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Anonymous Thu Dec 12 14:53:36 2013 No.5016971 [DELETED]

#truth

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:03:35 2013 No.5016989 The joke's on you for drinking in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:04:35 2013 No.5016990 People tip when they drink?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:05:35 2013 No.5016992 >>5016990 Depends on how drunk they get.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:07:08 2013 No.5016994 File: 44 KB, 520x775, Wheres My Tip.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Driver here. Tipping is not an obligation, it's a standard. Either tip me or suffer the consequences

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:08:07 2013 No.5016997 >>5016971 I'll tip a dollar for the first and then 1 every two or three beers after. Seriously, handing me an overpriced beer is not worth a tip at all.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:08:07 2013 No.5016998 >>5016994 either form a union or get a real job, slacker.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:09:07 2013 No.5017002 >>5016990 a happy bartender is a good bartender

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:09:07 2013 No.5017003 >>5016994 >that feel when i tipped the Papa John's guy 38 cents on Thanksgiving suck my dick madfags

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:10:06 2013 No.5017005 >>5016998 Well then I put you at the bottom of my delivery list bitch nigga, even though you live two minutes away. If you don't want to tip, order the meal for pick up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:14:06 2013 No.5017013 >>5017002 I didn't know this was even a thing. Nevertheless I think it's retarded. If they want I'll walk behind the bar and get my own beer, a 8 year old could do it with ease

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:15:06 2013 No.5017015 >give me extra money or i'll ignore your patronage

Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:16:06 2013 No.5017016
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>>5017005
>If you don't want to tip, order the meal for pick up.

>mfw I order pick-up at a local place where the register is run by one of the servers, so I usually tip around 5 bucks anyway
>She's started recognizing me and slipping a free brownie or fresh-baked cookie dessert in with my order.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:16:06 2013 No.5017017 >>5016971 >tipping more than a dollar a drink

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:22:06 2013 No.5017029 I only tip when the bar is really packed, now when its empty, fuck that shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:23:06 2013 No.5017032 >>5017016 >mfw I order pick-up at a local place where the register is run by one of the servers, so I usually tip around 5 bucks anyway What the fuck are you doing?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:31:06 2013 No.5017045 >mfw Ive always tipped $5 by default, no matter how much I was charged >mfw the bartender allowed me to masturbate at the bar as long as I washed my hands afterwards Living in Kentucky was quite cool, actually.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:32:24 2013 No.5017048 >>5017045 wat

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:35:23 2013 No.5017051 >>5017045 typical kentucky behavior, I live in Lexington and have masturbated into the sink of every bar downtown, and at all of the olive gardens though this had nothing to do with me leaving large tips

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:36:23 2013 No.5017053 >Tipping for someone to pour a drink or open a bottle on top of the already ridiculous beer price Never.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:37:23 2013 No.5017055 >5 dollar tip on one drink >2 dollar tip on one drink Thats easily a 40% tip on a good beer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:41:23 2013 No.5017059 >>5017053 Shit, son. Don't you know that tipping a bartender big up front pretty much guarantees double-strength drinks all night?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:42:23 2013 No.5017061 can someone explain to me why this tipping shit is acceptable?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:44:24 2013 No.5017062 >>5017059 Not on beer it don't.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:44:24 2013 No.5017063 >>5017059 >Implying you can get double strength beers >Implying anyone would ever buy hard alcohol at a bar instead of pregaming It's like you've never drunk before.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:44:24 2013 No.5017064 >>5017061 American entitlement. See: McDonald's workers striking for $15/h wage increase. Poor people think they deserve what rich people have, without having to put the work in.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:45:24 2013 No.5017068 >>5017061 Because the majority of Americans work in the service industry. Muh entitlement.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:57:23 2013 No.5017087 >>5017016 >she starts giving me an item on the menu equal to the value of the 'tip' I give her dumbfuck

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 15:57:24 2013 No.5017083 I don't really understand this shit about tipping bartenders. They get entirely overtipped for the service they provide.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 16:13:23 2013 No.5017107 I'm so glad this isn't a thing in the UK, that's absolutely laughable. Imagine tipping someone just for pulling a pint, absolutely retarded.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 16:22:23 2013 No.5017129 >>5016971 >tip for a drink you fuckin wot mate! I've never tipped for a drink in my life, do not know anyone who tips for drinks, and have never heard of anyone tipping for drinks.

Anonymous Thu Dec 12 16:24:40 2013 No.5017132

I don't go tO bars much because I can buy my own beer and liquor at liquor stores. I dont see a point in buying drinks I can make myself, and I know how a bottle opener works.

I do have a friend in a band, and I go see them play in bars about once a month. I tip the bartenders mostly because they have to put up with the singer's drunken political or religious rants that typically start halfway through the show.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 16:34:40 2013 No.5017148 >>5017083 >Paid to pour drinks >Expect extra tips for it I don't get it either. Bartenders can suck my dick.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 17:05:40 2013 No.5017217 >tipping at all The most I do is just say I don't want the small change and I only (although I never have because fuck that) tip bartenders properly if they give great service

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 17:07:40 2013 No.5017223 >>5016971 I'll put a dollar or two in the tip jar after I'm done drinking. They can get fucked if they think they deserve more.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 17:09:41 2013 No.5017230 >>5017132 The purpose is to go out and socialize and such.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 17:15:40 2013 No.5017244 Do people actually tip more than $1 for a drink?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 17:19:40 2013 No.5017251 >>5017244 I tip 2 dollars for a more complicated cocktail. But per beer I only tip a dollar.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 17:20:40 2013 No.5017253 >>5016994 >tipping drivers what

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 17:20:40 2013 No.5017254 >>5017244 I've never seen people tip per drink. At most I see is a few dollars after dropping at least 25-50 dollars in a night. I never tip. Don't care.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 17:21:40 2013 No.5017256 >TFW tipping is illegal in my country and if you are caught tipping you get your tipping hand cut off and the server fired. Feels good to be free.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 17:22:40 2013 No.5017257 >>5017254 I normally do $1 if i am just getting one drink, or $2 for 2, but if I am buying more than that I would not go up to 1$/drink

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 17:22:40 2013 No.5017258 >>5017256 What blessed land do you live in, friend?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 17:22:40 2013 No.5017259 >>5017256 lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 17:26:40 2013 No.5017262 >>5017256 >and the server fired >not being stoned to death. Nice 'free' country, m8

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 17:26:40 2013 No.5017263 >beers are already insanely marked up >pay what you could get a six-pack for, for one drink >smart

>>	That Guy !!3F68Vxi4Ef5 Thu Dec 12 17:27:15 2013 No.5017267 File: 41 KB, 493x737, Gogo07.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5016971 >tipping for anything other than a mixed drink >tipping more than a dollar

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 17:30:14 2013 No.5017271 >>5017267 I used to think the same way, until I found a local bar I like. Now, I tip when I get my first drink, and after my last drink if I stay there for a while.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 17:37:14 2013 No.5017282 >spending as much on tips for a drink I hate this country

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 17:41:14 2013 No.5017285 >>5017257 That's not so bad then

Anonymous Fri Dec 13 03:01:39 2013 No.5018477

>>5016971

I tip 1 dollar per drink. period.

If the bartender is kind with the alcohol i might tip $2 but since I work in the club the drinks they give me are already strong.

Speaking of, EVEN IF YOU GET FREE DRINKS, TIP THE BARTENDER!

It will get you so many perks later

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 03:05:39 2013 No.5018480 What are you tipping for? They already earn a wage from the profit margin on the alcohol..

Anonymous Fri Dec 13 03:09:40 2013 No.5018484

my go to drink is a tom collins, I have had exactly 2 people make and garnish it correctly and they are the only two that got a tip from me.

it especially butters my ass when they dont even put it in the right glass. its called a fucking collins glass, are you retarded? what are you even doing back there?

one time a guy gave me a glass of vodka and lime juice because doesnt that sound wonderful...he caught himself and said "oh wait, Im sorry. I made you a kamikaze by accident"
no idiot, you didn't even do that you just gave me a glass of shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 03:43:18 2013 No.5018519 >>5018477 >tip generously in hopes of perks What perks? You've just paid for them.

Anonymous Fri Dec 13 03:47:19 2013 No.5018522

>>5016971
i don't even eat at restaurants but this is such a big annoying issue that i want people to stop having wars over it.

i always feel like its unfair how waiters and other tippable-type jobs get paid, just because the boss thinks that these poor f****rs get enough and should earn the rest from people who just wanted to eat a sandwich, and are not expecting to give up even more money than the price of the food.

what a retarded paradoxical system.

waiters should get paid FULL wages, not a penny and "earn the rest if your so good" they are already working a job, they should get paid for it.

as for the people eating at a restaurant, they shouldn't have to worry about paying for anything other than the price of food, people go to restaurants to sit down and relax and pay the restaurant to prepare and cook the food and bring it to them, and they already pay much more than it would have costed them to buy all the ingredients and make it themselves at home, so for the pressure of needing to pay some poor kid tips to be there, it kind of screws everyone over, the waiter, the customer, etc.

imagine if you could just walk in, sit down, pay for your meal, eat it, go home.

imagine if you could go to work, get paid for working, and go home.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 03:49:18 2013 No.5018525 >>5016994 What consequences? You've already given me my food you stupid faggot. And since I'm not some fatass that gorges on pizza weekly you'll never even remember it was me.

Anonymous Fri Dec 13 03:49:19 2013 No.5018524

>>5018522
supposedly a study was done (I forget by who, you can probably find it on Google somewhere) which showed that if waiters and waitresses wages were changed to minimum wage that food prices at restaurants would go up by about ten cents at most. At restaurants the smallest expense which owners pay is the wages of their staff, and they are already so low that it won't make much difference. Additionally, there's this thing called balancing your budget and an owner could simply allocate a little money from one area and use it for wages, which would result in little or no change of food prices.

The whole "your food will become super expensive!" argument is perpetuated by the greedy chain-restaurants who want to get away with paying their staff next to nothing. They want customers to pay staff wages instead (which you do in the form of tips) and they have fixed the minimum wage for waiters and waitresses at a very low price.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 03:52:18 2013 No.5018530 >>5017230 Fuck you

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 03:57:18 2013 No.5018539 >>5018524 Owners on the franchise level would be hurt by wage increases. That's not to say that wages shouldn't increase. The money should come from the top rather than the middle. Trickle-down economics is and always has been bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 03:58:18 2013 No.5018542 >>5018539 >Trickle-down economics is and always has been bullshit. because its a made up strawman by the left that nobody has ever suggested as an economic theory ever once in history

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 04:04:18 2013 No.5018548 >>5018542 Obviously, you're too young to remember the roaring 80's.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 04:07:18 2013 No.5018553 >>5016971 >bartenders can afford to tip more than double the average This is why we should tip less

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 04:14:18 2013 No.5018560 >>5016971 I'm not tipping 100% of the cost of a beer when I've had to stand at the bar and being ignored for 5 minutes while the bartender ignores me to serve the sluts with their tits hanging out.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 04:16:19 2013 No.5018566 File: 793 KB, 360x203, euphedora.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5018560

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 04:17:19 2013 No.5018567 >if you want to be remembered well in that case the correct answer for all four would be 0.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 04:20:18 2013 No.5018575 >>5018566 Such a wicked burn. Think of me when you're holding your girlfriend's "I need feminism because..." sign. I'll be drinking cheap booze at home.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 04:23:18 2013 No.5018578 >>5017045 The fuck? I lived in KY for 4 years for college and never saw shit like this. I missed out.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 04:27:18 2013 No.5018585 >>5018560 You should be talking to them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 04:29:19 2013 No.5018589 Oh wow, Americlaps actually tip for drinks? You literally tip everybody who's working a job.

Anonymous Fri Dec 13 04:30:19 2013 No.5018590
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>>5018575
Oh yeah? Well, the joke's on you because I've been drinking cheap booze all night at home myself, I'm just not a complete tool like you. And what the fuck does feminism have to do with this? Don't you belong on /pol/ or /r9k/? You seem out of your element.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 04:32:18 2013 No.5018594 >>5018590 Everyone knows the fedora is the flag of MRAs.

Anonymous Fri Dec 13 04:34:18 2013 No.5018598

I was oblivious to tipping bartenders until my very normie friend said its customary. 2 dollars a drink
It kind of blows ass though because after 3 or so drinks could of gotten another drink.
Fuck that shit
Bartenders get paid already don't they?
Plus the young dudes only give a shit about pretty girls
its a pay to be second place contest

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 04:34:18 2013 No.5018599 >>5018594 See, I think the fedora has just become the flag of anyone who's a ridiculous ass about normal stuff. Everyone who's like "I gotta make a statement". Hey, guess what, no one gives a shit.

Anonymous Fri Dec 13 04:37:18 2013 No.5018604

>>5018524
Found it for you:

http://laborcenter.berkeley.edu/foodlabor/price_food12.pdf

What it discusses is a proposal to increase tipped minimum wage to $4.68 (which is still below the federal non-tipped minimum, but you can roughly estimate what that'd be like).

Costs passed to the consumer are infinitesimal. If I understand it correctly, paying your servers the minimum wage costs consumers a lot less than tipping them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 04:37:19 2013 No.5018603 >>5018599 using fedoras as a counter to a decently thought out argument is just as bad as the bait pictures. its such fucking nonsense.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 04:39:18 2013 No.5018608 >>5018603 How the FUCK was that post a decently thought out argument? It was a borish, juvenile, uncouth, rash statement from someone who has less class than than my cat does in his deformed back paw.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 04:43:19 2013 No.5018611 >>5018608 was that an attempt at being witty? If you are talking about how bartenders will serve tits regardless than you haven't been to enough bars/places with bars (they are kinda shit anywho)

Anonymous Fri Dec 13 04:47:18 2013 No.5018621

>>5018608

Okay, then here's the argument in plain terms.

The markup on a decent beer is 50% or more of what it can be obtained from a retailer.
The service at a bar is horrible. Customers are expected to file in like pigs at trough where the pushiest people are served first.
If you are an attractive female, you will almost invariably be served with priority by male bartenders.
Tipping even a dollar on a decent beer is well above the the industry standard of 20%.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 04:49:18 2013 No.5018625 >>5018611 Your response is a perfect example of borish, uncouth, juvenile behavior. I think it IS better you stay home and drink alone.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 04:50:18 2013 No.5018628 >>5018625 >borish, uncouth, juvenile behavior Welcome to American bars where drinking is done only to facilitate drunken anonymous hookups.

Anonymous Fri Dec 13 04:56:18 2013 No.5018634

>>5018621
A. Go to better bars. Your problem is solved.
B. Of course attractive females get priority. (Unless you are in a gay bar.) Bars need to retain the patronage of attractive females in order to lure more men into the bar. I doubt you've ever said to your friends, "Hey! Let's go to that bar where all the mediocre, homely girls hang out!" It simple economics and marketing.
Now, on the tipping end, I feel it's best to tip conservatively at the beginning, and then if you get good service throughout, tip well at the end.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 05:29:25 2013 No.5018665 >>5017016 Down's Syndrome hits some harder than others.

Anonymous Fri Dec 13 06:01:25 2013 No.5018696

honestly, it varies country to much less county to county it's really difficult. in'merrica, at least my corner, wait staff are paid next to nothing like farm hands. a good one can make big. a llot under the table there are ways. wasn't born yesterday.I tip about 15% if average. 20% if great. if you have a party of 8 and request tables be pulled together leave at least a twenty. and that is for no alcohol places. at a bar, a buck a drink. run a tab.. tittie bars, sup toyopu. my humble experience is keep a 50 to get home trust me while i get some cash. no. a dollar or two per night for motel housekeeping .not required. but nice. places like mcky de or bk. none unless you want to. itis certainly not expected. Mail people... expressly forbiden in the us from recieving gifts need not be great, but a note and somthing would be nice. hair. round up if it costs15 for a cut. give them 20. a tip of the fedora. but not always. sub standard is 5% and be aware, it might not be the servers fault. maybe they had a bad day, the server r the kitchen. shit happens. but if you have been there three times, and bad, time to go elsewhere. the ultimate insult? leave a penny for a tip. I would not would not advise that. you might get chased into the parking lot. with a knife or gun. everyone has a bad day. best thing to do is not go there. hey big spender, it's 2014 not 1976. a a five buck tip for a party of 4don't cut it. it is very touchy . the one thing i hate is when people expect a tip, for doing nothing. here is a tip, plant your corn early, and hope it grows.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 07:45:58 2013 No.5018805 File: 92 KB, 495x781, ySh5L.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5016971 >>5016994 >>5017059 >>5017282 >>5018604 Holy fuck i'm glad I don't live in Tipistan. The whole self-important "eye for an eye" entitlement mentality makes me sick.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 07:59:32 2013 No.5018812 File: 151 KB, 817x1000, 1386939542450.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5017016 >slipping a free brownie You need to slip her something too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 08:09:32 2013 No.5018817 File: 8 KB, 199x200, 1365181487334.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tipping

Anonymous Fri Dec 13 08:11:19 2013 No.5018820

>>5017064
>implying bartenders don't get paid under the minimum wage and that performance-based tips aren't the bulk of their income.
>implying a $31,200/yr income makes you "rich".
>implying the majority of rich Americans have ever worked a day in their life and haven't just had their income-generating nest-egg handed down to them for generations.

Are you a moron or just European?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 08:16:19 2013 No.5018823 >>5018805 >Holy fuck i'm glad I don't live in Tipistan. The whole self-important "eye for an eye" entitlement mentality makes me sick. This.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 08:17:18 2013 No.5018824 >>5018820 >implying the majority of rich Americans have ever worked a day in their life Poor American being mad at kowtowing to the rich his entire life detected.

Anonymous Fri Dec 13 08:40:18 2013 No.5018853

yes. they get ten ft tall and bulletproof. depending on their personalities, they get really nice, orrealloy mean. and really mean. if you are going to drink or smoke. try and keep one foot on the floor. and or have an alternate. because some get really ugly quick. with tragic consequences.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 14:03:34 2013 No.5019361 >>5017107 We do have the "and one for yourself" tipping method though. I only use it in my local though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 14:05:35 2013 No.5019368 >>5016971 >TIPPING FOR A PINT HOLEE SHIT.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 14:16:34 2013 No.5019387 >>5017002 An obviously unhappy bartender is a bad bartender, regardless of tips Being a bartender is not difficult and you'll either make on volume or on quality, unless you both a.) suck AND b.) work somewhere shitty

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 04:03:07 2013 No.5020815 You always round up to 50% for waiters/bartenders. It is just common courtesy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 04:05:07 2013 No.5020819 >paying a guy to poison you Alcoholic logic

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 04:35:25 2013 No.5020839

>>5017016

My Chinese food lady used to do this with me too. Every time I went to pick up my order after work, she'd include a free side of something with my usual meal. Nice lady.

Delivery drivers are just a dregg on society who don't deserve any tip because it just lines up their pockets so they can spend it on iTunes downloads or whatever the fuck else.

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 09:36:23 2013 No.5021086

Hey,I work in restaurant and whenever I order something off the menu while I'm at work I usually just have a server ring it in. Should I tip the server if I made the food myself? All they're doing is punching the thing into the computer and swiping my card.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 10:02:22 2013 No.5021112 >>5017005 They still have a tip line for pick up orders. Drew Brees got some shit for giving like $3 for a tip on a pick up order.

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 10:30:31 2013 No.5021143

>>5018519
It always makes me laugh how the only argument Amerifats have for the tipping system is "all the amazing extra perks.
> wow you guys! I gave someone some money, and then (and this is the really amazing part) I got something in return for it.

Well done, retard. You figured out what a transaction is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 10:31:31 2013 No.5021147 >>5017016 So she's pocketing the cash and giving you something at the cost of the restaurant to keep your fatass happy. She's a clever one

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 10:36:31 2013 No.5021156

>>5021112
>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/01/drew-brees-small-tip-controversy_n_3692151.html
>"I would like to personally apologize to Mr. Brees, my staff, and anyone else offended by the posting of this image," the restaurant's managing partner Daniel Shalom Schreiber wrote.
>Daniel Shalom Schreiber

Moral of this story: don't go to a restaurant run by the Jew.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 10:36:31 2013 No.5021158 >>5016994 Good thing I only get carry-out. Faggot.

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 10:36:31 2013 No.5021159

>>5021143
you're forgetting how it saves everyone money, bro.

Wages are taxed. Tips are usually not. Therefore both the customer and the waitron makes more money via tipping than by paying the same amount of money in direct wages.

Yes, I realize that servers are supposed to report tips for tax purposes but in practice that doesn't happen. Even if they do, it stills saves money equal to the employer's side of social security/medicare/etc. It's pretty simple math bro.

Though I agree the whole system is silly, it's being willfully ignorant to deny the cost savings.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 10:51:31 2013 No.5021185 I'm not paying $10 for a fucking drink Fuck you

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 11:05:32 2013 No.5021202 >>5021185 No one is forcing you to drink at bars.

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 11:21:31 2013 No.5021223

>>5021159
>get a $2 brownie for every $5 tip you spend
> not even including all the tips you spent becoming a "regular who tips well"
> "no seriously you guys, this works out cheaper. Taxes are all ebul. Haven't you heard about the 300% tax on cookies. Down with taxes lol."

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 11:23:31 2013 No.5021227 ive never tipped anyone, living in australia except indians cos they drive taxis

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 11:25:31 2013 No.5021228 I just tipped the Best Buy delivery monkeys $10 each for delivering my new clothes dryer. u mad?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 11:46:31 2013 No.5021261 >>5021227 by that i mean the 3 taxis ive ever been taken have been driven by indians so im just assuming as i do not look into taxis

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 12:23:31 2013 No.5021333

I've always wondered: why do people even drink in bars or at clubs?

The drinks are marked up for like... literally 400% the price. For 1 drink (lets say a whiskey) at one of my local bars it's 5 fucking dollars. If you pay 20-30 bucks at the liquor store you can get atleast 10-20 drinks out the bottle. Why they fuck do they charge so much?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 12:28:31 2013 No.5021347 >>5021333 Because there aren't any trashy whores around when I drink in the garage.

>>	Feist+Eddie Vedder=Me !A0wItQF88Q Sat Dec 14 12:28:31 2013 No.5021348 Seriously just a dollar a beer isn't good enough? I'm not fucking made of money.

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 12:29:31 2013 No.5021351
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>>5021333

I agree. Who the fuck wants to be drunk around other people anyway? Also every time I order my favorite Imperial IPA by name, the bartender acts rude and says something like we don't have that here. Then they offer me some pleb beer like Blue Moon. I try to explain to them about how it's owned by Coors but they start serving other people. And then to expect me to give them a tip after all that!

Bars are stupid, and only exist because of marketing.

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 12:30:32 2013 No.5021357

>>5021333
Because some people aren't anti-social shut ins and so are willing to subsidize the costs associated with running a club—rent, power, staff, cleaning, etc.—in order to drink around other people, particularly people of the opposite sex who they later go on to have sex with since they aren't fedora wearing aspies. But continue to laugh at all those people buying overpriced drinks at the club while you cry into your single malt alone at home, you fedora wearing aspie.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 12:30:32 2013 No.5021361 >>5021333 Taxes, upkeep, labor cost, liquor license, liquor cost, rent or mortgage on the property itself etc. Same reasons food is more than three times as expensive in a restaurant, only with more government thrown in.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 12:32:41 2013 No.5021365 File: 46 KB, 500x444, horp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5021347 >>5021351 >>5021357 My sides. The devastation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 12:34:41 2013 No.5021373 >>5021357 I too enjoy people of the opposite sex who I go on to have sex with

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 13:16:12 2013 No.5021462

>>5021185
amen. I was at a mall restaurant/ bar waiting for some others who were still shopping( I hate "mall crawling" at thatr point about 4 hours in) whtil you have. a double gin and tonic. Like to have saphire? whats the well drink? gordons. that will be fine, thanks. here ya rre. maybe 2 oz of gin. that will be 14. please.; shocked, I said okay and handed a 10 and a five. well>? well what? were is my dollar change. here it is ya cheap mf.. I would have left the dollar tip had he not been an ass. I could have walked across the road and bought a 5th ( 750 ml) of gordons gin for < 9 bucks. I guess it is well I don't drink much when out. if i am gonna get f'd i'd at least like a kiss. to top it off, the lady
I was with said she ordered a beer in the food court with the kids eating lunch. six bucks for a 12 oz cup of draft beer I know you pay a bit extra,but even the damn airlines or cruse ships don't charge that much, and expect a tip? fo. I am a nice guy and tip well but 100% with this person

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 13:18:12 2013 No.5021469 >>5021373 This thread is hilarious.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 13:21:12 2013 No.5021471 >$2 a drink >$2 a fucking drink i tip a dollar every drink and i feel like a sucker and every bartender that serves me loves me $2 is just why

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 13:33:12 2013 No.5021493 >>5021373 weell you gotta be careful with that. can be a dangerous thing. first thing ya know, you got a house full

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 13:40:12 2013 No.5021506

>Live in a college town
>Tip $1/drink cause im not poor
>Get remembered

Literally its the greatest thing. The other night the guy realized the bottle of rum was almost empty. So he poured the whole thing into my glass. It filled about 60% of the cup. So he then poured a normal serving a rum in from the new bottle, added a splash of coke, got me a little cup of coke, and told me "this one might be kinda stiff".

I tipped $2 on that one though cause I knew I would be done. I will say, you pretty much make your money back tipping $1/drink on mixed drinks cause they always make them stronger.

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 13:45:12 2013 No.5021516

>>5021506
Thisthisthis. I tip $1 for shots/easy drinks, $2 if it's something more complicated. The bartenders at the place I frequent make damn good money off me. I can't count how many times I've gotten free shots or doubles. And zero charge for whatever non alcoholic drink I ask for. Large glass of juice? Comp'd. Faggy crushed fruit iced tea because I'm queer? No problem. No cost.

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 13:47:12 2013 No.5021519

I honestly had no idea you should tip your bartender. All they do is pour you a drink, wow so difficult. Obviously the ones who make a show out of it and do fancy things might deserve a tip, but why should I pay an extra few dollars for someone to pour me a shot of whiskey?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 13:48:12 2013 No.5021521 Run a tab then tip well at the end. Works better than cash.

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 13:50:12 2013 No.5021527

>>5021521
Not always. Tipping as you go clues the bartender in to what kind of customer you are. Tip well and you're likely to get a little something extra, or faster/better service. If you wait to tip at the end, for all they know you might leave them 2 bucks on a 75 dollar tab.

Just stuff I've noticed in my experience with both methods. I get more bang for my buck when I tip em as they go.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 13:52:12 2013 No.5021530 >>5021519 because they get paid $0 and they're giving you the greatest gift of all: booze >but i could just drink at home for less then do that

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 13:54:12 2013 No.5021533 >>5021530 No, they are paid. In America at least, they are required to make at least minimum wage, and to be honest it's a minimum wage worthy job.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 13:54:12 2013 No.5021535 >>5021533 >minimum wage wow so much money

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 13:56:47 2013 No.5021540 >>5021530 also while i'm at it, they're getting paid shit money for dealing with drunk people for a living do you even understand how shitty it has to be to cut someone off

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 13:56:47 2013 No.5021541

>>5021535

In America at least, if someone makes more than you, unless they are extraordinarily wealthy, you are supposed to turn on them and attempt to undermine them in every way possible.

In this fashion you can impress the oligarch class and they will make you one of their own out of gratitude.

>this is what republicunts actually believe

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 13:57:46 2013 No.5021542 >>5021535 It's more than $0 you exaggerating baby. If you want to get paid more, do something worth being paid more.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 13:57:46 2013 No.5021543 >>5021535 Lel I lived off minimum wage for 4 years while in uni. Its not hard >Get a cheap apartment >Don't get cable >Get mediocure internet Rent: $200 Utilities: $60 Other Bills $100 Total: $360 Made: $560

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 13:58:46 2013 No.5021548

>>5021543
>rent: $200
what the FUCK
literally the cheapest i ever heard here in CT is above a bar (heh) split between three people for $350 a month
average is $900 a month
i currently make $2 an hour more than minimum wage and i can't even move out of my parent's house

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 13:58:46 2013 No.5021550 >>5021543 >rent: $200 maybe if you live in Jesusville WV

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 14:00:46 2013 No.5021555 >>5021548 >>5021550 I mean I lived in a 2 room apartment in a complex aptly named "The Crack Den"

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 14:05:46 2013 No.5021573

>>5021555
yeah the problem with cheap apartments in the northeast is if you're white, not only do the ghetto hood people want you dead, the cops want to arrest you because the only reason you're around those apartments is because you're buying drugs

god bless america

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 14:08:46 2013 No.5021577 >>5021573 But im a fat white male who lives in PA. It would like you think everyones out to get you, and have the old fashioned THE PIGS ARE EVIL FUK COPS KILL DER FAMILES >XD!!!!!! thought process.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 14:11:48 2013 No.5021586 >>5021577 Pennsylvania's the south of the north Last time I was there they were hanging fucking confederate flags loud and proud

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 14:22:46 2013 No.5021616 >>5021586 In south central pa and the backwoods near philly, yeah. I still don't know if anyone actually lives in that huge piece of land north of Pittsburgh and south of Erie. Hill people live there probably.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 14:28:04 2013 No.5021637 >>5021573 What about buying a van and living out of it? You won't have a fine kitchen, but you will save money.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 14:30:03 2013 No.5021646 >>5016971 Why would I want to be rembered?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 14:57:03 2013 No.5021716 >>5021543 Do you live in fucking mexico or something? Here it's $1000+ for a one bedroom.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 15:37:03 2013 No.5021841 >>5021716 Are you bragging?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 15:50:03 2013 No.5021883 I don't understand why people give such a shit about tipping. You're already overpaying if you're eating/ordering out, another couple bucks won't break the bank, and it's a nice gesture.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 16:07:03 2013 No.5021950 >>5021883 >I don't understand why people give such a shit about welfare. You're already overpaying if you're paying taxes, another couple bucks won't break the bank, and it's a nice gesture.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 16:12:03 2013 No.5021978 Anyone who goes out to eat often and appreciates good restaurants and bars understands and embraces the tipping system. All the griping autists in this thread likely don't go out often due to a lack of friends and agoraphobia.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 16:14:03 2013 No.5021985 >>5018805 This. 100% this. If you think you should be making like 15-20 dollars an hour for working a near zero training, zero education job...

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 16:16:03 2013 No.5021988 >>5021646 Bartenders can get you laid and make you look cool in front of sexy ladies. They can also do the opposite if you're a cheap prick

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 16:22:55 2013 No.5022009 >>5017083 The drinks are already expensive enough. It's like tip is already included.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 16:24:54 2013 No.5022018 >>5021988 >Bartenders can get you laid Making a show of having a significant disposable income is what gets you laid, not the bartender.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 16:25:54 2013 No.5022021 $1 per drink Unless it's some fancy fucking cocktail, but I am not a woman

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 16:27:55 2013 No.5022025 What reason is there to tip your bartender? Is he making $2 an hour?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 16:30:10 2013 No.5022031 >>5022025 Actually, yes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 16:31:10 2013 No.5022034 >>5022031 Land of the free to screw your employees over.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 16:51:10 2013 No.5022079 I tip based on the speed at which i get the drink, quality of said drink, and if I'm at the bar, any sort of banter or conversation I get. Also, who the hell pays per drink? I'll open up a tab and tip on the total

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 16:57:10 2013 No.5022091

The only bartenders I ever tip are the ones from the high end gastropubs and bars that actually server complicated drinks... You know the ones with good whisky, bitters, and in-house ingredients like syrups, and spices...

If I'm going to a fucking shitty bar that basically gives me a beer and opens it for me then in my eyes you really don't deserve a tip... Because I could have easily reached around and done it myself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 17:11:58 2013 No.5022124 >>5022091 They often don't mind you giving a reach around in lieu of a tip, actually.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 17:22:58 2013 No.5022163 >>5021837 I like how they conveniently left out that servers are compensated if they make less than minimum wage, and how they rarely pay taxes on tips meaning they make more than the average minimum wage earner.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 17:37:58 2013 No.5022222 File: 26 KB, 272x233, 1302471969981.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >don't approve of tipping system >don't want to be an ass though >never go out to eat or drink >stay at home alone and sad >because tipping exists

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 17:49:57 2013 No.5022263 Britfag here. No need for tips. You want to be paid for serving me stick it on my bill.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 17:57:57 2013 No.5022292 >>5021357 >>5021351 >>5021347 I have plenty of friends and can meet women just fine. I'll go to a club and hang out, but not order drinks, that's just fucking stupid. It's such a waste of money.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 18:06:57 2013 No.5022316 >>5016997 I agree. I don't believe in tipping when they are getting shit on tap for you. However if you ask them to mix a drink, especially a more complicated one, then tipping IMO is acceptable.

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 18:12:57 2013 No.5022329

Tab
Evaluate
Pay

The point of tipping is: A reward good service.

If you pay as you go, as to not be ignored/spit on, then you're not tipping, you're paying protection money to a one person mafia.

If the bartender treats you like shit because they're paranoid you might stiff them, then they earn what they receive.

"Assuming you're a douchebag that stiffs hard working folks" is part of "Doing a bad job".

If the bartender actually does their job above and beyond the call, (i.e. earns a tip) then they get one.

In short"
>So much nicer to reward good people for being good, than bribe bad people to be good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 18:14:57 2013 No.5022335 So many cheap asses itt. I bet you wonder why the service always sucks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 18:34:57 2013 No.5022375 >>5018824 i thought us americans all loved and worshipped the rich and thats why we wont 'overthrow capitalism' so which is it, because you people cant make up your mind

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 18:42:57 2013 No.5022398 >>5021837 >let me know i should treat you like shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 18:48:58 2013 No.5022416 >>5017016 >encouraging employee theft

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 18:53:57 2013 No.5022428 >>5018484 you sound like a big douche.

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 18:54:57 2013 No.5022429

>>5022335

Service sucks because the staff usually is the lowest level of society composed of all the people that never 'got it'. They think you, the customer, owe them some sort of compensation for them being unskilled, and/or unmotivated.

The kinds of people that don't really know how to 'work'. Instead they feel a sense of entitlement based on the fact they have a shit life (of their own doing), and someone (other than them) needs to pay for it. God forbid they EARN their money.

It's an easy job, and it's paid accordingly.

The price is set at a point to include everything you're getting. You're getting edibles, and deferring cleanup. You're paying 5x - 20x as much for atmosphere, and so you don't have to cook or clean.

If the service is good, it's optional to reward the persons responsible. If the service sucks, there should be no obligation.

Tipping for the sake of tipping, or "social norms" spits in the face of the people that actually DO do a good job. Reward bad behavior, you'll just foster more shitty service from someone incapable of 'getting it'. Reward good work, you enable someone that's good and 'gets it' to get out and move up.

So please tip, but only tip those that deserve it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 18:59:57 2013 No.5022438 >>5021223 Are you being facetious or are you really this retarded?

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 19:21:58 2013 No.5022497

>>5021540
>>5021533
I have to say based off of what >>5021516 said, tipping $1 on simple drinks is a great thing if you dont always order draft beer. That being said, 2$ for all drinks is crazy fucked, and unless there are more than 2 types of alcohol involved in making the drink i think it makes sense to stick with 1$

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 19:46:57 2013 No.5022565 >>5016994 Ooh I'm scared of a loser with a dead end job

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 19:56:57 2013 No.5022597 >>5021202 No one is forcing him to tip either

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 19:58:57 2013 No.5022601 File: 537 KB, 629x466, 1386598796116.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >be British >tip nothing >only "keep the change" kind of deal

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 19:59:57 2013 No.5022607 >>5021462 >>5018696 Man your shit is hard to understand. You should green text or shut up

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 20:00:57 2013 No.5022611 >>5022601 >pay higher base food costs dining out to cover higher wages >not able to reward good service or punish bad service >pay just as much to get worse service The Muslims can't Sharia your retarded asses soon enough.

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 20:02:57 2013 No.5022616

>>5022429
You've obviously never done the job. It's not easy, standing up for eight hours alone is a bitch. Add to that assholes like you and so many others in this thread and you have a job that sucks. I did it for six years while in school and made enough money I only had to work two days a week and still had time to study and go out. Plus it got me laid like no ones business. You are the worst king of customer, one that thinks that you need to be the center of someone's universe before you deem them worthy of your $0.25 "tip". And that's why you wait, and that's why your drinks suck. Why don't you try going to a bar and not thinking you're superior to everyone working there?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 20:03:57 2013 No.5022618 >>5022611 At least our waiters/resses aren't entitled as fuck.

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 20:26:37 2013 No.5022661

>>5022616

See there's where you're wrong.
It's the very fact that I worked those jobs that I know what I'm talking about. All those pissant little kids saying their job is hard 'cause they have to STAND for 8 hours.

Boo
Fucking
Hoo
...

8 hours of "hanging out"... Free or severely discounted meal, most of the time free drinks. Guaranteed breaks. Busy, meet new people every day. Easy to get hours covered, as easy to pick up extra hours. Overtime. As you said, get laid. And you threw that last part in an argument trying to refute what I said. (Lrn2argue)

I've also worked demolition: STANDING Back-breaking work, shit pay, long hours (i.e. 'til the job's done). No tips. But I don't have to put up with assholes, and I get my exercise. (to be honest though I'm sure some of them were assholes, but it's hard to be a dick to a 6'3" sweaty man with a pickaxe. Still no tips though.) No sex... Covered in harmful materials all the time. Probably have cancer I don't know about yet. But it was fun. Hell of a lot harder than being a server/prep/cook.

I've done database cleanup and maintenance.
No social interaction, sterile/static environment. Had to think all the time. I got to talk to people that actually think. When they weren't busy, and they were always busy. No job security, no overtime. Working 10-18 hours a day, getting paid for 8. Thx salary... I got paid MORE working at a coffee shop. And had a fuckton more fun in my life. Even though I had to STAND for 8 hours and deal with assholes.

I've been a machinist. Pupping zits that end up being metal shards that worked their way into my skin... Going deaf from machines... STANDING for 8-9 hours, covered in grease terrified of the guy next to me that doesn't understand a thing about safety, or he's Clint fucking Eastwood, with the machines.

I've done a lot more. But saying I've never done the job? No my dear,you've never had a job.

That's the self-entitlement I'm talking about. >"It's hard"
No. No it's not.

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 22:14:54 2013 No.5022865

>>5022616
>standing up for eight hours alone is a bitch
Welcome to most unskilled jobs, do the huys in warehouses who pick and package stuff moan about not getting a tip? Do the people who pack boxes of food items in a factory for 12 hours standing get a fucking tip?
Stop your self entitled bullshit, you have no idea what a hard fucking job is.

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 22:15:54 2013 No.5022868

>>5022616
>It's not easy, standing up for eight hours alone is a bitch. Add to that assholes like you and so many others in this thread and you have a job that sucks.
>I did it for six years while in school and made enough money I only had to work two days a week and still had time to study and go out. Plus it got me laid like no ones business

lol @ these two sentiments being literally right next to each other

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 22:27:54 2013 No.5022891

>>5022865
>I'm capable of something so everybody is.

Man, I would love to have never gotten my knee destroyed by a truck running a red light.

You obviously have no idea how hard it is to get a job when you can only stand for few hours and only with a hinged brace.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 23:34:54 2013 No.5023108 >>5017016 >5 dollars for a cookie or brownie that's considered theft in some countries

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 23:37:48 2013 No.5023116 >>5022661 i think i love you. in a manly kind of way. i'd buy you a fuckin beer for that post

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 23:40:48 2013 No.5023129 it never ceases to amaze me how angry blue collar types get when another blue collar type threatens to make as much money as them. why don't you fags stop fighting and try to collaborate instead?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 23:40:48 2013 No.5023132 >>5016971 >dem dollars One drink? Like a complicated drink requiring years of study in an alcoholic monastery... or they just handed you a beer or poured a shot in a glass?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 23:41:48 2013 No.5023134 >>5023129 Union communist detected.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 23:42:48 2013 No.5023141 >>5016971 >tipping someone for giving you an overpriced beer

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 00:00:48 2013 No.5023203

>>5023129

Quite the blanket statement you got there chief.

Care to tell us what to collaborate on? Mayhaps a course of action?
An idea or two?
At the least, state the problem?

Or are you happy saying empty things that might sound like they're smart?

As to be neither ironic nor hypocritical, I'll start.

The problem is as simple as believing there's a "them". There isn't. The problem is us; and that we think there's a "them". Now we need to work on that. What can "you" do?

Not some hippy shit on a 'change the world' level. No, just something simple. Are you possibly spending a little less time bettering yourself? Spending too much time making yourself 'feel happy' rather than making yourself actually happy?

You call these customers "assholes". And they drive you crazy, when they should be sources of amusement. Markers of what you're not. They're not a "them". That's giving them too much credit. Do you even remember the FIRST asshole you had to deal with? Or the next? Any from a month ago? They're not even there.

But that anger?
>That's you.

Your stories should start with "Me and my friend(s)....", not "Some asshole(s) at work....".

It's a shit life concentrating on the negative all the time. Trust me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 00:06:48 2013 No.5023229 MUHHHHHHHHHHHH TIP MY FUCKING TIP MUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH TIP MUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH TIP TIPPY TIPPY WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH BABY NO TIP WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH BABY NO TIP MUH FUCKING TIP

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 01:23:06 2013 No.5023419 >>5022891 And yet there's people with no legs at all that do so much more than you. Not trying to be callous, but come on. You were the one that weaponized your weakness. Of course it's going to be hard to get a job when you bring that with you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 02:11:57 2013 No.5023509 >tipping someone more than 2 dollars to pour beer from a spout into a mug Why

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 02:44:57 2013 No.5023544 >>5023141 Don't go out if you can't afford it.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 02:53:57 2013 No.5023553

>Friends like to go to bars and buy $4 budlights
>Why.jpg
>Watch the game and shit, cmon and join us
>I have a bigger tv at home and have better beer cold and cheap
>You'll never meet a girl at home
>I don't want to meet a girl who goes to bars often and all the girls at the bar you go to are shitty
Why is it so hard for people to understand?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 11:08:17 2013 No.5024287 >>5022661 screencapping for future tipping threads

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 11:24:33 2013 No.5024330

>>5016971
>$2 tip for one drink
>not $5 for a few or $10 after getting sloshed
the fuck? if i did $2 per drink i would be out like $20. fuck that, i might if they were getting me drinks constantly but most bars i go to they just go off and do their own thing for 15 minutes and then get me another

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 11:29:33 2013 No.5024334

>>5022661
>Pupping zits that end up being metal shards that worked their way into my skin
yeesh never thought of that happening. When I worked in the bush I would pop zits that ended up being rose thorns or entire spruce or juniper needles that somehow got entirely into my body.

It's funny how people think being a server is back-breaking and can't fathom what other jobs people have done. Self-absorbed people don't have the capacity for outward thinking.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 11:31:33 2013 No.5024339 >>5023553 >being an antisocial autist whatever man

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 11:37:34 2013 No.5024351

>>5023553
I know what you mean, but if you are a young man you should make an effort to go out sometimes. Otherwise the day will come when your friends may stop inviting you to anything.

It's more of a change of scenery and people than anything. I don't go to bars anymore, but that was the only good thing about it. Loud music, drunk retards, overpriced alcohol, etc. sucks, but sometimes the night could be fun.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 11:39:33 2013 No.5024356

>>5023553
So that's all bars are to you? Sports and picking up girls? Good to see you buy into stereotypes so easily.

It's a social experience that transcends gender. You can make new buddies there. Male or female. You can learn new things from the people around you.

If that's not your cup of tea, fine. But there are far more reasons to hang out at a bar than overpriced beer.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 11:42:33 2013 No.5024361 >>5024356 >You can make new buddies there. Male or female. lol. this is pathetic. I'd bet my last dollar you're a woman.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 11:43:33 2013 No.5024363 >>5024361 >implying girls on internet There's literally nothing in that post to imply female.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 11:54:05 2013 No.5024385 >>5018553 This here is the smartest post in this fucking thread and no one even caught it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 11:55:06 2013 No.5024387 >>5024385 Samefag as fuck

Op the fggt Sun Dec 15 12:04:05 2013 No.5024411

>>5016971
I was a cook at a bowling ally. If I was a really a "cook" op\r not is up to you but, I remeber that we'd be swamped.And the bar would sell food without telling us. Essentially making a VERY upset customer. They also would take the money the customer would give as a tip for the person who slaved away to make their fuckin party platter. We never would get it. Ever. They never cleaned up after themselves, that was "our job" at the end of the night. And WE not THEM were in charge of moving the booze from the truck to the cooler. So. In my experience, bartenders are total cunts. I will not tip someone who just pours me a drink. They make a wage AND most go home with 100plus bucks in their pocket. You can pour me a drink or hand me a bottle without bitching.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:07:06 2013 No.5024417

>>5024411
Why wouldn't you be a bartender then? The cook job sounds like a shit deal. Your bartenders obviously had a cushy job that paid way more. Logic dictates you would want that job instead. What is it about bartending you don't like, that kept you from pursuing that position?

I'm genuinely curious, because clearly you believe there are negatives associated with the job. Perhaps those negatives are what make a bartender's job worthy of more tips than a cook.

>>	Op the fggt Sun Dec 15 12:09:05 2013 No.5024422 >>5024417 I was 17 at the time. It was my first job.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:11:05 2013 No.5024430 >>5024361 That was probably the least pathetic post I've ever read with regards to bars/clubs on 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:26:06 2013 No.5024468 >>5024363 except for all the points about gender. You never ever see a man making those points(unless he is either a closet homosexual or an actual homosexual)

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:27:05 2013 No.5024471 File: 56 KB, 225x220, 1374546980206.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5024387 >two days apart >samefag as fuck stupid as fuck

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:31:05 2013 No.5024481

I went to a bar in DC where they had 25 cent drafts one night. We all paid with quarters for each drink and after 3-4 he got buttmad and wouldnt pour us anymore because he said we werent going to tip him. We actually were at the end because it made no sense to tip after each 25 cent beer but after his hissy fit we all just left. There were like 6 of us and we were gonna tip like 3-4 dollars each.

top kek

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:34:05 2013 No.5024489 >>5024471 >implying you don't post every day

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:52:05 2013 No.5024535 >>5024489 >implying I'm me

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:54:05 2013 No.5024539 >>5024481 WHERE? dcfag here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:55:05 2013 No.5024548 >>5024539 some goth bar in adams morgan. this was in 2009 though

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:57:45 2013 No.5024552 >>5024548 I bet you all looked like poorfag students. Kids get treated like shit by default in restaurants and bars because 9 times out of 10 they don't tip. It's the same with blacks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 12:58:45 2013 No.5024554 >>5024552 Probably, we were all 21-22 at the time, but werent poorfags. Jokes on him for judging us all as such.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 13:00:42 2013 No.5024563 >>5024552 was Asylum. Looks like its closed

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 13:10:42 2013 No.5024596
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>>5024554
He shouldn't have thrown the hissy fit, just moved you to the bottom of the "wait on asap" list. And there's no joke on him - he's playing the percentages. College students, some minorities, old people, etc., get waited on more poorly b/c they often shit tippers. You give your A-game to the types that tip better. Yeah, you miss out on the few exceptions, and occasionally the supposed good tippers don't pan out, but what are you gonna do? ComEd doesn't give a rat's ass that you hustled some beers to be nice, they want cash.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 14:43:35 2013 No.5024895 >mfw cosy pubs where you meet your neighbours and friends, the beer is reasonably priced and you can just stay and chat to whoever wanders in Why can't your Bar Culture emulate this Murrica, it seems like the way to go

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 14:45:34 2013 No.5024901

>>5022616
Fuck off.

In high school and into college, I worked as a Dishwasher/Pizza Chef and later as a Deli Clerk at a nearby supermarket. That's food service. I'm still dealing with plenty of assholes and entitled customers. And you know what? I made minimum wage and never felt like anybody should tip me. I was in the kitchen making platters for catering, making their sandwiches in the deli, and making them pizzas from scratch. On top of that, I was doing all kinds of shit which waiters never have to deal with, like trash duties, skewering raw chicken, and degreasing the fucking rotisserie. No tips.

Then, my summer job in college was doing manual labor on a farm. Almost 50 hours a week outside doing literally backbreaking work in unsafe conditions for a boss who was actually insane for minimum wage. Getting sunburned, eaten by mosquitoes, whatever. But you know what? I enjoyed that job for what it was and made friends with my coworkers to make it bearable.

Not trying to outwhine anybody, but why waiters think they're entitled to tips is beyond me. I'm not totally against tipping, either, but when it's expected because "Oh my God, think of the poor waiters," they can fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 14:51:34 2013 No.5024923 >>5024895 that doesn't sound that far off. Obviously college bars which most people on 4chan frequent aren't really like that, but there are a lot of places in america just like that

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 16:50:16 2013 No.5025174 >>5018524 >implying that any waiter/waitress only makes minimum wage from their tips >implying that any waiter/waitress would bother showing up for work if they only made minimum wage and got no tips

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:08:02 2013 No.5025218 >>5018560 being this beta

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:49:32 2013 No.5025313 >>5016971 #handoutsforlosers

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 17:57:32 2013 No.5025344 >>5016971 >tipping $5 for one drink Nigro please. You stand there and pour a few liquids into a glass. You get $1 for your 30 seconds of work.

Anonymous Sun Dec 15 18:01:32 2013 No.5025359

>>5018820
if you'd bother reading a book. the majority of **wealthy** Americans make their own money, through personal businesses.

what none of the retards who want to raise minimum wage realize, is that businesses will just not hire as many workers, OVERWORK, the ones they keep, small, local businesses will be impossible to start up with now tremendously increased wages to pay.

it isn't anyone elses fault you didn't think to get training for something actually in demand instead of "following ur draemsz"

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 15 18:06:32 2013 No.5025373 >>5024489 >calls out samefags posting 2 days apart I bet you are the guy that says "copypasta! copypasta" in every thread consisting of 100+ words.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 03:13:01 2013 No.5026709 >>5017045 >>5017051 as a Kentuckian this concerns me

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 05:37:12 2013 No.5026909

>>5024468
I completely disagree. As a frequent traveler, expat, and someone who's generally bad at keeping long-term friends, I'd say the non-sexual company I've found in bars and other drinking venues is fantastic. I've met a lot of people from other countries this way, all who have a story to tell and will let it loose freely due to their inebriation. Similarly, I feel welcome to tell my stories, and I have an open audience for that shit. Meeting strangers while drunk for the purpose of camaraderie has always been one of my favorite pastimes, and it has far more value than your average one-night stand.

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:31:32 2013 No.5026973

>nearly 2014
>STILL not giving your server the helpful tip that they are legally obliged to be paid minimum wage, and if they don't make up to that from tips then their employer must add on the difference

Tip if you want to get better service, tip if you thought the service was excellent, tip if you're hoping it will make the server suck your dick, whatever. However, "the poor servers get under minimum wage without tips!" is factually incorrect, and anyone tipping because they think it's true is wasting their money.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 08:43:06 2013 No.5027107 >>5017061 Most jobs where tipping is the norm, people are paid significantly less than minimum wage. For example, where I live minimum wage is about $11/h but serveres get paid about $8/h

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 09:57:28 2013 No.5027227

>>5027107
That even seems a bit high. When I worked as a waiter my base salary was $2/hr and on a busy night I'd make anywhere from $10-20/hr. Mind you this is at a hibachi grill, where I didn't even have to bring entrees out and the cheapest dish was about $16.

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 10:01:28 2013 No.5027229

>>5018525

I used to deliver for a summer in college. Drivers talk, and addresses stand out. Especially when you're stiffed on a tip.

You can pay the listed price and go to the store your own fucking self, or order delivery and give the driver a few bucks. Otherwise you're a fuckhead and I wouldn't blame the driver for keying your car or shitting in your mailbox or something.

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 10:05:29 2013 No.5027239

>>5017083

You don't tip for the drink, you tip so the bartender remembers you and serves you first when there's a pack of thirsty douchebros around the bar.

Or because you're a decent human being and not someone who takes some principled stance over not tipping a dollar or two.

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 10:14:45 2013 No.5027256
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I'm a bartender at an Irish Pub in Germany. To me, tipping definitely is not an obligation since I get paid relatively well (8€/h). However, if you're a regular at a place, I would still recommend you to tip the bartender and just be a nice guy, as in show basic manners.

Little things like saying please and thanks, looking into the other person's eyes when you talk to them, no snipping fingers or whistling. Sure, you would still get served if you did all these things, but when the bar gets super busy, you will more than likely be the last one being served.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 10:16:45 2013 No.5027262 File: 20 KB, 151x210, 1363106105933.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5017003 >ordering pizza on thanksgiving You tell me who's worse in that situation. At least he was working.

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 10:41:01 2013 No.5027312

>>5025359
>businesses will hire fewer Americans
>will overwork their existing employees
>the market will become dominated by large corporations as local businesses fail

Gee, I sure am glad nothing like this has been happening over the last several decades!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 10:54:01 2013 No.5027336 >>5027256 >looking into the other person's eyes when you talk to them, no snipping fingers or whistling Oh god, I have a coworker who acts like this at restaurants. It's so embarrassing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 10:58:02 2013 No.5027341 >>5027256 Cheers, I always tip the Irish bartender, not only because it's the right thing to do, but you Irish like blowing things up more than us Americans do and I prefer not to be blown up! verif: engleyn scenes

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 10:59:02 2013 No.5027345 >>5027256 I work in a kitchen but rarely go into the bar or have time to talk to waiters, what is a polite way to get attention, can you raise your hand or is looking at them enough?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 11:10:01 2013 No.5027373 >>5027312 exactly, we should really be trying to decrease the cost of being productive in america, not increase it

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 11:23:07 2013 No.5027395

What kind of world are we living in where if you don't tip 50% or more of the cost of an alcoholic beverage your a dick? Because bartenders have it so hard? Plenty of people have it hard and they don't get tips. Tip the fucking mexican mcdonalds workers if you're going to tip bartenders.

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 11:23:07 2013 No.5027396

>>5027341
Cheers, I'm German though.

>>5027345
Yeah, if it's a good bartender, he should notice you looking or raising your hand quickly. On a busy night, especially when you're standing behind people sitting at the bar, it can happen that the bartender doesn't see you right away. Then I would recommend to say something to get his attention but still act friendly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 11:29:01 2013 No.5027405 >get charged $4 for a $0.80 beer >feel you need to spend MORE no, fuck you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 11:46:01 2013 No.5027425 >>5017016 I think she thinks you are a health inspector. She wants a D rating.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 11:49:01 2013 No.5027428 >>5027373 GTFO! Life's not about being a productive little battery for the government. Go back to North Korea and commie land you freak job!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 11:51:01 2013 No.5027431 >>5027425 hahaha! 8======D

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 11:59:10 2013 No.5027450

>>5027428
you misunderstood my point. I was just commenting on how fucking dumb it would be to raise minimum when the economy is having such a hard time as it is. Liberals have a really tough time understanding economics due to their tendency to be emotional rather than logical

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 12:12:09 2013 No.5027482 >>5018805 I got so much better service in Korea from waiters not expecting a tip than I ever did in the states where they a tip is expected for them doing the bare minimum in their job

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 12:33:25 2013 No.5027519 Well, I'd rather tip a bartender than people who just transport what I'm consuming.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 12:40:25 2013 No.5027528 >>5017063 >show up to bar shitfaced drunk >get denied entry by doorman

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 12:45:26 2013 No.5027535

tipping started as rewarding the server for going beyond expectations
now it's expected and factored into your pay and even taxed, which is complete bullshit

I was a pizza delivery driver and the only way I made money was from the tips
if you didnt tip me I would remember the address
I wouldnt fuck with your food I'd either let someone else take the order or I'd deliver to you last, and eat some of your fries or calamari

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 12:52:25 2013 No.5027540 >>5016971 >Tipping for drinks WHAT. Does this really happen in America?

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 13:04:25 2013 No.5027564

>>5027450
It's not even economic policy, it's also basic human nature they fail to understand.

Companies have been formed and molded to operate with the #1 goal being "secure a large profit margin for shareholders" (if a publicly traded company). How they go about this is irrelevant, and often short term gains are seen as more beneficial than long-term.

If you raise minimum wage, you can't expect this level of trained and ingrained "greed" to suddenly flip to altruism. Companies will figure out how to pinch their pennies. They've done it before. When minimum was raised (incrementally) from $5.15 to $7.25, the company I worked for (A chain of specialty clothing) had their accounting dept working non stop until they figured that slightly more employees, working at severely reduced hours would pay out less than keeping a steady number of employees with an increased wage and full-time benefits. It happened then, and it will happen again if the minimum is increased, especially by such a huge margin as McJobbers are asking for.

Less hours, coupled with a quickly reacting market price, means you will actually get LESS for your dollar than you already are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 13:21:25 2013 No.5027614 >>5027540 yes, but I have never heard of tipping more than $1 for a drink

Anonymous Tue Dec 17 06:57:03 2013 No.5029544

>>5027229
>everyone who doesn't tip 2 bucks or more is kept on a list among the store
>there are that few people that don't tip you "reasonably"
>earn as much as you do and still are angry at customers for not paying an unlisted delivery fee

how about you key your boss's car for not paying you to use your own car and gas?

Anonymous Tue Dec 17 07:04:03 2013 No.5029556

>>5027239
>Or because you're a decent human being
You're assuring someone who does very little work and reaps many benefits for untrained work gets paid for providing a luxury that leads often to health problems, bad behavior and crime gets paid more than people in the same level of work who provide necessary services, and you're doing this by exercising either your sense of economic elitism above others or financial frivolity among people of comparable incomes, and you're doing this in order to get put in priority, meaning that people with less money or better financial priorities get screwed. Please tell me where the "decent human being" aspect comes into play.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 17 07:18:50 2013 No.5029568 >>5029556 >bartender >untrained Sure thing chief

Anonymous Tue Dec 17 07:22:50 2013 No.5029572

>>5029568
that is the truth. if you're talking hotel staff, classy shit, alright, those guys know how to turn a glass. most bartenders are hired just because they know the right people or otherwise have the personality. for the four years I lived in New Orleans, I never once was served by a bartender who could mix an IBA without a handbook, and if it required any intricacy at all they fucked it up. the only training they get is experience, because there are very few customers who desire very few cocktails anywhere that require any intricacy; most people are in a bar for a beer, shot, or jack and coke

Anonymous Tue Dec 17 07:55:09 2013 No.5029590

>>5029572
Wtf are you ordering that a bartender had to look it up? In NOLA none the less. Every bar I've ever worked at quizzes you on drinks as part of the hiring process. Let me guess, you pick some obscure cocktail with out of the ordinary ingredients and then pitch a "wow duh untrained bartender is a idiot" fit when they have to look it up or tell you they can't make it.

Anonymous Tue Dec 17 08:01:07 2013 No.5029594

>>5029590
I'm not that guy but that was my experience as well.

went to new Orleans looking forward to cocktails. was shocked by the poor excuse for cocktail culture.

in after a sazerac is an obscure fedora drink. it's like you people never drank anything other than cranberry and vodka juice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 17 08:02:07 2013 No.5029595 >>5029590 yes, the b-52 is such a hipster drink

Anonymous Tue Dec 17 09:28:21 2013 No.5029641
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>Having to bribe people so they don't spit on your food
>Having to bribe people so they serve you a decent amount of liquor
>Having to bribe people so they even keep acknowledging you
>Having to constantly consider the subtle social nuances you communicate to the server through the arbitrarily established bribe percentages that differ for each seperate type of service
>Finaly succumb to the social pressure and start bribing. Now I keep getting extra "free" shit I never asked for like cookies added to my order

Man I am glad that I live in a country that doesn't have so much circuitous bullshit surrounding simple services.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 17 20:55:35 2013 No.5030802 >>5021159 dat tipscience. see: >>5018604

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 17 21:13:30 2013 No.5030829 >>5017061 Jobs like bartenders, waitresses, delivery drivers, and similar do not pay minimum wage in most places because customers are expected to give a tip. The tip is seen as a motivator for the employee to work harder and impress the customer.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 17 22:18:20 2013 No.5030960 >>5030829 >don't tip your lawyer >he's welcome to sleep through your case and ensure your guilt >don't tip your teacher >he will never try to teach you anything >don't tip your doctor >say goodbye to your heart

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 17 22:27:07 2013 No.5030991 I tip $1 for every couple drinks and I get preferential treatment from all the bartenders at the bar I frequent, your picture is shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 17 22:30:07 2013 No.5031002 >>5030991 which college town do you live in?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 17 22:33:07 2013 No.5031013 >>5027107 >this shit >again >literally the post after I explained why this is bullshit see >>5026973

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 17 22:34:07 2013 No.5031020 >>5030829 >Jobs like bartenders, waitresses, delivery drivers, and similar do not pay minimum wage Wrong.

Anonymous Wed Dec 18 01:06:01 2013 No.5031366

>>5022661

Your jobs sound easy actually, especially if all those jobs don't involve interacting with the actual customer.

>Easy to get hours covered

No.

>I've done a lot more. But saying I've never done the job? No my dear,you've never had a job.

Not that anon, but have you ever been a server?

Anonymous Wed Dec 18 01:38:34 2013 No.5031395

>>5022661
>That's the self-entitlement I'm talking about. >"It's hard"
>No. No it's not.

It's not hard. It's stressful, especially if you serve in a busy restaurant. It's a job that relies on customer interaction. Not alot of workers would put up with being yelled at or publicly insulted. You're getting paid $3.25 per hour, and since tipping is a gratuity thing, you have to serve over the guest plus some. It is an easy job for people with extroverted personalities, not so much for the quiet college students. If anything, their preferred job would be anything outside of customer interaction.

Jobs don't have to be physically demanding to be hard. If your dealing with people its going to be a bit difficult.

Anonymous Wed Dec 18 01:43:34 2013 No.5031401

Should I have tipped?

-Went to a burger diner, paid and ordered at the cashier after waiting in line. Seated self.
-Waitress delivered our meal and milkshake
-I stood up and walked to the topping bar to dress burger
-I poured my own water from the fountain dispenser
-Left baskets on table

I didn't tip, didn't seem like a tipping situation.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 18 01:56:35 2013 No.5031417 File: 81 KB, 446x384, 1386093833324.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5031366 >ONLY CUSTOMER SERVICE IS HARD

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 18 02:04:39 2013 No.5031427 Are you asking if you should tip for eating inside a fast food joint? Even Taco Bell delivers the food to my table if I eat inside.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 18 02:12:34 2013 No.5031434 >>5031427 It was a regular style burger joint, not fast food.

Anonymous Wed Dec 18 02:20:08 2013 No.5031447

>>5018524
This isn't entirely true. It may be, for large corporate chains who have contracts for very low prices from producers or providers.
For smaller, mom and pop, or independent/local chains, getting such a contract is impossible. A restaurant I work as a manager in spends easily 35-40% of all sales directly into labor costs (meals had by staff included). Then another 25-30% goes to the food costs and another 30% or so goes to maintenance, equipment, utilities, and leasing. The restaurants that charge more than $12.00 for an average meal are making a ton of money.

Also: if you were to have a server not get tipped at all while working, he would still be given minimum wage, of $7.25/hr here in Texas. This raises costs quite drastically and the money you paid, meal and tip, would just be put together if server wages were raised to minimum, no tips.

tl;dr: Small restaurants in America need tips to keep costs to consumers low. If you want to raise minimum wage on servers and eliminate tips, expect massive increase in the price of your meal. Non-alcoholic rinks, however, will not change.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 18 02:37:10 2013 No.5031476 >>5031447 >40 >30 >30 >100% where is their profit margin?

Anonymous Wed Dec 18 03:55:13 2013 No.5031569

>>5031366

>Asks if he's been a server.

First line says he's done that job and and then some.

Now. I could understand if it was buried in a wall of text. But... Yeah.

When you're the kind of person defending a point. I hope you realize you do more damage than good.

Anonymous Wed Dec 18 04:04:14 2013 No.5031584

>>5031395

Again:
N O O N E E A R N S B E L O W M I N I M U M W A G E

Let me put it to you like this. If there's no customers. As in Zero, the symbol for null and void, do you know the minimum amount you're legally allowed to be paid per hour in any and all states in the United States of America?

Here's a hint:

It starts with MINIMUM
and ends with WAGE

Give up? It's called the Minimum Wage.
It's quite the coincidence considering, IT'S THE MINIMUM FUCKING WAGE.

Carry on.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 18 04:29:46 2013 No.5031600 >>5031447 >tips keep costs low >implying the amount of tipping that gives waitresses 10-30 bucks an hour less than offsets the cost of raising wage 4-5 bucks an hour you could not be dumber

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 18 04:33:45 2013 No.5031604 >>5031584 ...servers have a different (lower) minimum wage

Anonymous Wed Dec 18 04:36:45 2013 No.5031610

>>5031395
When i was younger, i worked as a childcarer during summer. We had at least 8 young children/person to take care of, all between 3-5 years, from 7:00 to 18:00, with very few pause time (30 min ?), being treated as shit, paid minimum, no tip, and parents don't care if you have a lot of kids, they only care about their own child. And i wouldn't even expect a tip.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 18 04:47:45 2013 No.5031618 >>5031604 And if they do not meet that wage via tips. Do you know what they get paid? No matter what, they end up with the minimum wage.

Indigestible Man !!6tnyV17aQmN Wed Dec 18 04:56:45 2013 No.5031621

Depends entirely on the bartender. If I like the way I am treated, I tip generously. If I'm treated just like an hobo, which deserves alot of respect himself, I will tip jack shit.

I actually got angry when I was in Venice, at some cafe, and the waiter had the nerve to add the tip to the bill, after making me wait for 15 minutes, in order to take my order. A 5 euro tip, on a 21 euro order.

On the other end of the scale, I went one night at some modest pizza place, but great place nonetheless. The waitress was so nice to me and my gf, we ended up tipping 30% of the bill...

Greatest tip I took part at ? 20 euro tip, on a 45 euro bill. May not sound much, but a coffee is about 1.10 eurocents, same for soda, and tea costs more, at a great 1.40 eurocents.

It was quite an order...

The conclusion : Treat the customer well, and you shall be tipped. Treat the costumer like shit, and you shall not be tipped.

Anonymous Wed Dec 18 05:05:45 2013 No.5031628

>>5031610

It's shit like this (coupled with all the morons in this thread) that makes me wish teachers were both paid as much as doctors, and received as much training.

Fuck tips.
The people in charge of shaping the brains of children? Yeah, we pay them shit. They need a little bit more than a tip.

Anonymous Wed Dec 18 05:27:48 2013 No.5031645

>>5031628
You get what you pay for, dumbass. If the parents wanted to pay more they could have done so, and probably would have gotten someone who took better care of the kids. As it was, they had someone to keep the kids from setting each other on fire for most of the day, usually.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 18 05:36:48 2013 No.5031651 >>5031645 Thank you so much for illustrating my point.

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