives, toy drives, June teaching poor families how to save money to buy food when they do have money. Donating clothes, you name it these people probably have done it for their little town.

Now they just have more money to help people

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 20:33:13 2013 No.5025816 >>5025214 this see >>5025814

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 20:52:13 2013 No.5025854

You can thank society for that.

Healthy foods cost more than the processed junk. I can get a few coupons and walk out with free ramen, free cookies, free chips. There are rarely any deals like that on fresh fruits and vegetables. And the poorest areas are often "food deserts", where no actual grocery store exists. You just have convenience stores selling more processed junk that can be bought with food stamps. They don't have access to healthy foods.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 21:10:30 2013 No.5025906

>>5025755
>it is unhealthy food.
nope.avi
No food is unhealthy. Poison is unhealthy. Germs are unhealthy. Foie gras is not. Sugar and fat are not. What is unhealthy is a pattern of eating sometimes foods every day. There's nothing unhealthy about eating a sometimes food once in a while. That doesn't make it an unhealthy food.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 21:22:30 2013 No.5025942

>>5025854

I disagree. Ignoring coupons for a moment, it is much cheaper to buy raw ingredients and cook for yourself than it is to buy prepacked foods or to eat out. For example, today I cooked a big pot of beef stew that will be my and my housemates lunches for the next week. Despite my splurging on a bottle of wine for the stew instead of using only stock, it cost less than $3 per serving. None of what I bought was on sale, and I even added leeks, a relatively expensive vegetable in my area. I couldn't eat fast food for that cheap. If I left out the wine, used potatoes instead of leeks and used a larger ratio of veggies to meat it could easily be down to $2 or less. I baked two pizzas for dinner with a premium brand of pepperoni and fresh mozzarella and that only cost $8 for the two pizzas-- each about the size of the average delivery "large". Yesterday I roasted two chickens and some potatoes for dinner. Total cost, $11. I fed five people and I still have half a chicken left over. I'm going to make chicken soup from the skeletons & the remaining meat for dinner tomorrow. Total cost? About $1.50 for a few carrots and an onion to put in the soup. The meat and stock is free leftovers from yesterday's roast You don't even need a coupon on fresh veggies, they're naturally quite cheap if you buy what's in season. The downside is that it takes effort to cook. It takes no effort at all to order a bunch of fast food, despite its higher price.

>>And the poorest areas are often "food deserts", where no actual grocery store exists

Sadly, this is true. Though at least part of the time the local society only has itself to blame. I can recall a few news headlines where grocery stores in inner city areas went out of business because of excess shoplifting. the articles I saw were in NYC and Chicago. I just googled it, and apparently it's happening in the UK as well:
http://www.wearebarnsley.com/news/article/3494/shoplifting-could-force-supermarkets-closure

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 21:38:30 2013 No.5025972

>>5025556
I've seen videos of men's heads being split open, pictures of people's body parts being blown straight off, decapitations, scatological horrors, some of the most horrible shit to occur on this blue Earth, all without incurring even the slightest revulsion in my mind.

And yet here I am after watching a two minute youtube video of a fat bitch cooking and I'm overwhelmed by nothing short of abject horror. After it ended I was simply sitting there for a minute or two, a deep weight in my gut, feeling as though I would expel vomit at any moment.

Is this what PTSD feels like? I can still see
it so clearly in my mind. That fucking wad of butter engorging that half a cup of rice. I want to get out. I want it to end.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 21:39:30 2013 No.5025974 >>5025906 >No food is unhealthy. Full retard.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 21:42:30 2013 No.5025984

>>5025972

I feel you bro. I once had a job archiving photographs at a hospital. You can imagine what that entailed: parasites of all sorts, horrible infections and sores. cancerous growths. all sorts of things that don't belong in the human anus. or urethra. or vagina. I could go on and on.

And I don't have the balls to even start to watch that video.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 21:43:30 2013 No.5025990 >>5025974 missing the point. A diet as a whole is healthy or unhealthy. A specific food is neither, unless in context of the whole diet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 21:45:30 2013 No.5025995 >>5025906 >guys look how free i am >i like clapping after movies >one of my favorite hobbies is not exercising I can tell that you suffered from an unhealthy punch to the head in your infancy. Or maybe it's in your genes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 21:47:31 2013 No.5026000 >>5025995 cool story bro. I like trolling too.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 21:48:31 2013 No.5026001

>>5023957
You get fat from eating more energy than your body burns. Has nothing to do with what kind of food you were eating- if it did, people would have not been fat before food processing was around, yet there were fat people then.

The good side of healthier foods is that you become more full off of less food. Smaller portions are less overall calories consumed, and therefore helps you stay at maintenance for body energy or at a deficit.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 22:07:30 2013 No.5026064

>>5025974
>>5025995
Dunno. I'm middle aged and slim. I work out and eat mostly vegetables. I have no illusions about what healthy eating is. It's a pattern that has kept me looking good and means I don't have to take the bullshit medications so many of my peers take.

But if I want a sausage or some bacon I fucking have some. Because that isn't unhealthy in my pattern of eating. Which would be having that kind of stuff once in a while.

Food is good. Labeling it healthy or unhealthy is silly. Getting into a sane pattern of eating is smart. See the difference?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 22:10:30 2013 No.5026075 >>5025781 Fiber fills up your stomach longer, due to the fact that it passes through intact. Fat has more kcals per gram than protein or carbs. >iopq, pls.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 22:16:34 2013 No.5026088 >>5026064 >Labelling acid healthy or unhealthy is silly. Getting into a sane pattern of consuming it is smart. See the difference?

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 22:17:33 2013 No.5026093

>>5026075
>Fiber fills up your stomach longer,
which is completely irrelevant if you simply control your portions like a normal human being.

>>Fat has more kcals per gram than protein or carbs.
Yes. But that doesn't mean it makes you fat. Your total consumption determines that. It simply means you cannot eat as much fat as you can other foods. That doesn't mean you cannot eat fat at all, or that fat is bad.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 22:17:34 2013 No.5026091 >>5026075 Yeah, and water fills up your stomach too. It doesn't make you fatter. How fucking retarded are you?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 22:23:33 2013 No.5026110 >>5026088 He already said that poisons and bacteria are unhealthy. We are obviously talking about food here, sir aspie.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 22:25:33 2013 No.5026116 File: 185 KB, 890x1286, 08.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5025178 Oyasumi Punpun once again being pretty reflective here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 22:29:34 2013 No.5026128 >>5023957 You do use ketchup as a dip

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 22:33:33 2013 No.5026142 >>5026110 >We are obviously talking about food here No fucking shit Sherlock. The same logic applies. Unhealthy food is unhealthy. Being a healthy person is unrelated. Try getting coming back at a response when you stop being so fucking dumb.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 22:36:33 2013 No.5026157 >>5024451 >Depends on metabolism Haha no. Metabolism only varies person to person by about 400 at most, which is fuck all.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 22:46:33 2013 No.5026203
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>>5025256
Actually there are no medical conditions that cause someone to not be able to lose weight. They do not exist outside of genetic disorders that also cause mental retardation.
But go ahead, keep making ridiculous excuses.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 22:58:33 2013 No.5026237

>>5026142
>Unhealthy food is unhealthy

The problem is that it's not that simple.

If I've been eating nothing but spinach for a week then more spinach is pretty damn unhealthy since it is lacking many nutrients that I now require (fat, protein, B-12, D) and it even puts me at risk for iron poisoning due to overconsumption. In that situation a hamburger would be a good thing for me to eat. On the other hand, if I've been eating french fries for a week it's probably the healthiest thing in the world for me to be eating.

Foods are neither good nor bad. Each contains a variety of nutrients which ought to be consumed in the proper amounts. Deficiency in those things is bad, as is over-consumption. Therefore it is impossible to consider any of them to be healthy or unhealthy without taking into account the diet as a whole.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 23:10:33 2013 No.5026258 >>5026237 Bullshit. I ate spinach for lunch three straight days and on the third evening I was pissing green out of my ass like four times an our.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 23:19:33 2013 No.5026282

>>5026258

What exactly are you calling bullshit about? I never said that I DID eat spinach for a week straight, I was making AN example of one of the potential issues with such a thing.

Also, just because you shat your guts out doesn't mean that is a universal truth for everyone. I am allergic to shellfish. Just because they make me violently ill doesn't mean that applies to everyone.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 04:32:52 2013 No.5026841 >>5025990 >eating spoonfuls of cane sugar is not unhealthy >drinking crisco is not unhealthy

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 04:58:52 2013 No.5026866 >>5026841 If you did either of those like, once... or even once a month, there probably wouldn't be any negative side effects to it at all. Unless you're talking about large quantities of it, which I think is the whole point of the argument...

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 05:15:15 2013 No.5026887

Supposedly rats that are fed diets with HFCS get fatter than those that are fed diets with sugar. I think it has to do with how the liver processes HFCS. Also I think the per capita consumption of HFCS is like 654654687 times more in America than anywhere else.

http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S26/91/22K07/
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/05/09/high-fructose-corn-syrup-debate-gets-sticky/

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 05:17:12 2013 No.5026888 >>5023961 >It's not about the kind of food. It's the portions. it's a bit of the kind of food, since deficiencies can slow your metabolism or increase water retention. You can still take supplements on a diet of mars bars though

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 05:23:12 2013 No.5026893

Some are fat because of hormones and other heath related problem. But i'm pretty sure most of them are fat because the eat like 2 time the recommended calories.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_food_energy_intake

You can't eat 3.7 k calories per day and be fit unless you do sport very ofter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 05:23:12 2013 No.5026895 >>5025410 props to you and I'm with you. But stop letting yourself feel insulted on the internet

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 05:31:12 2013 No.5026906

>>5026893
>Some are fat because of hormones and other heath related problem
No, they have altered dietary requirements because of hormones and other health related problems.
They're fat because they use a cookie-cutter diet instead of one tailored to their needs

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 05:35:12 2013 No.5026908 >>5024137 Adult faggots who are too retarded and beta to get anyone of their own age. The only pro-pedo degenerates have been men. Absolutely embarrassing.

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 05:39:17 2013 No.5026910

>>5024194
Goddamn I want some sour patch kids right now.

yes, even total fatasses can lose all the weight they want. This "acceptance" thing is appaling that its gone this far. "ah need uh gastric bypass or ah wont be able ta lose all dis weight, excuse me while I eat 2 fucking pizzas and a diet coke for lunch." Its so sad gastric surgery/lapbands are even a fucking thing. If these disgusting pigs had a shred of self control they could just ask a doctor "How much food would I be able to eat without getting sick If I had this surgery?" and then just fucking only eat that much. Youd have the same results as getting the surgery but it didnt cost you any money and you didnt have to get cut open. It takes getting cut open, literally risking an internal infection to just eat less. Just die already.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 05:42:12 2013 No.5026912 >this whole black hate thing is horrible >this religous hate stuff is unacceptable >gays are human too >transgenders have feelings too! ... >fatties are disgusting! Get with the times or go die in a fire please, fat and proud!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 05:44:12 2013 No.5026914 >>5026906 Some people are born with hormones problem, but as I said that's like 0.0001% of fat peoples.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 05:50:12 2013 No.5026917 File: 496 KB, 500x214, this nigga.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5026912 Good one m8

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 05:54:12 2013 No.5026920 File: 43 KB, 301x447, P030813_1539.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >zero fucks given

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 05:57:12 2013 No.5026929 >>5026912 I know this is a troll but there really are people who honestly believe fat people are oppressed and it's infuriating.

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 05:59:12 2013 No.5026933

>>5026929
People need to back the fuck off fat people.

>"Waaahhhhh! I want other people to be forced to eat what I want them to eat!"

Go cry about it. If he wanted to eat "fresh fruit and vegetables", he would. But this is America, he can do what he wants and eat what he wants. If you're disgusted, you can go fuck off

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:01:12 2013 No.5026935 >>5026933 Nobody gives a damn about fat people if they shut the fuck up and accept that they are fat because of their shitty choices and they don't whine about it or try to exploit or guilt trip other people with it,

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:02:12 2013 No.5026936 >>5026935 most of the time its people trying to make them believe their choices are shitty, and that is actually oppressing them. Just leave them the fuck alone

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:04:12 2013 No.5026940

>>5026936
But there is no denying that their choices are, in fact shit.
And the only times I've heard people telling that to fatties is when they have whined about their 'genes' or some stupid excuse like that.
>muh opression
Jesus can we just not go there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:07:12 2013 No.5026943 >>5026940 and they whine about it because someone decided to be an asshole and bring it up, again oppressing them. You don't see a fat person you've never met before just walk up to you and say >genes

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:10:13 2013 No.5026948 >>5026936 That is not oppression in any sense of the word, everyone gets judged, everyone gets insulted, everyone gets annoyed and inconvenienced, you whiny fucking children. If you want "thin privilege" so badly, lose weight. Anyone can do it.

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:11:13 2013 No.5026950

>>5026841
See what you are doing there? You are listing portions to make it bad for you. Cane suger is fine, it wont hurt you. Cooking with crisco is fine, it wont hurt you. Who the fuck said anything about eating crisco by the spoonful?
It does grind my gears when I hear someone say "healthy" or "unhealthy" food. Its fucking pointless. and the worst..."superfood!" I dont hold back, ill tell someone to their face their retared for saying that one.
Too much of anything is bad. It also doesnt hurt you to eat fat and sugar, just not too much.
That being said, an easy way to force yourself to have a better diet (in the us) is to cut out hfcs and fast food entirely. Its not that fast food magically makes you fat and unhealthy, but it makes you cook things at home more and at least think about what youre eating. Same with no hfcs, you are forced to select food carefully and wind up consuming less calories. I just recently broke my no hfcs rule. I was hung over yesterday and really wanted a ginger ale and all I could get was a jew syurp one. I highly suggest doing it though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:11:13 2013 No.5026952 >>5026948 no, just stop bitching against our fat privilege.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:12:12 2013 No.5026953 >>5026943 >oppressing please stop

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:13:12 2013 No.5026954 being large and happy is just the way the world works today. I wish both sides would just stop bitching about it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:23:33 2013 No.5026963 ITT: bro science retards >there are people that actually believe "some types of food" makes them fat

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:24:33 2013 No.5026964 >>5026943 Tons of people go on about 'booho I'm so fat because GENES' all the fucking time. And stop with this 'oppressing' bullshit already, no one is buying it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:25:32 2013 No.5026967 >>5026959 >>5026963 There are types of food that more likely will make you fat, see: >>5025199 That's all straight up everyday regular science.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:26:32 2013 No.5026968 >>5026964 nobody EVER just stands on a soapbox and says that. They got goaded into it. If someone comes at them and says "try eating more vegetables" or some shit without being asked about it, you are harrassing them and need to back the fuck off

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:34:32 2013 No.5026974

>>5026968
No one has implied here at any point people just yell at each other randomly on the streets or something. Your posts are so stupid it hurts to read them.
Most fat people I know are complaining about how they are fat all the time when doing something even slightly physically demanding and the whole point is that no matter when or why they do it, they are being obnoxious cunts, because it's their own goddamn choice to be fat shits.
If I have alcoholic friend and he whines to me about how his life is so hard because he is alcoholic, I suggest him to stop drinking, but apparently I'm FILTHY OPPRESSOR when I suggest fatties to exercise or eat less when they cry about their weight.

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:35:32 2013 No.5026977

>>5026967
No, you stupid and ignorant monkey.
I mean, god, do you even read? The jump you took between 2 statements is incredible.
Calories are just calories. If some foods doesn't fullfil you (or make you hungry sooner) as much as others and you end up eating more, it's your fault for overconsuming calories. That "type of food" doesn't make you fat. It's you being a fatpunk and not understanding the situation.

I suggest everyone to read /fit/ sticky.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:37:32 2013 No.5026979 >>5026977 >/fit/ not even once. But I should of expected you were a retard when I saw that you actually believe calories are real

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:38:32 2013 No.5026981

>>5026977
Well true enough, but as I said, eating certain foods will more likely make you fat because you will be way hungrier all the damn time.
When you could be eating the same calories while feeling like you aren't hungry longer, it keeps you from eating too much.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:38:33 2013 No.5026982 >>5026974 then find another friend. Don't criticize him

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:39:33 2013 No.5026983 >>5026979 xDDDDDDDDDD you almost got me 1/10 for making me reply

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:39:33 2013 No.5026984 File: 1.26 MB, 190x170, what in the fuck.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5026979 >you actually believe calories are real

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:41:32 2013 No.5026988

>>5026982
>Don't criticize him
Right, so being good friend is not allowed anymore because someone might get upset.
And the point was, when fatties whine about being fat, I have every right to tell them to stop whining or lose weight because it's their own damn choice to be fat.

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:42:32 2013 No.5026991

>>5026984
>>5026979

calories are a creation of, well /pol/ should generally stay in /pol/, but the jews to shill out the diet market the same time that they are in control of nearly the entire food market. It's the perfect setup. Nearly everything we know about nutrients is a lie

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:43:32 2013 No.5026996 >>5026988 you're not being a good friend by giving them an ultimatum. Just hear them and let them be unless they ask for your advice.

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:47:37 2013 No.5027000
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>>5026991
The western take on food in general is kinda skewed but goddamn you have some issues.
You are aware calories just count the amount of energy on the food right? And that you could use joules to count that energy as well if you wanted right? You could count the calories of the sun if you wanted, it's not some made up term, it's actual legit scientific shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:48:37 2013 No.5027001 >>5026996 You mean im not the only polack here? Ive never heard them talking about how calories a creation of the jew. Are you sure about this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:49:32 2013 No.5027004 >>5026991 >>5027001 oops, im a retard

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:49:32 2013 No.5027005

>>5026996
I'm being a good friend by trying to get them rid of their bad habits.
It's unhealthy and in the worst case, fatal to them. I don't preach about that shit to them, but if smoker friend of mine complains about his sore throat or bad teeth, I do remind them that maybe they should stop smoking.
I do have a fat friend but then he doesn't go around complaining about the fact that he's fat so I don't tell him to lose weight either.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:53:33 2013 No.5027008 >>5024006 Salad >fiber >vitamins >phytochems Processed foods >Saturated fat >dyes >vitamin C

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 07:35:07 2013 No.5027037 >>5024485 Pretty much this, from teenage to mid 20s I couldn't gain weight no matter what I ate, then suddenly I was 106kg. Down to a reasonable 76kg now, took half a year, but so fucking worth it.

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 08:08:06 2013 No.5027069

Some people have health issues but the reality is the vast majority is due to diet. Most fatties think they're the few that have health reasons leading to it but they're just in denial. However, every ones metabolism is different. I know a guy that can eat the worst foods non stop and hes skinny as fuck. My brother eats like a bird and is a bit pudgy. Not huge but beefy for sure.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 08:12:06 2013 No.5027072 >>5024006 That's not true at all. Different foods metabolise differently.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 08:17:06 2013 No.5027078 >>5025559 I've never done it, but eggs are rather healthy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 08:20:06 2013 No.5027082 >>5026914 and those hormone problems don't automatically make them fat, they cause them to have different dietary needs than average, so eating an average diet does not meet their needs correctly

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 08:42:06 2013 No.5027106 >>5025556 >>5025592 I don't even think it's butter, it looks like that I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S NOT BUTTER shit, which is basically margarine, which as you know is basically oil.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 08:44:06 2013 No.5027110 the mom isn't really even fat, just large The daughter on the other hand is going to grow up to be one of those fucks who needs a crane

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 08:45:06 2013 No.5027112 >>5027110 >Triple chin >Not fat

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 08:47:06 2013 No.5027120

>>5027112
she's really not. That's just some bad distribution, but girth wise she's more than acceptable.

And I don't get the butter complaints. If you freeze the image they aren't even square chunks so it's not as much as it seems, and not really that many of them. Probably way less than half a quarter of a stick, and I've cooked plenty of dishes that call for a half to a whole stick for family size portions

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>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 08:49:25 2013 No.5027125 >>5027120 fucking late nights meant less than half, not half a quarter

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 08:55:25 2013 No.5027130 >>5027110 >not fat >American standards of obesity

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 10:10:45 2013 No.5027249 >>5023957 There are several factors. It's a really a case-by-case thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 10:17:45 2013 No.5027264 >>5025245 I'm not average height though, I'm 4 foot 1.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 10:19:45 2013 No.5027271 >>5026203 There are also medical conditions that make it impossible to gain weight.

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 10:23:45 2013 No.5027279

Are people still seriously saying that diet is the only factor in weight gain? Sci-show JUST did an episode on this shit to prove you faggots wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgnbRK8pij8

Feel free to check all their citations and learn on your own.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 10:25:45 2013 No.5027280 >>5027279 Nobody is claiming it's the only factor. It is a considerable factor however.

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 10:39:01 2013 No.5027306

>>5027280
It is, but people in this thread seem pretty bent on it as if it's the only thing that's wrong. You get fat from the things you put in your body, HOWEVER you can get fat putting the same things in your body that your skinny friend puts in their body simply because of external factors aside from what you're eating.

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 11:01:01 2013 No.5027350

I can comment on the judging fat people thing, having been both obese and slim (currently slim again).First off, it has everything to do with what you eat and how much you exercise. A calorie may be a calorie, but if, say, cheese is a major component of your supper you're probably going to consume too many calories. Because people generally don't count calories, or if they do they count them inaccurately. People eat when they're hungry. And if they eat food that delivers lots of calories before making them feel sated they get fat.

As for whether or not it's OK to discriminate against fatties, it doesn't matter, because everybody does it anyways. You want to lose whatever sexy you have? Want people to stop taking you seriously? Want to be seen as less intelligent than you are? Want to look like a poorfag, regardless of how much money you have? It's easy. Just get yourself 40-60lbs above "normal" weight and you're there.

When you lose that weight you notice people start treating you different: like you're richer, more intelligent, classier and sexier. You get better tables in restaurants. You get hit on, which, if you've been a fatty for years is incredibly flattering. Your career goes on an upswing, because people take you more seriously. People you meet give you more respect right off the bat.

Being fat is being ugly in the eyes of everyone except a fat fetishist. I don't know or care whether it's "right" to discriminate against ugly people, but I can tell you it's just human nature to treat good looking people better. So if it's within your control to become good looking it's to your advantage to do so.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 11:09:01 2013 No.5027366 >>5027306 >external factors Yes, that would be called getting off one's fat pimply ass and moving those cellulite stumps that normal humans refer to as "legs".

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 11:15:01 2013 No.5027381 >>5027366 Did you watch the video? Exercise and diet are literally lumped together as the two generic things brought up when there's more to it.

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 11:33:01 2013 No.5027408

>>5027381

The problem is that the video says "there's more to it". And there are other factors. But the video seems to think those factors are significant, while they're really not very significant at all. For example, yes, it's true that different people have different metabolisms. But the difference in metabolism between people isn't a very big thing. See: >>5025085. The amount of food consumed is by far the most important factor. It comes down to basic physics: calories in, calories out. And it's much easier to change that ratio by food than it is to change it by exercise. For example, a normal 12-oz can of cola is about 200 calories. That's equivalent to roughly 30 minutes of playing sports or average exercise (Cycling at a moderate speed, jogging, etc.). It is easier, for most people, to cut out the cola than it is to do the exercise.

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 11:35:01 2013 No.5027411

Growing up my mom fed me healthy meals, and I was an average weight kid. Then she got bored of cooking and made Hamburger Helper every night. I wanted to play outside with friends but everyone in the neighborhood was years older than me, so once we got AOL I turned to the internet for friendship. That's my story anyway

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 11:41:01 2013 No.5027417 do all southern americans eat like this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 11:54:01 2013 No.5027437 >>5027417 are all German Nazis?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 11:54:01 2013 No.5027438 >>5027437 yes

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 12:03:09 2013 No.5027460 >>5025189 > giving them the credit for someone's else donations ok, mate

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 12:13:09 2013 No.5027484 >>5027438 sorry i dont mean that

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 12:16:09 2013 No.5027489

>>5023957
I eat a LOT. I eat thousands upon thousands of calories a day. I eat a lot of fats, fiber, red meats, and carbs, hell even a lot of salt. I cook often and in large quantities that I can eat for a few days so that I'm not cooking every single day. And everything I cook is made from simple unrefined ingredients that don't have chemical additives, preservatives, or pesticides, etc.

And I haven't gotten fat. I'm hovering at around 170 lbs with a trim waist and a healthy blood pressure. I don't exercise but maybe once a month. For unrelated reasons, I had some bloodwork done recently and I don't have any hormone conditions or an overactive thyroid or awesome metabolism that could be keeping me thin. Also I definitely was fat during college while I was eating shitty food at a dining hall.

This is not good evidence towards shitty food being what makes people fat, there are too many hidden factors involved. But I can tell you that I definitely have become healthier and lost weight since I started eating actual fucking food. I don't believe that fat makes you fat, and I don't believe that calories are all that matter, and so far it's a mentality that is working for me.

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 12:30:26 2013 No.5027514

>>5027489
>I can tell you that I definitely have become healthier and lost weight since I started eating actual fucking food.
I'd go along with this. Pollan's advice to eat (real) food, not too much, mostly plants is great for a middle aged person. A younger person can blow off the "mostly plants" bit, and would have a different definition of how much is too much. But the premise holds true. If you're eating real food and not treating every day like it's a wedding feast it's hard to get fat. It can be done, but it takes work.

My brother is obese, and he cooks everything from scratch using high quality ingredients. His problem is not the quality of what he eats, but his tragic concept of serving size. He eats about two meals' worth of food every time he sits down. My brother in law does the same thing, but he's 6'6" and works a physically demanding job - he's slim.

Aside from exercise the two main tragedies conspiring against obese Americans seem to be:

- not knowing what real food is
- having no concept of portion size

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 12:37:25 2013 No.5027523

>>5027514
>- not knowing what real food is
>- having no concept of portion size

Agreed 1000%.

And I'd even add in a third one:

-Lack of cooking skills

When you don't know how to cook even simple meals seem like some kind of grand mystery how to prepare. And that makes it so much easier to give in and buy garbage like fast food instead of real food.

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 16:38:23 2013 No.5028017
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A run a blog on tumblr which shits on SJWs and yesterday, (without saying a single thing about fat positive people) I received this gem right here from some nut, and thought you guys might be interested in giving it a read.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 19:54:05 2013 No.5028456 >IMPLYING FREE WILL

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 20:06:05 2013 No.5028482

>>5028017
The trouble is fat people (well, "fat activists") think they're special. Everyone of every weight, size, shape, diet, lifestyle, haircut, etc. gets unsolicited comments and judgement, dickheads are gonna be dickheads no matter what. FAs are so self absorbed either they think it only happens to them or that they deserve special treatment. It's so childish. Even smokers and junkies don't do this shit.

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 20:23:05 2013 No.5028512
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Recovering fat fuck here. I've been on diets since I was 10, and encountered many people trying to lose weight since that time, so I think I have a pretty good view on it, although I do suck at explaining things, so please bear with me.

It's a combination of shit food and lack of education about nutrition and exercise. A lot of the fatties I've talked to don't understand a thing about eating right, and will eat vegetarian "health" foods like pastas, or thing that because they ate say, a bowl of ice cream, but no dinner, that it's perfectly fine calorie wise. Oftentimes fatties are raised with parents that also don't understand this, so breaking the habit is hard to do. Plus, by coming from a family that eats unhealthy foods, and is therefore fat, they're more likely to blame it on genetics rather than the food itself.

A lot also overestimate the amount of calories they've burned when they work out, and tend to reward themselves with food. (ex. I walked a mile today, so I can have a piece of cake) rather than just sticking with it.

I will take this moment to say that it isn't just laziness like some people believe. Having an unhealthy relationship with food is one of the worst things, especially if you, like many fatties, become addicted to it. Yes, food is addictive if you abuse it, especially the junk foods. Hell, I liken overeating to abusing alcohol. It might be a bit extreme, but it's really not any different.

>>5028017
I hate this shit. You cannot be healthy AND fat.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 20:45:25 2013 No.5028570 >>5028512 GAH! The most disturbing thing about that photo is that she's barefoot in a public restroom Fucking disgusting, forever unclean.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 20:47:25 2013 No.5028572 >>5028570 >barefoot in a public restroom Damn what the fuck, I didn't even notice that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 20:49:24 2013 No.5028575 >>5028572 >>5028570 This is why you have allergies and asthma americunts.

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 21:01:24 2013 No.5028598

>>5028512
I could buy that some fat person is healthier than some other skinnier person, but holy fuck these retards completely ignore the only important comparison. Be as "healthy" as you want, but the you that is clinically obese will never be healthier than the you without a triple digit BMI

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 21:20:24 2013 No.5028652 >>5028575 This is why you smell like shit, eurofag

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 21:29:24 2013 No.5028670 >>5024006 FIDF plz

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 21:31:24 2013 No.5028675 File: 3 KB, 125x125, f143820584.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5024052 >fat-positive I better get tested...

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 21:34:24 2013 No.5028680 >>5028575 But I'm not even American.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 21:42:24 2013 No.5028692 File: 58 KB, 366x500, pd2998216.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5024104 >becoming more popular >on the road to acceptance Just for the record, I'm not defending pedophilia, I'm condemning society.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 21:46:24 2013 No.5028697 >>5024052 I shit you not, I saw that same picture in a anti-fat thread on /pol/ and I'm still disgusted by her. > So many fat swj

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 21:46:24 2013 No.5028700

>>5028512
>Recovering fat fuck here
I hear ya. I grew up in a chunky family, where food was a reward, we ate lots of crap and no one had any idea what a reasonable portion size was.

Fortunately I was active, so I didn't become obese until I hit my 30's, still eating like a teenager. Fixed that through diet and exercise, but it was hard work.

My parents and siblings are all still obese, though, and frequently tell me I go "overboard" on the diet and exercise thing. They look at me like I'm crazy when I pass on dessert after a big holiday meal. Yeah, right. I just ate twice the claories I normally consume in a day, and now Imma through some more fat and sugar down on top of it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 22:05:31 2013 No.5028746 >>5028700 keep up the good work.

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 22:05:31 2013 No.5028747

>>5028700
Yeah. The rest of my family isn't fat at all, some of them are chubby, but nobody ever reached the levels I have, so my situation was quite different than yours though, and it led to me developing eating disorders, which wasn't very fun. Thankfully though I've been able to break past them, although it hasn't been easy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 22:17:30 2013 No.5028773 >>5028747 >Thankfully though I've been able to break past them, although it hasn't been easy. Good for you. May not have been easy, but you're doing the right thing.

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 22:31:30 2013 No.5028795

>>5023957

Fat shithead here

Overeating is my problem!

As a kid, I was still a fat piece of shit, but my mother always made homemade meals. It's from drinking too much soda and eating too many snacks. If you ever have kids, please give them dietary discipline. I'm currently losing weight, hope to get down to 200 soon ( I was 260, right now 220).

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 22:31:30 2013 No.5028796 File: 54 KB, 324x289, 1379681748303.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5024046 That's the first 2d I've seen I could actually fap too. >dat nip slip

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 22:34:31 2013 No.5028800 >>5025556 >sitting down to dinner and come in to snicker at /ck/ bickering, see link. > dinner ruined.

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 22:58:30 2013 No.5028862

>>5024110
>it's like being gunshot-positive, or cancer-positive
This reminds me of deaf parents not wanting to give their deaf children cochlear implants because of "muh deaf culture, special club, it's not a disability it's a different ability!" bs. Could there be anything worse than people with these types of cultish dispositions?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 23:07:30 2013 No.5028878 >>5024409 >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgnbRK8pij8 The tourette's level aspergers is stronk with this one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 23:13:30 2013 No.5028889 File: 18 KB, 366x308, 1382999902601.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5024555 More like tapeworm, amirite?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 23:34:30 2013 No.5028934 >>5023957 that drawing of her in the titlecards is far too flattering

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 17 00:55:25 2013 No.5029120 File: 37 KB, 630x400, Nelson+Mandela+laugh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5024721 >WPP

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 17 01:00:25 2013 No.5029139 >>5023957 I just hope non-Americans realize this is on TV because we find it ridiculous.

Anonymous Tue Dec 17 01:03:25 2013 No.5029146
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>>5025025
>Another eats hamburgers with eggs on them
Skinnyfag here, I WISH these made me fat. As much as I agree that diet and lifestyle contribute a lot to obesity, genetics play a big role. For all intents and purposes, I should be fat as fuck.

Anonymous Tue Dec 17 01:41:29 2013 No.5029222
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>>5025189
>>5025210
How fucking dense and credulous can you be? You think these fat degenerates would keep a show if they just hoarded all their money? That would be a different show. You can't be a philanthropist and be poor at the same time. Besides, donating a few canned hams to their equally as piteous but not quite as lucky neighbors doesn't undo the damage that kind of program does to so-called American culture.

Matthew 6:1-3
“Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. “Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 17 01:44:29 2013 No.5029228 >>5029146 it would be interesting if you did a food diary that included your activity level

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 17 01:50:32 2013 No.5029240 >>5029146 Do >>5029228 Because I'm sure you're not a biological freak of nature. >lol i'm so skinny but i eat so much! xD

Anonymous Tue Dec 17 02:01:32 2013 No.5029259
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Fatasses are fat because they are gluttons with no discipline, restraint or consideration for themselves or others. Every single lard ass who tells you she "tries diets and they don't work" is full to her fat fucking brims of the rankest horseshit. They go on retarded diets they read about in magazines and the internet about how if they eat such and such they will lose weight. But they don't exercise or change their other habits. I was a fat 300 lb motherfucker when I was only 14 and my dad helped control me from eating 8 slices of pepperoni pizza to only 2 with some salad, as well as playing sports. Yes it was hard but I lost my weight and have been a healthy weight for almost a decade. My mom goes on the aforementioned "diets" and has been a hamplanet my entire life and refuses to follow my example and says it's "because I was young" that I lost the weight. BULLSHIT. Don't believe the garbage they vomit out of their mayonnaise-encrusted food-holes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 17 02:07:32 2013 No.5029270 Most of the people on this board eat the same nasty shit fat people eat, they just don't eat enough to become obese. You're still gross

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 17 03:08:34 2013 No.5029340 >>5029259 >bullshitstory.txt

Anonymous Tue Dec 17 03:30:34 2013 No.5029359

>>5024389
Most swearwords and insults are off limits to these people, because find them oppressive. For instance, calling someone a retard shits on the 'differently abled,' calling someone a cunt does the same with women, and so on so forth.

So they had to come up with something. Thankfully, it sounds even more juvenile than your average insult.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 17 03:32:34 2013 No.5029362 >>5029340 What makes you think it's bullshit, dick strangler? It's unbelievable that I was fat and lost weight? Butthurt you're still obese despite eating acai berries or whatever the diet of the month is now?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 17 03:46:54 2013 No.5029375 >>5029362 Unbelievable that such a great conflagration of projected butthurt could ever manifest itself in reality.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 17 03:50:53 2013 No.5029376 File: 7 KB, 122x80, 1383566683696.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5029259 >if they eat such and such they will lose weight >eating to lose weight

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 17 03:51:53 2013 No.5029377 >>5027120 Man, the obesity epidemic's really shifting those goalposts.

Anonymous Tue Dec 17 04:12:28 2013 No.5029408

>>5029375
I was fat and worked hard to be not fat. Thus hearing the fat fucks who bitch and moan about trying to lose weight while I KNOW for a fact that they aren't actually trying bothers the fuck out of me. What it all comes down to is them being lazy, gluttonous pigs and refusing to accept blame for something entirely their fault ("it's genetics", "can't afford healthy food", "I'm on a diet, it's not working", "I'm trying really hard to lose weight; today I ordered an X-large diet coke along with my 3 big macs").
>>5029376
Ridiculous isn't it?

Anonymous Tue Dec 17 04:16:12 2013 No.5029416
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>>5025222
>We're talking ketchup, pasta, and butter.

You mean tomatoes, flour, eggs, and milk? And of course, the most important ingredient you can't buy in the store, the love.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 17 05:10:31 2013 No.5029452 >>5025312 >daww, poor fatties and junkies Addiction and obesity are not diseases unto themselves. They are a disease of a society. They are the epitome of first world problems.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 17 10:57:48 2013 No.5029757 >>5028773 Thanks, you too anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 17 10:59:48 2013 No.5029760 >>5029408 >can't afford healthy food That is the fucking worst excuse. It makes my blood boil each time I hear it.

Anonymous Tue Dec 17 14:53:31 2013 No.5030101

>>5028512
>I will take this moment to say that it isn't just laziness like some people believe.

Coming from a family with very clear eating disorders, I definitely feel you.

Every single member of my family has an unhealthy relationship with food. Food was always used as a reward, my mother's cooking tended to contain excessive amounts of butter, and while we ate veggies often, dishes as a whole tended to be on the unhealthier side. Having two parents who grew up dirt poor, they passed on their survival eating habits to their children, especially the concept of always wiping your plate clean. When we go out for dinner we absolutely destroy appetizers in literally minutes. The reactions on waiters' faces are pretty priceless. Both my brother and I used to be incredibly fat when we were younger. Not obese, but heavily overweight. After we both started working out, we've shed a lot of weight. Now, like my Dad who also works out, our weight ranges from average to slightly chubby, even with hitting the gym four times a week, mostly because of our shitty eating habits. My sister is skinny, but that is because she typically binge eats on some days and then will starve herself other days. She has absolutely no concept of healthy eating and it is scary. My mother is the only member of the family who is now very overweight, because she neither exercises or starves herself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 18 01:02:22 2013 No.5031358 >>5028862 Fuck these people right in their ear, all they're doing is trying to save a buck, the assholes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 18 11:26:59 2013 No.5032015 >>5023957 is she makin' sketti?

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