/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.4874156]

/ck/, why are American's so obsessed with mixing sweet with savoury?

90% of the time it doesn't work.

[Anonymous No.4874158]

>>4874156
90% of the time you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about

[Anonymous No.4874161]

>>4874156
>> %90
>> not an exaggeration

i have the sweet off to the side so if any wants to add some to their savory, not just lumping it all together like what some dirty multicurturalised european thinks

[Anonymous No.4874162]

Why are non-Americans on the internet obsessed with America?

100% of the time its shitposting.

[Anonymous No.4874167]

90% of the time it does work

[Anonymous No.4874171]

>>4874161

Im not European and I wouldn't eat pancake's with sausages and maple syrup, nor would I eat doughnut burgers. That's just fucked up.

[Anonymous No.4874174]

>>4874162
>>4874167
90% of stats are bullshit.
Except that 9 out of 10 people enjoy gangrape

[Anonymous No.4874176]

>>4874171
>>I wouldn't eat pancake's with sausages and maple syrup

[Anonymous No.4874180]

/ck/, why are the outlanders incapable of realizing how delicious sweet and savory foods are?

[Anonymous No.4874184]

>>4874171
>not rolling pancake covered in syrup around sausage link and eating it like a taquito

[Anonymous No.4874186]

>>4874180

Yuck. Whoever decided to put pineapple on pizza ought to be shot.

[Anonymous No.4874194]

>>4874186
Ehh if you've never had it, it's really not as bad as it looks. Don't get me wrong, I don't order it...but if it's there for the taking, I have taken.

[Anonymous No.4874195]

>>4874156
because its yummy.

>>4874186
pineapple on ham is a classic so why not do it to a ham and bacon covered pizza?

[Anonymous No.4874196]

>90% of the time it doesn't work.

wow interesting opinion

[Anonymous No.4874199]

>>4874186

[Anonymous No.4874200]

>>4874194

Of course i've had it, who hasn't?

[Anonymous No.4874202]

>>4874199

That's fine. Roast Ham is meant to be slightly sweet, especially the outer layer. Would you drench that in tomato sauce and cheese though?

[Anonymous No.4874205]

>>4874200
I didn't have it for a long time, so I'm sure there is someone out there..especially in countries outside the US.

>>4874202
Not drench, but I bet there is a cheese out there that could match it.

[Anonymous No.4874218]

>not liking sweet and savory

[Anonymous No.4874221]

>>4874218

It's literally just an American thing.

[Anonymous No.4874227]

>>4874221
>American
>Implying Italians don't do it all the time

[Anonymous No.4874234]

>>4874221
You know what else is an American thing?
Patches on vests of bikers to show what they've eaten.
These are factual:
[Golden Wings] - Participation in group sex involving more than six brothers.
[White Wings] - Performing oral sex on a white woman.
[Black Wings] - Performing oral sex on a black woman.
[Yellow Wings] - Performing oral sex on an Asian woman.
[Red Wings] - Performing oral sex on a menstruating woman.
[Green Wings] - Performing oral sex on a woman infested with insects (crabs, scabies, etc.).
[Purple Wings] - Performing oral sex on a dead woman.
[Brown Wings] - Performing oral-anal on a woman.
[Blue Wings] - Having sex with a policewoman.

>America
>good taste

[Anonymous No.4874237]

>>4874171
>I wouldn't eat pancake's with sausages and maple syrup

Well you're certainly not American either.

[Anonymous No.4874239]

>>4874221
You are literally the biggest idiot allowed access to the internet.

[Anonymous No.4874241]

>>4874234
I got my red wings in high school

[Anonymous No.4874242]

European here.

Roast chicken with pears, peaches or applesauce is exceedingly common, and I think it works just fine.

Pancakes with sausages sounds vile to me, though, unless we're talking buckwheat pancakes.

[Anonymous No.4874244]

Because we're too busy futilely futhering the universe to give a single fuck about your culture while you're futiley stopping us from futhering the world because we don't give a single fuck about your culture.


But considering this is a food board, we do have 5000 restaurants that do a decent rendition of your cuisine in every big city, in case that's what you were worried about.

Okay, now shut the fuck up and stop asking.

[Anonymous No.4874246]

>>4874234
>bikers
>all of america

You are a special kind of retard aren't you?

[Anonymous No.4874251]

>>4874234
[White Wings] - Check
[Yellow Wings] - Check
[Red Wings] - Check

Any other ones except for the police officer is just naaaastay

[Anonymous No.4874252]

quince mash/ food with chicken mmm

[Anonymous No.4874259]

>>4874234
I are pigs uterus in Saigon. Can I have my purple wings now please?

Also what the fuck does this mean in regards to Americas love of Buffalo Wings?

[Anonymous No.4874260]

>>4874156
oh god that looks disgusting

[Anonymous No.4874266]

>>4874259
It's called an inferiority complex. Yuropoors are so dissatisfied with their crumbling sharia-law continent, they have to project their failure as a people onto America

[Anonymous No.4874280]

>>4874266
How does this relate to buffalo wings again?
The moon?
Europe?
Sharia law?
Wut...?

[Anonymous No.4874287]

>>4874171

this >>4874237

terrorist pls go

[Anonymous No.4874288]

>>4874280
I think his point is that buffalo wings are delicious and fuck you.

just a guess

[Anonymous No.4874289]

>>4874280
illuminati

[Anonymous No.4874294]

>>4874288
>>4874289

[Anonymous No.4874299]

Primary influence on American culture was English, where we picked up English love of sweets. Slave trade insured we had molasses from the Caribbean. Natural history gave us Maple syrup in the north.
Without much in the way of seasonings we ended up sweetening our beans because onions and fatback were the only other things we had to season them with.

Then the next major cultural influence on American culture was German immigrants. Germans have always loved sweet and savory combinations. Stuff like pork roasted with apples. We had plenty of apples, so those kind of combinations made it into American cooking.

With the advent of mass produced candy sweets went from being a treat to an everyday thing. Then Prohibition came, and the soda shop, featuring always popular sweet drinks and ice cream replaced the bar/pub, reinforcing the idea of sweets as everyday things.

By the time the 80's came along America's sweet tooth was well established. But cheap corn syrup suddenly allowed everything to be sweet. So pretty much everything became sweet.

[Anonymous No.4874305]

>>4874299
You're forgetting the part where we gradually began to re-separate and reapproach those foods resulting in thousands of English or German restaurants that don't serve a single sweet item outside of some optional and rarely ordered dessert item. I've been to thousands of dinners and unless it's complimentary no one orders dessert unless it's an occasional tiramisu that's one portion shared by 8 people.

Seriously, outside of beverages the idea that the average American is obsessed with sweets is overblown.

[Anonymous No.4874316]

>>4874305
Pretty much. I can't remember the last time I had a dessert that wasn't brought out courtesy of the chef.

[Anonymous No.4874321]

20% cooler

[Anonymous No.4874327]

>>4874221
>It's literally just an American thing.

um...pate and fruit preserve or chutney?

[Anonymous No.4874382]

>>4874171
As a European I'd eat the hell out of pancakes + sausages.

Never had an apple and bacon pancake? Same kind of deal.

[Anonymous No.4874395]

>>4874234
Are they some kind of oral sex obsessed boy scouts or something?

>purple wings

Is this such a common occurrence that they need a badge for this?

[Anonymous No.4874398]

Why can't you shitbirds figure out that only about 5% of the world's population knows how to cook good food?

[Anonymous No.4874409]

>>4874395
Hardcore bikers (those in actual gangs, not just weekend riders) are a strange bunch. They live in a different world

[Anonymous No.4874413]

now that this thread is up and rinning, why is it that americans get their panties in a bunch when someone says something bad about their food ?

[Anonymous No.4874448]

>>4874413
Because it's always the same inane argument.

"Why do you americans enjoy X"
"Why are americans so X"

I find it quite funny because while you all worry about how we like our food and what we eat, we couldn't give two shits what is going on across the pond.

1/10 for making me respond.

[Anonymous No.4874459]

>>4874305
>Seriously, outside of beverages the idea that the average American is obsessed with sweets is overblown.
Disagree. It might not be so overt as OP's pic, but many things are sweetened in America that would not be sweetened in other places. Much of our bread is sweetened. Our salad dressings are sweetened. BBQ sauce is loaded with sugar, as are other sauces we put on our meat. Products that would rarely be sweetened in other countries (pasta sauces, canned soups, savory snack foods) line our supermarket shelves here in sweetened form.

Then when it comes to actual desserts Americans have an uneasy relationship. We tend to feel guilt about them, yet still overindulge.

[Anonymous No.4874468]

>>4874180

They are, they just don't realize it. Every culture combines sweet and savory.

[Anonymous No.4874495]

>>4874459
>Much of our bread is sweetened
not american
>>4874459
>Our salad dressings are sweetened
not american
>>4874459
>BBQ sauce is loaded with sugar
regionally and not consumed frequently
>>4874459
>as are other sauces we put on our meat
oh?

>>4874459
>Products that would rarely be sweetened in other countries (pasta sauces, canned soups, savory snack foods) line our supermarket shelves here in sweetened form.

right, salt=sugar

good job.

[Anonymous No.4874502]

>>4874495
pasta sauce actually does have a lot of sugar, but that's hardly an American thing.

[Anonymous No.4874503]

>>4874495
b-but american mass produced bread does contain unusually large amounts of sugar, as do your dressings. Well probably HFCS rather than actual sugar, but still.

>>4874502
Surely the only sugar in pasta sauce is that from vegetables?

[Anonymous No.4874511]

>>4874503
The only mass produced breads that are overly sweetened are white bread. And probably cheap honey wheat.
As for dressings, I have no clue. The only time I eat salad dressing is thousand island on my reuben.

[Anonymous No.4874521]

>Indian food
>Thai food
>Chinese food
>Caribbean food

It's not an American thing at all.

[Anonymous No.4874525]

>>4874413
>why is it that americans get their panties in a bunch when someone says something bad about their food ?
Because for generations American food has been something of a laughingstock in the world. Ketchup on everything, cheese on everything, drinking milk with meals, casseroles made with cream of mushroom soup, ranch dressing, fast food, cakes made from boxed mixes, breakfast cereal...

In spite of the fact that some of the best restaurants in the world are in America many Americans are still defensive because they still eat the kind of shit we've been traditionally made fun of for eating (and like it)..

[Anonymous No.4874533]

>>4874502
>pasta sauce actually does have a lot of sugar, but that's hardly an American thing.
You'll find it in Sicily, too, but there the sweet is usually set off against vinegar. Elsewhere not so much.

[Anonymous No.4874539]

>tfw putting honey in your chili for the first time

[Anonymous No.4874540]

>>4874511
The white bread buns served at restaurants and bought for family picnics are loaded with sugar.

[Anonymous No.4874541]

>>4874413
Because the people who say it don't know shit about America. If I said European food sucked without having ever been to Europe, or if I had only ever been to a couple shit hole restaurants in your continent, would you not think I was a retard?

[Anonymous No.4874544]

>>4874540
Yeah. Thanks for agreeing with my post.

[Anonymous No.4874545]

>>4874544
well, that's the only kind of bread most americans eat.

[Anonymous No.4874548]

>>4874495
>Nearly all of the sandwich bread sold in supermarkets is sweetened.
>Look at the labels in the salad dressing aisle (yes, non-Americans, we have those in our supermarkets). Most contain sugar and/of HFCS
>Sugary sauces commonly put on meat in America include:BBQ sauce, ketchup, honey mustard, steak sauce, salad dressings in various forms, sweet relish

[Anonymous No.4874568]

>>4874541
>Because the people who say it don't know shit about America.
Maybe. Or maybe they like making sport of the excessive chest thumping American indignity so easily churned up in a certain stripe of American by even the slightest mockery of our foibles. (Ketchup and ranch dressing are pretty fucking funny table condiments). Why are we so touchy about it? Because in America having highfalutin taste is looked down upon. That includes liking haute cuisine. Americans like "regular" food, which has come to mean laughable food to many Europeans. This stokes up defensiveness in insecure Americans.

[Anonymous No.4874572]

>>4874545
I don't know one person who prefers white bread.

[Anonymous No.4874600]

>>4874568

but muh moon landing!

[Anonymous No.4874604]

Americans are the only people that eat food according to this stupid fucking board.

[Anonymous No.4874626]

>>4874604
You sound a bit upset.

[Anonymous No.4874630]

>>4874604
>>4874626
Not him, but I agree. If I could, I'd make "Americans" and "Europeans" auto-ban words for /ck/. Along with every derogatory version that's used, like "Amerilards" and "Europoors."

It wouldn't fix a damn thing in /ck/, I know, but it would give me satisfaction.

[Anonymous No.4874718]

>>4874180
thats the only exception in the entire history of the universe.

[Anonymous No.4874730]

Apricot Chicken is disgusting, Apple Sauce is shit with pork, and dates in stews and stuffing also suck.

Pretty much every sweet ingredient matched with a savory is horrible, except fruit in asian food like curries.

[Anonymous No.4874782]

im not murrican and i wouldnt eat your pic, OP. but sugar and salt is a mix made in heaven

[Anonymous No.4874994]

>>4874730
pffft...applesauce and pork rocks,so does apricots and cicken...fruits and meats are awsome

[Anonymous No.4875007]

i know a place that makes fresh fried hot doughnut breakfast sandwiches wth egg cheese and sausage or bacon. soo good, though i reserve it for special hungover occasions

[Anonymous No.4875027]

>>4874730
I love apricot chicken.
Nope to the other ones though.
I like salty toffee, does that count.

[Anonymous No.4875035]

>>4875027
yes, and salted caramel

[Anonymous No.4875045]

Texan here, I cant really stand too many sweet and savory mixtures. I don't understand the whole maple syrup with sausage thing, kind of grosses me out. Only sweet and savory combos I can tolerate are some sauces with meat, and pastries. I'd be willing to try sweet and savory though, a year ago went to the Line & Lariat in Houston and had Lobster with carrot and apple shreds with a fruity sauce and it wasnt too bad. Anyone have any good sweet and savory suggestions?

[Anonymous No.4875049]

>Lobster with carrot and apple shreds with a fruity sauce
all these things are sweet

[Anonymous No.4875054]

>>4875049
read the first part of the sentence

[Anonymous No.4875065]

>>4875054
i did. you either gave it as an example of a sweet and savory combo you did like, or an entirely irrelevant statement that had nothing to do with anything.

[Anonymous No.4875069]

>>4875054
>read first part of sentence

>texan here

ohhhh gotcha

[Anonymous No.4875077]

>>4874299
>Germans have always loved sweet and savory combinations. Stuff like pork roasted with apples.

Pork is traditionally served with apple in England too.

[Anonymous No.4875178]

>>4874382
>apple and bacon pancake

Wait...what?

Did...did Europe just take the first step to redeem its cuisine?

[Anonymous No.4875195]

>Eat at diner every time I visit my friend
>Always pass up American breakfasts in favour of toast and coffee
>Finally try pancakes, syrup and bacon
>Ode to joy plays as I take the first bite of syrupy bacon

It didn't put me off thick, British style back bacon but it certainly explains why what seems to be the prevailing style (thin and sweet) is so popular over there.

[Anonymous No.4875199]

>>4875045
If your in Houston go to Goode Company bbq and get the apple baked beans. I was very hesitant but it was the best bbq side dish I've ever had. The sweetness of the apples really compliments the spicy savoriness of the baked beans.

[Anonymous No.4875203]

>>4874156

An orgy for the senses at every bite.

Fucking endocrine addicts.

[Anonymous No.4875212]

>>4874382

>apple and bacon pancake

My body is ready.

[Anonymous No.4875221]

>>4874548
>got told
>buttmad
>reiterates the things he was told on thinking repetition will fix it.

[Anonymous No.4875227]

>>4874156
>why are American's so obsessed with mixing sweet with savoury?

I'm not.

[Smith the CIA Agent No.4875241]

Who ordered the sweet and sour pork?

[Anonymous No.4875257]

>>4875241
better than sweet OR sour pork...

>eats, sits it out

-What is this?
-Sour Pork. It's good huh?

[Anonymous No.4875999]

>>4874299
>germans discussing food near me

[Anonymous No.4876005]

>>4874234
>oral-anal
The term is analingus you FUCKING pleb

[Anonymous No.4876014]

Dude mcgriddles are fucking awesome

[Anonymous No.4876015]

I recently bought some Reese's cups. I was quite thrown how salty they were.

[Anonymous No.4876020]

>>4874234
>Actually thinking this is a thing.

[Anonymous No.4876023]

>>4874413

OP didn't even ask anything bad about American food. He just asked how a perceived cultural difference in taste combination came to be.

[Anonymous No.4876101]

>>4874186
>ought to be shot

I hear this a lot recently. Like only within the last few years.

Before then it was never an issue, but now somehow it's sacrilege?

I'm pretty sure it's mostly psychological, somehow ideas about it changed and people somehow forgot it was perfectly normal and fine.

[Anonymous No.4876108]

>>4876014

I actually had a mcgriddle the other day to be adventurous and it was fucking delicious.

[Anonymous No.4876114]

>>4874156
nigga have you ever BEEN to mexico.

[Anonymous No.4876137]

>>4874382
I've had apple pancakes+bacon but not an apple bacon pancake. I think I'd rather have the bacon separate.

[Anonymous No.4876149]

>>4876137
had ginger bacon orange pancakes and i blew up

[Anonymous No.4876167]

>>4876149
Oh my god that sounds amazing.

[Anonymous No.4876187]

>>4876101
>people somehow forgot it was perfectly normal and fine
>pineapple on pizza
It has never been normal nor fine, in places where pizza has been defined by Italians, Italian immigrants or their children. But this sort of thing happens when the popularity of a dish goes beyond the people who created it. Like ceviche, curry and sushi, pizza has gone around the world, transforming into many things traditionalists would find disgusting. Yet those not based in tradition may find those forms wonderful.

It's an easy argument, but at some point it becomes apples and oranges, because a chain pizza with ham, bacon and pineapple bears little resemblance to a Neapolitan pizza. They're really different things.

[Anonymous No.4876218]

>>4876114

Last I checked Mexico was in America.

[Anonymous No.4876306]

Off the top of my head the euros eat currants and other preserves with game meat, chinese almost always have a sweet note in the savory dishes, indians eat chutneys with meats, germans do a lot with pork and apples, brits beans are sweet, ect. ect.
It is completely normal to mix sweet and savory, almost every cuisine will have examples.

[Anonymous No.4876326]

>>4876218
You mean Mexico is in North America. America is a country.

[Anonymous No.4876330]

>>4876326

You're thinking of the United States.

[Anonymous No.4876345]

>>4876330
No, I'm thinking of America.

[Anonymous No.4876353]

>>4876330
Stop playing games. Plenty of US citizens have no idea they're not the only people who call themselves Americans. Why tease the ignorant?

[Anonymous No.4876367]

>>4876353
THIS

[Anonymous No.4876406]

>>4876353
that's because latin american education is retarded.

You are not American, sorry. North America and South America are two separate continents. Why don't you apply that logic to Eurafricasia? We are not United Statians unless you guys are United Mexican Statians or Argentine Republicans or Republicans of Colombia and whatever else.

[Anonymous No.4876839]

>>4874156
I don't understand that my self anon. I have never cared for that. None of my friends do it, but my evil sister does.

[Anonymous No.4876857]

>>4874234
thanks cunt you just ruined Sons of Anarchy for me

[Anonymous No.4876934]

>>4874156

It doesn't work because the sweet gets overdone. Sweet and savory is an amazing combination, as long as you don't overstate the sweet.

Also, it's not strictly an American thing. Most of my family's "sweet and savory" recipes actually come from great-grandparents fresh off the boat and their parents. So if anything, blame Italy and Germany.

[Anonymous No.4876944]

>>4876934
shhhh all the things americans do only comes from europe if its something they approve of

[Anonymous No.4877984]

>>4874234
Nnnnoooooooooooooppppppeeeeee.jpg

[Anonymous No.4878006]

>>4874234
wtf are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.4878009]

>>4874221
but so many different countries use fruits and shit as glazes for meats...

did americans really invent eating a bite of fruit and meat at the same time?

[Anonymous No.4878012]

>>4878006

stealth bumping threads, 9 hours between the 3rd to last and penultimate posts, also known as FORUM SLIDING

[Anonymous No.4878044]

>why do Americans blah blah bah hurr durr

Can you contain all this dumb shit to one thread?

[Anonymous No.4878195]

>>4878012
>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.4878230]

>>4878044
Why contain it?

[Anonymous No.4878448]

>>4876306
>brits beans are sweet
no
your beans come canned in syrup for fucks sake

[Anonymous No.4878484]

>>4878012
You need more fish in your diet, paranoia is a sign of synapsis degradation in the brain.
So top up your your omega 3's before the Vegan Jew comes and steals your ability to create coherent thought away.

[Anonymous No.4878499]

because half of Americans are profoundly fat bastards looking for the next disgusting thing, the other half are addicts of some kind who use sugar to mask their detox rounds.

[Anonymous No.4878704]

>>4878499
detox their what?

[Anonymous No.4878726]

>>4876187
original italian pizza is worthless

[Anonymous No.4879882]

>>4878726
We hung Mussolini for saying that!

[Anonymous No.4879900]

>all americans have the preference regarding taste
das raycis

[Anonymous No.4882282]

>>4879882
No he was hung for being a fat putenesca gobbling faggot

[Anonymous No.4883380]

Bump

[Anonymous No.4883397]

>>4876187
You sure are defensive about your junk food m8

[Anonymous No.4883411]

>>4882282
but he made the trans run on time..

[Anonymous No.4883426]

>>4883411
Hitler's favorite dish was Pasta with a marinara sauce with no meat, as Hitler was a somewhat of a vegetarian.
Perhaps Mussolini's wife first made this for him when he was visiting Rome in 1938.

[Anonymous No.4883527]

>>4874186
Just imagine pineapple as a lot sweeter of an acid flavor, to complement the tomato, and it begins to make a lot more sense

[Anonymous No.4883550]

>>4883426
Hitlers pasta always fucked up as he put it in the oven- every time!

[Anonymous No.4884951]

>>4883550
What was Mao's favorite meal?

[Anonymous No.4884953]

>>4884951
dongpo pork, IIRC

[Anonymous No.4884956]

>>4884951
Maotain Dew

[Anonymous No.4884966]

>>4884953
thanks
>>4884956
LOL